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Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:53 pm

You can easily get slots at Mumbai airport but only for odd hours from 1am to 4.45 am.

Amsterdam airport has reached the maximum flights allowed per law and therefore in that sense it is slot restricted. Unless KLM gives Jet on of its existing slots, Jet hypothetically won’t be able to start Madras or Hyderabad to AMS
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:20 pm

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You can easily get slots at Mumbai airport but only for odd hours from 1am to 4.45 am.

No. BOM is operating way beyond capacity and is very very selective in handing out slots. If you look at new route launches in the last 2 years, they have all been for new airlines/new routes
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:34 pm

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No. BOM is operating way beyond capacity and is very very selective in handing out slots. If you look at new route launches in the last 2 years, they have all been for new airlines/new routes


Then how did G8 and 6E launch those MLE flights around mid-afternoon ? Maldivian did operate to BOM, so not a new route as such.
6E also had launched day time flights to DOH from BOM.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:06 pm

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No. BOM is operating way beyond capacity and is very very selective in handing out slots. If you look at new route launches in the last 2 years, they have all been for new airlines/new routes


Then how did G8 and 6E launch those MLE flights around mid-afternoon ? Maldivian did operate to BOM, so not a new route as such.
6E also had launched day time flights to DOH from BOM.

For every new flight, the airlines reduced frequency somewhere else
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:17 pm

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edealinfo wrote:
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Is KL ever going to start BLR-AMS, or are they content with leaving this route to 9W?


KLM is more likely to start Hyderabad per this 14-month old article:
https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 344_1.html


There is also the factor of the connecting AMS-YYZ flight. 9W's flights from DEL, BOM and BLR to AMS all arrive within a short interval, and if 9W launches HYD-AMS (or even MAA-AMS) four A330s/777s must fly all at once to AMS, which is a bit much. Better for KL to launch HYD rather than 9W (especially given the 9W crisis). KLM can also try BLR/MAA.

On an unrelated note, congratulations to BLR and MAA for getting direct flights to NRT, that too on Japanese airlines. J and F passengers are in for a treat, especially on JAL.


Why is 4 flights a bit much. Because 9W has given up on EU-US flights, they should add HYD-AMS. This relationship has so far been an example of how a fair deal can be had between airlines (hello EY). Plus that market is very indian origin and VFR filled, so an Indian carrier makes sense. Plus 9W is better in J and Y.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:33 pm

edealinfo wrote:
You can easily get slots at Mumbai airport but only for odd hours from 1am to 4.45 am.

Amsterdam airport has reached the maximum flights allowed per law and therefore in that sense it is slot restricted. Unless KLM gives Jet on of its existing slots, Jet hypothetically won’t be able to start Madras or Hyderabad to AMS

Yeild is a function of customer preference. I cannot imagine 1am to 4:45am takeoffs could be profitable unless:
1. Costs are low +ULCC)
2. Red-eye to the East (e.g. China, Thailand)

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Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:47 pm

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VTCIE wrote:
edealinfo wrote:

KLM is more likely to start Hyderabad per this 14-month old article:
https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 344_1.html


There is also the factor of the connecting AMS-YYZ flight. 9W's flights from DEL, BOM and BLR to AMS all arrive within a short interval, and if 9W launches HYD-AMS (or even MAA-AMS) four A330s/777s must fly all at once to AMS, which is a bit much. Better for KL to launch HYD rather than 9W (especially given the 9W crisis). KLM can also try BLR/MAA.

On an unrelated note, congratulations to BLR and MAA for getting direct flights to NRT, that too on Japanese airlines. J and F passengers are in for a treat, especially on JAL.


Why is 4 flights a bit much. Because 9W has given up on EU-US flights, they should add HYD-AMS. This relationship has so far been an example of how a fair deal can be had between airlines (hello EY). Plus that market is very indian origin and VFR filled, so an Indian carrier makes sense. Plus 9W is better in J and Y.

Yes. 9W can launch HYD-AMS, MAA-AMS, CCU-AMS and AMD-AMS in a world where it has taken delivery of its 787-9s (ten exclusively for flying to AMS and another two to continue to YYZ). Oh, and also where 9W has a market share of at least 17% and a profit of ₹700 crore per quarter.

I doubt you know about any of the draconian cost-cutting measures 9W has taken in Y, J and F alike. And you talk about EY's cost-cutting measures.

KL is well-poised to launch HYD and/or BLR the way NH is launching MAA. Foreign airlines must step up when Indian ones can't.
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:58 pm

AMS has no slots and Jet has neither the planes nor the staff nor the money so jhumri telaya to AMS is not happening any time soon
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:02 pm

So about the well-run airline financials.

Yeid up by 3.7%
PLF down by 3.2%
It's almost a wash

RASK down by 3.0%
CASK up by 14.5%
That's a 17.5% deeper hole than the same quarter last year.

Ancillary revenue didn't grow at all in both on pax and cargo. Bad news for a ULCC.

Indigo says growth will be 30%, mostly international
SpiceJet says growth will be moderate for the entire sector

Go Air is the OTP leader
SpiceJet is RASK leader

AerCap says competition in India is irrational.
Boeing says airlines are selling tickets 10%-15% below cost. Not sustainable.
SpiceJet says Indigo should take the lead and increase fares. 10% on trunk routes.
Indigo says we are doing social service by offering cheapest fares.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:11 pm

Indigo made a profit in a tough environment!
https://www.bing.com/amp/s/finance.yaho ... 59498.html

75% decline isn't good, but I'm excited about the international expansion. Delaying a decision on widebodies is just wise.

The A321NEO should help get costs in control.
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:37 pm

In a quarter where fuel prices were 60% higher, an airline's CASK was 15% higher. Very insightful indeed.
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:40 pm

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In a quarter where fuel prices where 60% higher, an airline's CASK was 15% higher. Very insightful indeed.

Are you sure it's not ex fuel?
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:43 pm

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Are you sure it's not ex fuel?

I am
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:02 pm

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Are you sure it's not ex fuel?

I am

That's impressive then.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:44 pm

Can someone with inside knowledge of BOM comment on whether slots can be had for the asking between 1 and 4.45 am, or do they have to meet strict criteria? Even though those slots are largely undesirable for domestic flights, they could be used for flights to Europe, which anyway depart in the dead of the night.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:47 pm

Turkish and indigo agreed to code share on each other’s flights. does anyone know which flights specifically for which Turkish codes were place on Infigi flights. If most of the codes were placed on Indigo’s flights from New Delhi, then most likely Indigo would start del to ist
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:03 pm

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Why is 4 flights a bit much. Because 9W has given up on EU-US flights, they should add HYD-AMS. This relationship has so far been an example of how a fair deal can be had between airlines (hello EY). Plus that market is very indian origin and VFR filled, so an Indian carrier makes sense. Plus 9W is better in J and Y.


I doubt you know about any of the draconian cost-cutting measures 9W has taken in Y, J and F alike. And you talk about EY's cost-cutting measures.
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Can you explain the "draconian " cost cutting measures in F / J? In case of Y, I agree there has been massive cost cutting (domestic only not int'l).
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:22 pm

Draconian is a general Indian expression often to overstate a point so it gets noticed. Have you noticed that with every minor airline incident, it is often expressed as the passengers having a “miraculous escape”?
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:33 am

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CaliguyNYC wrote:
VTCIE wrote:

There is also the factor of the connecting AMS-YYZ flight. 9W's flights from DEL, BOM and BLR to AMS all arrive within a short interval, and if 9W launches HYD-AMS (or even MAA-AMS) four A330s/777s must fly all at once to AMS, which is a bit much. Better for KL to launch HYD rather than 9W (especially given the 9W crisis). KLM can also try BLR/MAA.

On an unrelated note, congratulations to BLR and MAA for getting direct flights to NRT, that too on Japanese airlines. J and F passengers are in for a treat, especially on JAL.


Why is 4 flights a bit much. Because 9W has given up on EU-US flights, they should add HYD-AMS. This relationship has so far been an example of how a fair deal can be had between airlines (hello EY). Plus that market is very indian origin and VFR filled, so an Indian carrier makes sense. Plus 9W is better in J and Y.

Yes. 9W can launch HYD-AMS, MAA-AMS, CCU-AMS and AMD-AMS in a world where it has taken delivery of its 787-9s (ten exclusively for flying to AMS and another two to continue to YYZ). Oh, and also where 9W has a market share of at least 17% and a profit of ₹700 crore per quarter.

I doubt you know about any of the draconian cost-cutting measures 9W has taken in Y, J and F alike. And you talk about EY's cost-cutting measures.

KL is well-poised to launch HYD and/or BLR the way NH is launching MAA. Foreign airlines must step up when Indian ones can't.


KL/DL/AF/VS are all coordinating with 9W on launching new flights. 9W isn’t launching anything (nor has launched anything to AMS, CDG, LHR and MAN recently) without a deal with the home airline on cheap onward connections. They basically function like a virtual metal neutral JV without having a JV. MAA-AMS won’t launch until CDG-MAA goes daily (again AF and KL coordinate and do not work to undercut each other). HYD-AMS would be next on the list assuming AF/KL think there is enough premium traffic to push 9W to launch (again through a de facto subsidy of providing cheap EU-US seats).
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:19 am

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Can someone with inside knowledge of BOM comment on whether slots can be had for the asking between 1 and 4.45 am, or do they have to meet strict criteria? Even though those slots are largely undesirable for domestic flights, they could be used for flights to Europe, which anyway depart in the dead of the night.

Trust me if slots were freely available airlines would have taken them long back
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:39 am

unrave wrote:
edealinfo wrote:
Can someone with inside knowledge of BOM comment on whether slots can be had for the asking between 1 and 4.45 am, or do they have to meet strict criteria? Even though those slots are largely undesirable for domestic flights, they could be used for flights to Europe, which anyway depart in the dead of the night.

Trust me if slots were freely available airlines would have taken them long back


And where would they fly to at that time of the night?
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:45 am

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And where would they fly to at that time of the night?

Anywhere they can? DEL has domestic departures even at 2.30
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:50 am

edealinfo wrote:
Draconian is a general Indian expression often to overstate a point so it gets noticed. Have you noticed that with every minor airline incident, it is often expressed as the passengers having a “miraculous escape”?


Examples of "miraculous escape" in Indian newspapers:

https://www.firstpost.com/india/goair-e ... 77692.html

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/ ... 70347.html

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 525494.cms

https://www.financialexpress.com/india- ... dy/932334/

http://www.uniindia.com/delhi-bound-fli ... 64444.html
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:52 am

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And where would they fly to at that time of the night?

Anywhere they can? DEL has domestic departures even at 2.30


Aren't those Jet Airways and Air India positioning flights to other domestic destinations for travel to onward international destinations?
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:59 am

binayak wrote:
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CaliguyNYC wrote:

Why is 4 flights a bit much. Because 9W has given up on EU-US flights, they should add HYD-AMS. This relationship has so far been an example of how a fair deal can be had between airlines (hello EY). Plus that market is very indian origin and VFR filled, so an Indian carrier makes sense. Plus 9W is better in J and Y.


I doubt you know about any of the draconian cost-cutting measures 9W has taken in Y, J and F alike. And you talk about EY's cost-cutting measures.
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Can you explain the "draconian " cost cutting measures in F / J? In case of Y, I agree there has been massive cost cutting (domestic only not int'l).

As you please. Domestic flights only. See all the links here. https://livefromalounge.boardingarea.co ... postponed/
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:59 am

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Aren't those Jet Airways and Air India positioning flights to other domestic destinations for travel to onward international destinations?

Nope. There are LCC departures at the dead of the night. And 9W doesn't have any international connector flights.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:05 am

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binayak wrote:
VTCIE wrote:

I doubt you know about any of the draconian cost-cutting measures 9W has taken in Y, J and F alike. And you talk about EY's cost-cutting measures.
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Can you explain the "draconian " cost cutting measures in F / J? In case of Y, I agree there has been massive cost cutting (domestic only not int'l).

As you please. Domestic flights only. See all the links here. https://livefromalounge.boardingarea.co ... postponed/
Until December, BOM-SIN was operated by both A330s and 737s. Now it's only 737s. A PaxEx review. https://livefromalounge.boardingarea.co ... ight-9w12/


That's not the answer to my question bro! I asked what draconian cost cutting has been done in F/J .
Have read both the blogs.
About the withdrawal of lounge access for gold /platinums traveling in economy, the same people can access lounges with the help of jet airways co branded credit cards whose renewal charges are waived off for them because of their tier. That was the only cost cutting extended to int'l. Rest is domestic only.
BOM SIN was down gauged because their a330s were undergoing heavy maintenance at a Jordan based MRO and 1 a330 was and still is grounded at MAA.
I won't compare jet's J with AF /KL because I haven't tried the latter's business product. But in economy since I've tried all the 3 , my personal experience says they were more or less alike. (That's my experience only. )
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:24 am

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Are slot constraints the only issue preventing BOM from growing fast?
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:31 am

Yes, it has been the case for a few years now. Expect to see growth once Navi Mumbai airport opens
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:40 am

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Yes, it has been the case for a few years now. Expect to see growth once Navi Mumbai airport opens


So the richest city in India will be aviation dead for the next 3 years. How disappointing.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:50 am

It is official:
IndiGo announces the launch of daily DEL-IST flights wef 20MAR19
6E11 DEL1340 - 1810IST
6E12 IST1945 - 0415DEL
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:06 am

So no Bombay? COME ON MAN
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:09 am

There was no way IndiGo was launching BOM before DEL. They have their best feed at DEL, and if you go by this logic, BLR will be next
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:35 am

For domestic airlines to expand overseas, Indian middle class must spread its wings

A solid increase in outbound traffic, burgeoning middle class, growing income and millennial population eager to travel – the recipe is set for increase in travel from India.
However, the headwinds for growth in Gulf, coupled with increased competition has made airlines look for options beyond the traditional markets.


https://www.cnbctv18.com/aviation/for-d ... 076141.htm
 
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Indigo's launch fares are INR 24k for DEL-IST. Pretty good considering normal fares hover around 40k.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:40 am

BLR should be next to get IST connection by 6E. They need more int'l connectivity. That's subject to their a/c performance for such a long route.
BOM being the more premium market, may not work well for them . Like the way BKK and SIN had turned out for them ex-BOM.
 
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BLR should be next to get IST connection by 6E. They need more int'l connectivity. That's subject to their a/c performance for such a long route.
BOM being the more premium market, may not work well for them . Like the way BKK and SIN had turned out for them ex-BOM.


BKK and SIN are premium destinations . However BOM-IST is no way a premium route like them . Look at the product in J in the a/c deployed in BOM flight .TK has extensive contracts with tour operators like Veena World (which are ex BOM) and tourists fill up most of their flights.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:47 am

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unrave wrote:
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Are slot constraints the only issue preventing BOM from growing fast?


Yes there are no slots except a few in the dead of the night.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:48 am

Good, TK must be having buyers remorse by now if not very soon. Should have started BLR-IST.
 
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At what hour blocks are slots ffreely available at Bombay?
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:58 pm

Does Indigo’s del to ist flight conveniently connect to TK’s European and North American bound flights?
Does anyone have the list of TK’s code shares on flights operated by indigo?
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:33 pm

^^ @edealinfo
It doesn't connect conveniently on the west bound leg. But it's head to head with IST-DEL timings which is perplexing.
No idea on European bank.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:43 pm

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There was no way IndiGo was launching BOM before DEL. They have their best feed at DEL, and if you go by this logic, BLR will be next

avier wrote:
BLR should be next to get IST connection by 6E. They need more int'l connectivity. That's subject to their a/c performance for such a long route.
BOM being the more premium market, may not work well for them . Like the way BKK and SIN had turned out for them ex-BOM.

Rather unrelated, but when 6E entered Bhopal, it launched BHO-BLR instead of DEL and BOM. So BLR is the logical choice for the second city as BOM is too slot-constrained.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:44 pm

Codeshare agreement doesn't guarantee codeshare on every flight. If 6E starts trashing TK yields, they may not allow 6E to place codes on TK's European network. There is always, oops regulators didn't approve excuse.

Prior to Chinese carriers, TK used offer cheapest US-DEL/BOM ticket prices. Not sure if they can go any lower with the 6E partnership.

6E DEL-IST may be outside of codeshare agreement. I see IST as new consultant/CEO making his mark.
 
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6E DEL-IST may be outside of codeshare agreement.

It really doesn't work that way. And what exactly has TK bought to develop BUYER'S remorse?
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Keeping YoY growth of some other sub 70m pax airports (based on 2017-18 YoY growth data) in mind, I am expecting DEL to overtake IST, FRA, and DFW this year for sure, and come within a hair's breadth of CAN, CDG, and AMS!

Who would've thought over a decade ago, that DEL would overtake DFW and FRA in pax numbers.

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Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:34 pm

VTCIE wrote:
Rather unrelated, but when 6E entered Bhopal, it launched BHO-BLR instead of DEL and BOM. So BLR is the logical choice for the second city as BOM is too slot-constrained.


They still have however gone ahead and launched BOM-BHO by dropping another route. And they launched the BOM flight much before BLR-BHO, which is yet to begin.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:15 pm

chinmay17shetye wrote:
Indigo's launch fares are INR 24k for DEL-IST. Pretty good considering normal fares hover around 40k.


Also, they are offering 30 kg baggage, which is great.

Flexi fare, which allows unlimited date changes is only 5% more expensive than regular fares
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:23 pm

chinmay17shetye wrote:
unrave wrote:
Yes, it has been the case for a few years now. Expect to see growth once Navi Mumbai airport opens


So the richest city in India will be aviation dead for the next 3 years. How disappointing.


The saddest part is that very few new domestic cities will be added from BOM. DEL & BOM are no brainers for wanting / needing connections to most medium to large cities in India. Only good news is that airlines can up gauge to bigger planes. So growth can happen. final upside is maybe fares go up a bit. India needs some profitable routes. If BOM becomes India's LGA or LHR, then so be it. BOM people can afford a bit higher fares. While New Bombay will help, I can't imagine anyone from the western suburbs ever going to the new airport. What BOM really needs is clearing of the slums to create a parallel runway.
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