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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:46 pm

Reports today state that when Arctic splits into two companies, both will be "based" in Pittsburgh. Don't know if "based" is the same thing as "headquartered". If the later, then that's another plus for local O&D. Also, another two large companies will have Pittsburgh as their HQ.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:59 pm

Diversions to PIT
BA 217 a 747 LHR-IAD
UA 6263 a 175 DFW-IAD
UA 250 a 320 PDX-IAD
DL 2220 a 738 SEA-IAD
AA 433 a 321 SAN-PHL
WN 259 a 737 MDW-BWI
AA 234 a 321 SFO-JFK
UA 577 a 757 SFO-EWR
UA 2034 a 319 BNA-EWR
AA 3391 a 140 CLE-JFK
WN 2086 a 737 BNA-BWI
AS 4 a 738 SEA-DCA
AS 372 a 738 PDX-BWI
AF 54 a 380 CDG-IAD

Plenty more as well! Kinda lost track haha. So hopefully someone gets some good pictures!
Last edited by dabpit on Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:25 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:05 pm

Just saw the BA 744 over downtown and did a double take. Hopefully somebody has a chance to get some pictures.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:24 pm

Incoming Air France A380!
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:28 pm

AS922, SEA-BWI B739 also diverting to PIT.

UA752, DEN-BWI B739 is currently holding north of MGW.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:00 pm

dabpit wrote:
Diversions to PIT
BA 217 a 747 LHR-IAD
UA 6263 a 175 DFW-IAD
UA 250 a 320 PDX-IAD
DL 2220 a 738 SEA-IAD
AA 433 a 321 SAN-PHL
WN 259 a 737 MDW-BWI
AA 234 a 321 SFO-JFK
UA 577 a 757 SFO-EWR
UA 2034 a 319 BNA-EWR
AA 3391 a 140 CLE-JFK
WN 2086 a 737 BNA-BWI
AS 4 a 738 SEA-DCA
AS 372 a 738 PDX-BWI
AF 54 a 380 CDG-IAD

Plenty more as well! Kinda lost track haha. So hopefully someone gets some good pictures!

I picked the perfect week to head down to MCO. :banghead:
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:32 pm

JamesRenard wrote:
AS922, SEA-BWI B739 also diverting to PIT.

UA752, DEN-BWI B739 is currently holding north of MGW.

UA752 didn't divert in the end and continued to BWI.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:42 pm

dabpit wrote:
Diversions to PIT
BA 217 a 747 LHR-IAD
UA 6263 a 175 DFW-IAD
UA 250 a 320 PDX-IAD
DL 2220 a 738 SEA-IAD
AA 433 a 321 SAN-PHL
WN 259 a 737 MDW-BWI
AA 234 a 321 SFO-JFK
UA 577 a 757 SFO-EWR
UA 2034 a 319 BNA-EWR
AA 3391 a 140 CLE-JFK
WN 2086 a 737 BNA-BWI
AS 4 a 738 SEA-DCA
AS 372 a 738 PDX-BWI
AF 54 a 380 CDG-IAD

Plenty more as well! Kinda lost track haha. So hopefully someone gets some good pictures!


Thank goodness I work mornings this week
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:29 pm

There's a few pics of some of these diversions on PIT's FB page.

Also of note were two Fed Ex B763s that diverted.


ConcourseZ wrote:
Reports today state that when Arctic splits into two companies, both will be "based" in Pittsburgh. Don't know if "based" is the same thing as "headquartered". If the later, then that's another plus for local O&D. Also, another two large companies will have Pittsburgh as their HQ.

Arconic (not "Arctic") is currently headquartered in NYC. It will be interesting to see if that remains the case after this split, and if Arconic remains a F500 company. Could this potentially be a 10th F500 headquarters for the city? When the new Mylan moves back it would make them the 9th.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:36 pm

Been getting several pics of what went down today. All of Concourse B was pretty much maxed out and the even side of Concourse A nearly was too. Multiple aircraft parked on the Charlie pad by 28R. NK and UA even had flights parked at WN’s higher gates.

The BA B744 parked at C61 and the AF A388 parked between Atlantic and the 911th AW ramp.

Kudos to ops who had to deal with so much this afternoon.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:04 am

It looks like AA sent us a very rare MD-82
AA2480 from Pittsburgh to Dallas https://fr24.com/AAL2480/219b9257
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:13 pm

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There's a few pics of some of these diversions on PIT's FB page.


Wow, sure is nice to see that many planes sitting at PIT's gates. I sure wish that's how things would look everyday.

Came in on DE's flight on Monday. The flight looked completely full, but the airport? I think I saw one AA jet parked at a gate, it looked so empty from the outside. There were a fair amount of people in the foreign passport line too. The nice thing was, it only took 30 minutes to get off the 763, go through customs, grab my bag, and make it outside. That has to be a record. Having the bags offloaded so quickly was a nice bonus!
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:04 pm

Gsasala wrote:
It looks like AA sent us a very rare MD-82
AA2480 from Pittsburgh to Dallas https://fr24.com/AAL2480/219b9257


I noticed that as well, I believe N501AA was the last md80 delivered to AA. Maybe the last time we see one here?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:46 pm

Air Force One will now be coming to PIT on Tuesday.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019/08 ... scheduled/
 
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:35 pm

As suspected, the China charters are completely dead for 2019. Reason cited is the slowdown of the Chinese economy and tourism as a result of the US-China trade war. Also, a deal to allocate aircraft for the flights could not be secured.

https://www.post-gazette.com/business/d ... 1908090079
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:58 am

Runway28L wrote:
As suspected, the China charters are completely dead for 2019. Reason cited is the slowdown of the Chinese economy and tourism as a result of the US-China trade war. Also, a deal to allocate aircraft for the flights could not be secured.

https://www.post-gazette.com/business/d ... 1908090079

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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:12 pm

As of now BA's Tuesday service looks to be a B789.

Also of note is LH continues to go after DE's N. America network, recently announcing PHX and ANC with their EW subsidiary.
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:20 pm

flyPIT wrote:
As of now BA's Tuesday service looks to be a B789.

Also of note is LH continues to go after DE's N. America network, recently announcing PHX and ANC with their EW subsidiary.

Anywhere where I can see that? FR24 is currently showing a B788. LHR-PIT is also showing only 3 class service on BA.com for 8/13.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:56 pm

Runway28L wrote:
flyPIT wrote:
As of now BA's Tuesday service looks to be a B789.

Also of note is LH continues to go after DE's N. America network, recently announcing PHX and ANC with their EW subsidiary.

Anywhere where I can see that? FR24 is currently showing a B788. LHR-PIT is also showing only 3 class service on BA.com for 8/13.


I'm looking at the seating chart. Economy is rows 30-44, which matches BA's B789 configuration. As for the classes of service, when equipment swaps happen to larger aircraft it is common that only the original classes of service are sold. In other words, the First Class seats are used but sold at Business Class fares, and the soft product offered is the Business Class product. Looking at the seating chart some more, Club World is being offered for rows 1-13, which also matches BA's B789 configuration for First + Club World.

Some of those Club World passengers will be getting a nice seat upgrade.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:01 am

I just checked for myself... the seating chart indeed indicates a B789 throughout all classes.

Well this is certainly an interesting development. Looks like my prediction surprisingly came true.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:59 am

Meanwhile, AA and DL appear to have updated their November schedules.

- The 3pm PHL flight is upgraded from an E190 to an A319
- The 11:20am CLT flight has been upgraded from an A319 to an A320. The 4:20pm flight has been upgraded from a CRJ9 to an A319.
- PHX is locked in to go back up to 2x daily A319s (let's see if that will change though due to the MAX)
- The 6:20pm DFW flight has been upgraded from an A319 to a B738. The route is also staying 5x daily.
- The 4:15pm MIA flight has been upgraded from an E145 to an E175.
- JFK is back down to 1x daily (not surprising) and ORD is back down to 6x daily
- LGA and DCA retain mainline

- ATL is 7x daily B739s and 1x daily B738
- The DTW RON has been upgraded from an A320 to a B739
- LGA sees three CRJ9 flights downgraded to CRJ7s (these appear to be ex-G7 frames 9E is acquiring)
- MSP is up a mainline flight YoY (2x B712s, 2x CRJ9s)
- BOS is now 4x daily E175s and 1x daily E170

Also of note for UA... beginning in October, Republic will slowly start to take over IAD-PIT from Mesa.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:42 am

AA's PIT-JFK is still showing 4x daily at the end of Nov. Wasn't that when the increase was scheduled for?

As for BA operating the B789 next Tue, it's only a one off, there is absolutely nothing to read in to. Could be a simple matter of the usual B788 being taken out of service for a day or so for any number of reasons. It's already happened at CHS at least a couple of times.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:47 pm

Does anyone know why the BA flight today was cancelled?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:22 pm

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Does anyone know why the BA flight today was cancelled?

Diverted back to LHR due to an engine problem then subsequently cancelled.

https://twitter.com/airportwebcams/stat ... 49377?s=21
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:14 am

Runway28L wrote:
flyPIT wrote:
As of now BA's Tuesday service looks to be a B789.

Also of note is LH continues to go after DE's N. America network, recently announcing PHX and ANC with their EW subsidiary.

Anywhere where I can see that? FR24 is currently showing a B788. LHR-PIT is also showing only 3 class service on BA.com for 8/13.


Per FlightAware, BA171 LHR-PIT is listed as a B789:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW ... /EGLL/KPIT

I'd suspect that FR24 will update according once paperwork is filed, but at least there's partial confirmation of a 789 appearance at PIT on a non-diverted flight.
2019: DAL, MCI, PHX, LAS, DFW, SAT, ORD, SLC, SEA, DTW, PHL, MIA, LAX; B73G (WN x3), B738 (WN, AA, DL), A20N (NK), MD83 (AA), B788 (AA x2), CS1 (DL), B739 (DL), B712 (DL), B752 (AA), B763 (AA), B77W (AA), B789 (AA)
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:27 am

Runway28L wrote:
Meanwhile, AA and DL appear to have updated their November schedules.

- The 3pm PHL flight is upgraded from an E190 to an A319
- The 11:20am CLT flight has been upgraded from an A319 to an A320. The 4:20pm flight has been upgraded from a CRJ9 to an A319.
- PHX is locked in to go back up to 2x daily A319s (let's see if that will change though due to the MAX)
- The 6:20pm DFW flight has been upgraded from an A319 to a B738. The route is also staying 5x daily.
- The 4:15pm MIA flight has been upgraded from an E145 to an E175.
- JFK is back down to 1x daily (not surprising) and ORD is back down to 6x daily
- LGA and DCA retain mainline


PIT-DFW looks like it's going mostly B738 from what I was seeing on AA's website. Far cry from when an MD83 or two would regularly appear on the route.

- ATL is 7x daily B739s and 1x daily B738
- The DTW RON has been upgraded from an A320 to a B739
- LGA sees three CRJ9 flights downgraded to CRJ7s (these appear to be ex-G7 frames 9E is acquiring)
- MSP is up a mainline flight YoY (2x B712s, 2x CRJ9s)
- BOS is now 4x daily E175s and 1x daily E170

Also of note for UA... beginning in October, Republic will slowly start to take over IAD-PIT from Mesa.


I might have missed something, but weren't most of the DL PIT-ATL flights on the MD90/717? Also, do you think we could ever see DL slip an A220 on DTW-PIT or MSP-PIT in the future?
2019: DAL, MCI, PHX, LAS, DFW, SAT, ORD, SLC, SEA, DTW, PHL, MIA, LAX; B73G (WN x3), B738 (WN, AA, DL), A20N (NK), MD83 (AA), B788 (AA x2), CS1 (DL), B739 (DL), B712 (DL), B752 (AA), B763 (AA), B77W (AA), B789 (AA)
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:25 am

flyPIT wrote:
AA's PIT-JFK is still showing 4x daily at the end of Nov. Wasn't that when the increase was scheduled for?

I looked at the entire second week of November, which is when the schedule typically changes over and probably why I missed it. I see 4x daily just before Thanksgiving. Regardless, I don't think 4x daily is going to last very long.

ctrabs0114 wrote:
PIT-DFW looks like it's going mostly B738 from what I was seeing on AA's website. Far cry from when an MD83 or two would regularly appear on the route.

Purely from a spotter's perspective, I really wish AA would deploy an A321 on DFW-PIT full time. Speaking of which, looks like we had one fill in for an A319 this evening.

ctrabs0114 wrote:
I might have missed something, but weren't most of the DL PIT-ATL flights on the MD90/717? Also, do you think we could ever see DL slip an A220 on DTW-PIT or MSP-PIT in the future?

ATL-PIT right now is a mix of MD88s, MD90s, B738s, and B739s. 737s will be taking over the route entirely this Fall.

I've been told that if PIT were to receive the A220, it would likely be from DTW or MSP. PIT-LGA/JFK is likely to stay all-RJ for the foreseeable future.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:34 am

Runway28L wrote:
Meanwhile, AA and DL appear to have updated their November schedules.
- The 4:15pm MIA flight has been upgraded from an E145 to an E175.

Also of note for UA... beginning in October, Republic will slowly start to take over IAD-PIT from Mesa.

Does that make it 3 daily 175's or is it just the normal flipping of flights with 2 175's and 1 145?


3 daily E170's and 2 daily 175's for Dulles, Those are the only flights Republic will operate into Dulles in October. Mesa's CRJ-700's start coming off of contract at the end of this month and will be completely gone by the end of the year if United does not renew them. They also have the initial E175's starting to expire, though the rumor is United currently is keeping them at Mesa
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:42 pm

Speaking of regional partners, this from Routesonline this morning:

"Delta shakes up regional partnerships
Delta Air Lines is understood to be reducing its airline partners from five to three. It will end its Delta Connection regional partnerships with GoJet Airlines and Compass Airlines.

This leaves Endeavor Air, SkyWest Airlines and Republic Airways as the carriers operating as part of the programme.

Republic Airways will acquire an additional 30 Embraer 175 regional jets for operation with Delta, while SkyWest Airlines has ordered seven E175s.

The SkyWest Airlines order is instead of seven previously-announced Bombardier CRJ900s that were to be financed by Delta and scheduled for delivery in 2020.

Chip Childs, chief executive and president of SkyWest, said: “We are pleased to further strengthen our Delta partnership with the addition of these dual-class aircraft.

“We believe the placement of these aircraft in sestern hubs will help us continue to enhance our overall efficiency and product.”
Separately, SkyWest has cancelled its previously announced order for three new E175 aircraft scheduled for service with Alaska Airlines in 2021."
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:38 pm

January 2019 Intl LF

AC
PIT-YUL 42% YUL-PIT 43%
PIT-YYZ 49% YYZ-PIT 62%

G4
PIT-CUN 78% CUN-PIT 70%
PIT-PUJ 87% PUJ-PIT 83%

DL
PIT-CUN 82% CUN-PIT 79%

WW
PIT-KEF 55% KEF-PIT 90%

April 2019 Domestic LF

WN
PIT-ATL 80% ATL-PIT 72%
PIT-BWI 75% BWI-PIT 71%
PIT-MDW 77% MDW-PIT 67%
PIT-DAL 82% DAL-PIT 90%
PIT-DEN 92% DEN-PIT 85%
PIT-FLL 93% FLL-PIT 93%
PIT-RSW 78% RSW-PIT 92%
PIT-HOU 68% HOU-PIT 77%
PIT-LAS 89% LAS-PIT 82%
PIT-LAX 82% LAX-PIT 89%
PIT-BNA 80% BNA-PIT 84%
PIT-MSY 59% MSY-PIT 96%
PIT-MCO 92% MCO-PIT 91%
PIT-PHX 75% PHX-PIT 95%
PIT-STL 90% STL-PIT 88%
PIT-TPA 81% TPA-PIT 92%

AA
PIT-CLT 77% CLT-PIT 85.7%
PIT-ORD 67.5% ORD-PIT 65.5%
PIT-DFW 73.5% DFW-PIT 86%
PIT-MIA 88% MIA-PIT 91.5%
PIT-JFK 50% JFK-PIT 91% *only one flight in each direction ran that month*
PIT-LGA 59.5% LGA-PIT 66%
PIT-PHL 73.3% PHL-PIT 79.3%
PIT-PHX 87% PHX-PIT 89%
PIT-RDU 97% RDU-PIT 95%
PIT-DCA 78% DCA-PIT 75.5%

DL
PIT-ATL 86% ATL-PIT 87%
PIT-BOS 69.5% BOS-PIT 67%
PIT-DTW 72.5% DTW-PIT 57.5%
PIT-MSP 80.7% MSP-PIT 80.3%
PIT-JFK 64% JFK-PIT 63%
PIT-LGA 56% LGA-PIT 59%
PIT-SLC 85% SLC-PIT 82%

UA
PIT-ORD 82.75% ORD-PIT 79.5%
PIT-DEN 85% DEN-PIT 87%
PIT-IAH 74.3% IAH-PIT 82.7%
PIT-EWR 73.5% EWR-PIT 69.5%
PIT-SFO 79% SFO-PIT 80%
PIT-IAD 86% IAD-PIT 82%

G4
PIT-AUS 89% AUS-PIT 90%
PIT-CHS 81% CHS-PIT 79%
PIT-JAX 85% JAX-PIT 90%
PIT-MSY 78% MSY-PIT 79%
PIT-PGD 79% PDG-PIT 86%
PIT-SFB 91% SFB-PIT 90%
PIT-SRQ 84% SRQ-PIT 92%
PIT-SAV 76% SAV-PIT 80%
PIT-PIE 80% PIE-PIT 89%

NK
PIT-FLL 82% FLL-PIT 93%
PIT-RSW 66% RSW-PIT 80%
PIT-LAS 84% LAS-PIT 87%
PIT-LAX 88% LAX-PIT 90%
PIT-MYR 69% MYR-PIT 68%
PIT-MCO 93% MCO-PIT 91%
PIT-TPA 79% TPA-PIT 89%

B6
PIT-BOS 74% BOS-PIT 75%

AS
PIT-SEA 87% SEA-PIT 84%

F9
PIT-DEN 88% DEN-PIT 87%
PIT-PBI 84% PBI-PIT 87%

9X
PIT-AOO 21% AOO-PIT 23%
PIT-BFD 29% BFD-PIT 33%
PIT-DUJ 28% DUJ-PIT 27%
PIT-FKL 21% FKL-PIT 22%
PIT-HGR 46% HGR-PIT 46%
PIT-LNS 48% LNS-PIT 43%
PIT-MGW 22% MGW-PIT 24%

4B
PIT-JST 50% JST-PIT 58%
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:56 am

Allegiant has loaded twice weekly PIT-PBI service into their booking engine with service starting 11/14.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:29 am

Runway28L wrote:
flyPIT wrote:
AA's PIT-JFK is still showing 4x daily at the end of Nov. Wasn't that when the increase was scheduled for?

I looked at the entire second week of November, which is when the schedule typically changes over and probably why I missed it. I see 4x daily just before Thanksgiving. Regardless, I don't think 4x daily is going to last very long.

I still maintain this is more than just PIT-JFK. AA decided to put up a fight against DL and UA for market share in the NYC market and with LGA being slot constrained this is one way to do it. There are 7 million people within 5 miles of JFK so this is just a matter of routing passengers appropriately. I don't see why these flights can't get good use, and as of now neither does AA. Like I said a few months ago this is hardly the first time AA or its predecessor airlines offered this frequency to JFK.


Runway28L wrote:
January 2019 Intl LF
AC
PIT-YUL 42% YUL-PIT 43%

About 5 points behind YUL-BWI. Still hoping for 2x daily in the peak months like BWI.


April 2019 Domestic LF
AA
PIT-RDU 97% RDU-PIT 95%

By far AA's best performance at PIT as far as loads. No surprise they are keeping this one for now.


G4
PIT-AUS 89% AUS-PIT 90%

G4's second best performance at PIT as far as loads. Why the shortened season?


NK
PIT-LAX 88% LAX-PIT 90%
WN
PIT-LAX 82% LAX-PIT 89%

Not too bad from either carrier.


F9
PIT-DEN 88% DEN-PIT 87%
PIT-PBI 84% PBI-PIT 87%

Comparing to our neighbors to the northwest, PIT's DEN loads are a point higher and PBI 18% higher. Glad to see G4 re-enter PBI although I was hoping for them to add something out west.
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:23 am

Allegiant’s new PBI service will be year-round.

https://blueskypit.com/2019/08/13/alleg ... -from-pit/
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:16 pm

Runway28L wrote:
Allegiant’s new PBI service will be year-round.

https://blueskypit.com/2019/08/13/alleg ... -from-pit/


I was thinking to myself this morning that it's about time for a new route announcement for PIT. Maybe this isn't as sexy as some other cities could have been, but I will take it. 14 destinations for G4 isn't too bad. Glad to see that they're doing well and continuing to expand here.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:10 pm

Don't know if this was mentioned before, but today's Blue Sky article on diversions into PIT mention Emirates ...."In fact, Emirates recently designated PIT as one if its primary diversion airports in the U.S., and other airlines are making similar inquiries." Which leads to this question: do diverted aircraft pay a standard landing fee or is there some other arrangement?
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:38 pm

ConcourseZ wrote:
Don't know if this was mentioned before, but today's Blue Sky article on diversions into PIT mention Emirates ...."In fact, Emirates recently designated PIT as one if its primary diversion airports in the U.S., and other airlines are making similar inquiries." Which leads to this question: do diverted aircraft pay a standard landing fee or is there some other arrangement?


Most diversions I’ve seen this year are mostly gas and go due to storms on the east coast. There was one medical emergency diversion. The airlines probably have it in their contracts with the airport to cover diversions costs. Plus KPIT is one of the few airports out side of the NE that candle the A380 and VLAs and still be close enough to make the flight short enough so crews don’t time out.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:23 pm

I don't see why landing fees for diversions would be any different than a scheduled landing. With that in mind a signatory airline (AA, DL, etc) would pay the signatory landing fees. A non-signatory airline (EK, AF, LH, etc) would pay the non-signatory landing fees which are actually quite a bit higher.

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https://www.flypittsburgh.com/getattachment/Doing-Business/Fees-Rates-and-Charges-2019.pdf.aspx?lang=en-US
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:58 am

Good to see G4 resuming the PIT-PBI service and making it year round this time. Finally some stability after all the previous carriers coming and going.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:08 pm

June numbers are finally out. Total passengers are up 1%, int'l is down 32%.
https://www.flypittsburgh.com/getattachment/Newsroom/Airport-Statistics/June-2019-Short-E-Mail-Report.pdf.aspx?lang=en-US

As expected, a large drop in int'l but not quite as severe as I expected. Domestic is up 2.9%.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:59 pm

The way things are shaping up, it looks like PIT actually might not quite hit 10 million. It's evident how losing WW hurt PIT's international numbers, but the domestic airlines in general are adding seats by upgauging to larger equipment or adding frequencies. I guess that offset the losses enough to show a modest gain of about 2-3%. Granted the year is only half over, but hopefully better things are on the horizon for 2020.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:02 pm

DY dropping all TATL routes, citing MAX grounding. Won't seem them start here in the near future.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... ic-routes/
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:23 pm

Runway28L wrote:

WN
PIT-ATL 80% ATL-PIT 72%
PIT-BWI 75% BWI-PIT 71%
PIT-MDW 77% MDW-PIT 67%
PIT-DAL 82% DAL-PIT 90%
PIT-DEN 92% DEN-PIT 85%
PIT-FLL 93% FLL-PIT 93%
PIT-RSW 78% RSW-PIT 92%
PIT-HOU 68% HOU-PIT 77%
PIT-LAS 89% LAS-PIT 82%
PIT-LAX 82% LAX-PIT 89%
PIT-BNA 80% BNA-PIT 84%
PIT-MSY 59% MSY-PIT 96%
PIT-MCO 92% MCO-PIT 91%
PIT-PHX 75% PHX-PIT 95%
PIT-STL 90% STL-PIT 88%
PIT-TPA 81% TPA-PIT


Just curious why there is a 7% difference in the WN LAS flights. Are those 7% taking the NK fight back to PIT or just staying in Vegas or even connecting via somewhere else?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:28 pm

BA is sending a B789 to PIT again tomorrow.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/BA171

There is also a UA B764 scheduled to bring in the Kansas City Chiefs.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/UA2543
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:30 pm

Per the PDF shared in the WN fleet/network thread, WN is permanently discontinuing PIT-LAX effective 1/6/2020.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:39 pm

Runway28L wrote:
Per the PDF shared in the WN fleet/network thread, WN is permanently discontinuing PIT-LAX effective 1/6/2020.


The lack of PIT-LAX on a non-ULCC is a huge hole, especially with WN permanently discontinuing PIT-LAX nonstop service. PIT-LAX could be added by AA or DL with WN dropping PIT-LAX nonstop service.

Who is more likely to add PIT-LAX nonstop service, AA or DL?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:44 pm

jplatts wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
Per the PDF shared in the WN fleet/network thread, WN is permanently discontinuing PIT-LAX effective 1/6/2020.


The lack of PIT-LAX on a non-ULCC is a huge hole, especially with WN permanently discontinuing PIT-LAX nonstop service. PIT-LAX could be added by AA or DL with WN dropping PIT-LAX nonstop service.

Who is more likely to add PIT-LAX nonstop service, AA or DL?


Neither, I think. Both AA and UA have started and stopped PITLAX; UA used a 320, AA a 738. I think the route is too O&D-heavy on the LAX side. The MAX cuts haven't helped WN on the route either....
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:11 pm

DL is building up LAX. Adding new city pairs. They are my choice.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:01 pm

Hard to believe Pittsburgh will have almost as many weekly seats to London as all of Southern California.

Delta, you're up next.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:44 am

Just applied for a job with the ACAA, wish me luck.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:32 am

Here comes Iron Maiden.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N60 ... /KCVG/KPIT

Not exactly the ‘Ed Force One’ I had hoped for.
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