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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:46 pm

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BA has updated their PIT schedule. Outbound departs 21:10, one hour earlier, starting 03 Nov, which goes into at least February of 2020.


Northern Hemisphere Winter travel season adjustment
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:32 pm

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JetBlue brought in a A321 in this afternoon as a diversion. It was flying from SFO to BOS as B616

Was supposed to go into JFK. Got pics of him arriving, as well as DL1278 (B752) SLC-JFK.

Total mess out here right now. Raining cats and dog and lightning everywhere. Ramp currently closed.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:51 pm

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Delta28L wrote:
JetBlue brought in a A321 in this afternoon as a diversion. It was flying from SFO to BOS as B616

Was supposed to go into JFK. Got pics of him arriving, as well as DL1278 (B752) SLC-JFK.

Total mess out here right now. Raining cats and dog and lightning everywhere. Ramp currently closed.


MSP-LGA and SWA flight from MDW-LGA also diverted to PIT and Allegiant flight from MYR to PIT diverted to CVG and is currently enroute to PIT
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:02 am

Today, BA flew in G-ZBJA. Whilst looking at its recent flight history, I notices some interesting departure times from the US and Canada. Looking at the middle market cities it serves in NA, arrival times into LHR are interesting. I looked at 7 NA cities. I included BWI....not a middle market but so close to IAD, I was curious about the market. All of these cities have one flight either daily or a few times per week. The arrival times are interesting from a connection standpoint.

Airport Dep Arr
BWI 9:00pm 9:00am
PIT 9:50pm 10:25am
MSY 9:35pm 12:25pm
BNA 8:20pm 10:25am
AUS 6:30pm 10:00am
CHS 11:20pm 12:20pm
YYC 10:00pm 1:45 pm
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:07 am

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If anyone is around, Condor is sending the retro livery from FRA this evening.


https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/D-ABUM

Looks like it’s scheduled to stop by again tomorrow barring a swap.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/D-ABUM
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:08 pm

ConcourseZ wrote:
Today, BA flew in G-ZBJA. Whilst looking at its recent flight history, I notices some interesting departure times from the US and Canada. Looking at the middle market cities it serves in NA, arrival times into LHR are interesting. I looked at 7 NA cities. I included BWI....not a middle market but so close to IAD, I was curious about the market. All of these cities have one flight either daily or a few times per week. The arrival times are interesting from a connection standpoint.

Airport Dep Arr
BWI 9:00pm 9:00am
PIT 9:50pm 10:25am
MSY 9:35pm 12:25pm
BNA 8:20pm 10:25am
AUS 6:30pm 10:00am
CHS 11:20pm 12:20pm
YYC 10:00pm 1:45 pm


The thing I find rather interesting is AUS is a bit of an outlier in terms of its departure time. Yet, it arrives at LHR only 20 minutes earlier than the flights departing BNA (8:20 departure) and PIT (9:50 departure). AUS is only an hour behind PIT and BNA, correct?
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:09 pm

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ConcourseZ wrote:
Today, BA flew in G-ZBJA. Whilst looking at its recent flight history, I notices some interesting departure times from the US and Canada. Looking at the middle market cities it serves in NA, arrival times into LHR are interesting. I looked at 7 NA cities. I included BWI....not a middle market but so close to IAD, I was curious about the market. All of these cities have one flight either daily or a few times per week. The arrival times are interesting from a connection standpoint.

Airport Dep Arr
BWI 9:00pm 9:00am
PIT 9:50pm 10:25am
MSY 9:35pm 12:25pm
BNA 8:20pm 10:25am
AUS 6:30pm 10:00am
CHS 11:20pm 12:20pm
YYC 10:00pm 1:45 pm


The thing I find rather interesting is AUS is a bit of an outlier in terms of its departure time. Yet, it arrives at LHR only 20 minutes earlier than the flights departing BNA (8:20 departure) and PIT (9:50 departure). AUS is only an hour behind PIT and BNA, correct?


AUS and BNA are in the Central time zone
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:15 am

Delta28L wrote:
steeler83 wrote:
ConcourseZ wrote:
Today, BA flew in G-ZBJA. Whilst looking at its recent flight history, I notices some interesting departure times from the US and Canada. Looking at the middle market cities it serves in NA, arrival times into LHR are interesting. I looked at 7 NA cities. I included BWI....not a middle market but so close to IAD, I was curious about the market. All of these cities have one flight either daily or a few times per week. The arrival times are interesting from a connection standpoint.

Airport Dep Arr
BWI 9:00pm 9:00am
PIT 9:50pm 10:25am
MSY 9:35pm 12:25pm
BNA 8:20pm 10:25am
AUS 6:30pm 10:00am
CHS 11:20pm 12:20pm
YYC 10:00pm 1:45 pm


The thing I find rather interesting is AUS is a bit of an outlier in terms of its departure time. Yet, it arrives at LHR only 20 minutes earlier than the flights departing BNA (8:20 departure) and PIT (9:50 departure). AUS is only an hour behind PIT and BNA, correct?


AUS and BNA are in the Central time zone


Also, AUS is way further west than BNA (only YYC is further west of AUS). The AUS flight would essentially be a 7:30pm ET departure time, so you're talking about two hours earlier than the PIT departure (AUS-LHR also sees the 747 on a regular basis).

Actually, YYC would be an even bigger outlier since the 10:00pm MT departure would equal a midnight ET departure from PIT.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:14 pm

Here's the RoutesOnline posting of DE using A330-200 aircraft next summer, 29 May through 02 October.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:24 pm

October... that's a month extension, right?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:32 pm

So still no J class anymore which is a bummer, but a nice three week extension to the season. Great to see. Now if they could just up frequency...

Here is the latest word on BA from Christina Cassotis:
”All flights are doing really well this summer. We are really happy with the initial response on both sides ‘of the pond.’”
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:26 pm

June was an outstanding month for BA in both directions.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:45 pm

Flying to Canada. Passed a big line the the AK ticket counter.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:20 pm

Delta28L wrote:
steeler83 wrote:
ConcourseZ wrote:
Today, BA flew in G-ZBJA. Whilst looking at its recent flight history, I notices some interesting departure times from the US and Canada. Looking at the middle market cities it serves in NA, arrival times into LHR are interesting. I looked at 7 NA cities. I included BWI....not a middle market but so close to IAD, I was curious about the market. All of these cities have one flight either daily or a few times per week. The arrival times are interesting from a connection standpoint.

Airport Dep Arr
BWI 9:00pm 9:00am
PIT 9:50pm 10:25am
MSY 9:35pm 12:25pm
BNA 8:20pm 10:25am
AUS 6:30pm 10:00am
CHS 11:20pm 12:20pm
YYC 10:00pm 1:45 pm


The thing I find rather interesting is AUS is a bit of an outlier in terms of its departure time. Yet, it arrives at LHR only 20 minutes earlier than the flights departing BNA (8:20 departure) and PIT (9:50 departure). AUS is only an hour behind PIT and BNA, correct?


AUS and BNA are in the Central time zone

Ok I was actually wondering about that. I always thought BNA was in our time zone, but I guess I really was mistaken.

Good to see AUS get a little British jumbo love. Meanwhile, I'm glad that BA is even serving PIT again and that they seem to be doing well.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:35 pm

QR707 DOH-IAD is diverting to PIT.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/QR707
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:37 pm

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QR707 DOH-IAD is diverting to PIT.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/QR707


Stuck at the airport now myself, any idea where it's parked?
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:17 pm

I was on Tuesday's BA171, and it was full to the brim in the back. I think there was maybe one empty seat in Premium Economy when I boarded (I was one of the very last on) and I saw maybe one empty seat in the rear Club World cabin. Didn't see the front cabin. Pretty impressive for a Tuesday.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:43 pm

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Runway28L wrote:
QR707 DOH-IAD is diverting to PIT.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/QR707


Stuck at the airport now myself, any idea where it's parked?


Probably at Atlantic aviation if it’s not by the main terminal.

Frontier is using an A321 on today’s flights to and from DEN
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:33 pm

Best I could do from D for the QR777. Looks like they possibly deplaned.

http://imgur.com/gallery/s1ksUtE
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:58 pm

May 2019 stats for BA at PIT. Hopefully my math isn't off:
https://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA ... alysis.pdf

214 seats per flight > 18 flights each way > 3,852 monthly seats one way > 7,704 total monthly seats
PITTSBURGH 6,180 total 6,180 scheduled

So an 80.2% LF both ways combined for BA in May. A respectable number IMO. Cannot wait to see the June stats.

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Best I could do from D for the QR777. Looks like they possibly deplaned.

http://imgur.com/gallery/s1ksUtE

Did they close the glass doors that are by the duty free store? If they did, then they deplaned.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:33 pm

No, those doors were open. I saw some people milling in the sterile hallway towards customs, but probably staff.
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:09 am

Not a good night for QR707. It is still stranded at PIT and will not be able to depart until 0835 tomorrow morning due to an unrelated mechanical issue.
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:15 am

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Not a good night for QR707. It is still stranded at PIT and will not be able to depart until 0835 tomorrow morning due to an unrelated mechanical issue.

Ewwww. I feel their pain!!! Man, Pittsbugh and Philly and I guess DC got one rainy shellacking today!!
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:36 pm

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Not a good night for QR707. It is still stranded at PIT and will not be able to depart until 0835 tomorrow morning due to an unrelated mechanical issue.


More of a question here, did they go through customs in PIT, or were they kept in a sterile area before heading back to IAD? I guess if they had to spend the night, they would have to be processed through customs to get to hotels. And then, when QR707 returns to IAD, would they still park at an international gate and just let them out into the terminal, instead of being ushered straight to customs there?
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:55 pm

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Not a good night for QR707. It is still stranded at PIT and will not be able to depart until 0835 tomorrow morning due to an unrelated mechanical issue.


More of a question here, did they go through customs in PIT, or were they kept in a sterile area before heading back to IAD? I guess if they had to spend the night, they would have to be processed through customs to get to hotels. And then, when QR707 returns to IAD, would they still park at an international gate and just let them out into the terminal, instead of being ushered straight to customs there?

It depends on how long they are on the ground. If it’s a quick stop, then they’ll keep everyone on the plane and have crews cater and refuel the aircraft. If the stop is prolonged, then they will deboard into the gate area and seal off the end of C (that’s what those giant glass doors are for). Given what happened last night, I bet they deboarded and passed through customs at PIT, then were reaccomodated onto other flights or put in hotels for the night.

I’m currently here this morning. The plane is still here parked at the gate with hardly any activity around it.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:04 pm

Vacation Express released their 2020 schedule. Gone is PIT-MBJ.
https://www.vacationexpress.com/flight-schedule/
In the Caribbean PIT has gained and subsequently lost service to MBJ, FPO, and CZM. I don't expect POP to last with Apple Vacations either.


Southern Airways is working on an interline agreement with AS:
http://www.bradfordera.com/news/local/bradford-airport-project-for-industrial-park-road-begins/article_88b26f73-d8bd-5e50-932a-5b4c285e1469.html



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Here is the latest word on BA from Christina Cassotis:
”All flights are doing really well this summer. We are really happy with the initial response on both sides ‘of the pond.’”
https://twitter.com/chriscassotis/statu ... 62694?s=21

Nice to see outbound bookings solid in mid July. Last year outbound bookings on the CDG flight fell off a cliff in July. It was the same story in IND and to a lesser extent RDU and CVG.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:51 pm

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That's cool. I know they have one with AA, didn't they set up one with DE as well?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:51 pm

Does anyone know when they are going to move the plane because if they don't, it'd be a cool shot to have the 767, 777, and 787 all at the same spot
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:40 pm

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Does anyone know when they are going to move the plane because if they don't, it'd be a cool shot to have the 767, 777, and 787 all at the same spot


I tried to get access to take pictures but customs wouldn’t allow it. I asked a couple of questions and my answers were shot down by operations personnel and all they said is it’s causing more trouble then it needs to be because the crew timed out and they have to wait for the crew to come back on schedule to fly it home. They’ll probably leave this evening or move it over and park it where the new terminal will be since no planes use that area.

AA brought the pedimont livery in this afternoon (wish I could post photos) and the American West livery came in last night as well
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:38 pm

Pics of the QR B77W from today:
https://twitter.com/PITairport/status/1 ... 2362904578
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154462236 ... 267431951/

The aircraft last night had just pushed back from the gate bound for IAD, but the pilots got a tire pressure indication on the landing gear, then the crew timed out, which subsequently cancelled the flight. The plane is supposed to ferry out sometime tomorrow. DE will be moved to C61 tonight while BA will stay at C59.

International loads for December 2018:

WW
PIT-KEF 68% KEF-PIT 55%

AC
PIT-YUL 63% YUL-PIT 59%
PIT-YYZ 69% YYZ-PIT 59%

G4
PIT-CUN 74% CUN-PIT 73%
PIT-PUJ 96% PUJ-PIT 93%

DL
PIT-CUN 98% CUN-PIT 75%

Domestic loads for March 2019:

WN
PIT-ATL 81% ATL-PIT 77%
PIT-BWI 78% BWI-PIT 80%
PIT-MDW 76% MDW-PIT 72%
PIT-DAL 92% DAL-PIT 90%
PIT-DEN 88% DEN-PIT 79%
PIT-FLL 93% FLL-PIT 89%
PIT-RSW 85% RSW-PIT 91%
PIT-HOU 88% HOU-PIT 93%
PIT-LAS 92% LAS-PIT 88%
PIT-LAX 62% LAX-PIT 84%
PIT-BNA 78% BNA-PIT 79%
PIT-MSY 70% MSY-PIT 90%
PIT-MCO 93% MCO-PIT 93%
PIT-PHX 83% PHX-PIT 96%
PIT-STL 85% STL-PIT 84%
PIT-TPA 87% TPA-PIT 93%

AA
PIT-CLT 87% CLT-PIT 80.7%
PIT-ORD 80% ORD-PIT 79%
PIT-DFW 89% DFW-PIT 90.5%
PIT-MIA 91% MIA-PIT 93%
PIT-JFK 76% JFK-PIT 66%
PIT-LGA 60% LGA-PIT 64%
PIT-PHL 84% PHL-PIT 80.7%
PIT-PHX 87% PHX-PIT 91%
PIT-RDU 91% RDU-PIT 88%
PIT-DCA 78.5% DCA-PIT 79%

DL
PIT-ATL 88% ATL-PIT 88%
PIT-BOS 71.5% BOS-PIT 59%
PIT-DTW 62.75% DTW-PIT 77%
PIT-MSP 82% MSP-PIT 84.5%
PIT-JFK 69.7% JFK-PIT 68.5%
PIT-LGA 54% LGA-PIT 59.5%
PIT-MCO 88% MCO-PIT 92%
PIT-SLC 91% SLC-PIT 93%

UA
PIT-ORD 82.25% ORD-PIT 84%
PIT-DEN 87% DEN-PIT 91%
PIT-IAH 78.25% IAH-PIT 82.75%
PIT-EWR 82.7% EWR-PIT 82%
PIT-SFO 84% SFO-PIT 90%
PIT-IAD 84% IAD-PIT 81.5%

B6
PIT-BOS 74% BOS-PIT 75%

G4
PIT-AUS 91% AUS-PIT 90%
PIT-CHS 74% CHS-PIT 78%
PIT-JAX 81% JAX-PIT 80%
PIT-MSY 84% MSY-PIT 84%
PIT-PGD 89% PGD-PIT 90%
PIT-SFB 93% SFB-PIT 92%
PIT-SRQ 92% SRQ-PIT 93%
PIT-SAV 79% SAV-PIT 84%
PIT-PIE 87% PIE-PIT 88%


NK
PIT-FLL 92% FLL-PIT 95%
PIT-RSW 83% RSW-PIT 88%
PIT-LAS 88% LAS-PIT 92%
PIT-LAX 86% LAX-PIT 89%
PIT-MCO 98% MCO-PIT 95%
PIT-TPA 90% TPA-PIT 95%

AS
PIT-SEA 81% SEA-PIT 83%

F9
PIT-DEN 91% DEN-PIT 89%
PIT-PBI 91% PBI-PIT 93%

9X
PIT-AOO 21% AOO-PIT 22%
PIT-BFD 34% BFD-PIT 35%
PIT-DUJ 26% DUJ-PIT 27%
PIT-FKL 15% FKL-PIT 20%
PIT-HGR 45% HGR-PIT 37%
PIT-LNS 52% LNS-PIT 50%
PIT-MGW 24% MGW-PIT 22%
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:49 pm

A few anecdotes from the above data:

- Strong numbers for UA on SFO continue
- An upgrade by DL to SLC is now overdue
- AA surprisingly did really well to RDU in March. Let's see how they do against DL.
- AS rebounded nicely after a brutal winter
- BOS is a complete dumpster fire for DL
- NK should either go 2x daily to MCO and FLL or upgrade both to an A321. Looks like FLL is picking up an extra Mon/Fri-only frequency on an A319 in December.
- F9 continues to dumbfound
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:59 pm

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A few anecdotes from the above data:

- Strong numbers for UA on SFO continue
- An upgrade by DL to SLC is now overdue
- AA surprisingly did really well to RDU in March. Let's see how they do against DL.
- AS rebounded nicely after a brutal winter
- BOS is a complete dumpster fire for DL
- NK should either go 2x daily to MCO and FLL or upgrade both to an A321. Looks like FLL is picking up an extra Mon/Fri-only frequency on an A319 in December.
- F9 continues to dumbfound


I thought AA canceled the RDU in response to DL adding it? NK is going double daily on the FLL flight on select days this winter. Wouldn’t be surprised about the MCO flights to capture some of the passengers who use SWA as SWA deals with the MAX grounding
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:18 pm

AA is still flying PITRDU once daily with a PSA CRJ-200.....
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Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:35 am

"Hundreds stranded after storms divert Qatar Airways flight to Pittsburgh"
https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/hundreds-stranded-after-storms-divert-qatar-airways-flight-to-pittsburgh/966464162
The video reveals a bit more than the text.

What a debacle. One would think being a fellow OW member AA reps would have met these passengers to help with booking onward flights or help arrange hotels or ground transportation on behalf of Qatar.

Same for a tire pressure gauge. Does QR not have agreements for contract maintenance services? PIT is after all a mx base for a OW carrier. It's not like maintenance technicians have specific type ratings on aircraft like pilots do. It should have been a relatively simple matter of QR faxing an engineering order over to the AA mx base and AA sending a mechanic over to manually check the pressure, defer the tire pressure indicator, sign off the logbook, put an MEL sticker in the cockpit, and send them on their way.

I can't imagine if this was an A380 without a tow bar at PIT, but that horse has been beaten to death.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:45 am

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"Hundreds stranded after storms divert Qatar Airways flight to Pittsburgh"
https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/hundreds-stranded-after-storms-divert-qatar-airways-flight-to-pittsburgh/966464162
The video reveals a bit more than the text.

What a debacle. One would think being a fellow OW member AA reps would have met these passengers to help with booking onward flights or help arrange hotels or ground transportation on behalf of Qatar.

Same for a tire pressure gauge. Does QR not have agreements for contract maintenance services? PIT is after all a mx base for a OW carrier. It's not like maintenance technicians have specific type ratings on aircraft like pilots do. It should have been a relatively simple matter of QR faxing an engineering order over to the AA mx base and AA sending a mechanic over to manually check the pressure, defer the tire pressure indicator, sign off the logbook, put an MEL sticker in the cockpit, and send them on their way.

I can't imagine if this was an A380 without a tow bar at PIT, but that horse has been beaten to death.



PIT is a maintenance base for republic airways who does the flying for United Delta And American. Republic works on the ERJ jets in the big blue hangars. PIT only does narrow body maintenance for AA. They don’t carry parts for a 777s or A330s or 787s since AA does that work in Tulsa, Dallas and overseas and the maintenance guys are not type rated for the big jets . It would be a waste of space and money to keep parts they don’t use. I am surprised they didn’t request a part and AA could’ve flown one in on one of the Dallas flights last night or this morning and had the plane fixed instead of it sitting on the ramp all day. But hey AA has their own problems with their mechanic unions to deal with let alone another airline.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:59 am

QR was not a sensor issue. It had two blown tires on the right main. It was repaired shortly after midnight. The crew was given 24 hrs rest. End of story. No hidden drama anywhere.
 
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Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:00 am

Delete. Duplicate post.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:58 pm

Has anyone heard of the response to the BA LHR-PIT art exhibit promo on the south bank of the Thames? It ended June 9.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:17 pm

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What a debacle. One would think being a fellow OW member AA reps would have met these passengers to help with booking onward flights or help arrange hotels or ground transportation on behalf of Qatar.


Why would one think that? Why would AA employees be empowered to spend QR's money? Why would you expect AA employees to be trained in QR systems? If AA had a handling contract at a specific airport (say, LAX or ORD), sure.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:09 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
Why would one think that? Why would AA employees be empowered to spend QR's money? Why would you expect AA employees to be trained in QR systems? If AA had a handling contract at a specific airport (say, LAX or ORD), sure.

Why would AA need to be trained in QR systems to help arrange local ground transportation, hotels (with authorization from QR - obviously), or re-booking on AA?
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:32 am

Delta28L wrote:
Frontier is using an A321 on today’s flights to and from DEN


That's a permanent upgauge for the summer.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/FFT274/history/20190714/1947Z/KDEN/KPIT

Lets drop a route that is being upgauged due to demand :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:
Comparing notes with the CLE thread, looks like PIT-PBI was 4% higher than CLE-PBI in March so I think the fact PIT-PBI gets the axe kinda affirms my suspicion that F9's strategy for PIT (and CMH) is to simply have people drive to CLE. And why not if that's what they are doing.
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:19 am

It's been said so many times before but Frontier is just mystifying.

I can sort of see waffling on PBI - they're ostensibly competing with 2 dailies (WN and NK) to FLL and 3 AA regional jets a day to MIA, and for all O&D as they have zero connection opportunity.

PIT-DEN vs CLE though is just a mystery. They currently face almost equal competition in CLE (39 weekly departures in CLE vs. 38 in PIT) and just a quick look at pricing shows about the same difference between Frontier and the competition in both cities, yet CLE has 9 weekly departures to our 3. And in the winter season, our route drops entirely while theirs goes down to 3 weekly.

Are that many people really driving to CLE for a $50ish savings per seat? I grew up literally 5 minutes from Hopkins and could make the turnpike trip blindfolded and I still wouldn't contemplate bookending my trip with a 2 hour drive for that little savings even on a family trip. Maybe I'm missing something.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:21 pm

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It's been said so many times before but Frontier is just mystifying.


Yea, I just don't get it. Sure, they could hope for people to make the drive to CLE, or they could build up PIT more and make money from BOTH airports.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:32 pm

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flyPIT wrote:


That's cool. I know they have one with AA, didn't they set up one with DE as well?


Yes they do have one with DE and the one with AS shouldn't take too long to put into effect as Mokulele had an agreement prior to being purchased by Southern
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:38 pm

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A few anecdotes from the above data:

- Strong numbers for UA on SFO continue


They seem to be slowly upgauging this flight some days from an A319 to a 739 in the morning and an A320 in the afternoon. I'm on it a few times a year, and my upgrades as a 1K rarely ever clear. They're selling the majority of that first class cabin, so I'd imagine they're making bank.

It'd be amazing to see a heavier rollout of PS service to more of the east, PIT included. But I can't imagine that's going to happen with the 752s slowly going out. They'd need to upgauge some of the second tier European flights and reallocate them.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:07 pm

Has anyone taken NK333 to LAS before? I’ve never flown NK before but have heard both good and bad stories from friends & family. Currently planning a flight LAS next month.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:22 pm

AaronPGH wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
A few anecdotes from the above data:

- Strong numbers for UA on SFO continue


They seem to be slowly upgauging this flight some days from an A319 to a 739 in the morning and an A320 in the afternoon. I'm on it a few times a year, and my upgrades as a 1K rarely ever clear. They're selling the majority of that first class cabin, so I'd imagine they're making bank.

It'd be amazing to see a heavier rollout of PS service to more of the east, PIT included. But I can't imagine that's going to happen with the 752s slowly going out. They'd need to upgauge some of the second tier European flights and reallocate them.

UA is planning on adding more F seats to the Airbus fleet, though I’m not sure if it will be held up by the MAX grounding. The A319s are supposed to go from 8F>12F and the A320s go from 12F>16F. Given what I’ve heard, it shouldn’t be hard for UA to fill up four extra first class seats on PIT-SFO.

CaptainMidnight wrote:
Has anyone taken NK333 to LAS before? I’ve never flown NK before but have heard both good and bad stories from friends & family. Currently planning a flight LAS next month.

A friend of mine was on last night’s flight. He said it wasn’t too bad. The lack of WiFi is brutal but for $65, it was still a great value. Though he is absolutely not looking forward to the redeye back tomorrow night.

PIT is sorely missing WN on this route this month due to the MAX grounding. Superior product and their schedule was much better. Personally, I’d look at connecting opportunities first. But if you want the value, I’d go for it.
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:58 pm

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CaptainMidnight wrote:
Has anyone taken NK333 to LAS before? I’ve never flown NK before but have heard both good and bad stories from friends & family. Currently planning a flight LAS next month.


Flight there was awful, mostly because I ended up next to a bunch of drunk & obnoxious passengers that the flight attendants kept serving.

Red eye back wasn’t too bad back, not the most comfortable seats but that’s as expected.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:41 pm

A positive about nk and f9 is they have new fleets. Yes cramped but the planes are quieter and have better lighting. To me it’s worth something. . .
 
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Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:54 am

Condor had network planners visit Pittsburgh last week and a radio interview was done with Carsten Sasse, Head of Sales in International Markets at DE. I can't find a playback, but here's some excerpts from the interview, many of them being very interesting:

Q: Tell us about the flight.
A: This is the third consecutive year for the flight. We connect Frankfurt nonstop with Pittsburgh with two weekly frequencies, Monday and Friday, from May 31 to Sept. 16.


Q: How is the flight doing?
A: Business is doing very well. We would like to extend the season or increase capacity [next summer] but that depends on some factors. That’s one of the reasons why we are here to talk with the local business community and to see where we can push our route.


Q: You have both business and leisure travelers. Do you focus on one category more than others?
A: Of course we love both. I would say we have more leisure travelers on the Pittsburgh-Frankfurt flight, but we have a great corporate presence for those who want to use the only nonstop flight between Pittsburgh and Germany.


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Q: What would be an ideal schedule from PIT to Frankfurt?
A: In the future, we would love to see a minimum operation of six months with a minimum of three frequencies per week.


Q: What would drive that growth? Is it bookings?
A: Of course. Actually, we have the same plan for next summer as we have this year, but this planning is still quite open. We want to see the success of the route. We are happy to be here for the third year. But we think in the future we really should increase service. If we bring all the pieces in the right way together – our fleet management, the local stakeholders – we are sure we can increase operations in the future.


Q: For you personally, this is your first time in Pittsburgh. What are your impressions?
A: It’s amazing. It’s a vibrant and dynamic city – and it’s quite green. We think this is a very nice place for Europeans to stay and come and visit. To see it is impressive. And we noticed the friendliness of the people.


Q: This may seem obvious to you, but will the flight be back in 2020?
A: Of course. It’s whether we can increase capacity next year or [have a schedule] similar to this year.


Q: What about the transatlantic competition in the Pittsburgh market?
A: I would say the picture changed a bit from last year. Some carriers left and another started. The competition has a different pricing picture so we are not afraid. There is enough space for all of us. It’s good to have competition generally if it fits in the market.


"Condor Airlines Eyes Future Growth in Pittsburgh"
https://blueskypit.com/2019/07/12/condo ... ittsburgh/

So the main takeaways:
- There's word going around that despite RoutesOnline, Capa, and Condor's booking engine showing an A332 for 2020, the schedule has not been finalized yet. This also seems to be indicated by Sasse in this interview. I really hope for next year, they stick with the B763 for the sake of offering J class.
- 3x weekly for 6 months out of the year is what they'd like to see at the least, so that sounds like a May-October season if I were to predict. IMO that is absolutely doable and I'm glad they are considering it. The route may have to mature a little more, but I believe it is certainly able to.
- They don't seem to be fazed if a third carrier like EI jumps in, claiming a difference in their pricing structure vs other airlines.

Overall, Condor seems to be very happy with PIT which is excellent news.
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