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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:30 am

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Turkish Airlines is returning to the Super Bowl for its third consecutive Big Game spot. The 30-second commercial will air in the first quarter of the Big Game, on Feb. 3.

https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/ ... cond-spot/

Great!! Can't wait to see it, finally !!!
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:09 am

Hey guys do we know when Turkish plans on getting their 789s delivered? And Also, I remember reading a while back regarding a change in catering then another news saying pretty much "nevermind" so will we be seeing a change in service in catering once all ops move over to ISL?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:59 am

itripreport wrote:
Hey guys do we know when Turkish plans on getting their 789s delivered? And Also, I remember reading a while back regarding a change in catering then another news saying pretty much "nevermind" so will we be seeing a change in service in catering once all ops move over to ISL?

The first 789 is planned for delivery to TK late June 2019, if all goes well. 5 more 789s are planned for delivery till the end of 2019.

As for 359s: It was first two were said to be delivered before the end of 2019, but more recent talk indicates these are postponed to some date during the first half of 2020.

I couldn't really understand your question about TK catering but it will still be done by the Turkish Do&Co (and presently is...). It's questionable if Turkish Do & Co will be fully operational at its new and big facility at current ISL, if TK will be able to make its own complete move here by the beginning of March...
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:48 pm

TK's new goals for the end of 2019..... 80M pax, up from 75.2M this year.
Also they say they want to grow in the Americas 7% this year, that means roughly 1000 pax a day, 500 each way. So, about two more round trips from IST. MEX will be one of that, later in the year. Any ideas, how they will carry another 350,000 pax by the end of the year to the Americas with new Long Haul planes only arriving in the second half of the year? And still have to use them for DPS and others also.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:25 pm

TK787 wrote:
TK's new goals for the end of 2019..... 80M pax, up from 75.2M this year.
Also they say they want to grow in the Americas 7% this year, that means roughly 1000 pax a day, 500 each way. So, about two more round trips from IST. MEX will be one of that, later in the year. Any ideas, how they will carry another 350,000 pax by the end of the year to the Americas with new Long Haul planes only arriving in the second half of the year? And still have to use them for DPS and others also.



Besides that IST- MEX services will not be on daily basis; they will start as x3 weekly but will probably stay that way for a long period of time...
Probably some new destinations in the USA will be added or perhaps a Vancouver surprise (but in such case will not be more than x3 or x4 weekly)???
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:48 am

In the recent opening ceremony of Uni-Free Duty-Free Stores complex in (New) Istanbul Airport's Terminal, GM of DHMI, Ms. Funda Ocak declared that the big bang relocation of Atatürk Airport will be finalised by 3rd March 2019, and from this date onwards all commercial passenger flights will be made from the New Istanbul Airport. Ataturk Airport will still be functional for the all cargo flights (for some period of time), MRO facilities of THY & OnurAir (possibly for a longer period of time), most (if not all) General Aviation operations for Istanbul's European side and will also host several annual aviation related trade shows and similar events. Also, DHMI's ATC Center will still remain at Ataturk AP till 2022-2023. She made no specific reference about the conversion of Ataturk AP to "people's park", "aviation university" or the like. She mentioned, the long-awaited relocation was a bit delayed till March, for eliminating any adverse effects due to winter weather.

Here's the link in Turkish:
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ekonomi/son- ... u-41083436
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:32 am

Airline Weekly has a story about Turkey, and made a couple interesting points.

o Istanbul joins small list of global cities with airport traffic exceeding 100million
o Turkey now 4th largest aviation market in Europe, just having passed France.
o 4 of Europe's top 10 busiest routes in Turkey
o TK 3rd largest airline in Europen when measured by capacity
o As of October 2018, the largest TK longhaul transit markets were: JFK-TLV, CAI-NRT, SFO-TLV, ATH-NRT, ATH-ICN, TLV-SIN, AMS-CGK, MNL-TLV, LHR-KBL.
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:49 am

LAXintl wrote:
o As of October 2018, the largest TK longhaul transit markets were: JFK-TLV, CAI-NRT, SFO-TLV, ATH-NRT, ATH-ICN, TLV-SIN, AMS-CGK, MNL-TLV, LHR-KBL.


I would have never guessed LHR-KBL. Interesting!
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:07 am

TK launches two new Vienna flights:

Gaziantep – Vienna 19JUN19 – 05SEP19 1 weekly A321
TK1207 GZT 0345 – 0555VIE 321 4
TK1208 VIE 2225 – 0225+1GZT 321 3

Izmir – Vienna 23JUN19 – 09SEP19 1 weekly A321
TK1209 ADB 0415 – 0555VIE 321 1
TK1210 VIE 2225 – 0150+1ADB 321 7

Is it so that the plane doesn't spend the night parked at Vienna airport? I guess crew that arrives to Vienna at night takes the plane back in the morning while a different set of crew flies to Izmir and Gaziantep?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:51 pm

these flights are quite regular and done over the years during the peak summer season.
actually, it's a very smart way of increasing aircraft utilization despite strict night curfews at many European airports.
those flights more or less sell themselves due to heavy VFR traffic.
aircraft usually arrives from IST in the evening and leaves to Turkey again just before the curfew with immediate return in order to operate the regular flight again. something like:
IST 2000-2120 VIE 2225-0225 GZT 0345-0555 VIE 0700-1010
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:44 pm

What happened to the Turkish - Thai Airlines codeshares? I'm never able to pull them up on the TK website.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:20 pm

stylo777 wrote:
these flights are quite regular and done over the years during the peak summer season.
actually, it's a very smart way of increasing aircraft utilization despite strict night curfews at many European airports.
those flights more or less sell themselves due to heavy VFR traffic.
aircraft usually arrives from IST in the evening and leaves to Turkey again just before the curfew with immediate return in order to operate the regular flight again. something like:
IST 2000-2120 VIE 2225-0225 GZT 0345-0555 VIE 0700-1010


That I understood but what I am curious about is how does TK arrange the crew? Can they operate those four flights with the same crew or do they have to switch them in Vienna?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 pm

Why switch in Vienna and incur cost like hotels? I am sure TK can change on the Turkish end be it ADB or GZT.
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:49 pm

Hi everyone I've been traveling a bit so wasnt able to contribute, went to Tulum and fell in love, got a questionr egarding CUN flights when will it be bookable? Thanks
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:45 pm

gokmengs wrote:
Hi everyone I've been traveling a bit so wasnt able to contribute, went to Tulum and fell in love, got a questionr egarding CUN flights when will it be bookable? Thanks

Welcome back, now it is my turn.
I am leaving in two days to go pretty close to Tulum. I thought MEX flights are bookable, just looked at TK website and could not find anything :(
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:37 pm

Turkish Airlines crew robbed in South Africa:
https://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2019/ ... hannesburg
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:38 pm

Quite interesting, but very informative announcement of this PC captain before takeoff in SAW. Unfortunately, only in Turkish, but I still wanted to share it with you:

https://youtu.be/qBXsYkxOZ3k
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:53 pm

stylo777 wrote:
Quite interesting, but very informative announcement of this PC captain before takeoff in SAW. Unfortunately, only in Turkish, but I still wanted to share it with you:

https://youtu.be/qBXsYkxOZ3k


What's interesting about it? ....for us who don't speak Turkish.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:27 am

Bit off topic, sorry, but IST's website has only been showing flight arrivals and departures for the last few days, due to technical issues.

I'm looking to book the inaugural IST - LXR service in September, but if I go for taking the MAN - IST and IST - LXR flights on the same day I have to battle through the rush hour traffic on the M61 - M60 - M62 junctions; which actually starts to back up from about 06:15 onwards and has got worse since they introduced the "smart motorway", so I'm going to fly to IST on the Sunday afternoon and overnight in an airport hotel.

Thanks to status, I can partake of late check-out, but I need to know how long before the flight I can enter IST Departures and move airside; the IST - LXR flight won't leave until after 23:00 and I know there are airports where they won't even let you into the terminal, never mind airside, more than 3 hours before your departure time.

Additionally, the flights are using A321 & A320 as the scheduled equipment. Last time I flew TK it was on a 738, which had no inflight entertainment, other than audio channels. Has this changed or not?

Thanks in advance for any information anyone can provide.
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:15 pm

Come September it will be the new airport, not current Ataturk, so how things will operate and any restrictions on access are not yet known.

Also regarding equipment - its all subject to change. TK is very dynamic with its fleet allocation and can and does change equipment especially on its narrowbody fleet down to day basis on occasion.
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:59 am

Turkish Airlines and Stelia Aerospace have confirmed this is TK's new B787/A350 business class seat, same design as SQ's 'regional business class' on its Boeing 787-10 and later A350s.
https://www.ausbt.com.au/photos-turkish ... ource=hero
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:52 pm

Unconfirmed leak : LAX may get 787 too, as double
daily.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:25 pm

CraigAnderson wrote:
Turkish Airlines and Stelia Aerospace have confirmed this is TK's new B787/A350 business class seat, same design as SQ's 'regional business class' on its Boeing 787-10 and later A350s.
https://www.ausbt.com.au/photos-turkish ... ource=hero


I've flown the new SQ seats from PER. They're rather comfortable. Glad Turkish is going with a 1-2-1 layout.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:36 pm

TK's international expansion from Ankara took place with LGW and FCO this month. I have done t.both of he flights and very good service and loads not looking so bad to start with at such a low season actually. Ankara Baku was not reinstated by THY as planned though and Ankara Tbilisi was launched instead on January 17th. TK now announced daily service from ESB to BGW from March 31st.

Pegasus also srtaitng Ankara Baku in March initially with 4 weekly then daily from end of the month. Quite a regional expansion taking place, I guess TK dropped Ankara Baku due to Pegasus initiative to do this daily rotation.

Looks like 2019 will be record breaking year for international service expansion from ESB.
 
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Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:01 pm

ankaraflyjet wrote:
TK's international expansion from Ankara took place with LGW and FCO this month. I have done t.both of he flights and very good service and loads not looking so bad to start with at such a low season actually. Ankara Baku was not reinstated by THY as planned though and Ankara Tbilisi was launched instead on January 17th. TK now announced daily service from ESB to BGW from March 31st.

Pegasus also srtaitng Ankara Baku in March initially with 4 weekly then daily from end of the month. Quite a regional expansion taking place, I guess TK dropped Ankara Baku due to Pegasus initiative to do this daily rotation.

Looks like 2019 will be record breaking year for international service expansion from ESB.


The question is, will we see intercontinental flights from ESB? I hated transiting through IST when I lived in Turkey.
I believe TK's IST-centered expansion was a mistake. There are a few airports with transit hub potential in the country.
 
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Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:07 pm

Also, from August 2019 onward, TK will fly triple daily to Bangkok and from September 2019 onward, 7-weekly to Phuket.
Quite the expansion in Thailand for the airline.
 
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Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:14 pm

aldrigsomandre wrote:
Also, from August 2019 onward, TK will fly triple daily to Bangkok and from September 2019 onward, 7-weekly to Phuket.
Quite the expansion in Thailand for the airline.

quite a boost and certainly makes sense!
all EU flights arriving around 1400-1600 will have great connection times to the new flight:
TK 058 IST BKK 1755 0730+
(instead of waiting another two hours for TK 064 leaving at 2010)
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:42 am

Whlist I believe in the potential of a ESB IAD or ESB JFK (or Newark) flight I do not think that it will happen soon. If ESB can sustain growing as a regional hub for a few years with additional services to Europe and Middle East and TK is happy with loads there is a possibility. I do not see any airline other than TK to do this and they are already very busy with new IST airport, I am even surprised to see recent route additions by THY as they now realize Turkey is too large to tap into IST only. We see TK adding new routes from various Turkish airports to international destinations and that is very good for the economy of each of those cities opening new trade/business, tourism and better connectivity to Turkey.

As you may well know there is no scheduled service by any North American airline to Turkey at present with AC axing IST 3 years ago. AC is not likely to come back even though the number of Canadian travelers to Turkey increased recently. Concerning UA and DL again nothing new unless ocean-liners start cruises from Turkey again bringing tourists. Of course IST became a dangerous territory for foreign airlines due to stiff competition from THY with superior service that most airlines cannot match. At a time when most airlines charge for a sandwich THY is offering free hot meals, wifi etc. so hard to compete by others for service to IST. Also Turkish customers are more inclined to fly a Turkish carrier rather than a foreign airline for convenience purposes. In conclusion I am not expecting any immediate Ankara North America route but sincerely hope this will happen in the near future.








aldrigsomandre wrote:
ankaraflyjet wrote:
TK's international expansion from Ankara took place with LGW and FCO this month. I have done t.both of he flights and very good service and loads not looking so bad to start with at such a low season actually. Ankara Baku was not reinstated by THY as planned though and Ankara Tbilisi was launched instead on January 17th. TK now announced daily service from ESB to BGW from March 31st.

Pegasus also srtaitng Ankara Baku in March initially with 4 weekly then daily from end of the month. Quite a regional expansion taking place, I guess TK dropped Ankara Baku due to Pegasus initiative to do this daily rotation.

Looks like 2019 will be record breaking year for international service expansion from ESB.


The question is, will we see intercontinental flights from ESB? I hated transiting through IST when I lived in Turkey.
I believe TK's IST-centered expansion was a mistake. There are a few airports with transit hub potential in the country.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:55 am

ankaraflyjet wrote:
TK's international expansion from Ankara took place with LGW and FCO this month. I have done t.both of he flights and very good service and loads not looking so bad to start with at such a low season actually. Ankara Baku was not reinstated by THY as planned though and Ankara Tbilisi was launched instead on January 17th. TK now announced daily service from ESB to BGW from March 31st.

Pegasus also srtaitng Ankara Baku in March initially with 4 weekly then daily from end of the month. Quite a regional expansion taking place, I guess TK dropped Ankara Baku due to Pegasus initiative to do this daily rotation.

Looks like 2019 will be record breaking year for international service expansion from ESB.


Its been longtime coming for you, its almost like you convinced them:) All kidding aside tough living in Ankara for a FF, you have a megahub 40 minutes away, so tough to bypass it often.

MeCe wrote:
Unconfirmed leak : LAX may get 787 too, as double
daily.

That would be very welcome actually, I've heard flight to LAX are doing very well. The new airport and the arival of 350/787's will benefit mostly North America IMO. Looking forward to DTW, SEA, DEN.
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:45 am

aldrigsomandre wrote:
Also, from August 2019 onward, TK will fly triple daily to Bangkok and from September 2019 onward, 7-weekly to Phuket.
Quite the expansion in Thailand for the airline.


Also the schedule of the HKT flights has been improved, getting rid of the very early morning turn around in Phuket:

Current timings:
TK172 IST HKT 1500-0425+1
TK173 HKT IST 0555-1305

New timings:
TK172 IST HKT 2005 0950+1
TK173 HKT IST 1120-1745
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:07 am

Hi guys, recently my partner returned from Turkey using TK. Both flight in and out of KUL TK 60/TK61 were booked to the brim, overbooked as matter of fact. The A333 was awesome, loads of entertainment, and F&B was nice. They really need B77W for KUL as they are the sole operator since MH quits long time ago. He got me a copy of SkyLife, which I enjoyed reading. Any idea if I can get it as subscription? I know TK run a website for SkyLife with archive, I prefer hardcopy though.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:14 am

juliuswong wrote:
Hi guys, recently my partner returned from Turkey using TK. Both flight in and out of KUL TK 60/TK61 were booked to the brim, overbooked as matter of fact. The A333 was awesome, loads of entertainment, and F&B was nice. They really need B77W for KUL as they are the sole operator since MH quits long time ago. He got me a copy of SkyLife, which I enjoyed reading. Any idea if I can get it as subscription? I know TK run a website for SkyLife with archive, I prefer hardcopy though.


Unfortunately, no subscriptions, just the online copy.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:48 am

aldrigsomandre wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Hi guys, recently my partner returned from Turkey using TK. Both flight in and out of KUL TK 60/TK61 were booked to the brim, overbooked as matter of fact. The A333 was awesome, loads of entertainment, and F&B was nice. They really need B77W for KUL as they are the sole operator since MH quits long time ago. He got me a copy of SkyLife, which I enjoyed reading. Any idea if I can get it as subscription? I know TK run a website for SkyLife with archive, I prefer hardcopy though.


Unfortunately, no subscriptions, just the online copy.

Hi aldrigsomandre, thank you for the quick reply. Guess I will need to settle with online copy.
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:04 am

Most international travelers to ESB will still naturally use IST because the new flights introduced are twice weekly to start with. In fact some future flights between Ankara and London are already fully booked as I was trying to buy tickets for the high season so that is very encouraging. It was not fair for Turkish capital to be left without any international service by the flag carrier. It is good that this is changing and Ankara is put on the world map again as it deserves to be. Just like every other Turk I will always be proud of the success of Turkish Airlines as well as the new airport in Istanbul, I am actually from Istanbul FYI, as my ancestors have been as far as 17th century as we could trace….


gokmengs wrote:
ankaraflyjet wrote:
TK's international expansion from Ankara took place with LGW and FCO this month. I have done t.both of he flights and very good service and loads not looking so bad to start with at such a low season actually. Ankara Baku was not reinstated by THY as planned though and Ankara Tbilisi was launched instead on January 17th. TK now announced daily service from ESB to BGW from March 31st.

Pegasus also srtaitng Ankara Baku in March initially with 4 weekly then daily from end of the month. Quite a regional expansion taking place, I guess TK dropped Ankara Baku due to Pegasus initiative to do this daily rotation.

Looks like 2019 will be record breaking year for international service expansion from ESB.


Its been longtime coming for you, its almost like you convinced them:) All kidding aside tough living in Ankara for a FF, you have a megahub 40 minutes away, so tough to bypass it often.

MeCe wrote:
Unconfirmed leak : LAX may get 787 too, as double
daily.

That would be very welcome actually, I've heard flight to LAX are doing very well. The new airport and the arival of 350/787's will benefit mostly North America IMO. Looking forward to DTW, SEA, DEN.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:53 am

It was not fair for Turkish capital to be left without any international service by the flag carrier. It is good that this is changing and Ankara is put on the world map again as it deserves to be.


And not to mention that the State has been paying annual compensation to TAV for the unfulfilled part of the international pax guarantee that has been present in the BOTS Agreement... :oops:
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:00 am

mafaky wrote:
It was not fair for Turkish capital to be left without any international service by the flag carrier. It is good that this is changing and Ankara is put on the world map again as it deserves to be.


And not to mention that the State has been paying annual compensation to TAV for the unfulfilled part of the international pax guarantee that has been present in the BOTS Agreement... :oops:


Isn't the Turkish government rather liberal with the pax guarantees?
My friends told me about a barely used airport somewhere in Turkey with a hefty bill for the taxpayers.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:41 am

Turkish Airlines have started shifting to the new airport and by 3rd March onwards they will be shifting all their flights to the new airport, does anyone knows that by when the other airlines shift to the new airport?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:01 am

TK opened few new large facilities the other day, and the word is March 3rd, it will be a majestic clusterfu**, but it will be the start of the big move I'm pretty much most major airlines will follow suit before the end of the month.
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:25 pm

aldrigsomandre wrote:
Isn't the Turkish government rather liberal with the pax guarantees?
My friends told me about a barely used airport somewhere in Turkey with a hefty bill for the taxpayers.

indeed! the airport is KZR/LTBZ Zafer Havalimani "serving" the cities of Kütahya, Afyon and Usak.
as far as I remember, 800.000 pax guaranteed per year, but only 80-100.000 pax realized... go figure... :?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:01 pm

stylo777 wrote:
aldrigsomandre wrote:
Also, from August 2019 onward, TK will fly triple daily to Bangkok and from September 2019 onward, 7-weekly to Phuket.
Quite the expansion in Thailand for the airline.

quite a boost and certainly makes sense!
all EU flights arriving around 1400-1600 will have great connection times to the new flight:
TK 058 IST BKK 1755 0730+
(instead of waiting another two hours for TK 064 leaving at 2010)


4 hours of waiting is not great, 2 hours is ok.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:06 pm

HB-IWC wrote:
aldrigsomandre wrote:
Also, from August 2019 onward, TK will fly triple daily to Bangkok and from September 2019 onward, 7-weekly to Phuket.
Quite the expansion in Thailand for the airline.


Also the schedule of the HKT flights has been improved, getting rid of the very early morning turn around in Phuket:

Current timings:
TK172 IST HKT 1500-0425+1
TK173 HKT IST 0555-1305

New timings:
TK172 IST HKT 2005 0950+1
TK173 HKT IST 1120-1745


Dumb move. Now the HKT flights will no longer connect nicely to USA flights.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:07 pm

Slash787 wrote:
Turkish Airlines have started shifting to the new airport and by 3rd March onwards they will be shifting all their flights to the new airport, does anyone knows that by when the other airlines shift to the new airport?


I've been following this tread and it seems to postpone all the time so I don't trust the timetable. I guess we know the real timetable after it has happened.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:46 pm

Greetings from DXB.

As I mentioned before, I now use only SAW for DXB connections to avoid IST zoo. I'm very pleased with SAW connections and obviously looking forward to fly directly from ESB to DXB. Likewise many pax from ESB-SAW flight transited to DXB flight with me.

ankaraflyjet wrote:
TK's international expansion from Ankara took place with LGW and FCO this month. I have done t.both of he flights and very good service and loads not looking so bad to start with at such a low season actually. Ankara Baku was not reinstated by THY as planned though and Ankara Tbilisi was launched instead on January 17th. TK now announced daily service from ESB to BGW from March 31st.

Pegasus also srtaitng Ankara Baku in March initially with 4 weekly then daily from end of the month. Quite a regional expansion taking place, I guess TK dropped Ankara Baku due to Pegasus initiative to do this daily rotation.

Looks like 2019 will be record breaking year for international service expansion from ESB.

It is really pleasing to see this happening but not enough as frequencies need to increase. We already used in the company many European direct flights and most possibly will use Tbilisi flight as well in a few weeks time. Ankara Chamber of Commerce is now pushing for JFK/IAD flights. I believe eventually these will happen too.
The future is in the skies.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:05 pm

Dieuwer wrote:

Dumb move. Now the HKT flights will no longer connect nicely to USA flights.


TK business is not about carrying a few people from the USA to Thailand, but much larger European and local market where the updated times are quite attractive for.
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:13 pm

mercure1 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

Dumb move. Now the HKT flights will no longer connect nicely to USA flights.


TK business is not about carrying a few people from the USA to Thailand, but much larger European and local market where the updated times are quite attractive for.


I seriously wonder if the European market is not completely over-served. Every European and Middle Eastern Airline and their mommies are flying bulldozer planes between Europe and Asia. Yields must be so trashy, probably nobody makes money unless they get massive government handouts.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:25 pm

How is the bilateral Air Service Agreement between UAE and Turkey? Is there any available slot for any Turkish and/or UAE carrier to use for ESB DXB?

TK105 wrote:
Greetings from DXB.

As I mentioned before, I now use only SAW for DXB connections to avoid IST zoo. I'm very pleased with SAW connections and obviously looking forward to fly directly from ESB to DXB. Likewise many pax from ESB-SAW flight transited to DXB flight with me.

ankaraflyjet wrote:
TK's international expansion from Ankara took place with LGW and FCO this month. I have done t.both of he flights and very good service and loads not looking so bad to start with at such a low season actually. Ankara Baku was not reinstated by THY as planned though and Ankara Tbilisi was launched instead on January 17th. TK now announced daily service from ESB to BGW from March 31st.

Pegasus also srtaitng Ankara Baku in March initially with 4 weekly then daily from end of the month. Quite a regional expansion taking place, I guess TK dropped Ankara Baku due to Pegasus initiative to do this daily rotation.

Looks like 2019 will be record breaking year for international service expansion from ESB.

It is really pleasing to see this happening but not enough as frequencies need to increase. We already used in the company many European direct flights and most possibly will use Tbilisi flight as well in a few weeks time. Ankara Chamber of Commerce is now pushing for JFK/IAD flights. I believe eventually these will happen too.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:58 pm

ankaraflyjet wrote:
How is the bilateral Air Service Agreement between UAE and Turkey? Is there any available slot for any Turkish and/or UAE carrier to use for ESB DXB?

You have to consider 7 emirates of UAE independently when ASA is concerned, though Dubai Emirate is the dominant figure. As I wrote here before: Once Turkish Trade Consulate to UAE told me during a meeting that UAE offered Turkey to have open skies in exchange for lifting the visa formality for Turkish Citizens to enter UAE. Obviously Turkey refused it.

Current ASA allows the following between Dubai Emirate and Turkey (please correct me if necessary):

Emirates
DXB-IST 14w
DXB-SAW 14w

Fly Dubai
DXB-SAW 7w (perhaps 3w)

Turkish Airlines
IST-DXB 14w
SAW-DXB 14w

Pegasus
SAW-DXB 7w (perhaps 3w)

If Turkey accepts improvement of ASA for flights to ADB, AYT, ESB even ADA and TXB, I’m sure Emirates/Fly Dubai will start flights in a short period of time to all of these cities. Obviously TK is against this and will not approve any additional flight until it is absolutely necessary for them.

I don’t see ESB-DXB flight happening soon unless there is a political decision by the government like QR case, which is very unlikely in current political situation.
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:44 am

Indigo announced daily DEL-IST flights starting March 20th.

https://twitter.com/IndiGo6E/status/1088764668401860609
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1413969
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:03 am

dozerman wrote:
Indigo announced daily DEL-IST flights starting March 20th.

https://twitter.com/IndiGo6E/status/1088764668401860609
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1413969


This is the proposed schedule:

DEL-IST 13.40-18.10
IST-DEL 19.45-04.15

The late afternoon arrival to IST connects nicely onto the Middle East, Balkans and the rest of Europe.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation - January 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:11 am

Blerg wrote:
dozerman wrote:
Indigo announced daily DEL-IST flights starting March 20th.

https://twitter.com/IndiGo6E/status/1088764668401860609
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1413969


This is the proposed schedule:

DEL-IST 13.40-18.10
IST-DEL 19.45-04.15

The late afternoon arrival to IST connects nicely onto the Middle East, Balkans and the rest of Europe.


I would be very surprised if this does not go double or triple daily very soon.

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