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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:00 am

The fleet changes and fleet status posts at the start of this thread have been updated.

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:07 am

KVH68 wrote:
SFOtoORD wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
United N27515, Max 9, flew from New Iberia (ARA) to Seattle (BFI) on March 27


Hmm. Cheap parking or maybe there to test the software patch when it’s ready?


I think Boeing is sending planes to New Iberia for paint. They just flew a SpiceJet, Max 8 to New Iberia.


IIRC, it went in for paint. Saw a couple of others in for full paint, fuselage, wings and horz stab.

777-322ERs

2149 777-322ER 049 66589 N2749U 1634 Nov 2019
2150 777-322ER 050 66590 N2250U 1639 Dec 2019
2151 777-322ER 051 66591 N2251U TBD Jan 2020
2152 777-322ER 052 66592 N2352U TBD Feb 2020

737MAX

7518 737MAX-9 518 64495 N37518 7548 19
7519 737MAX-9 519 43459 N27519 7585 19
7520 737MAX-9 520 64498 N27520 7612 19
7521 737MAX-9 521 64497 N37521 7636 19
7522 737MAX-9 522 64496 N37522 7664 19
7523 737MAX-9 523 43461 N37523 7673 19
7524 737MAX-9 524 64501 N47524 7686 19
7525 737MAX-9 525 64500 N37525 7695 19
7526 737MAX-9 526 64499 N27526 7711 19
7527 737MAX-9 527 43463 N37527 7744 19
7528 737MAX-9 528 64502 TBD 7752 19
7529 737MAX-9 529 64503 TBD 7803 19
7530 737MAX-9 530 43465 TBD 7818 19
7751 737MAX-10 751 66122 TBD 7644 TBD
7752 737MAX-10 752 66123 TBD 7705 TBD
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:08 am

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Now that DEN has been rebanked, how many flights does it see and is UA still planning on getting DEN to 600+ flights eventually?


453 departures on this Monday. I haven’t verified this myself, but I have heard it will be well over 500 in the summer schedule. I have heard around 520.


Putting it within spitting distance of IAH. I wonder if DEN will overtake the former as the second largest UA hub?

But isnt IAH growing too? Its possible that DEN could become the third busiest.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:42 am

AVENSAB727 wrote:
Fargo wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:

453 departures on this Monday. I haven’t verified this myself, but I have heard it will be well over 500 in the summer schedule. I have heard around 520.


Putting it within spitting distance of IAH. I wonder if DEN will overtake the former as the second largest UA hub?

But isnt IAH growing too? Its possible that DEN could become the third busiest.

Isn't DEN already the 3rd busiest? At least by movements, I don't know about seats.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:47 am

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In some cases, actually the fourth. The first batch of 777-200ERs came with the original recliner-style F and J seats before being replaced with the first-generation Suite and newer business class product (commonly referred to as the Barcalounger).

The777Man wrote:
Fourth cabin. Delivery cabin, then First class lie-flat and business bigger recline, then IPTE and now Polaris/Premium Plus. Some newer PW may not have had the first cabin with the lumbar support in F and C. The lie-flat in F was introduced in 1997 I think.

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I did some digging, because why not. It's amazing what you can find on this site.


"Barcalounger"


Middle Cabin

I really miss these J seats (obviously not the middle one). But as someone who rarely sleeps on a flight, and never on daytime flights, or any flight under 8 hours, these were by far the most comfortable seats to recline in. All these lie flat have pros and cons for sleeping, but none of them have as comfortable leg rests and the padded bulsters that make just lounging relaxing.
 
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Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:38 am

I am completely onboard with you. These Barcalounger-like seats were the best for those of us who just can't sleep on planes. Far more comfortable for relaxing and reading or watching vs current brand of lie-flats.

cosyr wrote:
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codc10 wrote:
In some cases, actually the fourth. The first batch of 777-200ERs came with the original recliner-style F and J seats before being replaced with the first-generation Suite and newer business class product (commonly referred to as the Barcalounger).

The777Man wrote:
Fourth cabin. Delivery cabin, then First class lie-flat and business bigger recline, then IPTE and now Polaris/Premium Plus. Some newer PW may not have had the first cabin with the lumbar support in F and C. The lie-flat in F was introduced in 1997 I think.

The777Man

I did some digging, because why not. It's amazing what you can find on this site.


"Barcalounger"


Middle Cabin

I really miss these J seats (obviously not the middle one). But as someone who rarely sleeps on a flight, and never on daytime flights, or any flight under 8 hours, these were by far the most comfortable seats to recline in. All these lie flat have pros and cons for sleeping, but none of them have as comfortable leg rests and the padded bulsters that make just lounging relaxing.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:59 am

There are 4 aircraft showing they are up in Minot Air Force Base, 136, 238, 4007 and 4260. Showing no Status or MX info on these birds. I was stationed at Minot AFB, don't think there are any aviation businesses there.
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Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:05 am

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There are 4 aircraft showing they are up in Minot Air Force Base, 136, 238, 4007 and 4260. Showing no Status or MX info on these birds. I was stationed at Minot AFB, don't think there are any aviation businesses there.


'MIB' is the internal code for Miami Base Maintenance to avoid confusion with the line.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:59 am

73G:
N29717 exited MIA 2733/17Mar in GUM configuration - now flying GUM services

772:
N219UA sked to enter XMN 2757/3Apr for Polaris/PE
N229UA sked to exit XMN 2756/3Apr with Polaris/PE

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:50 am

adamblang wrote:
The777Man

I did some digging, because why not. It's amazing what you can find on this site.

Delivery Cabin

Front Cabin


Middle Cabin


Rear Cabin


"Barcalounger"

Front Cabin


IPTE

Front Cabin


Polaris

Front Cabin
Image Image


Look at the space you had in the original 777 first class section.
Thanks for digging up these pictures I appreciate, its interesting to see how times have changed from 1995 to 2019. In today's world in the premium cabin because most passengers don't want to sit next to someone they don't know or have to climb over another persons legs to reach the aisle. Airlines have reconfigured and now we have Polaris and it is a great product the only downside is Polaris does not feel as roomy as the original first and business class cabin did. I can clearly remember many times sitting in the middle section of first class on the original 777 layout and still being able to look out the window for take off and landing. As the layouts have changed the only people who get to enjoy a window view now are people sitting next to the window.

These pictures make it clear it takes a lot of space to give passengers their own personal space. Makes me wonder what will future business class cabins look like in 20-30 years time.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:56 pm

GroundStop wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
There are 4 aircraft showing they are up in Minot Air Force Base, 136, 238, 4007 and 4260. Showing no Status or MX info on these birds. I was stationed at Minot AFB, don't think there are any aviation businesses there.


'MIB' is the internal code for Miami Base Maintenance to avoid confusion with the line.


Other aircraft are showing MIA along with MX being performed. These 4 noted, and a few others are showing no Status, no BaseMx, no OOS. Just a little off.....

Between Status and OOS, there seems to be some discrepancies. Have to look into it a bit more........

Some of the concept liveries look pretty good.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:30 pm

jayunited wrote:
adamblang wrote:
The777Man

I did some digging, because why not. It's amazing what you can find on this site.

Delivery Cabin

Front Cabin


Middle Cabin


"Barcalounger"

Front Cabin


It's also interesting to note in the background of the original Front cabin photo, you can see they upgraded J seats before introducing the lie flat F cabin.Maybe that was just delays with production of the seats, but I never knew that they mixed generations like that.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:38 pm

I also have a soft spot for that barcalounger C seat as that was my first taste of premium cabins. Sure, the lie flats were already on their way by that point, but there still was nothing better than being in the upper deck of a 747 with a HKG based crew.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:43 pm

GroundStop wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
There are 4 aircraft showing they are up in Minot Air Force Base, 136, 238, 4007 and 4260. Showing no Status or MX info on these birds. I was stationed at Minot AFB, don't think there are any aviation businesses there.


'MIB' is the internal code for Miami Base Maintenance to avoid confusion with the line.


Kinda like what SMB stands for, 1st time that I have seen MIB.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:37 pm

CALTECH wrote:
GroundStop wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
There are 4 aircraft showing they are up in Minot Air Force Base, 136, 238, 4007 and 4260. Showing no Status or MX info on these birds. I was stationed at Minot AFB, don't think there are any aviation businesses there.


'MIB' is the internal code for Miami Base Maintenance to avoid confusion with the line.


Kinda like what SMB stands for, 1st time that I have seen MIB.


What kind of maintenance is UA doing at MIA besides regular line checks? Is this something more recent? I know there's always been a line station there, but is there any heavier work being done?
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:50 pm

codc10 wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
GroundStop wrote:

'MIB' is the internal code for Miami Base Maintenance to avoid confusion with the line.


Kinda like what SMB stands for, 1st time that I have seen MIB.


What kind of maintenance is UA doing at MIA besides regular line checks? Is this something more recent? I know there's always been a line station there, but is there any heavier work being done?

AAR is contracted to do heavy maintenance in MIA...
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:08 pm

It appears the new seat cover program for 752 aircraft is now complete. N67134 finally exited SAT after repeated attempts that must have been mechanical issues. It looks like N19136 will exit MIA with new seat covers and 2 sUA 752 should have seat covers after maint visits.
 
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Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:54 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
It appears the new seat cover program for 752 aircraft is now complete.

Hopefully the gray seats on the Airbuses turn blue now.
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Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:31 pm

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N67134 finally exited SAT after repeated attempts that must have been mechanical issues.

Looks like it flew for an hour and it’s down again with issues. Not uncommon. You get what you pay for.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:25 pm

Slight hiccup has been thrown into the PW 77E Polaris PE installation schedule, tail number N219UA which was scheduled to operate UA895 on 4/1 returned to the gate yesterday, number 1 engine flamed out while on the taxiway resulting in a plane change to N222UA. ORD maintenance is still diagnosing the problem but N219UA may require a engine change and N222UA is not taking N219UA's place at XMN for Polaris and PE installation. As a result and the fact that ORD-HKG-ORD routes is switching from a a PW 77E to a GE 77E tail number N229UA will now ferry position HKG-SFO as UA2761 on 4/4. Right now the current routing for N219UA has not been updated but as soon as I know more I'll update.

Luckily the number 1 engine flamed out while on the taxiway and not the runway or right after takeoff. If it would have happened later it probably would have rattled a few of the passengers nerves.
 
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Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:55 pm

789:
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:31 am

Kirby did a town hall and released a few updates on UA's future aircraft needs and the dilemma UA faces going forward.
Unfortunately I can not post the video from his SFO town hall but according to Kirby the A359's are coming in 2022. Based on what was said in that town hall it seems as if this issue has been put to bed UA will take delivery of the A359s we have on order.
Also starting by the middle of the next decade UA will begin to retire some of our oldest 777s. With the A359s coming those aircraft will start replacing the 777s.
According to Kirby UA could replace some of the 767's with the larger 788 (it is still an option UA is exploring) and some 757 routes could be replace with 737s. However there are about 40 frames a mixture of both 757s and 767s that UA currently has no replacement for and neither the 788 or 737 is a great replacement for these aircraft on these routes. This is where either the A321XLR or Boeings proposed NMA come into play according to Kirby UA is investing in a life extension for the 14 or so 763 that will be reconfigured to high J configuration so those 14 aircraft will be sticking around for some time as will presumably the sCO 757s.

My take away from his comments is UA we might see at some point in the future a 788 and if Boeings NMA doesn't meet UA's needs UA will go with the A321XLR.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:57 am

I don't think this has been posted yet. The SF Chronicle's travel guy did an interview with Scott Kirby:
https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/I ... 729013.php

Some of the biggest takeaways:

Kirby: All long haul ULCCs will go out of business, including Norwegian
50-60% of United passengers buy up from Basic Economy to Standard Economy
SFO is a crown jewel for United – “every route that we add works”
United grew 10% in ASMs in SFO last year
Unsure of timing, but United is “absolutely planning to get back into Oakland” (woo hoo!!!!)
United planning on building a T3-to-T2 connector to use T2 gates, especially when T3-F renovation begins
50 seaters are here to stay, though primarily for smaller markets
Four different wi-fi systems currently in use; United plans on picking the best one and adopting it fleetwide
787-10 will be assigned on SFO-EWR indefinitely
757s will still be around on transcons for a while UA explores putting lie flats in 737 MAX 10s
New livery will not be a radical departure from the current one
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Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:37 am

intotheair wrote:
I don't think this has been posted yet. The SF Chronicle's travel guy did an interview with Scott Kirby:
https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/I ... 729013.php

Some of the biggest takeaways:

Kirby: All long haul ULCCs will go out of business, including Norwegian
50-60% of United passengers buy up from Basic Economy to Standard Economy
SFO is a crown jewel for United – “every route that we add works”
United grew 10% in ASMs in SFO last year
Unsure of timing, but United is “absolutely planning to get back into Oakland” (woo hoo!!!!)
United planning on building a T3-to-T2 connector to use T2 gates, especially when T3-F renovation begins
50 seaters are here to stay, though primarily for smaller markets
Four different wi-fi systems currently in use; United plans on picking the best one and adopting it fleetwide
787-10 will be assigned on SFO-EWR indefinitely
757s will still be around on transcons for a while UA explores putting lie flats in 737 MAX 10s
New livery will not be a radical departure from the current one


Also, he said he'd like to see them back in JFK with 5-6 departures a day. If that happened, it would surely be either SFO or LAX, but not both.
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Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:35 am

IPTE to Polaris 772 Test Hop Cancelled Yesterday N787UA. Has to be close to being ready. 20th unit completed.
 
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Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:17 pm

intotheair wrote:
I don't think this has been posted yet. The SF Chronicle's travel guy did an interview with Scott Kirby:
https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/I ... 729013.php

Some of the biggest takeaways:

Kirby: All long haul ULCCs will go out of business, including Norwegian
50-60% of United passengers buy up from Basic Economy to Standard Economy
SFO is a crown jewel for United – “every route that we add works”
United grew 10% in ASMs in SFO last year
Unsure of timing, but United is “absolutely planning to get back into Oakland” (woo hoo!!!!)
United planning on building a T3-to-T2 connector to use T2 gates, especially when T3-F renovation begins
50 seaters are here to stay, though primarily for smaller markets
Four different wi-fi systems currently in use; United plans on picking the best one and adopting it fleetwide
787-10 will be assigned on SFO-EWR indefinitely
757s will still be around on transcons for a while UA explores putting lie flats in 737 MAX 10s
New livery will not be a radical departure from the current one


Some very interesting information from both your post and my post from his town hall.
Location wise UA's hubs at both SFO and EWR are both a blessing and a curse. Both these hubs have huge premium demand and a lot of O&D traffic but they are both susceptible to weather and/or ATC delays almost daily. In his town hall at SFO Kirby talked about it being one of UA's crown jewels but he went into further details with the SF Chronicle. We've seen UA's success with in recent years with the addition of SIN, TLV (which I think holds the long haul record at UA for a flight going from 3x weekly to daily in less than a year). Then there were flights to PPT, ZRH, MUC, and now AMS. In his interview he seems to suggest that UA is seeing strong sales for future flights to both MEL and DEL which has me wondering if we will see SFO-MEL go daily starting October 31, 2020 the start of IATA winter and what UA will do with SFO-DEL in the future if we are truly seeing strong demand and decent yields on that route.

Another piece that was included in the town hall but not the SF Chronicle article was Kirby stated UA has renegotiated its JV with LH Group and AC to balance out more long haul flying before his arrival UA was okay with funneling passengers to both these carriers with allowed them to grow across the Atlantic while UA shrank. But the new agreement is why UA has been able to add so many new routes across the Atlantic like SFO-ZRH, MUC, AMS, DEN-FRA and other routes from EWR. He also stated UA is in negotiations with the other Star Alliance partners (I'm hoping one of those partners is SQ) but more likely it is our JV partner NH across the Pacific again another carrier that has grown and benefited from the JV with UA but at UA's expense. Last but not least UA is of course our partners in Central and South America. UA is currently involved in JV negotiations with Copa, Avianca and Azule and with the relevant governments to gain governmental approval for a JV. If approved it could open new opportunities to both Central and South America on UA metal as well as our partners. It seems that in the past these JV's have slightly benefited UA, but our partners benefited more and did more of the flying because of UA's weakness and UA's reputation. Both Kirby and Munoz want our partners to know UA is no longer a weak airlines that is shrinking and they along with many of employees are working hard to change how UA is perceived from the customers standpoint not just here in the U.S. but around the world. According to Kirby expect to see UA continue to grow across the Atlantic on our own metal hand in hand with our JV partners. Although Kirby didn't say this I'm saying if renegotiations with NH go well we probably should expect to see more growth across the Pacific to more destinations in Asia on UA metal.

Personally when I look at Sky Team I don't see Delta playing second fiddle to airlines like KLM, Virgin, or Air France. Delta is on equal footing with these airlines and to be honest it seem as if Delta in their JV with Korean Air is not second fiddle to them either they are equals in their partnership. After 23 years with UA believe me I get why UA may have been at a disadvantage negotiating a JV with airlines like the LH Group, NH, AC and other in the Star Alliance may not have wanted to work with UA at all. As tragic and terrible as the Dr Dao situation was it seems to be the catalyst that UA needed to wake everybody up from at UA, from the CEO down to the new hire that UA must do better or we won't survive. Over the past year and a half it looks as if UA has turned the corner, financially and operationally and at the very least we have gain some respect within Star Alliance which has allowed us to go to the negotiating table with our JV partners and come out with agreements that benefit UA and not just the LH Group, AC and hopefully NH. Hopefully we will see UA forge new partnership with other Star members who perhaps in the past didn't want their name or brand associated with UA.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:20 pm

jayunited wrote:
intotheair wrote:
I don't think this has been posted yet. The SF Chronicle's travel guy did an interview with Scott Kirby:
https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/I ... 729013.php

Some of the biggest takeaways:

Kirby: All long haul ULCCs will go out of business, including Norwegian
50-60% of United passengers buy up from Basic Economy to Standard Economy
SFO is a crown jewel for United – “every route that we add works”
United grew 10% in ASMs in SFO last year
Unsure of timing, but United is “absolutely planning to get back into Oakland” (woo hoo!!!!)
United planning on building a T3-to-T2 connector to use T2 gates, especially when T3-F renovation begins
50 seaters are here to stay, though primarily for smaller markets
Four different wi-fi systems currently in use; United plans on picking the best one and adopting it fleetwide
787-10 will be assigned on SFO-EWR indefinitely
757s will still be around on transcons for a while UA explores putting lie flats in 737 MAX 10s
New livery will not be a radical departure from the current one


Some very interesting information from both your post and my post from his town hall.
Location wise UA's hubs at both SFO and EWR are both a blessing and a curse. Both these hubs have huge premium demand and a lot of O&D traffic but they are both susceptible to weather and/or ATC delays almost daily. In his town hall at SFO Kirby talked about it being one of UA's crown jewels but he went into further details with the SF Chronicle. We've seen UA's success with in recent years with the addition of SIN, TLV (which I think holds the long haul record at UA for a flight going from 3x weekly to daily in less than a year). Then there were flights to PPT, ZRH, MUC, and now AMS. In his interview he seems to suggest that UA is seeing strong sales for future flights to both MEL and DEL which has me wondering if we will see SFO-MEL go daily starting October 31, 2020 the start of IATA winter and what UA will do with SFO-DEL in the future if we are truly seeing strong demand and decent yields on that route.

Another piece that was included in the town hall but not the SF Chronicle article was Kirby stated UA has renegotiated its JV with LH Group and AC to balance out more long haul flying before his arrival UA was okay with funneling passengers to both these carriers with allowed them to grow across the Atlantic while UA shrank. But the new agreement is why UA has been able to add so many new routes across the Atlantic like SFO-ZRH, MUC, AMS, DEN-FRA and other routes from EWR. He also stated UA is in negotiations with the other Star Alliance partners (I'm hoping one of those partners is SQ) but more likely it is our JV partner NH across the Pacific again another carrier that has grown and benefited from the JV with UA but at UA's expense. Last but not least UA is of course our partners in Central and South America. UA is currently involved in JV negotiations with Copa, Avianca and Azule and with the relevant governments to gain governmental approval for a JV. If approved it could open new opportunities to both Central and South America on UA metal as well as our partners. It seems that in the past these JV's have slightly benefited UA, but our partners benefited more and did more of the flying because of UA's weakness and UA's reputation. Both Kirby and Munoz want our partners to know UA is no longer a weak airlines that is shrinking and they along with many of employees are working hard to change how UA is perceived from the customers standpoint not just here in the U.S. but around the world. According to Kirby expect to see UA continue to grow across the Atlantic on our own metal hand in hand with our JV partners. Although Kirby didn't say this I'm saying if renegotiations with NH go well we probably should expect to see more growth across the Pacific to more destinations in Asia on UA metal.

Personally when I look at Sky Team I don't see Delta playing second fiddle to airlines like KLM, Virgin, or Air France. Delta is on equal footing with these airlines and to be honest it seem as if Delta in their JV with Korean Air is not second fiddle to them either they are equals in their partnership. After 23 years with UA believe me I get why UA may have been at a disadvantage negotiating a JV with airlines like the LH Group, NH, AC and other in the Star Alliance may not have wanted to work with UA at all. As tragic and terrible as the Dr Dao situation was it seems to be the catalyst that UA needed to wake everybody up from at UA, from the CEO down to the new hire that UA must do better or we won't survive. Over the past year and a half it looks as if UA has turned the corner, financially and operationally and at the very least we have gain some respect within Star Alliance which has allowed us to go to the negotiating table with our JV partners and come out with agreements that benefit UA and not just the LH Group, AC and hopefully NH. Hopefully we will see UA forge new partnership with other Star members who perhaps in the past didn't want their name or brand associated with UA.


This is awesome! Just seeing you mention SQ above, I noticed that for quite some time, I’ve been unable to book SQ reward flights through UA. Could this be a sign of renegotiations? Or perhaps deteriorating relations?
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:35 pm

Quoting a post from another source:
"FYI, time to start tracking the upgrade of wifi on the p.s. 752 fleet. UA is pulling off the ATG4 kit from Gogo and installing the Viasat Ka-band service. I wrote about the news yesterday afternoon: https://paxex.aero/2019/04/uniteds-coas ... i-upgrade/ "

I believe that aircraft is N589UA, which exited MIA 3/21/19. However that and all other ps752 still show gogo on flight amenities from flight status on ual.com. We know amenities can be delayed a while. Any help in identifying this issue is appreciated.

the article states 58 of 70 units are 737s, meaning 12 are 752. this matches as UA has 14 ps units with 2 of those to be removed from service this year.
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:09 pm

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It appears the new seat cover program for 752 aircraft is now complete.

Hopefully the gray seats on the Airbuses turn blue now.


Last week I was on an A320 with the new F seat, new carpets- but the grey economy seats.

The lavatory also had the “pussy-willow” walls inside (grey, silver and maroon) it was very nostalgic!

(I can never say “pussy-willow” without thinking of Kathleen Turner in “Serial Mom”)
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:10 pm

Question: are any of United’s 787-10’s doing international revenue flying yet? Or are they all still doing Transcontinental?
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:04 pm

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Question: are any of United’s 787-10’s doing international revenue flying yet? Or are they all still doing Transcontinental?


TLV and FRA are running daily BCN and CDG start on the 29th.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:53 pm

78X:
N16008 sked to exit Induction on first revenue flight 505/5Apr IAD-DEN
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:05 am

I see N771UA has been in Rockford IL for the past week but no mention of what its in for on the site. Any idea what UA does there? New livery being painted?
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Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:15 am

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I see N771UA has been in Rockford IL for the past week but no mention of what its in for on the site. Any idea what UA does there? New livery being painted?


They rented a hangar in Rockford to do maintenance. They are out of hangar space at their maintenance bases. They are sending mechanics from ORD, IAH, and SFO to perform ADSB mod and structural inspection. There will be four 777s going to Rockford but only one at a time.
 
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Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:20 am

KVH68 wrote:
cruiseshipcrew wrote:
I see N771UA has been in Rockford IL for the past week but no mention of what its in for on the site. Any idea what UA does there? New livery being painted?


They rented a hangar in Rockford to do maintenance. They are out of hangar space at their maintenance bases. They are sending mechanics from ORD, IAH, and SFO to perform ADSB mod and structural inspection. There will be four 777s going to Rockford but only one at a time.


Thanks for the quick information!
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Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:20 am

Here is a short YouTube video about our all female aircraft maintenance competition team called "Chix Fix"
https://youtu.be/Fa9nBTusVBU
 
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Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:14 am

KVH68 wrote:
cruiseshipcrew wrote:
I see N771UA has been in Rockford IL for the past week but no mention of what its in for on the site. Any idea what UA does there? New livery being painted?


They rented a hangar in Rockford to do maintenance. They are out of hangar space at their maintenance bases. They are sending mechanics from ORD, IAH, and SFO to perform ADSB mod and structural inspection. There will be four 777s going to Rockford but only one at a time.


What’s the ADSB mod?
 
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Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:04 am

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Question: are any of United’s 787-10’s doing international revenue flying yet? Or are they all still doing Transcontinental?



They have started international revenue flying.
Yesterday:
UA84 EWR-TLV
UA960 EWR-FRA
 
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VC10er wrote:
Question: are any of United’s 787-10’s doing international revenue flying yet? Or are they all still doing Transcontinental?



They have started international revenue flying.
Yesterday:
UA84 EWR-TLV
UA960 EWR-FRA


I think those are good starts for UA w the 78X - United has a wonderful reputation in Israel: that is not scientific, just all my Israeli friends tell me.

As UA needs to come as close to LH as possible, I’m sure that sometime in the not so distant future Germans won’t feel so bummed when flying business (Polaris) on UA metal. I read Kirby’s Town Hall report post above. He’s right to say that they (UA) needs to focus on their international reputation as much as domestic.

I’m 20 minutes away from my first 787-10 flight to SFO! So excited!
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:28 am

GmoneyCO wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
cruiseshipcrew wrote:
I see N771UA has been in Rockford IL for the past week but no mention of what its in for on the site. Any idea what UA does there? New livery being painted?


They rented a hangar in Rockford to do maintenance. They are out of hangar space at their maintenance bases. They are sending mechanics from ORD, IAH, and SFO to perform ADSB mod and structural inspection. There will be four 777s going to Rockford but only one at a time.


What’s the ADSB mod?


Automatic dependent surveillance—broadcast (ADS–B) is a surveillance technology in which an aircraft determines its position via satellite navigation and periodically broadcasts it, enabling it to be tracked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic ... _broadcast
 
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:39 am

VC10er wrote:
ScorpioMC3 wrote:
VC10er wrote:
Question: are any of United’s 787-10’s doing international revenue flying yet? Or are they all still doing Transcontinental?



They have started international revenue flying.
Yesterday:
UA84 EWR-TLV
UA960 EWR-FRA


I think those are good starts for UA w the 78X - United has a wonderful reputation in Israel: that is not scientific, just all my Israeli friends tell me.



I am sure that is true. But it could be dicey if we ponder the reasons why? Lol
 
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:45 am

KVH68 wrote:
GmoneyCO wrote:
KVH68 wrote:

They rented a hangar in Rockford to do maintenance. They are out of hangar space at their maintenance bases. They are sending mechanics from ORD, IAH, and SFO to perform ADSB mod and structural inspection. There will be four 777s going to Rockford but only one at a time.


What’s the ADSB mod?


Automatic dependent surveillance—broadcast (ADS–B) is a surveillance technology in which an aircraft determines its position via satellite navigation and periodically broadcasts it, enabling it to be tracked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic ... _broadcast

All aircraft in the US are required to be ADS-B Out capable on January 1, 2020. The only exceptions are for aircraft operating in uncontrolled airspace, or for balloons and gliders.

To be honest, that date will likely slip due to the government shutdown, but air carriers are still expected to adhere to that implementation date. ADS-B will function alongside traditional radar surveillance, and will allow for 60 updates per minute/one per second. Currently, long range radar updates five times per minute/every 12 seconds. Obviously that's a significant improvement, and is a key component of NextGen. There are a number of cockpit surveillance enhancements with ADS-B as well.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:28 pm

77E:
N787UA scheduled to exit XMN with Polaris/PE 2744/10Apr (20th PW 772ER completed)
N784UA looks to be next to go for mod after Flight UA895 on 8Apr
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:50 am

VC10er wrote:
ScorpioMC3 wrote:
VC10er wrote:
Question: are any of United’s 787-10’s doing international revenue flying yet? Or are they all still doing Transcontinental?



They have started international revenue flying.
Yesterday:
UA84 EWR-TLV
UA960 EWR-FRA


I think those are good starts for UA w the 78X - United has a wonderful reputation in Israel: that is not scientific, just all my Israeli friends tell me.

As UA needs to come as close to LH as possible, I’m sure that sometime in the not so distant future Germans won’t feel so bummed when flying business (Polaris) on UA metal. I read Kirby’s Town Hall report post above. He’s right to say that they (UA) needs to focus on their international reputation as much as domestic.

I’m 20 minutes away from my first 787-10 flight to SFO! So excited!


But more importantly how was your 787-10 flight?
 
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Actually, it was as close to perfect as a flight can be. I’m GS, so I checked in at the EWR GS check in lounge. Which is really beautiful. The woman who checked me in was lovely. Then the elevator down to security where someone is waiting to escort you to the front of the TSA Pre Check line- which is great because you feel far less like a jerk for cutting in line.
I board. I’m in 3L, foreword facing. (So, now I’ve been in a true Politics seat on 3 different aircraft, 77W, 767 and now 787. I thought for sure I’d miss the sculpted bulkhead, but actually (maybe) the silver silk-like wallpaper is classier? Although I really did love how proudly United Polaris was displayed with back lights, and up lights, the silver tiles with the raised arch that recalled the globe. It did really BRAND the cabin and made Polaris truly stand out as unique.
The 787-10 is actually HUGE inside even if it’s not that much longer than a 789. From the front galley, you cannot even see the back of the plane- even when the aisle was unobstructed!
I never noticed it on the 789, but the front galley has an awesome ceiling. The blue cove lighting curves around in a perfect half circle, almost like a futuristic cupola/dome.
She’s gorgeous.
I was right in front of an engine, but she barely made a sound as we slid into the air.
My FA was a really nice young man, perfectly attentive. Breakfast was decent and hearty.
The new IFC interface was beautifully designed, lots of great features- but no Ch 9 :-(
I slept like Rip Vanwinkle.
The small amenity kit was fine, but why UA puts old fashioned eyeshades inside and not the new Polaris style one baffles me. How much could the cost difference be?
It was the first time I saw PE (call me strange) but I thought it looked great. So nice NOT to have EVERYTHING in blue and silver!
We arrived 15 minutes early.
I absolutely loved it, and the UA crew gets 5 Stars!

HEY: UNITED, the public lavatories in TC are OLD, DISGUSTING AND STINK. So are the rest rooms in the UC. RENOVATE THEM and install a good HVAC system!
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:36 am

738:
N37267 entered AMA paint 2751/8Apr, potential new paint job

39M: N37516 ferried BFI-VCV 4/8/19, storage or paint?

763:
N644UA sked to exit MIA maint 2757/9Apr

772:
N784UA sked to enter XMN 2744/10Apr for Polaris/PE

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N2747U exited SFO 1175/8Apr with PE, completing PE program for 77Ws
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:31 pm

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763:
N644UA sked to exit MIA maint 2757/9Apr

N644UA didn’t make it out today. Had a door slide indication on departure and returned to MIA. Hoping to get out tomorrow as UA2733 to EWR.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:34 am

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calpsafltskeds wrote:
763:
N644UA sked to exit MIA maint 2757/9Apr

N644UA didn’t make it out today. Had a door slide indication on departure and returned to MIA. Hoping to get out tomorrow as UA2733 to EWR.

Spoke too soon. UA2733 is canceled. N644UA is now scheduled to depart as UA2737 later on in the day tomorrow.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:19 am

If UA goes with the A321XLR as recently mentioned as a 757/767 candidate, would the A321XLR be considered the same as the standard A321 AA got a great deal on and would Airbus owe AA compensation if UA got just as good of a deal? Or is the XLR classified differently in airbus mind that they wouldn't owe AA anything and could still offer UA a good deal. I know they couldn't sell the standard A321 to UA at the AA price and that's part of the reason why UA hasn't considered buying the A321. Could this report they might be interested in the A321xlr be just a ploy to get Boeing to commit to the 797?

I'm also assuming the a321xlr is probably going to be more expensive than a standard A321 and that Airbus wouldn't sell it anywhere near as cheap as the standard A321 so UA couldn't get even close to the same pricing, not to mention they'd only need 30-40 frames according to Kirby.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... nt-457311/

This makes me think this is just a push by UA to get Boeing to launch the 797.

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