PacoMartin wrote:United1 wrote:Also number of departures isn't really a useful metric...seats available or passengers carried would be more accurate.
350 takeoffs in DEC 2018 from PHL on United mainline
130 ORD 678 miles 163 average number of seats per takeoff
74 IAH 1,325 137
84 DEN 1,558 155
62 SFO 2,521 149
255 takeoffs in DEC 2018 from PIT on United mainline
31 IAD 182 miles 149 average number of seats per takeoff (has become a UAX route since December)
15 EWR 319 miles 142
74 ORD 413 miles 143
30 IAH 1,117 145
61 DEN 1,290 150
44 SFO 2,254 134
= seats & passengers for the month of December 2018
ORD 21,136 16,832
IAH 10,109 8,378
DEN 13,006 10,938
SFO 9,230 6,754
IAD 4,628 2,700
EWR 2,132 1,293
ORD 10,606 7,764
IAH 4,338 2,892
DEN 9,167 8,375
SFO 5,896 4,973
United is in fierce competition at PHL
A four-way competition against American, Southwest, Frontier for PHL to Denver.
A three-way competition from PHL to Houston–Intercontinental against American and Frontier.
A three-way competition from PHL to San Francisco against American and Alaska
A two-way competition from PHL to ORD with American.
Of course Southwest is flying into Houston Hobby an Chicago Midway from Philadelphia.United1 wrote:There is no point having this debate unless you are willing to provide statistics that look at the entire network not just mainline. UA+UAX and in this case UAs and Amtrak's agreement to feed passengers between PHL-EWR would be a start.
No easy way to do that as BTS data is organized by airlines. Some regional airlines fly for more than one mainline airline.
flights - airline - number of seats | number of passengers for all of PA in December 2018
10,339 American Airlines Inc. 1,659,505 1,271,016
3,340 Southwest Airlines Co. 513,428 414,182
6,817 Piedmont Airlines 340,850 249,663
1,966 Delta Air Lines Inc. 289,334 219,138
3,769 Republic Airline 283,978 196,701
3,218 PSA Airlines Inc. 204,559 141,543
1,083 Spirit Air Lines 183,057 155,200
1,220 United Air Lines Inc. 182,175 140,971
869 Frontier Airlines Inc. 173,150 149,774
1,481 Endeavor Air Inc. 102,084 72,128
788 JetBlue Airways 87,600 65,419
1,159 SkyWest Airlines Inc. 66,894 49,693
341 Allegiant Air 57,726 49,838
903 Envoy Air 49,206 36,400
242 Alaska Airlines Inc. 39,467 32,814
741 Air Wisconsin Airlines Corp 37,050 29,753
456 Mesa Airlines Inc. 32,910 26,398
121 GoJet Airlines LLC d/b/a United Express 8,470 6,576
I am not sure how much information you need. PHL is a major airport completely dominated by American Airlines who flies a competing route to every single one of the four United destinations. In addition, there is more competition from other airlines, some of which are LCCs. American has flights to multiple European and Carribean destinations, so very few passengers will want to fly to Chicago or Washington DC just to fly to the same European destinations.
I don't think that UA is going to cut its routes from PHL anytime soon. Most of the traffic leaks to DC and especially NYC in terms of international traffic. Also, you are not taking into account the connection aspect of the routes. The current routes give good connections to Asia and the rest of the US which is what UA is probably focused on with the current routes, not necessarily point to point. Also, mentioned previously, the traffic is probably focused inbound to PHL. The metro area of Philadelphia is 8th largest(2018 estimate) so cutting PHL would be foolish. I think if you want a good argument, you need to present a broad picture, not a narrow picture with only one point of view.