United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

jagraham · Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:11 pm

jayunited wrote:
FSDan wrote:

At IAH, there will be IAH-EWR, IAH-SCL, IAH-GIG, and IAH-LHR flights on the 764.

IAH-LHR is down gauged for around 4 weeks (January) but quickly returns to a 77E in Feburary.

We have to keep in mind this upcoming IATA winter UA will have a lot of frames out of service for Polaris/PE. Looking at the schedule at one point there will be a total of 5 77Es at either HKG (GE) or XMN (PW) for Polaris/PE installation. But the good news is except for the 4 PW frames that will be converted to HD the last PW 77E will enter XMN this December and the last GE 77E will enter HKG in May 2020. I'm trying to get information as to when UA intends to pull the 4 PW 77Es from international routes I would hope these aircraft would be pulled from international service once the final GE 77E enters HKG for Polaris. For now I have not seen any schedule dictating when those 4 aircraft will be converted into HD layout.

The 788 should also be done by May 2020, the last 763 should be exiting HKG by August 2020, and the first 764 is scheduled to enter HKG in August 2020.

Looking at the schedule most of the IAH flights that are being upguaged to764s for the winter 2019/2020 season are once again being downguaged to a 763 in spring of 2020. By spring 2020 there will only be a hand full of 763 remaining with diamond seats and by April 2020 if the schedule holds the second to last GE 77E will already be at HKG having Polaris/PE installed meaning there will only be 1 GE 77E frame flying around with diamond seats. The 764s will be making their way back to EWR and IAD to support UA's increased TATL summer and season travel season which means there is a very good chance 80% of IAH's international flights will be on Polaris equipped aircraft. (Noticed I said Polaris because the oldest 763s do not have PE seats I think some those 763s will be used on IAH-South America routes during the spring summer 2020 season.)

Regarding the HD 77Es, will they be Polaris or will they have the 2-4-2 front back seats up front?

Okcflyer · Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:21 pm

jagraham wrote:
jayunited wrote:
FSDan wrote:

At IAH, there will be IAH-EWR, IAH-SCL, IAH-GIG, and IAH-LHR flights on the 764.

IAH-LHR is down gauged for around 4 weeks (January) but quickly returns to a 77E in Feburary.

We have to keep in mind this upcoming IATA winter UA will have a lot of frames out of service for Polaris/PE. Looking at the schedule at one point there will be a total of 5 77Es at either HKG (GE) or XMN (PW) for Polaris/PE installation. But the good news is except for the 4 PW frames that will be converted to HD the last PW 77E will enter XMN this December and the last GE 77E will enter HKG in May 2020. I'm trying to get information as to when UA intends to pull the 4 PW 77Es from international routes I would hope these aircraft would be pulled from international service once the final GE 77E enters HKG for Polaris. For now I have not seen any schedule dictating when those 4 aircraft will be converted into HD layout.

The 788 should also be done by May 2020, the last 763 should be exiting HKG by August 2020, and the first 764 is scheduled to enter HKG in August 2020.

Looking at the schedule most of the IAH flights that are being upguaged to764s for the winter 2019/2020 season are once again being downguaged to a 763 in spring of 2020. By spring 2020 there will only be a hand full of 763 remaining with diamond seats and by April 2020 if the schedule holds the second to last GE 77E will already be at HKG having Polaris/PE installed meaning there will only be 1 GE 77E frame flying around with diamond seats. The 764s will be making their way back to EWR and IAD to support UA's increased TATL summer and season travel season which means there is a very good chance 80% of IAH's international flights will be on Polaris equipped aircraft. (Noticed I said Polaris because the oldest 763s do not have PE seats I think some those 763s will be used on IAH-South America routes during the spring summer 2020 season.)

Regarding the HD 77Es, will they be Polaris or will they have the 2-4-2 front back seats up front?

I wager they’ll get Diamond seats taken from the GE 77E retrofits with the new covers / color combination being used on the redone 757 (75S).

avi8 · Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:35 pm

When are the 757’s supposed to be finished? I’ve heard a lot of criticism about their current interior and am glad that they will be undergoing refurbishment.

KLMatSJC · Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:14 pm

cosyr wrote:
Now that several gates have opened on B, who has moved in, other than WN? Is it AA's plan to completely move there eventually? What about AS? AS is split right now, between A and T2, correct?

JetBlue is currently the only airline in B with WN. AA will move in early next year when the South end of the concourse has been completed and that will be their new home. AS is mainly in T2, both on the old VX side as well as a couple of the common-use gates that are traditionally AA. They also use the three common-use gates on C along with DL and AA. I believe AS only uses A for Mexico arrivals now. Frontier, Sun Country, and Hawaiian still use A, but I believe the future plan is to get them into B once it is complete.

Pinto · Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:22 pm

jagraham wrote:
jayunited wrote:
FSDan wrote:

Regarding the HD 77Es, will they be Polaris or will they have the 2-4-2 front back seats up front?

They will get the ITPE 2-4-2 as to keep commonality

SFOtoORD · Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:14 pm

KLMatSJC wrote:
intotheair wrote:
SFOtoORD wrote:
T2 to T3 connector was on page 8 of the 2016 plan:

http://media.flysfo.com/media/sfo/Desig ... -07-16.pdf

I believe UA will seek T2 gates when the other terminals are done.

Yes, I knew that both were somewhat serious plans, though I don't believe any work on the T2-T3 connector has started yet. To be honest, I've never even been in T2 – I'm so used to my usual routine of getting off BART, walking to the G security, and then going to my gate in T3 or G.

It has either already started or about to start. I have heard that UA will take some (or all) of AA's D gates as well.

Most recent update I could find from March. Seems like it’s deep in planning at a minimum.

https://sfgov.org/arts/sites/default/fi ... 3C_ALL.pdf

UAinAUS · Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:28 pm

UAX Update:

CR5 progress:

Revenue service with GoJet expected to begin 27Oct for this fleet.
N504GJ: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry
N536GJ: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry, 154
N538GJ: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry, 162
N539GJ: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry, 157
N540GJ: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry, 161
N541GJ: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry, 159
N543GJ: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry, 164
N545GJ: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry, 163
N167GJ: in new livery, not yet converted
N168GJ: at AMA for paint, not yet converted
N172GJ: at STL awaiting paint and mod
N169GJ: at STL awaiting paint and mod
N600QX: 2001 build, at JAX for maintenance, already converted, to become N501GJ
N611QX: 2002 build, at AMA for paint, already converted, to become N506GJ

adamblang · Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:12 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
CRJ-550 flights look to be loaded. STL-ORD looks like it has 2 a day.

Here's what I see in the cities they'd been announced for:

City pair – CRJ-550 frequencies / total frequencies
ORD-ABE – 2/2
ORD-CID – 3/6
ORD-CMH – 2/6
ORD-CVG – 3/6
ORD-DSM – 4/6
ORD-GRR – 4/7
ORD-GSO – 2/3
ORD-IND – 2/9
ORD-MDT – 3/3
ORD-MSN – 5/7
ORD-OKC – 1/3
ORD-RIC – 2/4
ORD-STL – 3/8
ORD-TUL – 3/4
ORD-XNA – 5/5

VC10er · Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:33 pm

Help! I’m sorry but I seem to have missed a post or announcement regarding the refurbishment of the 752? What does 75S mean?

Any enlightenment would be awesome! Thanks so much in advance!

CONTACREW · Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:37 pm

VC10er wrote:
Help! I’m sorry but I seem to have missed a post or announcement regarding the refurbishment of the 752? What does 75S mean?

Any enlightenment would be awesome! Thanks so much in advance!

New internal fleet code for the 75B aircraft that are getting refurbished.

snuggs28 · Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:07 pm

N77066 764 going to VCV tonight for Paint. Flight 2756-13

VC10er · Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:38 pm

CONTACREW wrote:
VC10er wrote:
Help! I’m sorry but I seem to have missed a post or announcement regarding the refurbishment of the 752? What does 75S mean?

Any enlightenment would be awesome! Thanks so much in advance!

New internal fleet code for the 75B aircraft that are getting refurbished.

Thanks! Has there been discussion on how they are being refurbished? It’s something that I felt passionate about because not that long ago I paid for a Polaris ticket, I saw it was a 752, but i thought “fine” I had flown her across the pond many times, and it was fine. And I’m asleep anyway. BUT, after having done many true Polaris flights now, this time the 752 (worse than a Diamond seat 764) the 752 felt really shabby with foam strips sticking out from around the galley, my TV had a big scratch across the screen, one mismatched wall panel on almost all of the 752s, and the shell of the seat in front of me was touched up with paint that didn’t quite match. (Looked like blue/grey nail polish) She was clean, but I figured given the 737MAX issue, no sign of a Boeing solution, that UA needed to (unfortunately) pour some money into fixing her up as I figured the 752s will be around longer than perhaps expected.

Thanks a lot! I will keep my eyes n ears open for what’s to come.

CONTACREW · Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:02 pm

VC10er wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:
VC10er wrote:
Help! I’m sorry but I seem to have missed a post or announcement regarding the refurbishment of the 752? What does 75S mean?

Any enlightenment would be awesome! Thanks so much in advance!

New internal fleet code for the 75B aircraft that are getting refurbished.

Thanks! Has there been discussion on how they are being refurbished? It’s something that I felt passionate about because not that long ago I paid for a Polaris ticket, I saw it was a 752, but i thought “fine” I had flown her across the pond many times, and it was fine. And I’m asleep anyway. BUT, after having done many true Polaris flights now, this time the 752 (worse than a Diamond seat 764) the 752 felt really shabby with foam strips sticking out from around the galley, my TV had a big scratch across the screen, one mismatched wall panel on almost all of the 752s, and the shell of the seat in front of me was touched up with paint that didn’t quite match. (Looked like blue/grey nail polish) She was clean, but I figured given the 737MAX issue, no sign of a Boeing solution, that UA needed to (unfortunately) pour some money into fixing her up as I figured the 752s will be around longer than perhaps expected.

Thanks a lot! I will keep my eyes n ears open for what’s to come.

“Cabin:
➢ Existing Diamond seats in Polaris cabin refreshed with new dress covers, new “unibrow” video bezels and new monitors.
➢ New Collins Meridian seats in Economy and Economy Plus with leather dress covers.
➢ New carpet and curtains throughout.
➢ In-seat power (ISP) throughout the cabin with aft facing outlets in Economy."

"Lavatories:
➢ Interior and exterior of lavatories refreshed with new United décor featuring:
➢ New one-piece floor pan.
➢ New sink deck and backsplash.
➢ Interior LED lighting."

"Galleys:
➢ All galleys are refreshed with new United décor.
➢ New galley area flooring.
➢ United branding panel and Polaris brand plaque installed on G1B Galley."

"IFE
➢ New Panasonic Crew Terminal for IFE and GCS (Wi-Fi) near Door 1L is equipped with load ports and IFE/GCS switches.
➢ IFE ▪ IFE system upgraded from Panasonic eFx to eX1 system ▪ Updated passenger seatback interactive (Interactive 3.0) ▪

******* Flight Deck Audio feature added (Channel 9) ********
>>>>>>>>>> ➢ GCS ▪ Gate-to-Gate Phase 3 added ▪ Backlit GCS Broadband Comm switch and Observer Audio Entertainment (Channel 9) switch added to P5 panel" <<<<<<<<<<<<<

"Door 2R:
➢ Closet removed and replaced with new windscreen equipped with Economy Plus brand plaque and safety video monitor."

"Flight Attendant Seats
➢ New cushions and covers.
➢ New bumpers and rubstrips.
➢ New, longer restraints to match new décor."

itripreport · Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:42 pm

Has there been any photos of 757 retrofits?

VC10er · Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:08 am

Ok! That list seems great!

New “unibrow” ? For the crew? Lol

Thanks! It’s a GREAT thing that they are doing this. Last will be the High Density 772’s with the ancient ITPE seats. They will really stick out once Polaris/PE is 100% done and these new 752 interiors done. (Oh and the awful 737-800s)

Question: the Collins Meridian seat, is that the same seat as on new ac? Or a totally new seat for United?

Recently I saw a design for a new Economy seat where the middle seat is pushed back roughly 4 inches, basically solved the pressing shoulders between strangers issue!

LGeneReese · Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:09 am

CONTACREW wrote:
VC10er wrote:
Help! I’m sorry but I seem to have missed a post or announcement regarding the refurbishment of the 752? What does 75S mean?

Any enlightenment would be awesome! Thanks so much in advance!

New internal fleet code for the 75B aircraft that are getting refurbished.

Would’ve been nice if the two “Her Art” had been refurbished first before the new paint... :duck:

adamblang · Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:51 am

VC10er wrote:
Question: the Collins Meridian seat, is that the same seat as on new ac?

New to the 757-200. I believe it's the same economy seat currently in use on the 787-10 and the 737-9 MAX. It's also the seat in use in JetBlue's new cabins.

jayunited · Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:00 am

Great day out in San Francisco, perfect weather and UA didn't disappoint the crowd for Fleet Week. Below is video from United's official Facebook page it's better than any home video I took with my iPhone.

https://www.facebook.com/United/videos/433109710521145/

CALTECH · Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:02 am

KVH68 wrote:
avi8 wrote:
Isn’t the TPA hangar supposed to alleviate some of the hangar congestion at the hubs?

I don't think TPA will perform any C-checks or D-checks. Currently there are 35 aircraft of all fleet types undergoing C-checks and D-checks by outside vendors.

Check again. Right now Tampa has a new hangar and there are 2 737s in for D2 Checks, one is 49 days and he other is a 50 day span.

codc10 · Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:20 am

CALTECH wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
avi8 wrote:
Isn’t the TPA hangar supposed to alleviate some of the hangar congestion at the hubs?

I don't think TPA will perform any C-checks or D-checks. Currently there are 35 aircraft of all fleet types undergoing C-checks and D-checks by outside vendors.

Check again. Right now Tampa has a new hangar and there are 2 737s in for D2 Checks, one is 49 days and he other is a 50 day span.

In Tampa? I thought the UA hangar isn’t even built yet... Is PEMCO doing heavy 737 checks for UA?

unitedewr737 · Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:59 am

CONTACREW wrote:
VC10er wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:

New internal fleet code for the 75B aircraft that are getting refurbished.

Thanks! Has there been discussion on how they are being refurbished? It’s something that I felt passionate about because not that long ago I paid for a Polaris ticket, I saw it was a 752, but i thought “fine” I had flown her across the pond many times, and it was fine. And I’m asleep anyway. BUT, after having done many true Polaris flights now, this time the 752 (worse than a Diamond seat 764) the 752 felt really shabby with foam strips sticking out from around the galley, my TV had a big scratch across the screen, one mismatched wall panel on almost all of the 752s, and the shell of the seat in front of me was touched up with paint that didn’t quite match. (Looked like blue/grey nail polish) She was clean, but I figured given the 737MAX issue, no sign of a Boeing solution, that UA needed to (unfortunately) pour some money into fixing her up as I figured the 752s will be around longer than perhaps expected.

Thanks a lot! I will keep my eyes n ears open for what’s to come.

“Cabin:
➢ Existing Diamond seats in Polaris cabin refreshed with new dress covers, new “unibrow” video bezels and new monitors.
➢ New Collins Meridian seats in Economy and Economy Plus with leather dress covers.
➢ New carpet and curtains throughout.
➢ In-seat power (ISP) throughout the cabin with aft facing outlets in Economy."

"Lavatories:
➢ Interior and exterior of lavatories refreshed with new United décor featuring:
➢ New one-piece floor pan.
➢ New sink deck and backsplash.
➢ Interior LED lighting."

"Galleys:
➢ All galleys are refreshed with new United décor.
➢ New galley area flooring.
➢ United branding panel and Polaris brand plaque installed on G1B Galley."

"IFE
➢ New Panasonic Crew Terminal for IFE and GCS (Wi-Fi) near Door 1L is equipped with load ports and IFE/GCS switches.
➢ IFE ▪ IFE system upgraded from Panasonic eFx to eX1 system ▪ Updated passenger seatback interactive (Interactive 3.0) ▪

******* Flight Deck Audio feature added (Channel 9) ********
>>>>>>>>>> ➢ GCS ▪ Gate-to-Gate Phase 3 added ▪ Backlit GCS Broadband Comm switch and Observer Audio Entertainment (Channel 9) switch added to P5 panel" <<<<<<<<<<<<<

"Door 2R:
➢ Closet removed and replaced with new windscreen equipped with Economy Plus brand plaque and safety video monitor."

"Flight Attendant Seats
➢ New cushions and covers.
➢ New bumpers and rubstrips.
➢ New, longer restraints to match new décor."

I wonder if Econ plus will have purple head covers like on the CRJ 550. Maybe the best “economy” version on a plane gets purple or something, idk just an idea

unitedewr737 · Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:01 am

adamblang wrote:
VC10er wrote:
Question: the Collins Meridian seat, is that the same seat as on new ac?

New to the 757-200. I believe it's the same economy seat currently in use on the 787-10 and the 737-9 MAX. It's also the seat in use in JetBlue's new cabins.

Yeah it’s the same as on JetBlue phase 2, new southwest, American and United 737max. The 787-10 and 777-200 retrofits have the aspire economy seats.

calpsafltskeds · Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:11 am

738:
N33209 entered TPA 2751/21Aug (with 739 N75433 2 aircraft in TPA for D2 checks)

763:
N656UA exited PVG maint. 2688/14Oct

atcsundevil · Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:24 pm

The fleet updates, fleet status, and repaint status posts at the start of this thread have been updated.

✈️ atcsundevil

CALTECH · Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:55 pm

codc10 wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
KVH68 wrote:

I don't think TPA will perform any C-checks or D-checks. Currently there are 35 aircraft of all fleet types undergoing C-checks and D-checks by outside vendors.

Check again. Right now Tampa has a new hangar and there are 2 737s in for D2 Checks, one is 49 days and he other is a 50 day span.

In Tampa? I thought the UA hangar isn’t even built yet... Is PEMCO doing heavy 737 checks for UA?

Got it wrong, outside vendor. My mistake. The United Hangar is not even built yet. Sounds like only A & B Checks will be done in that hangar. Sounds like ABX took over from PEMCO.

snuggs28 · Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:37 pm

snuggs28 wrote:
N77066 764 going to VCV tonight for Paint. Flight 2756-13

Apparently only in for Rudder Paint. Due out on the 16th.

LGeneReese · Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:06 am

snuggs28 wrote:
snuggs28 wrote:
N77066 764 going to VCV tonight for Paint. Flight 2756-13

Apparently only in for Rudder Paint. Due out on the 16th.

Bummer...

However... N423UA IAHAMA UA2734/14OCT
N449UA AMAIAH UA2724/14OCT

calpsafltskeds · Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:08 am

320:
N423UA entered AMA paint 2734/14Oct
N449UA sked to exit AMA paint 2724/14Oct in Globe Evolution livery

CALTECH · Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:05 pm

CALTECH · Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:06 pm

CALTECH · Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:06 pm

calpsafltskeds · Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:59 pm

Well, this is interesting, using a maint ferry flight number and no departure sked yet:
789:
N35953 entered MCO 2725/14Oct, don't recall a 787 in MCO for maint before

LGeneReese · Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:09 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Well, this is interesting, using a maint ferry flight number and no departure sked yet:
789:
N35953 entered MCO 2725/14Oct, don't recall a 787 in MCO for maint before

This is the plane that sat in BGR for a few days... I don’t think it’s a Coincidence..

CALTECH · Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:14 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Well, this is interesting, using a maint ferry flight number and no departure sked yet:
789:
N35953 entered MCO 2725/14Oct, don't recall a 787 in MCO for maint before

In for Passenger O2 Bottle replacements , stemming from the loss of both packs at 39K ft last week. A lot of the work was accomplished at EWR.

LGeneReese · Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:32 pm

CALTECH wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
Well, this is interesting, using a maint ferry flight number and no departure sked yet:
789:
N35953 entered MCO 2725/14Oct, don't recall a 787 in MCO for maint before

In for Passenger O2 Bottle replacements , stemming from the loss of both packs at 39K ft last week. A lot of the work was accomplished at EWR.

Has it been determined what caused this double failure?

VC10er · Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:40 pm

unitedewr737 wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:
VC10er wrote:

Thanks! Has there been discussion on how they are being refurbished? It’s something that I felt passionate about because not that long ago I paid for a Polaris ticket, I saw it was a 752, but i thought “fine” I had flown her across the pond many times, and it was fine. And I’m asleep anyway. BUT, after having done many true Polaris flights now, this time the 752 (worse than a Diamond seat 764) the 752 felt really shabby with foam strips sticking out from around the galley, my TV had a big scratch across the screen, one mismatched wall panel on almost all of the 752s, and the shell of the seat in front of me was touched up with paint that didn’t quite match. (Looked like blue/grey nail polish) She was clean, but I figured given the 737MAX issue, no sign of a Boeing solution, that UA needed to (unfortunately) pour some money into fixing her up as I figured the 752s will be around longer than perhaps expected.

Thanks a lot! I will keep my eyes n ears open for what’s to come.

“Cabin:
➢ Existing Diamond seats in Polaris cabin refreshed with new dress covers, new “unibrow” video bezels and new monitors.
➢ New Collins Meridian seats in Economy and Economy Plus with leather dress covers.
➢ New carpet and curtains throughout.
➢ In-seat power (ISP) throughout the cabin with aft facing outlets in Economy."

"Lavatories:
➢ Interior and exterior of lavatories refreshed with new United décor featuring:
➢ New one-piece floor pan.
➢ New sink deck and backsplash.
➢ Interior LED lighting."

"Galleys:
➢ All galleys are refreshed with new United décor.
➢ New galley area flooring.
➢ United branding panel and Polaris brand plaque installed on G1B Galley."

"IFE
➢ New Panasonic Crew Terminal for IFE and GCS (Wi-Fi) near Door 1L is equipped with load ports and IFE/GCS switches.
➢ IFE ▪ IFE system upgraded from Panasonic eFx to eX1 system ▪ Updated passenger seatback interactive (Interactive 3.0) ▪

******* Flight Deck Audio feature added (Channel 9) ********
>>>>>>>>>> ➢ GCS ▪ Gate-to-Gate Phase 3 added ▪ Backlit GCS Broadband Comm switch and Observer Audio Entertainment (Channel 9) switch added to P5 panel" <<<<<<<<<<<<<

"Door 2R:
➢ Closet removed and replaced with new windscreen equipped with Economy Plus brand plaque and safety video monitor."

"Flight Attendant Seats
➢ New cushions and covers.
➢ New bumpers and rubstrips.
➢ New, longer restraints to match new décor."

I wonder if Econ plus will have purple head covers like on the CRJ 550. Maybe the best “economy” version on a plane gets purple or something, idk just an idea

Color coding is very important in branding. Although consumers don’t often think past 2 levels of colors: Eg: Primary brand color (Red: Coka-Cola) then a second color for variants, diet, zero, cherry etc. Often a 3rd color doesn’t register, it’s asking consumers to think too much, Ex: Red= Coka-Cola, Black =Zero Red, Black & Gold=decaf Coke Zero. Too much.

But I did think that “MAYBE” (perhaps) purple on United means “Much better than Economy, but not quite Polaris” - Better said: Purple = “Accessible Premium” premium and comfort that more people can afford. So perhaps since the new 752 First seat is going to be FAR better than before, but NOT quite Polaris, that Purple headrests or dark royal purple upholstery might be really nice!

So, a small off topic thing. A friend of mine is a serious germ-o-phobic person. We probably have all heard that airplane tray tables are a hotbed of germs. She brings Clorox wipes every time she flys and wipes down everything. But she also will only fly an airline with leather seats (cloth upholstery is out-of-the-question!). Does anyone know if cloth upholstery is filled with nasty germs etc vs leather? I cannot think of one airline using leather on a lie flat seat?

codc10 · Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:51 pm

VC10er wrote:
I cannot think of one airline using leather on a lie flat seat?

Delta, for one.

n515cr · Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:55 pm

codc10 wrote:
VC10er wrote:
I cannot think of one airline using leather on a lie flat seat?

Delta, for one.

SQ comes to mind.

notconcerned · Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:48 pm

VC10er wrote:
I cannot think of one airline using leather on a lie flat seat?

In addition to the ones listed above, AT (Royal Air Maroc), RJ (Royal Jordanian), AZ (Alitalia), B6 Mint, EK (new business).

CALTECH · Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:31 pm

LGeneReese wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
Well, this is interesting, using a maint ferry flight number and no departure sked yet:
789:
N35953 entered MCO 2725/14Oct, don't recall a 787 in MCO for maint before

In for Passenger O2 Bottle replacements , stemming from the loss of both packs at 39K ft last week. A lot of the work was accomplished at EWR.

Has it been determined what caused this double failure?

Electrical.

LGeneReese · Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:34 pm

CALTECH wrote:
LGeneReese wrote:
CALTECH wrote:

In for Passenger O2 Bottle replacements , stemming from the loss of both packs at 39K ft last week. A lot of the work was accomplished at EWR.

Has it been determined what caused this double failure?

Electrical.

That we knew..What isn’t electrical on a 787.... I was more into the what components and why specifically of the event.

jayunited · Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:59 pm

LGeneReese wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
LGeneReese wrote:
Has it been determined what caused this double failure?

Electrical.

That we knew..What isn’t electrical on a 787.... I was more into the what components and why specifically of the event.

The specific information you are requesting is contained within internal reports and repairs are still on going. Having said that I don't think anyone is going to post information that specific. There are post in several threads with posts from insiders like myself and from a passenger who was actually onboard the flight as this situation was unfolding. If that information isn't enough to satisfy peoples curiosity into this event, then I will leave it up to UA or someone else to release all the specifics you're looking for.

CALTECH · Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:06 am

LGeneReese wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
LGeneReese wrote:
Has it been determined what caused this double failure?

Electrical.

That we knew..What isn’t electrical on a 787.... I was more into the what components and why specifically of the event.

787 Engine Driven Hydraulic Systems for one...

UAinAUS · Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:38 am

UAX Update:

E75SC:
N617UX has been delivered to ExpressJet

CR2:
N854AS has left ExpressJet and is now flying Skywest as UAX

CR5:
N600QX ferried JAX-AMA for new livery

Max Q · Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:11 am

CALTECH wrote:

Good looking pair

calpsafltskeds · Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:39 pm

764:
N77066 entered MCO 2756/13Oct, sked to exit 2740/16Oct, reported above as only rudder touch up

789:
N35953 sked to exit MCO 2739/16Oct after O2 system repair

CALTECH · Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:20 pm

At this point, IIRC, this month United would have had 26 737MAX in service, with 4 more by the end of the year.

The 737MAX is going to be a fine airplane after these issues are corrected. It will also be one of the safest aircraft flying after this, as they have been testing it with failures that have never been seen before in operations.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/737-max-sa ... 1564778841
737 MAX Safety Tests Covering Increasingly Remote Failure Risks
Reviews of grounded Boeing jet are expanding beyond the automated flight-control system behind two crashes.

Also, United is doing very well this month in statistics, and the older fleets are for now, outperforming the younger fleets. Good to see United performing better consistently..

D:00...Departures Ontime
...............1................2...............3..............4
MTD.......UA.75.5.....DL.74.5....AA.72.0....WN.61.2

10/15......UA.77.6.....DL.74.6....AA.73.9....WN.60.6

Completion Factor
...............1....................2....................3.....................4
MTD.......DL.99.82.......UA.99.48.......WN.99.35.......AA.99.06

10/15......UA.99.86.......DL.99.74.......WN.99.42.......AA.99.26

calpsafltskeds · Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:01 pm

319:
N826UA sked to exit LCQ 2749/18Oct in new 12F config.

738:
N36272 sked to enter AMA 2751/17Oct for new livery

ocaviation · Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:12 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
319:
N826UA sked to exit LCQ 2749/18Oct in new 12F config.

738:
N36272 sked to enter AMA 2751/17Oct for new livery

Any possibility of one of these 738s going in for the Star Wars livery one day?

adamblang · Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:28 am

I don't know when this went live and it's just an illustration but each type in the UA fleet is depicted in the new livery here:

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/tr ... fleet.html

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