I have a question about used 763ER’s. UA may or may not want more, but is the 763 ER an aircraft that is available on the used market- 763 airframes with life left in them? Eg: Hawaiian frames UA took?
The is a reason I ask. I just did an EWR/LA RT on the 787-10, in a true Polaris seat. OTHER THAN THE VERY SERIOUSLY BAD SITUATION WITH UNITED CLUBS at EWR, those flights I would give a perfect 10 out of 10 score- especially transcontinental. I know UA is planning to really fix up the 752 interiors, and it cannot happen soon enough. But, truly, how much time is left in them? Between EWR & LAX/SFO how many frames are needed once the 3 78J’s are counted for? And unless they fix the F cabin on the HD 772’s and replace them with “at least” the newer diamond seats coming off the 787-8/9s, United’s transcontinental hard product product + the new soft products (BTW: FA’s both ways were fabulous) as was food (even the new plastic amenity kits w new eyeshades and post cards) are nice “enough”
I think of Mr & Ms average who spring for F, unwittingly finding themselves on a 78J out and a 752 back- they must go into severe shock at the difference. Then I thought how perfect a 763 would be on Transcontinental w Polaris “seats” then “premium economy (for which I’d add 2 more rows of bc mid flight i walked through PE and the Pax looked very happy and comfy- I have yet to fly in one)- I am “ASSUMING” that, 1: not enough 763’s on the used market, and 2: would they add too many UA transcontinental seats given current frequencies? (Me thinks a newly refurbished 763 with right sized F, PE and E+ with good service and treats would fill up quite fast without cutting frequencies)
UA does not need any more used 763s and I don't believe they are even looking for any more used 763s.
As far as using 763s on EWR-SFO/LAX routes I don't think that is a great idea, reason being the 763 has a higher operating cost when compared to a 752. There are certain routes like EWR-LHR, ORD-LHR and other European routes where a premium heavy 763 makes sense operationally and financially (UA can recoup the higher operating cost). However on transcon routes like EWR-SFO/LAX I don't believe it makes sense financially to put a premium heavy 763 or any 763 on these routes, using a 78J or 77HD both with over 300 seats provides UA plenty of opportunity to recoup the higher operational cost of those frames over a 752 a premium heavy 763 does not. Remember UA's EWR-SFO-EWR is one of the most profitable routes in the world and UA's EWR-LAX-EWR is in the top 10 most profitable routes in North America. Placing premium heavy 763s on these routes would be a step in the wrong direction financially for UA.
Thanks for answering the musings of a novice!
I knew there was going to be a number of good reasons “why a decked out 763 would NOT work” I simply didn’t know what they would be except for lack of available frames and potentially too large.
I actually did know the amazing financial performance of these routes for United. Which upon reading for the first time surprised me a bit because A) I always read what a huge mistake it was to move “ps” to EWR from JFK, B) that the “specialness” of the original “ps” 3 class aircraft was made plain old 2 class interiors C) That other airlines had a better product.
I do know (from a.net) that UA is planning to refurbish the 752’s...and especially First Class. (I don’t recall if the refurbished 752’s will get a PE section? (If possible I think it would be a great offer for those willing to pay more for more but cannot afford First.
Bottom line: my RT EWR/LAX both ways on the 78J in the “Polaris” seat (9L & 11A) were probably the 2 best Domestic flights in my life. (EXCEPT FOR THE UNITED CLUB SITUATION AT EWR, yet the United Club at LAX was awesome, not just new and beautiful, but the “make your own breakfast tacos were terrific!) they must realize this and have a plan!
Cheers & Thanks R