SCFlyer wrote:jayunited wrote:UA has already announced our new international destinations for spring and summer 2020, I don't think we will see another announcement cover that time frame. So far there has official for the fall/winter 2020/2021 season. There are always rumors at Willis, there were rumors UA this year would announce new routes to Indai from EWR so far that rumor has proven false. The rumor about an SFO-MNL nonstop was resurrected late this year based on a dispute UA had/has with PAL. Perhaps we will see a SFO-MNL nonstop once the 788s are reconfigured with a only 28 business class seats, however I don't see UA returning to BKK any time soon.
Personally what I would like to see announced for the fall/winter 2020/2021 season is as follows:
IAD-TLV increased to daily
DEN-FRA increased to daily
SFO-MEL increased to daily (for IATA winter)
ORD/IAD-DUB and ORD/IAD-FCO seasons extended till mid December.
Seasonal DEN-AKL 3x weekly from November 1, 2020 though March 15, 2021.
Seasonal SFO-BNE 3x weekly from November 1, 2020 through March 15, 2021
Little to no chance for SFO-MNL considering most of the (limited) high yielding market on this route has likely been absorbed by PR.
MNL being known traditionally as a low yielding VFR market means UA is happy to leave SFO-MNL to PR, the 1-stop options and LCCs. Even a high density 788 would look difficult from a yield perspective for a low yielding long haul market.
DEN-AKL is a possibility, especially with the NZ feed to the Australian mainland cities and regional towns. But considering UA seasonally cuts back on SYD routes (and to a lesser extent MEL) during the Northern Winter, I can't see SFO-MEL being daily year round.
BNE's yields is likely to be depressed to support a third competitor (or fourth competitor if you count AC) on the non-stop TransPac market, considering the duopoly of QF/AA and VA/DL. UA also only has an interline with QF on AU ends of the route, but will have to rely on mostly low yielding O&D, which wouldn't make BNE viable in the short/medium term.
What SYD cut backs are you referring to during the Northern Winter season? The only cuts I'm seeing on our SYD flights take place during the Northern hemispheres IATA summer. Next year during IATA summer IAH-SYD will operate 6x weekly and LAX-SYD will operate 4x weekly. While still not daily it does represent a year over year increase in UA's SYD service. For the 2019/2020 IATA winter season I'm seeing daily service to SYD on all three UA routes.
On our MEL route UA will maintain daily service from the US in 2020 but I believe at some point in February LAX-MEL will go 4x weekly seasonally (I believe LAX-MEL returns to daily service for the winter 2020/2021 season. At the same time SFO-MEL will now operated 3x weekly year round instead of seasonal which was the original plan.
When I said I would like to see SFO-MEL go daily I see I forgot to be specific I was referring to the IATA Northern winter season only not daily service on a year round basis.