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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:55 pm

IAHWorldflyer wrote:
In the HKG thread, someone noted that EWR-GRU will be going to 77W for northern winter. That route requires 2 frames since the plane sits all day down at GRU. SFO-FRA will also go to a 77W.
I'd suspect they may upgauge the second daily EWR-TLV flight to a 77W. Seems like they have good loads on that route. Possibly put a 77W on one of the EWR-India routes as well?
Is LAX-SYD a 77W? I could see that as a possibility for the January-February peak season on that route.


Yes, EWR-GRU is going from a 772 to a 77W, as are both EWR-TLV flights (one is a 787-10).

EWR-India, if they resume flights, given the raised risk potential for some sort of conflict in the Persian Gulf area, yes. LAX to SYD is not a 77W and never has been. It went from a 747-400 to a 777-200ER to a 787-9 over the years and remains a 789.
 
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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:56 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
San Francisco to Auckland, which was being operated with a 777-300ER at peak season is going to be a 787-10. It would seem UA has to figure out where to put 773s not pull them from, this winter. Thoughts?


You're seeking to get particularly granular for a fleet of 192 widebody aircraft. A few seasonal parkings, an uptick in Polaris conversions... and your careful math (speculation) gets thrown off.


Huh? Illogical.
 
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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:10 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
IAHWorldflyer wrote:
In the HKG thread, someone noted that EWR-GRU will be going to 77W for northern winter. That route requires 2 frames since the plane sits all day down at GRU. SFO-FRA will also go to a 77W.
I'd suspect they may upgauge the second daily EWR-TLV flight to a 77W. Seems like they have good loads on that route. Possibly put a 77W on one of the EWR-India routes as well?
Is LAX-SYD a 77W? I could see that as a possibility for the January-February peak season on that route.


Yes, EWR-GRU is going from a 772 to a 77W, as are both EWR-TLV flights (one is a 787-10).

EWR-India, if they resume flights, given the raised risk potential for some sort of conflict in the Persian Gulf area, yes. LAX to SYD is not a 77W and never has been. It went from a 747-400 to a 777-200ER to a 787-9 over the years and remains a 789.


Both EWR-India flights resumed Sept 6.
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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:23 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
San Francisco to Auckland, which was being operated with a 777-300ER at peak season is going to be a 787-10. It would seem UA has to figure out where to put 773s not pull them from, this winter. Thoughts?


You're seeking to get particularly granular for a fleet of 192 widebody aircraft. A few seasonal parkings, an uptick in Polaris conversions... and your careful math (speculation) gets thrown off.


Huh? Illogical.


Don’t forget Polaris conversions for the 787s is about to start and it looks like a very aggressive conversion schedule. The supposed slack in the wide body fleet will cover for the 787’s.
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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:29 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
As noted in previous threads, UA is suspending some long haul routes (ORG-HKG, EWR-EZE) and shifting capacity in other markets (all SFO/EWR to HKG to 772ER). Curious about some other changes and what others think:

San Francisco to Auckland, which was being operated with a 777-300ER at peak season is going to be a 787-10. It would seem UA has to figure out where to put 773s not pull them from, this winter. Thoughts?

Also, UA will base some 767-400ERs at IAH for the winter, to operate some deep South America routes and one London Heathrow frequency. Think this is the first time long haul international will see the 767-400ER at IAH since the merger.


For the W19/20 season UA's current 77W schedule calls for 17 frames (if I did my math correctly) most of the schedule changes will be complete by mid-December. UA is shceduled to take delivery of 2 additional 77W frames this years with a frame arriving in mid-November and another in mid-December. (The remaining 2 77W frames will be delivered in 2020). With the 2 deliveries we will have 3 spare frames, that number grows to 4 spare frames by the end of January 2020. Also keep in mind the 77W schedule has the most slack built into the schedule when compared to all of UA's widbody schedules. This is done on purpose so that if several GE or a PW 77E goes out on unplanned maintenance a 77W can step in and take up the slack.

The W19/20 77W schedule is as follows: EWR - PVG/GRU/NRT/BOM/TLV 2x daily; and from SFO - TPE/NRT/FRA 2x daily.

As far as the 764's, moving some of the fleet to IAH represents a capacity increase over the 763s which are currently being used on most IAH-South America routes.
The downguage of equiptment on one of UA's IAH-LHR flights is only temporary, necessitated by an aggressive Polaris/PE winter installation schedul. At times during this upcoming winter season UA will have 3 GE 77Es out of service at HKG for Polaris/PE and another 2 PW 77Es will be at XMN. Combine with the fact that IAH-GRU will be upguaged to a GE 77E on Monday December 9, 2019 UA GE 77E W19/20 schedule is a bit tight. The GE 77E will be back on IAH-LHR route Thursday February 13, 2020 just a few days after several frames return to service.
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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:34 pm

jayunited wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
As noted in previous threads, UA is suspending some long haul routes (ORG-HKG, EWR-EZE) and shifting capacity in other markets (all SFO/EWR to HKG to 772ER). Curious about some other changes and what others think:

San Francisco to Auckland, which was being operated with a 777-300ER at peak season is going to be a 787-10. It would seem UA has to figure out where to put 773s not pull them from, this winter. Thoughts?

Also, UA will base some 767-400ERs at IAH for the winter, to operate some deep South America routes and one London Heathrow frequency. Think this is the first time long haul international will see the 767-400ER at IAH since the merger.


For the W19/20 season UA's current 77W schedule calls for 17 frames (if I did my math correctly) most of the schedule changes will be complete by mid-December. UA is shceduled to take delivery of 2 additional 77W frames this years with a frame arriving in mid-November and another in mid-December. (The remaining 2 77W frames will be delivered in 2020). With the 2 deliveries we will have 3 spare frames, that number grows to 4 spare frames by the end of January 2020.

The W19/20 77W schedule is as follows: EWR - PVG/GRU/NRT/BOM/TLV 2x daily; and from SFO - TPE/NRT/FRA 2x daily.

As far as the 764's moving some of the fleet to IAH represents a capacity increase over the 763s which is currently being used on most IAH-South America routes.
The downguage of equiptment on one of UA's IAH-LHR flights is only temporary, necessitated by an aggressive Polaris/PE winter installation schedul. At times during this upcoming winter season UA will have 3 GE 77Es out of service at HKG for Polaris/PE. Combine with the fact that IAH-GRU will be upguaged to a GE 77E on Monday December 9, 2019 UA GE 77E W19/20 schedule is a bit tight. The GE 77E will be back on IAH-LHR route Thursday February 13, 2020 just a few days after several frames return to service.


One of the SFO-LHR flights is operated with B77W, so far the operations are going well EWR-NRT / BOM / PVG / GRU / TLVx2 and SFO-TPE / NRT / LHR / FRAx2 I am surprised by the reduction of B77W in SFO there is a lot of potential for many from that hub
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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:41 pm

IAHWorldflyer wrote:
I'd suspect they may upgauge the second daily EWR-TLV flight to a 77W. Seems like they have good loads on that route. Possibly put a 77W on one of the EWR-India routes as well?

aemoreira1981 up above pointed out that EWR-TLV does indeed go all 77W this winter.
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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:43 pm

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One of the SFO-LHR flights is operated with B77W, so far the operations are going well EWR-NRT / BOM / PVG / GRU / TLVx2 and SFO-TPE / NRT / LHR / FRAx2 I am surprised by the reduction of B77W in SFO there is a lot of potential for many from that hub


Go back and read my entire post which only deals with the upcoming W19/20 season, if you look at the winter season there is no 77W on SFO-LHR.

That is because you are simply looking at the 77W fleet and not the entire SFO international operation which has grown. The reason some of the 77Ws have and are going to be pulled from the SFO international market is because UA has increase capacity or plans to increase capacity to 10x weekly, or has/will go full daily double.

There is a lot of potential from SFO as you correctly pointed out and UA when looking at the whole picture is taking full advantage of that potential at both SFO.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:56 pm

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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:43 pm

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The W19/20 77W schedule is as follows: EWR - PVG/GRU/NRT/BOM/TLV 2x daily; and from SFO - TPE/NRT/FRA 2x daily.


By my count this flying would only require 15 frames. The schedules for routes like EWR-PVG and EWR-NRT combine nicely with EWR-GRU, EWR-BOM, etc., meaning that you only need 3 aircraft to cover a combination of two routes like EWR-GRU+EWR-PVG or EWR-BOM+EWR-NRT. That's 6 frames. A further 3 are needed to cover the EWR-TLV services, for a total of 9 frames at EWR.

From SFO, the TPE flight requires two frames due to the RON at TPE. I believe the 2x SFO-FRA flights require 3 frames due to flight timing, and then SFO-NRT just needs one.
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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:23 pm

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jayunited wrote:
The W19/20 77W schedule is as follows: EWR - PVG/GRU/NRT/BOM/TLV 2x daily; and from SFO - TPE/NRT/FRA 2x daily.


By my count this flying would only require 15 frames. The schedules for routes like EWR-PVG and EWR-NRT combine nicely with EWR-GRU, EWR-BOM, etc., meaning that you only need 3 aircraft to cover a combination of two routes like EWR-GRU+EWR-PVG or EWR-BOM+EWR-NRT. That's 6 frames. A further 3 are needed to cover the EWR-TLV services, for a total of 9 frames at EWR.

From SFO, the TPE flight requires two frames due to the RON at TPE. I believe the 2x SFO-FRA flights require 3 frames due to flight timing, and then SFO-NRT just needs one.


I understand how you did the math and you are most likely correct . However, I caculated EWR-TLV at 4 frames, SFO-NRT and EWR-NRT at 1.5 frames a piece, SFO-FRA at 3.5. The extra frame to TLV and the .5 frames to NRT and FRA is how I came up with 17.

By your caculations there will be 6 spare 77Ws in the fleet daily by the end of January 2020 which for a fleet as small as the 77W is a lot but when put into the much larger context of UA's entire 777 fleet having those 6 spares is almost normal especially seeing there will be a minimum of 5 77Es (GE, PWs) out of service for Polaris/PE, another untold number out of service for just regular maintenance and perhaps paint (full disclosure I have not seen any updated widebody paint schedule). The 77Ws are not being fully utilized this upcoming winter 2019/2020 season but I still think it is by design to make sure UA has the flexibility to cover the entire 777 fleet no matter what comes up unexpectantly.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:33 pm

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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:09 am

jayunited wrote:
FSDan wrote:
jayunited wrote:
The W19/20 77W schedule is as follows: EWR - PVG/GRU/NRT/BOM/TLV 2x daily; and from SFO - TPE/NRT/FRA 2x daily.


By my count this flying would only require 15 frames. The schedules for routes like EWR-PVG and EWR-NRT combine nicely with EWR-GRU, EWR-BOM, etc., meaning that you only need 3 aircraft to cover a combination of two routes like EWR-GRU+EWR-PVG or EWR-BOM+EWR-NRT. That's 6 frames. A further 3 are needed to cover the EWR-TLV services, for a total of 9 frames at EWR.

From SFO, the TPE flight requires two frames due to the RON at TPE. I believe the 2x SFO-FRA flights require 3 frames due to flight timing, and then SFO-NRT just needs one.


I understand how you did the math and you are most likely correct . However, I caculated EWR-TLV at 4 frames, SFO-NRT and EWR-NRT at 1.5 frames a piece, SFO-FRA at 3.5. The extra frame to TLV and the .5 frames to NRT and FRA is how I came up with 17.

By your caculations there will be 6 spare 77Ws in the fleet daily by the end of January 2020 which for a fleet as small as the 77W is a lot but when put into the much larger context of UA's entire 777 fleet having those 6 spares is almost normal especially seeing there will be a minimum of 5 77Es (GE, PWs) out of service for Polaris/PE, another untold number out of service for just regular maintenance and perhaps paint (full disclosure I have not seen any updated widebody paint schedule). The 77Ws are not being fully utilized this upcoming winter 2019/2020 season but I still think it is by design to make sure UA has the flexibility to cover the entire 777 fleet no matter what comes up unexpectantly.



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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:38 am

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:50 pm

Looking for some help on the PW772s.
The 77J is becoming the 77N, no crew bunks (77J N795UA remaining to get Polaris/PP)
The 77Q is becoming the 77U with crew bunks.(all other ITPE units are 77Q units)
I have gone back but can't identify if the below have crew bunks as I moved them to a single Polaris classification instead of using the new N/U designation.
Do the below have crew bunks/modules, thus being a 77U vs. no crew facilities (77N)?
N204UA, N223UA, N786UA, N788UA, N796UA
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:52 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Looking for some help on the PW772s.
The 77J is becoming the 77N, no crew bunks (77J N795UA remaining to get Polaris/PP)
The 77Q is becoming the 77U with crew bunks.(all other ITPE units are 77Q units)
I have gone back but can't identify if the below have crew bunks as I moved them to a single Polaris classification instead of using the new N/U designation.
Do the below have crew bunks/modules, thus being a 77U vs. no crew facilities (77N)?
N204UA, N223UA, N786UA, N788UA, N796UA


All of the 77N aircraft have both pilot and F/a bunks according to our manual.
 
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Re: UA Long Haul Capacity Changes - Some Questions

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:54 pm

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EWR-India, if they resume flights, given the raised risk potential for some sort of conflict in the Persian Gulf area, yes.

Both flights to India from EWR resumed Sept 6th.

BTW what does Persian Gulf have to do with EWR - India flights? Their normal routing is over Russia, Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan), Afghanistan and Pakistan. It was Pakistan airspace closure and ban on US registered aircraft overflying Iran imposed by the FAA that caused the disruption. Nothing to do with Persian Gulf per se.

Of course there is always the possibility that Pakistan throws another random hissyfit....
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:36 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Looking for some help on the PW772s.
The 77J is becoming the 77N, no crew bunks (77J N795UA remaining to get Polaris/PP)
The 77Q is becoming the 77U with crew bunks.(all other ITPE units are 77Q units)
I have gone back but can't identify if the below have crew bunks as I moved them to a single Polaris classification instead of using the new N/U designation.
Do the below have crew bunks/modules, thus being a 77U vs. no crew facilities (77N)?
N204UA, N223UA, N786UA, N788UA, N796UA


I know we use N numbers on this thread but the easiest way I know how to explain the crew rest facilities on the PW 77E is by nose numbers not N numbers.

All 2000 and 2800 series PW 77Es use 1 or 2 business class seats for pilot crew rest depending on the stage length of the flight and for the FA's the crew rest is a bunker located downstairs in the aft cargo compartment.

All 2700 series PW 77Es have a small pilot crew rest bunker right behind the flight deck however because that bunker is so small they also get 1 business class seat on international routes. However there are exception if business class isn't sold out (49 seats sold) and the flight has a staged length over 12 hours then 2 business class seats must be held for crew rest unless the captain agrees to give up the second seat to either an upgrade on a nonrev. As far as FA crew rest area that is located up above part of the second half of the coach cabin and is really nice and spacious.

I've seen all the bunkers on the PW and GE 77Es, most FA's prefer the 2700 series PW or the GE 77Es FA bunker because is spacious when compared to the coffin like downstairs 6 person bunker found on the 2000 and 2800 series PW 77Es.
 
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Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:56 pm

Are there any changes to crew rest facilities with the Polaris mods?
 
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Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:03 pm

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Are there any changes to crew rest facilities with the Polaris mods?


There are no changes to the crew rest facilities.

I had hoped UA would have removed the downstairs bunker because it reduces the useable space in the rear compartment. If I'm not mistaken I think I read on a.netters a few years ago when UA started the IPTE installation that UA's earlier PW 77Es can not accomodiate overhead crew rest so they had to keep the coffin like bunkers on the aircraft that had them or continue to block 6 economy seats.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:19 pm

OK apparently I have it wrong on the Fleet site and would like to get it corrected.
Thanks for any help.

First, is there a difference between 2000 and 2800 aircraft?

I understand the internal codes are
ITPE 77J is becoming Polaris 77N - correct? 2000, 2700 or 2800?
ITPE 77Q is becoming Polaris 77U - correct? 2000, 2700 or 2800?

Here's what I show and hope I can get verification.
2700: (per jayunited, small pilot area behind cockpit/ overhead FA area)
2704/2706/2791/2792/2793/2796/2798/2799 all have Polaris
2795 still ITPE

2800: (per jayunited, no pilot rest area/FA rest area in aft cargo bin)
2809/2816/2817/2823/2824/2826/2827/2828/2882/2884/2886/2887/2888 all have Polaris
2822/2883/2885/2894/2897 still in ITPE NOTE: 222 expected to become Domestic unit

2000: (per jayunited, no pilot rest area/FA rest area in aft cargo bin)
2018/2025/2029 all have Polaris
2019/2020/2021 in ITPE and to become Domestic units
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:39 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Hi CALTECH and thanks for the update.
However, it looks like these are listed twice.. So, it looks like 20 73Gs total.

0755....... 737-76N .32679..... N13755....... 1514 ..........Sep-19 ........SWA/N7714B (610) (first one on list)
0775 .......737-76N .32679 ....TBD .............1514 ...........Aug-15 .......SWA/N7714B (610) (last one on list)


Those lists get long and wouldn't be surprised if there is a duplicate/typo. Have to check the numbers again.

Since the repaints stopped, many aircraft scored higher on the repaint list. IIRC, a 767, 6671? , scored the highest on the repaint list. There is a 757 and a 319? that were in AMA the last few days, IIRC, 102 and a 48XX, maybe 4876, getting the new livery. And again IIRC, 291 and 295 were to get the new livery. Miss that gold on the globe, the light blue will have to grow on me.

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:15 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
OK apparently I have it wrong on the Fleet site and would like to get it corrected.
Thanks for any help.

First, is there a difference between 2000 and 2800 aircraft?

I understand the internal codes are
ITPE 77J is becoming Polaris 77N - correct? 2000, 2700 or 2800?
ITPE 77Q is becoming Polaris 77U - correct? 2000, 2700 or 2800?

Here's what I show and hope I can get verification.
2700: (per jayunited, small pilot area behind cockpit/ overhead FA area)
2704/2706/2791/2792/2793/2796/2798/2799 all have Polaris
2795 still ITPE

2800: (per jayunited, no pilot rest area/FA rest area in aft cargo bin)
2809/2816/2817/2823/2824/2826/2827/2828/2882/2884/2886/2887/2888 all have Polaris
2822/2883/2885/2894/2897 still in ITPE NOTE: 222 expected to become Domestic unit

2000: (per jayunited, no pilot rest area/FA rest area in aft cargo bin)
2018/2025/2029 all have Polaris
2019/2020/2021 in ITPE and to become Domestic units


To answer your first question is there a difference between the 2000 and 2800 series? The answer is no there isn't. Both the 2000 and 2800 series utilize 1 or 2 business class seats for pilot crew rest and have the lower bunker for FA, crew rest. However there use to be a difference between them but we have to go back to pre-IPTE when 2800 series was the 2600 series had 45 not 49 business class seats with the lower bunker while the 2000 series had 49 business class seats and UA use to block 6 seats in coach for FA crew rest. UA installed the lower lever bunker on the 2000 series during the IPTE conversion it was also during this conversion that the 2700 series had the overhead crew rest installed. Before IPTE the only sUA 77E with an FA crew rest bunker was the 2600 series which is now the 2800 series.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:30 pm

The top 5 widebodies needing paint.....
6671
6675
2510
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6676

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:02 pm

Some Info on the 777 Fleet

September Update Changes

(Plan For All
777-222/224 Premium Economy Configuration 50/24/46/156 = 276 PAX
0001-0022, 2018-2021, 2025, 2029, 2704, 2706, 2786, 2791-2793, 2795-2796, 2798-99, 2809, 2816-2817, 2822-2824, 2826-2828, 2882-2885, 2887-2888, 2894, 2897)

2 Cabin High Density B777 - 222A ...'77G' ...2469 2471 2473 2474 2475 2476 2477 2478 2480 2481
...........................................................'77M' ...2368 2372 2379 2510 2511 2512 2513 2514 2515

3 Cabin ..............................................'77J' ....2795
...........................................................'77Q' ...2019 2020 2021 2809 2822 2883 2885 2894 2897

2 Cabin...............................................'77Y' ...0006 0007 0008 0009 0010 0012 0013 0014 0017 0018 0019 0020 0021 0022

POLARIS...........................................'77E' ...0001 0002 0003 0004 0005 0011 0015 0016
...........................................................'77N' ...2704 2706 2786 2791 2792 2793 2796 2798 2799
...........................................................'77U' ...2018 2025 2029 2816 2817 2823 2824 2826 2827 2828 2882 2884 2887 2888

777-300ER SATCOM........................'77X' ...2131 2132 2133 2134 2135 2136 2137 2138 2139 (2140(*)) 2141 2142 2143 2144 2145 2146 2147 2148


LLAR ENTRANCE
EFFECTIVITY
2816-2817, 2882-2885,
2887-2888, 2894, 2897

OHAR ENTRANCE
EFFECTIVITY
2704, 2706, 2786, 2791-2793,
2795-2796, 2798-2799

OHAR ENTRANCE
EFFECTIVITY
0001-0018

OHAR ENTRANCE
EFFECTIVITY
0019-0022
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:42 pm

Now that you are talking about fleet maintenance and repairs, do you happen to know what UA is going to do with ship 123? That's the 757 that landed rough a few months ago a my local Airport, EWR. DL had one land rough in the Azores not long ago and they flew it back to repair it. Hope 123 doesn't get turned into cans yet.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:42 pm

Thanks, jayunited.

319:
N875UA, ex CZ B-6039 entered XMN Induction 2715/18Sep

752:
Removed N505UA from active on fleet site as never returned to service in April 2019 (to be MAX groundings relief)

763:
N658UA exited MIA maint 2750/17Sep
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:47 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Hi CALTECH and thanks for the update.
However, it looks like these are listed twice.. So, it looks like 20 73Gs total.

0755....... 737-76N .32679..... N13755....... 1514 ..........Sep-19 ........SWA/N7714B (610) (first one on list)
0775 .......737-76N .32679 ....TBD .............1514 ...........Aug-15 .......SWA/N7714B (610) (last one on list)


The numbers look to have been messed up with the deletion of 737-7V3 Acft #0755 and the addition of ex-SWA 737-76N Acft # 0755

List of Additions
#0755-0775 737-76N

ex-SWA 737-76N Acft # 0775 hasn't been assigned a new N # yet according to the list.

Looks like 20 for sure, maybe 21. Have to wait till the next correction comes out.....
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:47 pm

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Now that you are talking about fleet maintenance and repairs, do you happen to know what UA is going to do with ship 123? That's the 757 that landed rough a few months ago a my local Airport, EWR. DL had one land rough in the Azores not long ago and they flew it back to repair it. Hope 123 doesn't get turned into cans yet.


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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:22 pm

752:
Per Planespotters and other posts here and in other places, unfortunately N26123 has been written off and reported to be stripped for parts at EWR. Maybe someone else has an update on the actual frame.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:32 pm

CALTECH, thanks as always for the info.
What is EFFECTIVITY?

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N209UA now 77U as it exited XMN with Polaris 9/18 and is to fly 888 today
N78004 and N78005 are currently in Polaris mod as is N794UA
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:05 pm

Any word on configuration for the 4 77E going domestic?

B764er wrote:
Now that you are talking about fleet maintenance and repairs, do you happen to know what UA is going to do with ship 123? That's the 757 that landed rough a few months ago a my local Airport, EWR. DL had one land rough in the Azores not long ago and they flew it back to repair it. Hope 123 doesn't get turned into cans yet.


Supposedly, the damage to N543US was considerable, but not as extensive as N26123. 123 is being parted-out as we speak.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:19 pm

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To answer your first question is there a difference between the 2000 and 2800 series? The answer is no there isn't. Both the 2000 and 2800 series utilize 1 or 2 business class seats for pilot crew rest and have the lower bunker for FA, crew rest. However there use to be a difference between them but we have to go back to pre-IPTE when 2800 series was the 2600 series had 45 not 49 business class seats with the lower bunker while the 2000 series had 49 business class seats and UA use to block 6 seats in coach for FA crew rest. UA installed the lower lever bunker on the 2000 series during the IPTE conversion it was also during this conversion that the 2700 series had the overhead crew rest installed. Before IPTE the only sUA 77E with an FA crew rest bunker was the 2600 series which is now the 2800 series.


Are the 2000/2800 and 2700 series aircraft used on different missions, or are they scheduled completely interchangeably?
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:15 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
What is EFFECTIVITY?


Effectivity is the aircraft that are equipped or have the item.

LLAR - Lower Level Aircrew Rest

OHAR - Over Head Aircrew Rest
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:57 pm

CALTECH wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
What is EFFECTIVITY?


Effectivity is the aircraft that are equipped or have the item.

LLAR - Lower Level Aircrew Rest

OHAR - Over Head Aircrew Rest


Do the last 4 77E (-224) have a different OHAR facility? IIRC those came factory-installed and the others were retrofit, but anything else? The pilot rest facility is the same on all -224ER I believe (bunk port side, aft of FD).
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:20 pm

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jayunited wrote:
To answer your first question is there a difference between the 2000 and 2800 series? The answer is no there isn't. Both the 2000 and 2800 series utilize 1 or 2 business class seats for pilot crew rest and have the lower bunker for FA, crew rest. However there use to be a difference between them but we have to go back to pre-IPTE when 2800 series was the 2600 series had 45 not 49 business class seats with the lower bunker while the 2000 series had 49 business class seats and UA use to block 6 seats in coach for FA crew rest. UA installed the lower lever bunker on the 2000 series during the IPTE conversion it was also during this conversion that the 2700 series had the overhead crew rest installed. Before IPTE the only sUA 77E with an FA crew rest bunker was the 2600 series which is now the 2800 series.


Are the 2000/2800 and 2700 series aircraft used on different missions, or are they scheduled completely interchangeably?


Now they are used interchangeably however before the merger and prior to IPTE UA tried to keep the 2600 series off routes with historically high cargo volumes because the bunker costs us a total of 4 positions in the aft cargo compartment.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:56 pm

Are we to assume will remove FA lower crew module during converston from itpe to domestic?
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:10 am

319:
N810UA confirmed with 12F configuration after LCQ exit. 12/36/78, 2 converted and in service

763:
N648UA (not N658UA) exited MIA maint 2750/17Sep
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:48 am

73G:
UPDATE:
N16703 entered INT 2734/18Sep from CLE.
N16701 sked to exit INT 2735/19Sep after 1 month visit.

UA hasn't had aircraft in INT since 2016 after heavy use for E+/WiFi/Slimlines mods. North State is the only facility that looks like it handles commercial narrowbodies and Google Earth shows UA aircraft there in 2015. So, maybe UA is having work done in INT again.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:52 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Are we to assume will remove FA lower crew module during converston from itpe to domestic?


I think that is a safe assumption, I don't see the need for a lower level bunker for domestic flights. Even if UA uses these future conversion for long haul domestic flights like ORD-HNL/OGG, EWR/IAH-HNL I think blocking the 6 seats in coach should be enough especially if these frames find their way onto route like HNL-GUM-HNL that lower level bunker will take away much need cargo positions.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:38 pm

319:
N879UA, ex CZ B-2295 sked to enter XMN Storage/Induction 2714/20Sep
That puts 4 Ex CZ 319s in XMN, probably latest arrivals awaiting Induction work. There are at least 3 more in the pipeline that appear to have completed service for CZ.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:34 pm

772:
N78004 sked to exit HKG 2768/21Sep with Polaris/PP
7th of 22 GE772 and I don't see another sked into HKG at this time
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:25 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
772:
N78004 sked to exit HKG 2768/21Sep with Polaris/PP
7th of 22 GE772 and I don't see another sked into HKG at this time


Right now September 19th, N69020 is schedule to ferry position IAH-SFO-HKG on September 20th as UA2739.

However tropical depression Imelda just shut down IAH to arriving aircraft and that aircraft is currently flying UA47 FRA-IAH and will be diverting. The diversion has not yet been loaded into the system but IAH is closed for the next 18-22 hours do to this storm that is dumping feet of rain over the entire southeast Texas region.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:37 am

752:
N14102 sked to exit AMA 2760/20Sep in Globe Evolution - 1st 752
N14106 sked to enter AMA paint 2733/21Sep

772:
N784UA sked to exit XMN maint 2764/21Sep
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:05 pm

772:
N795UA sked to enter XMN 2732/22Sep for Polaris/PP
N69020 should be pushing back at SFO on 2739/20Sep to XMN for Polaris/PP

752:
N14102 exit from AMA paint has been cxld today.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:55 pm

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752:
N14102 exit from AMA paint has been cxld today.


The test flight crew couldn't get to AMA (they were going to do a photo/video flight). Since they couldn't get test pilots in there they canceled it, and it will now be operated by a normal line crew without anything special. I'm guessing it will depart tomorrow when the line crew brings in the other 752.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:06 pm

752 N14106 AMA paint got cxld.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:55 am

752 N14102 SKD out AMA at 1200P L as UAL2736 IAD.
 
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Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:58 am

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:30 am

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