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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:55 am

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Does United Airlines regret retiring the 737-500?

No, the A319's can and do fly transcon during Off peak and overnight hours. the 737-500's never did and I don't know if they could,
Though the A319 can fly ORD -ANC, And SEA-MIA. And could easily fly to Hawaii were they ETOPS equipped and I think they would Make Damn good airplanes to fly Inter-island with all the way to Guam and back.
 
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Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:28 am

77H wrote:
cosyr wrote:
77H wrote:

I never assumed anything... that’s why I asked the question. Furthermore... you have to factor in the cost of developing the new livery of which UA likely paid millions to do. My position is that interior refurbs should have been a bigger priority and would have gone farther in my opinion to present an updated revitalized brand.

Again, passengers are more likely to notice a run down, outdated cabin than they are a new shiny livery.

77H

But United can't use that logic to always put every penny into interiors, and never invest in their outward brand. Plenty of people have been saying that UA needs to change their livery since the merger. After a decade, they finally put some money that way, and they're still refurbishing interiors, as well.


Who are the “plenty of people” saying UA needs a new livery, avgeeks or airline employees? I highly doubt the general flying public cares about what external livery looks like.. they spend their time in the passenger cabin. So far this year I’ve done 23 segments on the 738, 739, 752, 753 and 77A with the majority of those on the 753 and 77A. The 77A isn’t terrible put the 738s, 752s are really long in the tooth and the 753s are inconsistent and the original CO interiors are quite a bit worse than the original TZ birds. I could care less about the exterior of the fleet as long as the livery is consistent and well maintained. To me, the interior should be as well.

77H

unfortunately? You're wrong. I've read Loads of comments Decrying the lack of imagination of United's Paint job. I personally thought United should have revamped ALL the interiors and put them on the Fast Track to get them done as Passengers see the interior cabins for a damn sight longer than they see the Paint scheme.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:46 am

Latest ex-CZ A319 movements (courtesy of skyliner-aviation.de):

Airbus A319-132 2200 N875UA United Airlines ferried 18 Sept 2019 NRT-XMN, for cabin config, prior delivery, ex B-6039
Airbus A319-132 2371 N878UA United Airlines regd 20 Sept 2019 prior delivery ex CAN, ex B-2294
Airbus A319-133 2408 N879UA United Airlines delivery 20 Sept 2019 NRT-XMN, for cabin config, prior delivery, ex B-2295
Airbus A319-133 2435 N881UA United Airlines regd 18 Sept 2019 prior delivery ex NRT, ex B-2297
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:22 pm

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The top 5 widebodies needing paint.....
6671
6675
2510
6664
6676

249 & 4876 in AMA


Just saw 6676 leave EWR and it is looking rough. Really can’t think that there are four in worse shape than it
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:06 pm

N14102 is out of the paint shop wearing the New York/New Jersey "Her Art Here" paint scheme.

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:19 pm

319:
N845UA sked to exit LCQ 2744/22Sep with 12F configuration

752:
N14102 now sked to exit AMA 2746/21Sep. Aircraft has Her Art Here paint job. (shown above)
 
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Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:29 pm

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N14102 is out of the paint shop wearing the New York/New Jersey "Her Art Here" paint scheme.

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I don't know why I didn't think about this when they started the contest, but they painted the New York/California design on a RR 752. Is this plane being reconfigured into the PS arrangement, or is it going to fly some transatlantic flights? I suppose the PW 752's may not stay in the fleet as long, but it would be dedicated to the routes that are painted on the plane.
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:35 am

752:
N14102 did exit AMA 2718/21Sep in Her Art Here livery
N14106 entered AMA 2748/21Sep for new livery
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:51 am

cosyr wrote:
KLMatSJC wrote:
N14102 is out of the paint shop wearing the New York/New Jersey "Her Art Here" paint scheme.

Image

I don't know why I didn't think about this when they started the contest, but they painted the New York/California design on a RR 752. Is this plane being reconfigured into the PS arrangement, or is it going to fly some transatlantic flights? I suppose the PW 752's may not stay in the fleet as long, but it would be dedicated to the routes that are painted on the plane.

No. This is an ETOPS bird... there is no configuration change. It will operate domestic and international.
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:06 pm

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:45 pm

319:
N881UA, Ex CZ B-2297 entered XMN Storage/Induction 2715/22Sep.
Now 5 in XMN. First one, N876UA took about 10 weeks - unknown if 5 currently in XMN will take less or more time due to number of units being Inducted. N877UA should be next out and has been in XMN just over 10 weeks.

752:
Her Art Here paint may indicate PW752s might not stay in the fleet long or don't need paint. For what its worth a high percentage of RR752s operate from EWR on TATL or Transcon flights. No way will UA rope this aircraft into Transcon only.

My records show 2 PW 752s were repainted in 2018, 2 definitely painted in 2012 and no records on the others, so they have older paint. Note, 6 PW752s are 1997/98 build while the other 8 are 1989/93 build (only one of the earlier 8 are ETOPS, but UA doesn't use any PW752s TATL or Hawaii at this point)
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:46 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
319:
N881UA, Ex CZ B-2297 entered XMN Storage/Induction 2715/22Sep.
Now 5 in XMN. First one, N876UA took about 10 weeks - unknown if 5 currently in XMN will take less or more time due to number of units being Inducted. N877UA should be next out and has been in XMN just over 10 weeks.

752:
Her Art Here paint may indicate PW752s might not stay in the fleet long or don't need paint. For what its worth a high percentage of RR752s operate from EWR on TATL or Transcon flights. No way will UA rope this aircraft into Transcon only.

My records show 2 PW 752s were repainted in 2018, 2 definitely painted in 2012 and no records on the others, so they have older paint. Note, 6 PW752s are 1997/98 build while the other 8 are 1989/93 build (only one of the earlier 8 are ETOPS, but UA doesn't use any PW752s TATL or Hawaii at this point)


Just a guess.....

If UA found a seat that will work in the MAX-10 to allow lie flat the PW birds might not make it past next fall. I’m sure rebooking is a nightmare with seat counts between the RR & PW When one goes tech.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:17 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
319:
N881UA, Ex CZ B-2297 entered XMN Storage/Induction 2715/22Sep.
Now 5 in XMN. First one, N876UA took about 10 weeks - unknown if 5 currently in XMN will take less or more time due to number of units being Inducted. N877UA should be next out and has been in XMN just over 10 weeks.

752:
Her Art Here paint may indicate PW752s might not stay in the fleet long or don't need paint. For what its worth a high percentage of RR752s operate from EWR on TATL or Transcon flights. No way will UA rope this aircraft into Transcon only.

My records show 2 PW 752s were repainted in 2018, 2 definitely painted in 2012 and no records on the others, so they have older paint. Note, 6 PW752s are 1997/98 build while the other 8 are 1989/93 build (only one of the earlier 8 are ETOPS, but UA doesn't use any PW752s TATL or Hawaii at this point)


The 2 “Her Art Here” 75s were never going to be painted on PW 75s. They were always going to be painted on RR 75s as those serve more destinations then the PW 75s.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:49 pm

cosyr wrote:
KLMatSJC wrote:
N14102 is out of the paint shop wearing the New York/New Jersey "Her Art Here" paint scheme.

Image

I don't know why I didn't think about this when they started the contest, but they painted the New York/California design on a RR 752. Is this plane being reconfigured into the PS arrangement, or is it going to fly some transatlantic flights? I suppose the PW 752's may not stay in the fleet as long, but it would be dedicated to the routes that are painted on the plane.


the RR 752 fly Transcon and TATL flights. UA will not reconfigure these planes, since the PS birds will be replaced with the 737max 10's.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:31 pm

2 Questions:

1: is there a hidden but approved lie flat seat for Narrow Body aircraft? Not quite Polaris but in the spirit of Polaris?

2: Can a UA 77W do SIN (Singapore) or does she not have the range? Same for SFO/LAX to SYD?

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Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:30 am

VC10er wrote:
2 Questions:

1: is there a hidden but approved lie flat seat for Narrow Body aircraft? Not quite Polaris but in the spirit of Polaris?

2: Can a UA 77W do SIN (Singapore) or does she not have the range? Same for SFO/LAX to SYD?

Thanks zillions for anything!
R


1: the seats that Jetblue uses for their Mint service. i believe Aer Lingus uses the same seat.

2: SFO-SIN is 8,500 miles, and the 77W has a range of 7,370. So no. The only plane that can fly SFO-SIN is the 789 and A359/ULH
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:10 am

876UA is back at IAH. Anyone seen any photos?
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:39 am

320:
N449UA sked to enter AMA 2755/23Sep

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N662UA exited SFO 2751/22Sep after landing gear change.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:54 am

xxcr wrote:
VC10er wrote:
2 Questions:

1: is there a hidden but approved lie flat seat for Narrow Body aircraft? Not quite Polaris but in the spirit of Polaris?

2: Can a UA 77W do SIN (Singapore) or does she not have the range? Same for SFO/LAX to SYD?

Thanks zillions for anything!
R


1: the seats that Jetblue uses for their Mint service. i believe Aer Lingus uses the same seat.

2: SFO-SIN is 8,500 miles, and the 77W has a range of 7,370. So no. The only plane that can fly SFO-SIN is the 789 and A359/ULH

That said, SQ did run SQ2 SIN-SFO one time this summer, when HKG was shut down. ;)

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA ... /WSSS/KSFO
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:25 am

GoSharks wrote:
xxcr wrote:
VC10er wrote:
2 Questions:

1: is there a hidden but approved lie flat seat for Narrow Body aircraft? Not quite Polaris but in the spirit of Polaris?

2: Can a UA 77W do SIN (Singapore) or does she not have the range? Same for SFO/LAX to SYD?

Thanks zillions for anything!
R


1: the seats that Jetblue uses for their Mint service. i believe Aer Lingus uses the same seat.

2: SFO-SIN is 8,500 miles, and the 77W has a range of 7,370. So no. The only plane that can fly SFO-SIN is the 789 and A359/ULH

That said, SQ did run SQ2 SIN-SFO one time this summer, when HKG was shut down. ;)

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA ... /WSSS/KSFO


THANKS BOTH xxcr & GoSharks!

SO, xxcr, thanks! I can see why that would be a very practical decision. I still have questions and curiosities, regarding premium hard product seats. I don’t want to take this thread off topic however. That said: is the JetBlue Mint seat an “off-the-shelf” (but somewhat customized) seat? And if so, who else uses it? I was frankly very surprised to see UA’s Diamond seat is so widely used. Perhaps different colors etc, but for kicks I do check out Biz & First on many airlines because I have Bix & First hard product OCD. I get why: it’s almost perfect for a “no all-aisle access” J seat.
I’m going to start a thread just to learn about it.

GoSharks: So, the 789 & 77W seem to have a significant range gap, how did Singapore do it? Block seats? Additional fuel tanks? A nicer livery? (Joke)
Again, I don’t want to veer of course on this thread, but what is the primary factor that impacts range so much between the 789 & 77W? Aerodynamics (Eg: wing?), MTOW? Engine efficiency? All of the above?
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:49 pm

GoSharks wrote:
xxcr wrote:
VC10er wrote:
2 Questions:

1: is there a hidden but approved lie flat seat for Narrow Body aircraft? Not quite Polaris but in the spirit of Polaris?

2: Can a UA 77W do SIN (Singapore) or does she not have the range? Same for SFO/LAX to SYD?

Thanks zillions for anything!
R


1: the seats that Jetblue uses for their Mint service. i believe Aer Lingus uses the same seat.

2: SFO-SIN is 8,500 miles, and the 77W has a range of 7,370. So no. The only plane that can fly SFO-SIN is the 789 and A359/ULH

That said, SQ did run SQ2 SIN-SFO one time this summer, when HKG was shut down. ;)

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA ... /WSSS/KSFO


Yes they did, however that flight was supposed to fly SIN-HKG-SFO and instead flew SIN-SFO. Meaning there was a substantial drop in passengers onboard the flight than what you would typically find on a 77W or on an SQ A359 or UA 789 operating SIN-SFO nonstop.
If I remember correctly I believe someone at the time which knowledge claimed that one off flight had a load factor in the low 40% range and there was no cargo. With such a light load the aircraft was able to fly the route nonstop but at great cost to SQ. An airline like SQ can absorb the cost of a one off flight but to schedule a 77W on a route like SIN-SFO daily isn't sustainable. The 77W was not designed for ULH routes it was designed to move large quantities of people, bags and cargo on long haul routes. On ULH routes airlines have to sacrifice cago but more importanly they have to sacrifice passengers and bags for additional fuel for the 77W to handle a ULH route. One last thing when compared to the A359 and/or the 789 the 77W (although not a fair comparision) is a gas guzzler and fuel is the number one expense most airlines face. When referring to ULH routes airlines need their most fuel effecient aircraft on these routes.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:55 pm

Agreed, the 77W is a gas guzzler vs the 789: 43.5% more fuel capacity for a 3.5% shorter range, but look at what you get for the extra fuel in an aircraft that do different missions:
77W carries 30% more pax, 17% more cargo volume and a whopping 60% higher payload with full tanks. Plus, I'm sure UA's recent purchase/ownership cost should be below the 789.
My guess is the 772 is a worse gas guzzler with capacity taken into account.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:11 pm

VC10er wrote:
GoSharks wrote:
xxcr wrote:

1: the seats that Jetblue uses for their Mint service. i believe Aer Lingus uses the same seat.

2: SFO-SIN is 8,500 miles, and the 77W has a range of 7,370. So no. The only plane that can fly SFO-SIN is the 789 and A359/ULH

That said, SQ did run SQ2 SIN-SFO one time this summer, when HKG was shut down. ;)

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA ... /WSSS/KSFO


THANKS BOTH xxcr & GoSharks!

SO, xxcr, thanks! I can see why that would be a very practical decision. I still have questions and curiosities, regarding premium hard product seats. I don’t want to take this thread off topic however. That said: is the JetBlue Mint seat an “off-the-shelf” (but somewhat customized) seat? And if so, who else uses it? I was frankly very surprised to see UA’s Diamond seat is so widely used. Perhaps different colors etc, but for kicks I do check out Biz & First on many airlines because I have Bix & First hard product OCD. I get why: it’s almost perfect for a “no all-aisle access” J seat.
I’m going to start a thread just to learn about it.

GoSharks: So, the 789 & 77W seem to have a significant range gap, how did Singapore do it? Block seats? Additional fuel tanks? A nicer livery? (Joke)
Again, I don’t want to veer of course on this thread, but what is the primary factor that impacts range so much between the 789 & 77W? Aerodynamics (Eg: wing?), MTOW? Engine efficiency? All of the above?
Best, R



The Diamond seats that UA uses on their 752, 763, 764, 788, 789, 772 are used by a lot of airlines. although an old design, its a very popular seat. There the super diamond seat which is just a larger version of the diamond seat.

Aer Lingus uses the same seat and can be found on their 752 and A321LR
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:41 pm

The fleet updates, fleet status, and repaint status posts at the start of this thread have been updated.

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Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:35 pm

xxcr wrote:
VC10er wrote:
GoSharks wrote:
That said, SQ did run SQ2 SIN-SFO one time this summer, when HKG was shut down. ;)

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA ... /WSSS/KSFO


THANKS BOTH xxcr & GoSharks!

SO, xxcr, thanks! I can see why that would be a very practical decision. I still have questions and curiosities, regarding premium hard product seats. I don’t want to take this thread off topic however. That said: is the JetBlue Mint seat an “off-the-shelf” (but somewhat customized) seat? And if so, who else uses it? I was frankly very surprised to see UA’s Diamond seat is so widely used. Perhaps different colors etc, but for kicks I do check out Biz & First on many airlines because I have Bix & First hard product OCD. I get why: it’s almost perfect for a “no all-aisle access” J seat.
I’m going to start a thread just to learn about it.

GoSharks: So, the 789 & 77W seem to have a significant range gap, how did Singapore do it? Block seats? Additional fuel tanks? A nicer livery? (Joke)
Again, I don’t want to veer of course on this thread, but what is the primary factor that impacts range so much between the 789 & 77W? Aerodynamics (Eg: wing?), MTOW? Engine efficiency? All of the above?
Best, R



The Diamond seats that UA uses on their 752, 763, 764, 788, 789, 772 are used by a lot of airlines. although an old design, its a very popular seat. There the super diamond seat which is just a larger version of the diamond seat.

Aer Lingus uses the same seat and can be found on their 752 and A321LR


Is the Diamond seat on UA’s 789’s a regular or Super Diamond seat? I have noticed that the Diamond seat used on UA’s 789’s are a bit updated vs the others (764, 757 etc) with the seat controls moved to the rear of the cocktail table. I think they look a bit nicer, but my elbow is constantly hitting the controls on the new version and in the middle of dinner, my seat suddenly starts reclining or something else starts moving.

IMHO: the Diamond seat is comfortable and the small self above your shoulder is just enough for your essentials. I do think the seat’s major design flaw is: because it is NOT an all aisle seat, and I’m a window person, there is no handle bar to help you step over the sleeping stranger next to you. Grabbing the back of the shell of the seat in front is not enough or even possible. A zillion years back when virtually no airline had “all aisle access” in J, TAM had a seat that was not very attractive, but did have padded handle bars. My legs are long enough for me to step over a sleeping seat mate without disturbing them, but I do need something to hold onto! I know there are better J seats than Polaris, but for a 6 to 18 hour flight (especially an odd number, fwd facing) Polaris seat is near perfect for a J seat. It truly is a “businessFirst” seat. It ain’t First, but better than previous generations of J.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:55 pm

How many more years does UA have left (generally speaking) in their 752 fleet, ps or TATAL. Can they get enough years out of them until something truly replaces them? OR, is the 737MAX-10 the answer- once cleared to fly?
If a 73M-10 has lie flat seats, what will the passenger capacity difference be? I’m assuming that with lie flats, the MAX-10 will carry a good amount less passengers.
NEXT, will a lie flat First Class MAX-10 have similar range as a current 752? Will it be able to do the East Coast to Europe destinations that the 752 has been flying? Open up routes as UA has been doing?
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:59 pm

VC10er wrote:
xxcr wrote:
VC10er wrote:

THANKS BOTH xxcr & GoSharks!

SO, xxcr, thanks! I can see why that would be a very practical decision. I still have questions and curiosities, regarding premium hard product seats. I don’t want to take this thread off topic however. That said: is the JetBlue Mint seat an “off-the-shelf” (but somewhat customized) seat? And if so, who else uses it? I was frankly very surprised to see UA’s Diamond seat is so widely used. Perhaps different colors etc, but for kicks I do check out Biz & First on many airlines because I have Bix & First hard product OCD. I get why: it’s almost perfect for a “no all-aisle access” J seat.
I’m going to start a thread just to learn about it.

GoSharks: So, the 789 & 77W seem to have a significant range gap, how did Singapore do it? Block seats? Additional fuel tanks? A nicer livery? (Joke)
Again, I don’t want to veer of course on this thread, but what is the primary factor that impacts range so much between the 789 & 77W? Aerodynamics (Eg: wing?), MTOW? Engine efficiency? All of the above?
Best, R



The Diamond seats that UA uses on their 752, 763, 764, 788, 789, 772 are used by a lot of airlines. although an old design, its a very popular seat. There the super diamond seat which is just a larger version of the diamond seat.

Aer Lingus uses the same seat and can be found on their 752 and A321LR


Is the Diamond seat on UA’s 789’s a regular or Super Diamond seat? I have noticed that the Diamond seat used on UA’s 789’s are a bit updated vs the others (764, 757 etc) with the seat controls moved to the rear of the cocktail table. I think they look a bit nicer, but my elbow is constantly hitting the controls on the new version and in the middle of dinner, my seat suddenly starts reclining or something else starts moving.

IMHO: the Diamond seat is comfortable and the small self above your shoulder is just enough for your essentials. I do think the seat’s major design flaw is: because it is NOT an all aisle seat, and I’m a window person, there is no handle bar to help you step over the sleeping stranger next to you. Grabbing the back of the shell of the seat in front is not enough or even possible. A zillion years back when virtually no airline had “all aisle access” in J, TAM had a seat that was not very attractive, but did have padded handle bars. My legs are long enough for me to step over a sleeping seat mate without disturbing them, but I do need something to hold onto! I know there are better J seats than Polaris, but for a 6 to 18 hour flight (especially an odd number, fwd facing) Polaris seat is near perfect for a J seat. It truly is a “businessFirst” seat. It ain’t First, but better than previous generations of J.

All of UA's Diamond seats are the regular version. Super Diamonds do not have seat mates and are an All Aisle Access, reverse herringbone (seats face the windows, not the aisle) style of seat. I believe that AA uses both the regular Diamond for J and SuperDiamond for F on their transcontinental A321's, for comparison sake.

I do agree with you though, I love the Diamond, especially when I'm flying with my wife. As a stomach sleeper, I need more space for my arms around my pillow, and I really prefer the Diamond seat to a lot of other J seats I have tried. I have not tried the new Polaris seat yet, so I don't know whether they are an improvement in space, but the Diamond seats are good for storage. The old IPTE seats were abysmal for storage, and I could not sleep with my arm under my pillow on them. I really hate that seat.
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876UA is back at IAH. Anyone seen any photos?


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Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:11 pm

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What is EFFECTIVITY?


Effectivity is the aircraft that are equipped or have the item.

LLAR - Lower Level Aircrew Rest

OHAR - Over Head Aircrew Rest


Do the last 4 77E (-224) have a different OHAR facility? IIRC those came factory-installed and the others were retrofit, but anything else? The pilot rest facility is the same on all -224ER I believe (bunk port side, aft of FD).


The last 4 have the access door open the opposite direction from the first 18.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:15 pm

HKG
0005 in for Polaris
0020 in for Polaris
6667 in for Polaris
6668 in for Polaris
0052 in for MX
6457 in for MX

XMN
2894 in for Polaris
4871 Storage
4875 Storage
4877 Storage Will enter after 4876 is complete

IAH
4876 Conformity Ck then AMA

AMA
0249 Paint
4249 Paint
0106 Paint
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:18 pm

Why is N876UA going back to AMA?
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:21 pm

Runway28L wrote:
Why is N876UA going back to AMA?


Might have been a old update. Just showing in IAH for a Conformity Ck now.....

Left AMA on the 22nd
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:40 pm

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:53 pm

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876UA is back at IAH. Anyone seen any photos?


4876 is scheduled to go tyo AMA.

Its scheduled to go BACK to AMA? Why might that be? It hasn’t left IAH since arriving a couple days ago; presume Tech Ops is giving it a final inspection before release into first UA service.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:56 pm

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Wow, I think this new livery really suits this short aircraft. It looks great on the 319. I wonder what that means for the 77W. We'll see soon enough.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:36 pm

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Looking good !
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:13 pm

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The Diamond seats that UA uses on their 752, 763, 764, 788, 789, 772 are used by a lot of airlines. although an old design, its a very popular seat. There the super diamond seat which is just a larger version of the diamond seat.

Aer Lingus uses the same seat and can be found on their 752 and A321LR


Is the Diamond seat on UA’s 789’s a regular or Super Diamond seat? I have noticed that the Diamond seat used on UA’s 789’s are a bit updated vs the others (764, 757 etc) with the seat controls moved to the rear of the cocktail table. I think they look a bit nicer, but my elbow is constantly hitting the controls on the new version and in the middle of dinner, my seat suddenly starts reclining or something else starts moving.

IMHO: the Diamond seat is comfortable and the small self above your shoulder is just enough for your essentials. I do think the seat’s major design flaw is: because it is NOT an all aisle seat, and I’m a window person, there is no handle bar to help you step over the sleeping stranger next to you. Grabbing the back of the shell of the seat in front is not enough or even possible. A zillion years back when virtually no airline had “all aisle access” in J, TAM had a seat that was not very attractive, but did have padded handle bars. My legs are long enough for me to step over a sleeping seat mate without disturbing them, but I do need something to hold onto! I know there are better J seats than Polaris, but for a 6 to 18 hour flight (especially an odd number, fwd facing) Polaris seat is near perfect for a J seat. It truly is a “businessFirst” seat. It ain’t First, but better than previous generations of J.

All of UA's Diamond seats are the regular version. Super Diamonds do not have seat mates and are an All Aisle Access, reverse herringbone (seats face the windows, not the aisle) style of seat. I believe that AA uses both the regular Diamond for J and SuperDiamond for F on their transcontinental A321's, for comparison sake.

I do agree with you though, I love the Diamond, especially when I'm flying with my wife. As a stomach sleeper, I need more space for my arms around my pillow, and I really prefer the Diamond seat to a lot of other J seats I have tried. I have not tried the new Polaris seat yet, so I don't know whether they are an improvement in space, but the Diamond seats are good for storage. The old IPTE seats were abysmal for storage, and I could not sleep with my arm under my pillow on them. I really hate that seat.



The diamond seat is a great seat and for an old design, its extremely comfortable. The only think i find annoying about the diamond seat is having turn your body around just access the plugs, usb, and the headphone jack. If you get a window seat, have fun getting up to use to the bathroom without waking up your neighbor.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:15 pm

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That paint job looks amazing on the A319!!!! gives the plane some life and color.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:55 pm

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That paint job looks amazing on the A319!!!! gives the plane some life and color.

Also, seeing on a former UA plane really shows off the joining of the CO and UA rising blue brands. This is honestly the livery they should have introduced from the start. It reminds me of when US and HP merged and their joined livery was one of the best looking in North America, and really celebrated the best of both brand's liveries.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:45 pm

xxcr wrote:
intotheair wrote:



That paint job looks amazing on the A319!!!! gives the plane some life and color.


I must admit the new livery is growing on me and it looks good on this A319, can't wait to see it on a widebody like the 77W or 78J. We should get our first glimpse of a 77W in the new livery in a few weeks, UA is schedule to take delivery of a 77W in the second half of November 2019 and again in December 2019 so perhaps someone at Boeing can get some pre-delivery photos once the plane is painted.

Back to the N876UA for the next 7 days the aircraft is scheduled to remain at IAH maintenance work continues however if the current routing holds and keep in mind we are 7 days out on September 29 N876UA will enter revenue service on that day she will leave IAH late morning and visit BNA, ORD, CMH, ORD, LAS, ORD (arrives on the 30).
As we get closer to the 29th I will try to remember to update the current routing just incase there are any changes between now and then.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:44 am

We got another 767-300 heading to PVG tomorrow. Any idea what we are doing sending these planes over to PVG now?
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:59 am

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In case you missed it:


Love the blue areas. Don't like the livery, particularity on the A319 here. Looks half-baked with a glaring white/light gray fuselage and piecemeal blue tail and engines. A rising blue style with a globe would have been so much better. The fuselage badly needs a blue base. It had less pop, but the old livery looked more professionally designed.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:51 am

jayunited wrote:
xxcr wrote:
intotheair wrote:



That paint job looks amazing on the A319!!!! gives the plane some life and color.


I must admit the new livery is growing on me and it looks good on this A319, can't wait to see it on a widebody like the 77W or 78J. We should get our first glimpse of a 77W in the new livery in a few weeks, UA is schedule to take delivery of a 77W in the second half of November 2019 and again in December 2019 so perhaps someone at Boeing can get some pre-delivery photos once the plane is painted.

Back to the N876UA for the next 7 days the aircraft is scheduled to remain at IAH maintenance work continues however if the current routing holds and keep in mind we are 7 days out on September 29 N876UA will enter revenue service on that day she will leave IAH late morning and visit BNA, ORD, CMH, ORD, LAS, ORD (arrives on the 30).
As we get closer to the 29th I will try to remember to update the current routing just incase there doesn’t are any changes between now and then.




It is ok, but looks “meh” kinda cheap and generic. If the gold had to go it could have been replaced with silver or pewter or something. Assorted shades of blue is boring AF.

(No that doesn’t mean Air France in this context)
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:06 am

The lack of contrast between the white
upper fuselage and pale grey underbelly
gives it a ‘washed out’ and very plain appearance, disappointing


And the billboard titles are awful, really detracts from the livery with a tacky appearance


Should have used the smaller titles employed on their regional partner aircraft
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:00 pm

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752 N14106 AMA paint got cxld.


Doesn't seem so.....



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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:04 pm

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It is ok, but looks “meh” kinda cheap and generic. If the gold had to go it could have been replaced with silver or pewter or something. Assorted shades of blue is boring AF.

(No that doesn’t mean Air France in this context)


Agree. The gold on the tail would've looked much better, too plain now. Like the billboard UNITED, and blue engine cowl.
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UA to Fly 77W SFO-SYD

Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:09 pm

This may be covered in other threads already, but UA will be switching to the 77W from the 789 on the SFO-SYD route for the Southern Hemisphere summer. I wonder if the newly signed QF/AA JV will see AA switch LAX-SYD back to the 77W from the 789.
 
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Re: UA to Fly 77W SFO-SYD

Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:20 pm

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This may be covered in other threads already, but UA will be switching to the 77W from the 789 on the SFO-SYD route for the Southern Hemisphere summer. I wonder if the newly signed QF/AA JV will see AA switch LAX-SYD back to the 77W from the 789.


The UA move makes sense. They have an ever-growing fleet of 77Ws, and given they are pulling them off routes like SFO-HKG and EWR-HKG (and even SFO-AKL, which we recently learned will be going 78J this winter), they need to find worthwhile places to redeploy those assets. SFO-SYD makes as much sense as anywhere in the Southern Summer.
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Re: UA to Fly 77W SFO-SYD

Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:49 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
This may be covered in other threads already, but UA will be switching to the 77W from the 789 on the SFO-SYD route for the Southern Hemisphere summer. I wonder if the newly signed QF/AA JV will see AA switch LAX-SYD back to the 77W from the 789.


When UA pulled the 744s and then the 77Es from SYD leadership said we were loosing money on both our LAX and SFO routes. Later on it was stated in a town hall that for UA the 789 was the perfect year around aircraft for these routes. Right before the announcement of IAH-SYD UA stated our Australia operations werer finally profitable after years of heavy loses.

For years UA has resisted upguaging SFO-SYD during the Southern Hemisphere summer season even though there has been strong demand. I guess they finally feel confident that the market can support the seasonal additional 98 seats per night withough diluting yield on this route that is in addition to the seasonal SFO-MEL which will be 3x weekly.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:02 pm

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