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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:10 pm

The CRJ-550 got its FAA certification today, so I guess we can expect them being used for operation very soon.
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Re: UA to Fly 77W SFO-SYD

Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:05 pm

[quote="jayunited"][quote="Cointrin330"]This may be covered in other threads already, but UA will be switching to the 77W from the 789 on the SFO-SYD route for the Southern Hemisphere summer. I wonder if the newly signed QF/AA JV will see AA switch LAX-SYD back to the 77W from the 789.[/quote]

When UA pulled the 744s and then the 77Es from SYD leadership said we were loosing money on both our LAX and SFO routes. Later on it was stated in a town hall that for UA the 789 was the perfect year around aircraft for these routes. Right before the announcement of IAH-SYD UA stated our Australia operations werer finally profitable after years of heavy loses.

For years UA has resisted upguaging SFO-SYD during the Southern Hemisphere summer season even though there has been strong demand. I guess they finally feel confident that the market can support the seasonal additional 98 seats per night withough diluting yield on this route that is in addition to the seasonal SFO-MEL which will be 3x weekly.[/quote]

The 789 is the perfect year-round aircraft, but the new approach to wildly swinging capacity between summer and winter is the perfect year-round strategy IMHO.

This (northern) summer United have been down to 2x 789 to SYD (daily SFO, 4x IAH, 3x LAX). For peak southern summer they will be 1x 77W and 2x 789, not to mention the addition of MEL-SFO. Think about that for a second, United will fly 350 more daily seats for the upcoming winter than they did this summer!

Australia-US is a fairly seasonal market and demand spikes in southern summer. Reducing capacity in northern summer is therefore logical as it is low season to Australia and peak season everywhere else. Aircraft will almost certainly make more more money on TATL than Australia in summer, whereas in the winter Australia is one of the few markets where travel spikes while the rest of the world slows down.

This is an incredibly smart approach to the market IMHO as it is moving capacity around the network on a seasonal basis to maximise profit across the network as a whole.
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Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:17 pm

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:42 pm

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The CRJ-550 got its FAA certification today, so I guess we can expect them being used for operation very soon.


Nice! I wonder if we'll see some GoJet flights that are currently loaded as CR7s flip to the CR5 with this or next week's schedule load... Routes like ORD-XNA and ORD-CVG.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:47 pm

Why have some 319’s been in GYR for almost a year awaiting induction, however 4876 came straight over from China and is about to go straight into service?
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:11 pm

319 additional unit:

N876UA, ex China Southern B-6040, first UA revenue flight 1210/29Sep. Globe Evolution livery & new 12F/36E+/78Y configuration.
Not sure if GYR is doing Induction and how those units will be inducted. CZ units went through Induction in XMN.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:40 pm

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Why have some 319’s been in GYR for almost a year awaiting induction, however 4876 came straight over from China and is about to go straight into service?

It may well be that UA wants to get all the CZ frames sorted first. Given they now have ..12(?)-ish.. in service they are a known quantity and have the conversion/induction process down pat. Those at GYR are a different matter. Who knows what they are going to find when they start work on them.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:03 am

UAX Update:

CR2:
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504: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry at STL
154: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry at STL, re-registered as N536GJ
157: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry at STL
159: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry at STL
161: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry at STL, re-registered as N540GJ
163: converted and in new livery, awaiting service entry at STL
162: in new livery, at TUS for interior mod, re-registered as N538GJ
164: in new livery, at TUS for interior mod, re-registered at N543GJ
167: at AMA for paint, not yet converted
168: at STL awaiting paint and mod
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Re: UA to Fly 77W SFO-SYD

Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:44 pm

RyanairGuru wrote:
jayunited wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
This may be covered in other threads already, but UA will be switching to the 77W from the 789 on the SFO-SYD route for the Southern Hemisphere summer. I wonder if the newly signed QF/AA JV will see AA switch LAX-SYD back to the 77W from the 789.


When UA pulled the 744s and then the 77Es from SYD leadership said we were loosing money on both our LAX and SFO routes. Later on it was stated in a town hall that for UA the 789 was the perfect year around aircraft for these routes. Right before the announcement of IAH-SYD UA stated our Australia operations werer finally profitable after years of heavy loses.

For years UA has resisted upguaging SFO-SYD during the Southern Hemisphere summer season even though there has been strong demand. I guess they finally feel confident that the market can support the seasonal additional 98 seats per night withough diluting yield on this route that is in addition to the seasonal SFO-MEL which will be 3x weekly.


The 789 is the perfect year-round aircraft, but the new approach to wildly swinging capacity between summer and winter is the perfect year-round strategy IMHO.

This (northern) summer United have been down to 2x 789 to SYD (daily SFO, 4x IAH, 3x LAX). For peak southern summer they will be 1x 77W and 2x 789, not to mention the addition of MEL-SFO. Think about that for a second, United will fly 350 more daily seats for the upcoming winter than they did this summer!

Australia-US is a fairly seasonal market and demand spikes in southern summer. Reducing capacity in northern summer is therefore logical as it is low season to Australia and peak season everywhere else. Aircraft will almost certainly make more more money on TATL than Australia in summer, whereas in the winter Australia is one of the few markets where travel spikes while the rest of the world slows down.

This is an incredibly smart approach to the market IMHO as it is moving capacity around the network on a seasonal basis to maximise profit across the network as a whole.


Personally, I’m thrilled to hear this news! I’ve been to Sydney 3 times. Each time on a UNITED 747 and had been upgraded to First Class. Each of my 3 trips were quite spaced apart, so the first one had the first version of the lie flat seat, (with the cassette tapes) they were really a strange design, where did they come from as I “never” saw another seat that looked remotely similar. The seat part was ok looking and comfortable enough, but they had teal upholstery, a taupe velvety surface on the outer surface of the shell, then this freestanding “thing” that had the footrest that was a very dark taupe color, with other versions of warm grays and cool grays and tan, with brushed aluminum trim. It was just a very odd design and color scheme that was so NOT United?
Then the 2 other times were in the Pentagram Global First seat, which, when launched were (IMHO) very good looking seats and extremely comfortable.

I always recall those SYD flights as “feeling” extremely long, longer than the actual flight time even though
I could not imagine doing it in a Diamond seat knowing that the aircraft flying somewhere alongside us had a much better “all aisle access”, and pretty seat.
SO THUMBS UP ON THE 77W (but when UA returns to a 789 will it be a refurbished one?) I strongly believe once Aussies experience Polaris seats and lounges, once word of mouth starts getting out, it will do A LOT for United’s local reputation! LAST: I think United should build a smaller but equally as nice Polaris Lounge at SYD. United REALLY needs to work on their brand perception in Australia. Every time I went and mentioned I had flown United, I would hear
“why the hell-ga do that mate, United is the worst!”

Last, I do vividly recall the Red Carpet Club! YUCK! It felt like a 1980’s trade show booth. However I did once see that Richard Quest was there, and with his boyfriend. (Slight tangent coming!) It had never occurred to me he was gay before? I am gay and believe I’ve got very well tuned “Gaydar” but since I had always felt he was “SCREAMING” at me whenever I saw him on CNN International, I’d race to change the channel.

Then Richard Quest went from being just a Financial Reporter to Airline & Aviation reporter? After that change, I started seeing him on some of my other United flights??? Once to Rio on United, Rio flights often have a disproportionate amount of gay men but UA is far from a leader in that market (although I love the SDU option) Then more than 1 Oscar Munoz interview - I guess my question is: Does Mr Quest have a soft spot for United? Given his job I would assume he has the ability to fly any airline he fancies?
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:04 pm

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Why have some 319’s been in GYR for almost a year awaiting induction, however 4876 came straight over from China and is about to go straight into service?


I'm not exactly sure why those 5 aircraft are just sitting at GYR but from what I can tell it doesn't seem like induction will begin until 2020 on any of those frames.

However on the flip side UA has 6 frames at XMN going through induction right now, another 6 ex-China Southern frames are stored at either SHE or CAN waiting to be flown to XMN.
 
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Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:52 pm

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:36 pm

jayunited wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Why have some 319’s been in GYR for almost a year awaiting induction, however 4876 came straight over from China and is about to go straight into service?


I'm not exactly sure why those 5 aircraft are just sitting at GYR but from what I can tell it doesn't seem like induction will begin until 2020 on any of those frames.

However on the flip side UA has 6 frames at XMN going through induction right now, another 6 ex-China Southern frames are stored at either SHE or CAN waiting to be flown to XMN.

I speculated on one possible reason in reply #2357 above.... it seems a logical possibility :bouncy:
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Were Any United Aircraft Delivered in The 2004-2010 livery

Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:58 pm

Hi everyone, I was just wondering were there any UA planes delivered in the Rising Blue (2004-2010) livery?
 
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Hi everyone, I was just wondering were there any UA planes delivered in the Rising Blue (2004-2010) livery?


Nope
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Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:22 pm

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Re: Were Any United Aircraft Delivered in The 2004-2010 livery

Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:39 pm

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Hi everyone, I was just wondering were there any UA planes delivered in the Rising Blue (2004-2010) livery?


Nope

How come
 
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Re: Were Any United Aircraft Delivered in The 2004-2010 livery

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UA857 wrote:
[threeid][/threeid]
CONTACREW wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Hi everyone, I was just wondering were there any UA planes delivered in the Rising Blue (2004-2010) livery?


Nope

How come

Because of the Bankruptcy, and Glen Tilton, United did not receive any new planes (...after 2002? I think). Instead of new planes, they retired 733's and 735's. They brought in lots of CRJ's, so maybe some of those were delivered in rising blue, but regional planes floated from airline to airline in that era, it's hard to pin point where they started. It's common that companies like to introduce a new brand after a bankruptcy, but United just didn't have a direction other than branding.
 
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Re: Were Any United Aircraft Delivered in The 2004-2010 livery

Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:09 am

CONTACREW wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Hi everyone, I was just wondering were there any UA planes delivered in the Rising Blue (2004-2010) livery?


Nope

What an insane piece of information. I mean there were a ton of RJs delivered, but no mainline. Are there any other instances of this in history? One of the shortest lived paint schemes was the Ron Allen DL scheme, and they got a ton of 737s during that time.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:15 am

Many of the CRJ-700s and all of the E170s were delivered new with the Rising Blue colors. Starting in 2005, they also had the "explus" branding, which was used to signify the then-new UAX service with F and E+.




In terms of mainline, correct, no new deliveries with the new colors. By the merger, about two thirds of the mainline fleet were in the Rising Blue colors. A lot of the 737 classics did get the new paint before they were retired. Many of them were bouncing around with various Shuttle liveries, so their painting was expedited. Shuttle was officially dead by 2001, and Rising Blue debuted in 2004. The 737 classics were then all retired by the end of 2008. Similarly, the former Tedcraft A320s were quickly painted into Rising Blue in 2008/2009 after Ted died, and then they were all painted again soon after into the globe colors. Funny how history repeats itself...

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:16 pm

KLMatSJC wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Hi everyone, I was just wondering were there any UA planes delivered in the Rising Blue (2004-2010) livery?


Nope

What an insane piece of information. I mean there were a ton of RJs delivered, but no mainline. Are there any other instances of this in history? One of the shortest lived paint schemes was the Ron Allen DL scheme, and they got a ton of 737s during that time.


That’s part of the reason UA needed to merge with CO, their fleet, especially domestic, was really hurting relying heavily on regional jets and old 757s.

Between 2002 and 2010 CO took delivery of 78 aircraft, 738, 739, 753, 764, 772.


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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:59 pm

The fleet updates, fleet status, and repaint status posts at the start of this thread have been updated.

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:47 am

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Between 2002 and 2010 CO took delivery of 78 aircraft, 738, 739, 753, 764, 772.


That's crazy, it felt like they were getting so many planes in those days. 78 over 8 years seems like nothing compared with the number of planes the big 3 are getting since their mergers.
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:23 am

cosyr wrote:
STT757 wrote:
Between 2002 and 2010 CO took delivery of 78 aircraft, 738, 739, 753, 764, 772.


That's crazy, it felt like they were getting so many planes in those days. 78 over 8 years seems like nothing compared with the number of planes the big 3 are getting since their mergers.


Yes, I agree! CO had TV spots that featured “a new airplane delivered every 10 minutes” (kidding) but the take away was that Continental was getting many, many new deliveries of new 737s. I basically liked Continental during its time of glory in NYC. People were almost extremists about CO as if they were the only fabulous airline on Earth. I would argue with workmates who refused to fly UA, DL or AA internationally even though CO was not an approved corporate airline. I flew them to Brazil, Asia a number of times just to appease others- but couldn’t take the BF seats, so while UA was not as pretty on the inside, a UA 747 to Tokyo or 767 to GRU was FAR more comfortable. Plus while the food was better on CO, UA made getting into F so easy for their FFs, despite UA’s issues, they seriously did not feel like their customer service was that bad. I never-ever met a surly FA etc. Although nCO did an awesome job at brand communications.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:07 pm

cosyr wrote:
STT757 wrote:
Between 2002 and 2010 CO took delivery of 78 aircraft, 738, 739, 753, 764, 772.


That's crazy, it felt like they were getting so many planes in those days. 78 over 8 years seems like nothing compared with the number of planes the big 3 are getting since their mergers.


From 1997 to 2001 CO took delivery of around 200 frames... 737-500/700/800/900, 757-200/300, 767-200/400, 777-200. Post-9/11 lots of orders were deferred and/or canceled.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:51 pm

Random question.

Which UA hub gets a daily visit from every plane in the fleet?

im assuming ORD or EWR???
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:54 pm

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76L HiJ conversion N667UA test hop Sept 26 should be out soon.


Looks like it’s got its slot approval to leave on the 5th. Can anyone confirm that?
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:57 pm

xxcr wrote:
Random question.

Which UA hub gets a daily visit from every plane in the fleet?

im assuming ORD or EWR???

ORD does not get 787 ... the answer to your question would be EWR/IAD.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:07 pm

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xxcr wrote:
Random question.

Which UA hub gets a daily visit from every plane in the fleet?

im assuming ORD or EWR???

ORD does not get 787 ... the answer to your question would be EWR/IAD.


IAD doesnt get the 77W, so they are out!
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:26 pm

xxcr wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
xxcr wrote:
Random question.

Which UA hub gets a daily visit from every plane in the fleet?

im assuming ORD or EWR???

ORD does not get 787 ... the answer to your question would be EWR/IAD.


IAD doesnt get the 77W, so they are out!

Okay if we’re talking about every variant then there is no hub that receives them all.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:34 pm

Scarebus34 wrote:
xxcr wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
ORD does not get 787 ... the answer to your question would be EWR/IAD.


IAD doesnt get the 77W, so they are out!

Okay if we’re talking about every variant then there is no hub that receives them all.


Correct,

EWR doesn’t get the 753 or 788, SFO doesn’t get the 764.


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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:03 pm

Scarebus34 wrote:
xxcr wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
ORD does not get 787 ... the answer to your question would be EWR/IAD.


IAD doesnt get the 77W, so they are out!

Okay if we’re talking about every variant then there is no hub that receives them all.


ahh kk, but if we were to talk about a hub that receives the most variants....then EWR takes the cake.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:33 pm

xxcr wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
xxcr wrote:

IAD doesnt get the 77W, so they are out!

Okay if we’re talking about every variant then there is no hub that receives them all.


ahh kk, but if we were to talk about a hub that receives the most variants....then EWR takes the cake.


SFO gets everything but the 764 just a bit more variety than EWR.
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:21 pm

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xxcr wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
Okay if we’re talking about every variant then there is no hub that receives them all.


ahh kk, but if we were to talk about a hub that receives the most variants....then EWR takes the cake.


SFO gets everything but the 764 just a bit more variety than EWR.


SFO does not have daily schedule 763 service either, the 763 shows up as a equipment sub for a 752/3 or it shows up for scheduled maintenance.

This means there are no hub that have daily schedule flights of every variant within the UA fleet.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:22 pm

United1 wrote:
xxcr wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
Okay if we’re talking about every variant then there is no hub that receives them all.


ahh kk, but if we were to talk about a hub that receives the most variants....then EWR takes the cake.


SFO gets everything but the 764 just a bit more variety than EWR.


What route does the 763 fly on to SFO? Or the 737-700?
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:26 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
United1 wrote:
xxcr wrote:

ahh kk, but if we were to talk about a hub that receives the most variants....then EWR takes the cake.


SFO gets everything but the 764 just a bit more variety than EWR.


What route does the 763 fly on to SFO? Or the 737-700?



I was going to say, SFO doesnt get the the 763 or 764 anymore. No 737-700 either. I think SFO and EWR are the only 2 airports that see the most varients.
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:32 pm

4876 visited DEN yesterday. Livery looks great on the airbus.

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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:43 pm

jayunited wrote:
United1 wrote:
xxcr wrote:

ahh kk, but if we were to talk about a hub that receives the most variants....then EWR takes the cake.


SFO gets everything but the 764 just a bit more variety than EWR.


SFO does not have daily schedule 763 service either, the 763 shows up as a equipment sub for a 752/3 or it shows up for scheduled maintenance.

This means there are no hub that have daily schedule flights of every variant within the UA fleet.


Thought there was one 763 on the schedule this winter in and out of IAD...oh well guess I remembered it wrong.
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:53 pm

xxcr wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
United1 wrote:

SFO gets everything but the 764 just a bit more variety than EWR.


What route does the 763 fly on to SFO? Or the 737-700?



I was going to say, SFO doesnt get the the 763 or 764 anymore. No 737-700 either. I think SFO and EWR are the only 2 airports that see the most varients.


EWR right now does not get 753, 788, or 789 on the mainline front. The 789 will be coming back soon to EWR. 753 used to be at EWR and 789 did have a run at EWR in 2016 doing EWR-LAX routes with legacy united crews.

On the Express front: No CRJ aircraft. All express operations are ERJ145 and ERJ170/175.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:20 am

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On the Express front: No CRJ aircraft. All express operations are ERJ145 and ERJ170/175.


Not for long... CRJ-550s are coming to EWR this winter.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:03 am

Anyone know if 763 n657ua is being modded to 76L or the 30 seat Polaris? It’s been in hkg for 6 weeks seems like a long time if it’s just for maint
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:49 am

My hopeful guess is 76L. 4 of 7 that were to be retired are sked to become 76L.
N657UA has been in one day short or N667UA and they both appear to be taking test hops.
Also, N652UA and N656UA are in XMN for maint - if N657UA is just maint, then why in HKG.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:28 am

xxcr wrote:
Random question.

Which UA hub gets a daily visit from every plane in the fleet?

im assuming ORD or EWR???

None! Every fleet type? Maybe.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:40 pm

LGeneReese wrote:
jayunited wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Why have some 319’s been in GYR for almost a year awaiting induction, however 4876 came straight over from China and is about to go straight into service?


I'm not exactly sure why those 5 aircraft are just sitting at GYR but from what I can tell it doesn't seem like induction will begin until 2020 on any of those frames.

However on the flip side UA has 6 frames at XMN going through induction right now, another 6 ex-China Southern frames are stored at either SHE or CAN waiting to be flown to XMN.

I speculated on one possible reason in reply #2357 above.... it seems a logical possibility :bouncy:
Speaking of China Southern, former CZ, N876UA, made its first official UA revenue flights today IAHMEX, MEXSFO, SFOSNA.



They are going to LCQ for Heavy Checks and refurbished to UA interior, at the beginning of 2020. 2 Reasons i believe. 1. We have LCQ fully booked with our own A320/A319 scheduled Checks.

2. And since these Aircraft are coming from a different carrier other than CZ. Then I believe it all has to do with the FAA acceptance with these Aircraft. At the beginning of the CZ Aircraft retrofits. We had to do them Stateside, as any part on the aircraft that was replaced. That was not registered in the FAA database. Had to be replaced with one that had been registered. Even if that part was perfectly fine. I think that is what is happening here with the NL (Shaheen) Aircraft. Since then i think we got the XMN facility approved to do these CZ Aircraft. .

I could be wrong on this. But I think that is what it is.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:28 am

I had a FA staffing question that crossed my mind as I was on the DEN-SFO 777 flight tonight for what feels like the millionth time this year. What is the staffing difference between, say, an ordinary A320/737 on a flight like SFO-DEN, a 777A on the same flight, and a 77E on SFO-LHR? Are there as many FAs on the 777 on SFO-DEN as there are SFO-LHR?
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:57 am

intotheair wrote:
I had a FA staffing question that crossed my mind as I was on the DEN-SFO 777 flight tonight for what feels like the millionth time this year. What is the staffing difference between, say, an ordinary A320/737 on a flight like SFO-DEN, a 777A on the same flight, and a 77E on SFO-LHR? Are there as many FAs on the 777 on SFO-DEN as there are SFO-LHR?


Most domestic A319/320 and 737-700 flights have 3 or 4 FA's, 737-800/900s have 4 or 5 FA's. The 77A's or a 77E operating a domestic leg normally have 8 or 9 FA's. A 77A on an international flight has 9 or 10 FA's, the 77Es operating an international flight the staffing levels range from 10 to 11 FAs. For the 77W operating an international flight their are either 12 or 13 working FA's.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:21 pm

jayunited wrote:
737-800/900s have 4 or 5 FA's.


I haven’t seen a 5th FA on a 737-900 since the Continental days.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:39 pm

codc10 wrote:
jayunited wrote:
737-800/900s have 4 or 5 FA's.


I haven’t seen a 5th FA on a 737-900 since the Continental days.

I have. It seems there are some flights where one FA basically stays in the forward galley, one stays in the rear galley, and 3 others serve. This is just anecdotal, though.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:04 pm

codc10 wrote:
jayunited wrote:
737-800/900s have 4 or 5 FA's.


I haven’t seen a 5th FA on a 737-900 since the Continental days.


I don't know all the factors that go into deciding when the 5th FA is added but I've seen 5 working FA's. In most cases I've seen the 5th FA's added to cross country flights at times they are added on flight from California to Hawaii flights. The normal staffing is 4 just like the normal staffing for an A319/320 and 737-700 is 3 FA's but there are times where you will find 4 FA's especially on the A320 and 737-700s, I don't know what triggers the additional FA but their are times when they are there and they are also on the schedule. Trust me I'm not confusing the additional working FA with an FA jump-seater.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:54 pm

I have a question: Why have the 737-700’s been fitted with the new First seat, and not the 737-8 and 737-900?
I am actually shocked that I didn’t notice, but have the 737-700 (which is the same as a 73G, right?) also been refurbished in other ways too? Eg; carpeting, bulkhead design?

I’m just really surprised that UA has done NOTHING to the 737-800, yet they are everywhere! IMHO, they are among the neediest of UA’s fleet in terms of looking old and tired. Compare the 738 interiors to that of the Airbus fleet (especially the newest refitted Airbus) and the contrast is astounding. I can understand why the previous UA Airbus did not get the CZ full treatment as the silver & blue bulkheads are not that far off from the new design, but the 738 & 739 are very dated, boring old.
One day when all the MAX’s are cleared to fly, those old 737’s are REALLY going to be apparently bad to any UA FF.

Last one: I love the way United’s NEW First Class seat reclines, where the butt cushion slides forward as the seat back reclines. It makes a huge difference when you recline vs just the back moving back a little bit. What other airlines use this reclining feature? I believe UA calls it “Articulated Recline”
To Most the Sky is The Limit, For me, the Sky is Home.
 
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Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:16 pm

Maybe a FA can chime in, but my understanding is that “load” flight attendant positions were eliminated long ago, such that staffing is 3 for A319/320/73G and 4 for 738/739, except for special circumstances. Do Hawaii turns get an extra position?

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