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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:25 am

Does KU have an international partner they cooperate closely with or are they out on their own? TK or maybe one of the Persian Gulf airlines?
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:11 pm

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Does KU have an international partner they cooperate closely with or are they out on their own? TK or maybe one of the Persian Gulf airlines?

At the moment KU has code share agreements with TK & MEA
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:45 am

Monty1988 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Does KU have an international partner they cooperate closely with or are they out on their own? TK or maybe one of the Persian Gulf airlines?

At the moment KU has code share agreements with TK & MEA


Тhat's all? Don't they cooperate with a European carrier like Lufthansa?
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:40 pm

Blerg wrote:
Monty1988 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Does KU have an international partner they cooperate closely with or are they out on their own? TK or maybe one of the Persian Gulf airlines?

At the moment KU has code share agreements with TK & MEA


Тhat's all? Don't they cooperate with a European carrier like Lufthansa?


If I remember correctly, LH did do some consultation for KU in the early 2000's and gave recommendations to the airline. But as far as cooperation and code sharing, I don't think they do.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:56 pm

Gulf Air is set to announce new destinations for 2020
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:23 pm

-Saudia receives the second Boeing 787-10

-Saudia to operate JED-AMS in 2020

-SaudiGulf Airlines plans to launch four times weekly RUH-AMM service, effective 07-Nov-2019.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:20 pm

Blerg wrote:
The other day I saw on FR24 that some airline (can't remember now) flew over Syria for a bit. Is the entire airspace closed off for traffic? On the other hand, what's going on with Iran, is its airspace fully used right now or are some airlines still avoiding it?


MEA is flying over there. Everyone else seems to be avoiding it. I think, being a neighbour of Syria, Lebanon perhaps has better access to the information required in order to be able to make that decision. Also, being right next to Syria and having Israel to the south which they can not overfly, avoiding Syrian airspace would have a huge cost for them.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:30 pm

From 16th January, Royal Air Maroc will be flying from Casablanca to Beijing Daxing Airport, with a 787 and a flight time of 13 hours. I suppose they might get some feed to/from West Africa and some business and tourism traffic in both directions.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:59 pm

peterinlisbon wrote:
Blerg wrote:
The other day I saw on FR24 that some airline (can't remember now) flew over Syria for a bit. Is the entire airspace closed off for traffic? On the other hand, what's going on with Iran, is its airspace fully used right now or are some airlines still avoiding it?


MEA is flying over there. Everyone else seems to be avoiding it. I think, being a neighbour of Syria, Lebanon perhaps has better access to the information required in order to be able to make that decision. Also, being right next to Syria and having Israel to the south which they can not overfly, avoiding Syrian airspace would have a huge cost for them.


Qatar Airways too fly over Syria.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:35 am

Jazeera adds three new destinations from Kuwait: Osh (two weekly), Kathmandu (daily) and Karachi (one weekly).

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -nov-2019/
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:46 pm

Saudia is expected to announce a new plane order at Dubai Airshow.
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:48 pm

Oman Air to unveil a new livery.
 
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Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:33 am

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Oman Air to unveil a new livery.


It's about time! I can't stand their current livery, it's too outdated. Any idea when the reveal will take place?
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:16 am

Jazeera will be adding Alain, Dammam, Abha and Chittagong

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.arabia ... fit-to-53m
 
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Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:55 pm

MEA will accelerate the delivery of A321neos and A339s. The new plan has 9 321s delivered in 2020, which implies the retirement of the 7 older A320s. In 2021 2 A321s and all 4 A339s will be delivered, leaving just the XLRs expected in 2023/4.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... le-461625/
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Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:11 am

-Saudi Arabia's GACA plans to introduce a SAR10 (USD2.6) airport tax for domestic passengers on both departures and arrivals to fund infrastructure projects, effective 01-Jan-2020

-Russia's Federal Air Transport Agency (Rosaviatsiya) issued an order on the provision of permits to operate the following scheduled Middle East passenger and cargo services:
*Saudi Arabia: UTair Aviation: Makhachkala-Jeddah (three times weekly);
*UAE: Azur Air: Makhachkala-Dubai (weekly),
    Vladivostok-DUbai (weekly),
    Khabarovsk-Dubai (weekly),
    Saratov-Dubai (weekly),
    Ulyanovsk-Dubai (weekly)
    Anapa-Dubai (weekly).

-Nepal Airlines aims to commence Kathmandu-Riyadh service in Mar-2020.

-Malaysia Airlines announced its pilgrimage operation "Amal" signed an MoU with Tahira Air and Kawan International to commence chartered services and tours from China to Saudi Arabia via Kuala Lumpur.


-Kazakhstan's Civil Aviation Committee announced Kazakhstan's carriers are completing certification to operate scheduled services to Saudi Arabia.
*Air Astana plans to launch twice weekly Almaty-Madinah and Almaty-Jeddah services by the end of 2019.
*SCAT Airlines plans to launch weekly Almaty-Madinah and Almaty-Jeddah services from Dec-2019.
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:16 pm

Sir Tim Clark states that Emirates Premium Economy will debut at the ATM in April 2020
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:37 pm

ramzi wrote:
MEA will accelerate the delivery of A321neos and A339s. The new plan has 9 321s delivered in 2020, which implies the retirement of the 7 older A320s. In 2021 2 A321s and all 4 A339s will be delivered, leaving just the XLRs expected in 2023/4.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... le-461625/


This is slightly dated now, since the decision was made before the demonstrations and protests. Not sure if MEA would stick to that schedule, given the current financial and cash crisis.
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Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:03 pm

od-bwh wrote:
ramzi wrote:
MEA will accelerate the delivery of A321neos and A339s. The new plan has 9 321s delivered in 2020, which implies the retirement of the 7 older A320s. In 2021 2 A321s and all 4 A339s will be delivered, leaving just the XLRs expected in 2023/4.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... le-461625/


This is slightly dated now, since the decision was made before the demonstrations and protests. Not sure if MEA would stick to that schedule, given the current financial and cash crisis.


Through 28 days of protest zero ME flights have been impacted. Their profits are down only slightly year-on-year, mainly as a result of fuel prices. I would say there is no reason they would not stick to the schedule, they need the extra capacity as fast as they can get it, and I would guess they're pushing to get as many of the planes as possible before the summer season.
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Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:53 pm

ramzi wrote:
od-bwh wrote:
ramzi wrote:
MEA will accelerate the delivery of A321neos and A339s. The new plan has 9 321s delivered in 2020, which implies the retirement of the 7 older A320s. In 2021 2 A321s and all 4 A339s will be delivered, leaving just the XLRs expected in 2023/4.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... le-461625/


This is slightly dated now, since the decision was made before the demonstrations and protests. Not sure if MEA would stick to that schedule, given the current financial and cash crisis.


Through 28 days of protest zero ME flights have been impacted. Their profits are down only slightly year-on-year, mainly as a result of fuel prices. I would say there is no reason they would not stick to the schedule, they need the extra capacity as fast as they can get it, and I would guess they're pushing to get as many of the planes as possible before the summer season.


I'm not sure what your definition of an impact is. There's no grounds to cancel flights, and it's too soon to judge based on financial results. Travel plans are usually done in advance, not to mention that many visitors had to change their bookings when the protests broke out, which meant more money for MEA and other airlines as a result of those changes. Let's agree that people would think twice before planning any travels over the upcoming holidays. Also, Sep thru Nov are not typical peak travel months (inbound or outbound), so once again, the judgement is inaccurate.

Also, MEA is owned by BDL, which kind of, unofficially, declared a state of financial crisis. At the same time, Moody's downgraded Lebanon's credit rating. This would all take a toll on this. I hope not though. I'd still like to see MEA's new neo's sooner than later.
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:44 pm

od-bwh wrote:
ramzi wrote:
od-bwh wrote:

This is slightly dated now, since the decision was made before the demonstrations and protests. Not sure if MEA would stick to that schedule, given the current financial and cash crisis.


Through 28 days of protest zero ME flights have been impacted. Their profits are down only slightly year-on-year, mainly as a result of fuel prices. I would say there is no reason they would not stick to the schedule, they need the extra capacity as fast as they can get it, and I would guess they're pushing to get as many of the planes as possible before the summer season.


I'm not sure what your definition of an impact is. There's no grounds to cancel flights, and it's too soon to judge based on financial results. Travel plans are usually done in advance, not to mention that many visitors had to change their bookings when the protests broke out, which meant more money for MEA and other airlines as a result of those changes. Let's agree that people would think twice before planning any travels over the upcoming holidays. Also, Sep thru Nov are not typical peak travel months (inbound or outbound), so once again, the judgement is inaccurate.

Also, ME is owned by BDL, which kind of, unofficially, declared a state of financial crisis. At the same time, Moody's downgraded Lebanon's credit rating. This would all take a toll on this. I hope not though. I'd still like to see ME's new neo's sooner than later.


I would invite you to check flight availability on MEA for the holidays. They are doing better than they were this time last year. Yes, people changed their flights in October, all of those people still flew, and mostly changed because they could do it for free. Loads were still high for that time of year, I was personally on 4 flights, and 3 of them were almost full.

BDL owns ME but does not intervene in its management, so BDL's financial situation is actually not related to ME at all. To stay on topic, ME is not facing any struggles and have no reason to delay deliveries, the economic situation was the same before the October 17 revolution, ME was well aware of that when they accelerated the delivery schedule. Don't forget that a big part of ME's growth in the past few years has been Syrian travelers who drive mainly from Damascus to fly out of BEY due to the lack of an alternative. That situation does not look like it is going to change anytime soon.

I understand your skepticism, but all of the facts point the other way.
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:35 am

ramzi wrote:
od-bwh wrote:
ramzi wrote:

Through 28 days of protest zero ME flights have been impacted. Their profits are down only slightly year-on-year, mainly as a result of fuel prices. I would say there is no reason they would not stick to the schedule, they need the extra capacity as fast as they can get it, and I would guess they're pushing to get as many of the planes as possible before the summer season.


I'm not sure what your definition of an impact is. There's no grounds to cancel flights, and it's too soon to judge based on financial results. Travel plans are usually done in advance, not to mention that many visitors had to change their bookings when the protests broke out, which meant more money for MEA and other airlines as a result of those changes. Let's agree that people would think twice before planning any travels over the upcoming holidays. Also, Sep thru Nov are not typical peak travel months (inbound or outbound), so once again, the judgement is inaccurate.

Also, ME is owned by BDL, which kind of, unofficially, declared a state of financial crisis. At the same time, Moody's downgraded Lebanon's credit rating. This would all take a toll on this. I hope not though. I'd still like to see ME's new neo's sooner than later.


I would invite you to check flight availability on MEA for the holidays. They are doing better than they were this time last year. Yes, people changed their flights in October, all of those people still flew, and mostly changed because they could do it for free. Loads were still high for that time of year, I was personally on 4 flights, and 3 of them were almost full.

BDL owns ME but does not intervene in its management, so BDL's financial situation is actually not related to ME at all. To stay on topic, ME is not facing any struggles and have no reason to delay deliveries, the economic situation was the same before the October 17 revolution, ME was well aware of that when they accelerated the delivery schedule. Don't forget that a big part of ME's growth in the past few years has been Syrian travelers who drive mainly from Damascus to fly out of BEY due to the lack of an alternative. That situation does not look like it is going to change anytime soon.

I understand your skepticism, but all of the facts point the other way.


it's one thing to love your country and national airline and it's another thing to be delusional ...

i found a 115 one way flight from MAD to BEY while before the protests i paid 300 euros and during the summer 500 euros ... all by MEA
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:31 am

I flew BEY-BRU in NOV 4 the Monday after all saint saints day..and the Monday after the end of 1 week school holidays in Belgium. The flight was supposed to be overbooked!!!! I Managed to get the one way at EUR 170 (was not available before the events)..
I expected an empty flight, but was around 80 pct full. Flights are not empty, but selling at what price?
Return to BEY from BRU now this month is EUG 250!! But X Mas fares are stil very high..
No illusion, if the protests continue will be catastrophic for MEA and other airlines operating out of BEY. So far only CSA suspended operations..
 
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Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:11 pm

Hey guys,

I just booked a flight from Geneva to Bali via AUH. I'm checking online and I found an article about the opening date of the new terminal beeing delayed, while the same article mention that the current one is closed:

https://gulfbusiness.com/abu-dhabi-airp ... rmanently/

Do you have more info?

Cheers
 
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Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:46 pm

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Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:52 pm

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Not my country or my national airline, but nice try. I don't have an answer about MAD because I've never looked at prices for the route. I can say it makes no sense to compare November prices to the summer.

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If you book LHR-BEY in advance you can get it for under 200 euros round trip. I'm not arguing what you're saying, just pointing out that 170 one way to Brussels in November is not that crazy compared to pricing across the network in normal situations, and more specifically this time of year. Sure, instability will have a negative impact, and Lebanon's economy is all but completely destroyed, but these flights are mostly filled with people from the diaspora, and they will not skip their regular trip to Lebanon because of the revolution. Short term bookings might be affected, but look no further than January and the availability and prices will surprise you. Again, of course any airline would be affected by the economic situation in its home base, but ME is doing just fine so far, and it would not be the first time the airline comfortable maneuvers a tricky economic situation.

Where the airline needs to worry is the Lebanon-based vacationers who will not be able to afford these trips abroad, or at least will struggle to get enough liquidity in foreign currency to travel. Luckily they don't have to worry about that for another 6 months or so.

Edit: Just to make sure we are following the original discussion--all of this still does not imply a delay in the delivery schedule, and again, the economic situation was the same when the schedule was accelerated.[/quote][/quote]
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:52 pm

ramzi wrote:
OGLOBAL wrote:
ramzi wrote:

Not my country or my national airline, but nice try. I don't have an answer about MAD because I've never looked at prices for the route. I can say it makes no sense to compare November prices to the summer.



If you book LHR-BEY in advance you can get it for under 200 euros round trip. I'm not arguing what you're saying, just pointing out that 170 one way to Brussels in November is not that crazy compared to pricing across the network in normal situations, and more specifically this time of year. Sure, instability will have a negative impact, and Lebanon's economy is all but completely destroyed, but these flights are mostly filled with people from the diaspora, and they will not skip their regular trip to Lebanon because of the revolution. Short term bookings might be affected, but look no further than January and the availability and prices will surprise you. Again, of course any airline would be affected by the economic situation in its home base, but ME is doing just fine so far, and it would not be the first time the airline comfortable maneuvers a tricky economic situation.

Where the airline needs to worry is the Lebanon-based vacationers who will not be able to afford these trips abroad, or at least will struggle to get enough liquidity in foreign currency to travel. Luckily they don't have to worry about that for another 6 months or so.


i am originally lebanese , and we are a big family we all live in different places , we all cancelled our trips to lebanon for the time being and for winter and spring season . so there will be an impact . Even though BEY is basically the hub for Lebanon and Syria at the moment but protests are everywhere the highway between lebanon and syria was closed my brother had to take shortcuts to be able to reach the airport when he left 2 weeks ago it basically took him 6 hours instead of 2 .
 
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Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:07 am

SR380 wrote:
Hey guys,

I just booked a flight from Geneva to Bali via AUH. I'm checking online and I found an article about the opening date of the new terminal beeing delayed, while the same article mention that the current one is closed:

https://gulfbusiness.com/abu-dhabi-airp ... rmanently/

Do you have more info?

Cheers



The current airport is not closed. They only closed the city check in terminal near a mall (it's a remote terminal where one can check in then head to the actual airport).
So you are good to go. As for the new terminal, it is not yet open.

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Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:31 am

Starting from 01JUN20, Emirates will add a fourth daily flight to Dhaka, Bangladesh.
 
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:12 pm

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Starting from 01JUN20, Emirates will add a fourth daily flight to Dhaka, Bangladesh.


damn and EY couldn't even make 1 daily work
 
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:41 pm

rida79 wrote:
SR380 wrote:
Hey guys,

I just booked a flight from Geneva to Bali via AUH. I'm checking online and I found an article about the opening date of the new terminal beeing delayed, while the same article mention that the current one is closed:

https://gulfbusiness.com/abu-dhabi-airp ... rmanently/

Do you have more info?

Cheers



The current airport is not closed. They only closed the city check in terminal near a mall (it's a remote terminal where one can check in then head to the actual airport).
So you are good to go. As for the new terminal, it is not yet open.

cheers


Thanks. I was hoping to see this new terminal. The current one is so out of touch.
 
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:04 pm

SR380 wrote:
rida79 wrote:
SR380 wrote:
Hey guys,

I just booked a flight from Geneva to Bali via AUH. I'm checking online and I found an article about the opening date of the new terminal beeing delayed, while the same article mention that the current one is closed:

https://gulfbusiness.com/abu-dhabi-airp ... rmanently/

Do you have more info?

Cheers



The current airport is not closed. They only closed the city check in terminal near a mall (it's a remote terminal where one can check in then head to the actual airport).
So you are good to go. As for the new terminal, it is not yet open.

cheers


Thanks. I was hoping to see this new terminal. The current one is so out of touch.


You'll get to see the outside of the new terminal as soon as you land in bu Dhabi. It's impressive and IMHO gorgeous. I'm flying though the old terminal for the very first time this coming Feb and I can't wait to see it before it closes.
 
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:16 pm

OGLOBAL wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Starting from 01JUN20, Emirates will add a fourth daily flight to Dhaka, Bangladesh.


damn and EY couldn't even make 1 daily work


Don’t forget that flydubai gave (had to give?) their daily rotation with a full economy (189Y) aircraft to EK. And not that long ago before that they even ran a double daily DAC rotation.

So the market is there and EK is hovering it up with the big guns.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:35 am

Avgeek21 wrote:
OGLOBAL wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Starting from 01JUN20, Emirates will add a fourth daily flight to Dhaka, Bangladesh.


damn and EY couldn't even make 1 daily work


Don’t forget that flydubai gave (had to give?) their daily rotation with a full economy (189Y) aircraft to EK. And not that long ago before that they even ran a double daily DAC rotation.

So the market is there and EK is hovering it up with the big guns.


maybe Air Arabia Abu dhabi will launch DAC from AUH
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:09 am

Any updates on Bahrain’s new terminal. It’s supposed to open next year March, but online I couldn't find any updates on the project. Is it on hold or just delayed?
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:31 pm

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Any updates on Bahrain’s new terminal. It’s supposed to open next year March, but online I couldn't find any updates on the project. Is it on hold or just delayed?


They will be having operational trials before the official inauguration. I think the airport will be open by Q1 2020.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:55 pm

OGLOBAL wrote:
Avgeek21 wrote:
OGLOBAL wrote:

damn and EY couldn't even make 1 daily work


Don’t forget that flydubai gave (had to give?) their daily rotation with a full economy (189Y) aircraft to EK. And not that long ago before that they even ran a double daily DAC rotation.

So the market is there and EK is hovering it up with the big guns.


maybe Air Arabia Abu dhabi will launch DAC from AUH

With EY not able to crunch the right numbers (for whatever reason) on AUH-DAC, then I agree that this must be a route that Air Arabia are looking at. In fact, any closed station must have originally stacked up so could be a good place for them to start (DAC, JAI, BGW, etc.)
 
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Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:19 pm

Abu Dhabi Midfield terminal will open in Q1 2020.
 
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Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:55 am

Flydubai will wet lease four B738s between 14DEC19 and 25JAN20 from Smartwings
 
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Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:01 pm

I have noticed there is very little presence of european LCCs at BEY..Apart from a few flights from Transavia,Vueling and FR just starting, i dont see any Easy,FR or Wizz flights from London,Milan,Paris,Berlin etc..How come? Tel Aviv, Morocco and Amman are flourishing..Why not BEY? We see though the likes of Air Arabia,Jazeera,Flydubai,Flynas...
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Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:17 pm

marcogr12 wrote:
I have noticed there is very little presence of european LCCs at BEY..Apart from a few flights from Transavia,Vueling and FR just starting, i dont see any Easy,FR or Wizz flights from London,Milan,Paris,Berlin etc..How come? Tel Aviv, Morocco and Amman are flourishing..Why not BEY? We see though the likes of Air Arabia,Jazeera,Flydubai,Flynas...



Lebanon doesn't have open skies with EU , they have it with european countries individually . so for example transavia would only be able to operate from france or the netherlands .. Vueling only from spain etc etc
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:30 pm

Gulf Air has retired an A330. Two are remaining in the fleet.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:57 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Gulf Air has retired an A330. Two are remaining in the fleet.


Gulf Air needs to fix its house. What’s the use of new branding if customer service is as bad as ever! Unreliable booking system and app. I’ve seen cabin crew yell at a passenger for grabbing a cup from the food tray. I just don’t see anything resembling a “boutique” airline as it likes to call itself. GF Will surely suffer when Qatar Airways returns to Bahrain.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:13 am

Emirates will be adding a sixth daily flight to BKK and a third daily to Phuket.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:27 am

EKs Clark tell TPG - a second daily DXB-DXB-JFK would be on the cards were slots available. Flights always full, article’s writer suggests EWR a possible EK fifth freedom option.

https://simpleflying.com/emirates-nyc-fifth-freedom/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:31 pm

BA begins DMM flight to LHR via BAH
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:33 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Emirates will be adding a sixth daily flight to BKK and a third daily to Phuket.


When you post something please read the article content and not just the title. Yes they increase frequency but only on SELECTED dates aka x-mass holiday rush. So not really worth mentioning it here. Had it been year round then yes...
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... 9jan-2020/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:34 am

AsoRock wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Gulf Air has retired an A330. Two are remaining in the fleet.


Gulf Air needs to fix its house. What’s the use of new branding if customer service is as bad as ever! Unreliable booking system and app. I’ve seen cabin crew yell at a passenger for grabbing a cup from the food tray. I just don’t see anything resembling a “boutique” airline as it likes to call itself. GF Will surely suffer when Qatar Airways returns to Bahrain.


GF will never improve, the airline is essentially a nationalized carrier whose staff will never be pushed around to provide the level of service delivered by the ME3. At the end of the day the service on the ME3 is achieved by varying degrees of intimidation. GF had a significant number of Bahraini cabin crew, in fact most of the senior cabin crew are Bahraini, and they won't be accept the treatment that cabin crew face in the other airlines in the region. I don't blame them. At least GF is authentic, the rest are just a facade.
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:36 am

On Sunday I watched a Gulf Air A320 land in Larnaca. The new livery is atrocious especially since the plane looks all white until you see it up close.
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