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xwb777
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:45 am

Emirates and Interjet Airlines signs an interline agreement.

Link: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... -airlines/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:37 pm

Inaugural EK flight 255 DXB-BCN-MEX about to depart or has departed. Anyone can share pics or info when they get a chance? I know it will be a very special moment when arriving to MEX. Hopefully it was a full flight!
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:01 am

Air France is bringing back the A380 to Dubai starting from next winter season.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ce-in-w20/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:51 pm

Oman’s LCC, Salam Air, will be launching flights between Muscat and Phuket. 3 weekly flights starting from December 24.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:23 pm

According to several Serbian aviation portals, JU will be launching BEG-AMM, four times a week from summer 2020.

Nice compensation for the loss of UIA I guess.

Air Serbia will serve LCA, BEY, TLV, CAI and AMM in that area.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:35 am

Saudia is set to resume Jeddah-Athens from summer 2020 while Riyadh-Athens is reduced from 4 to 2 weekly.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-changes/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:24 am

Emirates wants to operate the A380 to Mexico City if the demand remains high.

Link: https://www.arabianbusiness.com/travel- ... mains-high
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:30 pm

Salem Obaidalla, Senior VP Commercial Operations Americas:
“Emirates is still studying the feasibility of launching services to Panama City. The airline is also considering other cities in the Americas.”
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:51 am

Q2 2020 cuts at Etihad. Destinations such as Phuket, Bangkok, Geneva, Dusseldorf and Johannesburg are being reduced, some like BKK are seeing considerable reductions (3 daily to 2 daily).

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-19dec19/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:22 am

Air Arabia Abu Dhabi announces its routes and destinations. Aircraft= A320.

Starting from 29MAR20, Air Arabia Abu Dhabi will start the following:
-Abu Dhabi – Almaty
-Abu Dhabi – Dhaka
-Abu Dhabi – Faisalabad
-Abu Dhabi – kiev
-Abu Dhabi – Jaipur
-Abu Dhabi – Multan
-Abu Dhabi – Peshawer
-Abu Dhabi – Taif
-Abu Dhabi – Tbilisi
-Abu Dhabi – Yanbu
-Abu Dhabi – Yerevan


Almaty, Dhaka, Jaipur and Yerevan were all ex-Etihad destinations. I think some EY destinations are moved to Air Arabia AbubDhabi.


The Timings and Timetables can be found at: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... rk-in-s20/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:05 am

Almaty, Dhaka, Jaipur and Yerevan were all ex-Etihad destinations. I think some EY destinations are moved to Air Arabia AbubDhabi.


Correct, these were from EY. None of this full list are current EY destinations though. I was honestly surprised, thought it would be Pakistan, India and Saudi Arabia only.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:26 pm

Etihad announces seasonal flights to Malaga, Spain. The three weekly flights will operate via Rabat, Morocco.

Source: https://www.arabianbusiness.com/travel- ... ummer-2020
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:06 pm

3rdGen wrote:
AsoRock wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Gulf Air has retired an A330. Two are remaining in the fleet.


Gulf Air needs to fix its house. What’s the use of new branding if customer service is as bad as ever! Unreliable booking system and app. I’ve seen cabin crew yell at a passenger for grabbing a cup from the food tray. I just don’t see anything resembling a “boutique” airline as it likes to call itself. GF Will surely suffer when Qatar Airways returns to Bahrain.


GF will never improve, the airline is essentially a nationalized carrier whose staff will never be pushed around to provide the level of service delivered by the ME3. At the end of the day the service on the ME3 is achieved by varying degrees of intimidation. GF had a significant number of Bahraini cabin crew, in fact most of the senior cabin crew are Bahraini, and they won't be accept the treatment that cabin crew face in the other airlines in the region. I don't blame them. At least GF is authentic, the rest are just a facade.


Well said i've heard horror stories of how cabin crew are treated in the ME3 carriers and this completely puts me off flying any of them all. The notion that behind that smile is emotional torture from their employers is not something I want to see while being served onboard and it shows they hate what they're doing
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:08 pm

AsoRock wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Gulf Air has retired an A330. Two are remaining in the fleet.


Gulf Air needs to fix its house. What’s the use of new branding if customer service is as bad as ever! Unreliable booking system and app. I’ve seen cabin crew yell at a passenger for grabbing a cup from the food tray. I just don’t see anything resembling a “boutique” airline as it likes to call itself. GF Will surely suffer when Qatar Airways returns to Bahrain.


they've done well for themselves while Qatar Airways was still flying to Bahrain. Although in my opinion your post has a touch of "personal" agenda towards them
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:15 pm

MoReZ84 wrote:
AsoRock wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Gulf Air has retired an A330. Two are remaining in the fleet.


Gulf Air needs to fix its house. What’s the use of new branding if customer service is as bad as ever! Unreliable booking system and app. I’ve seen cabin crew yell at a passenger for grabbing a cup from the food tray. I just don’t see anything resembling a “boutique” airline as it likes to call itself. GF Will surely suffer when Qatar Airways returns to Bahrain.


they've done well for themselves while Qatar Airways was still flying to Bahrain. Although in my opinion your post has a touch of "personal" agenda towards them


On what basis do you claim that they have done well while Qatar was flying to Bahrain ? All travelers I speak with equally complain of bad service. Where do you live ?
I’m in no way affiliated with QR or even its owner ! This isn’t about politics, it’s the truth. They expanded after QR stopped flying to Bahrain. Notice Casablanca? Maldives ?
I doubt they would be in better shape once QR returns.
I have been wishing them success since 15 years with th first rebranding effort. But none of those restored the kind of passenger confidence witnessed in the 1970s or 1980s.
All I’m saying is that brand revamps by themselves aren’t the solution. It’s also focusing totally on customer service. Quality of the soft and hard product. Etc.
cheers
Hussam (Saudi ARABIA ;)
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:54 pm

Starting from 29th of Dec 2019, SAUDIA will transfer the following destinations to JED T1

BEY, CAI, KRT, KWI, NBO, DMM and ELQ

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xwb777
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:08 pm

Emirates will operate extra flights to BKK, MLE, RUH and Kuwait in January.

Bangkok: 12 extra flights on the B777 btw 01-01-2020 and 12-01-2020.
Flight: EK2547
Departure: 2:00 Arrival: 11:00
Flight: EK2548
Departure: 18:10 Arrival 22:10
Emirates currently flies 9 daily flights to BKK (5 A380 & 4 B777)

Male: extra flights on 2/3/4/5 JAN 2020.
Flight: EK2602 Dep: 10:15 Arr: 15:25
Flight: EK2603 Dep: 17:45 Arr: 20:45

Emirates currently operates 4 daily flights to Male. EK660/661 os seasonal.

Kuwait: for the period 5 - 12 JAN
EK873/874 will be operated

EK873
Dep: 4:55 Arr: 5:50
EK884
Dep: 07:10 Arr: 9:50

For the days 16/23/25/30 JAN 2020, EK877/878 will be scheduled.

EK877
Dep: 13:15 Arr: 14:10
EK878
Dep: 15:40 Arr: 18:25

Emirates currently flies 6 daily into Kuwait.

Riyadh: Extra flights on 2/3/4/16/17 JAN 2020.

EK2541
Dep DXB: 16:20 Arr RUH: 17:20

EK2542
Dep RUH: 18:50 Arr DXB: 21:50.

Emirates currently have 4 daily flights except Tuesdays where they have 3 daily flights.

Emirates operates the A380/B777 on the route.
 
MoReZ84
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:40 pm

AsoRock wrote:
MoReZ84 wrote:
AsoRock wrote:

Gulf Air needs to fix its house. What’s the use of new branding if customer service is as bad as ever! Unreliable booking system and app. I’ve seen cabin crew yell at a passenger for grabbing a cup from the food tray. I just don’t see anything resembling a “boutique” airline as it likes to call itself. GF Will surely suffer when Qatar Airways returns to Bahrain.


they've done well for themselves while Qatar Airways was still flying to Bahrain. Although in my opinion your post has a touch of "personal" agenda towards them


On what basis do you claim that they have done well while Qatar was flying to Bahrain ? All travelers I speak with equally complain of bad service. Where do you live ?
I’m in no way affiliated with QR or even its owner ! This isn’t about politics, it’s the truth. They expanded after QR stopped flying to Bahrain. Notice Casablanca? Maldives ?
I doubt they would be in better shape once QR returns.
I have been wishing them success since 15 years with th first rebranding effort. But none of those restored the kind of passenger confidence witnessed in the 1970s or 1980s.
All I’m saying is that brand revamps by themselves aren’t the solution. It’s also focusing totally on customer service. Quality of the soft and hard product. Etc.
cheers
Hussam (Saudi ARABIA ;)


Brand revamps take time and don't forget this botique project they have is not overnight. Plus what's wrong with reopening some of their closed routes? Why should they lose out on potential just because QR, EK, and EY exists?
I don't know if you've noticed but it seems the reviews of some of the travel bloggers on Youtube have been mostly positive including in the field of customer service and the hard and soft product, They've only just received 12 new aircraft in the span of two years and they have the space or money to go toe to toe with the other ME3 but rather keep a low profile.

Cheers
Mohamed (Bahrain)
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:41 am

xwb777 wrote:
Emirates will operate extra flights to BKK, MLE, RUH and Kuwait in January.

Riyadh: Extra flights on 2/3/4/16/17 JAN 2020.

EK2541
Dep DXB: 16:20 Arr RUH: 17:20

EK2542
Dep RUH: 18:50 Arr DXB: 21:50.

Emirates currently have 4 daily flights except Tuesdays where they have 3 daily flights.

Emirates operates the A380/B777 on the route.


Interesting to see how EK is focusing on RUH as it is becoming more lucrative to them !!

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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:04 pm

MoReZ84 wrote:
AsoRock wrote:
MoReZ84 wrote:

they've done well for themselves while Qatar Airways was still flying to Bahrain. Although in my opinion your post has a touch of "personal" agenda towards them


On what basis do you claim that they have done well while Qatar was flying to Bahrain ? All travelers I speak with equally complain of bad service. Where do you live ?
I’m in no way affiliated with QR or even its owner ! This isn’t about politics, it’s the truth. They expanded after QR stopped flying to Bahrain. Notice Casablanca? Maldives ?
I doubt they would be in better shape once QR returns.
I have been wishing them success since 15 years with th first rebranding effort. But none of those restored the kind of passenger confidence witnessed in the 1970s or 1980s.
All I’m saying is that brand revamps by themselves aren’t the solution. It’s also focusing totally on customer service. Quality of the soft and hard product. Etc.
cheers
Hussam (Saudi ARABIA ;)


Brand revamps take time and don't forget this botique project they have is not overnight. Plus what's wrong with reopening some of their closed routes? Why should they lose out on potential just because QR, EK, and EY exists?
I don't know if you've noticed but it seems the reviews of some of the travel bloggers on Youtube have been mostly positive including in the field of customer service and the hard and soft product, They've only just received 12 new aircraft in the span of two years and they have the space or money to go toe to toe with the other ME3 but rather keep a low profile.

Cheers
Mohamed (Bahrain)


It’s awesome they have expanded and I truly wish them success and continuity! I just hope they focus on customer service before anything else, especially since they wish to evolve into a “Boutique airline”. As an example. Look at the quality of their short haul sandwiches offered to economy travelers. It leaves much to be desired and is nowhere near the level of quality offered by Etihad or Qatar Airways or Emirates. I sent them an email to FFP customer service. Didn’t get a response for over a month. After a reminder. I received a response a few days later. A friend of mine had her flight diverted to Larnaca on the Beirut to Bahrain direct service, for purely commercial reasons ! Their booking app is just so difficult to use from a user perspective compared to regional competition. The list goes on. Really wish they would focus on these things.
Cheers
Hussam
 
MoReZ84
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:23 pm

AsoRock wrote:
MoReZ84 wrote:
AsoRock wrote:

On what basis do you claim that they have done well while Qatar was flying to Bahrain ? All travelers I speak with equally complain of bad service. Where do you live ?
I’m in no way affiliated with QR or even its owner ! This isn’t about politics, it’s the truth. They expanded after QR stopped flying to Bahrain. Notice Casablanca? Maldives ?
I doubt they would be in better shape once QR returns.
I have been wishing them success since 15 years with th first rebranding effort. But none of those restored the kind of passenger confidence witnessed in the 1970s or 1980s.
All I’m saying is that brand revamps by themselves aren’t the solution. It’s also focusing totally on customer service. Quality of the soft and hard product. Etc.
cheers
Hussam (Saudi ARABIA ;)


Brand revamps take time and don't forget this botique project they have is not overnight. Plus what's wrong with reopening some of their closed routes? Why should they lose out on potential just because QR, EK, and EY exists?
I don't know if you've noticed but it seems the reviews of some of the travel bloggers on Youtube have been mostly positive including in the field of customer service and the hard and soft product, They've only just received 12 new aircraft in the span of two years and they have the space or money to go toe to toe with the other ME3 but rather keep a low profile.

Cheers
Mohamed (Bahrain)


It’s awesome they have expanded and I truly wish them success and continuity! I just hope they focus on customer service before anything else, especially since they wish to evolve into a “Boutique airline”. As an example. Look at the quality of their short haul sandwiches offered to economy travelers. It leaves much to be desired and is nowhere near the level of quality offered by Etihad or Qatar Airways or Emirates. I sent them an email to FFP customer service. Didn’t get a response for over a month. After a reminder. I received a response a few days later. A friend of mine had her flight diverted to Larnaca on the Beirut to Bahrain direct service, for purely commercial reasons ! Their booking app is just so difficult to use from a user perspective compared to regional competition. The list goes on. Really wish they would focus on these things.
Cheers
Hussam


like I said it's all about patience.................
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:34 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Emirates will operate extra flights to BKK, MLE, RUH and Kuwait in January.

Bangkok: 12 extra flights on the B777 btw 01-01-2020 and 12-01-2020.
Flight: EK2547
Departure: 2:00 Arrival: 11:00
Flight: EK2548
Departure: 18:10 Arrival 22:10
Emirates currently flies 9 daily flights to BKK (5 A380 & 4 B777)

Male: extra flights on 2/3/4/5 JAN 2020.
Flight: EK2602 Dep: 10:15 Arr: 15:25
Flight: EK2603 Dep: 17:45 Arr: 20:45

Emirates currently operates 4 daily flights to Male. EK660/661 os seasonal.

Kuwait: for the period 5 - 12 JAN
EK873/874 will be operated

EK873
Dep: 4:55 Arr: 5:50
EK884
Dep: 07:10 Arr: 9:50

For the days 16/23/25/30 JAN 2020, EK877/878 will be scheduled.

EK877
Dep: 13:15 Arr: 14:10
EK878
Dep: 15:40 Arr: 18:25

Emirates currently flies 6 daily into Kuwait.

Riyadh: Extra flights on 2/3/4/16/17 JAN 2020.

EK2541
Dep DXB: 16:20 Arr RUH: 17:20

EK2542
Dep RUH: 18:50 Arr DXB: 21:50.

Emirates currently have 4 daily flights except Tuesdays where they have 3 daily flights.

Emirates operates the A380/B777 on the route.


How come there is so much traffic between tiny MLE and DXB that they can sustain 4daily 77Ws??
Flying is breathing..no planes no life..
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:52 pm

Emirates to add extra flights to Durban. The extra flights will be operated with a 3-class B777

The extra flights will be operated on the following dates in January: 4,5,6,7,10 & 11.

EK2535 04:00 - 10:30
EK2536 12:25 - 22:50

EK currently serve Durban with a daily B777
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:35 am

Royal Jordanian adds Antalya as a new seasonal route for summer 2020 which will operate from 23 may to 19 september 3 times weekly:

RJ169 AMM0920 – 1055AYT 319 3
RJ169 AMM1000 – 1135AYT 319 1
RJ169 AMM1540 – 1715AYT 319 6

RJ170 AYT1155 – 1325AMM 319 3
RJ170 AYT1220 – 1350AMM 319 1
RJ170 AYT1800 – 1930AMM 319 6

Source : https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -may-2020/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:26 pm

Emirates to operate an extra A380 flight to Madrid.
 
xwb777
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:14 pm

Oman Air to drop its flights to Athens.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:50 am

xwb777 wrote:
Emirates to operate an extra A380 flight to Madrid.


Is this a single extra flight or a third daily frequency?

Thanks
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:41 am

xwb777 wrote:
Oman Air to drop its flights to Athens.


Not surprised, this was supposed to be a MAX route. It's quite a long flight for a regular B737 I suppose, though EY sends their A320 to Athens. I suppose those 40 minutes really do make a difference.
 
xwb777
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:20 am

ThomasCook wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Emirates to operate an extra A380 flight to Madrid.


Is this a single extra flight or a third daily frequency?

Thanks

Its an Extra flight.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:24 am

Emirates will operate an extra flight to Milan on 05JAN19.

EK2559 10:10-14:10
EK2560 15:45-00:40+1
Aircraft: 2-class B777-300ER
 
xwb777
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:47 am

Emirates will be operating an extra flight to Madrid onboard the A380, on 05JAN19.

EK2515 10:15 - 15:30

Emirates is currently serving Madrid with 14 weekly A380 flights.

Emirates will not be carrying pax on the return flight.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:35 am

Dear fellow members, please continue posting in the new thread.

Link: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1437891
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