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Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:30 pm

Ural Airlines has taken delivery of their first A320neo

Airbus A320 -251N 9136 VP-BRX Ural Airlines delivery 07aug19 TLS-SVX
 
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Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:06 am

First A319neo (A319-153N) has been delivered to K5 Aviation, registration D-ANEO (MSN 8612) on August 23rd, 2019.

https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... -avwg.html
 
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When is Qatar meant to receive its A321 aircraft, I checked on Wiki and it said 2019, have they even decided what engine to use?
 
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When is Qatar meant to receive its A321 aircraft, I checked on Wiki and it said 2019, have they even decided what engine to use?


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When is Qatar meant to receive its A321 aircraft, I checked on Wiki and it said 2019, have they even decided what engine to use?


CFM Leap-1A, Their feud with Pratt & Whitney is what caused all the drama to begin with.


Thanks and when will they begin deliveries?
 
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Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:52 pm

SQ22 wrote:
First A319neo (A319-153N) has been delivered to K5 Aviation, registration D-ANEO (MSN 8612) on August 23rd, 2019.

https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... -avwg.html

Wow that looks surprisingly slick in the air, especially given it's a "baby bus" and it's white. The single stripe looks great. I guess it's a combination of the "raccoon eyes" and the larger engines?
 
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Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:38 pm

estorilm wrote:
SQ22 wrote:
First A319neo (A319-153N) has been delivered to K5 Aviation, registration D-ANEO (MSN 8612) on August 23rd, 2019.

https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... -avwg.html

Wow that looks surprisingly slick in the air, especially given it's a "baby bus" and it's white. The single stripe looks great. I guess it's a combination of the "raccoon eyes" and the larger engines?


Ok, I have really missed it (as more or less everyone here)?
So status till now: mimimim...will it ever delivered? Will it ever fly comercial...mimimim.....to now:(OK, I am a bad guy, but so often seen in this forum...)

A319 Neo delivered: 1
 
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Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:32 pm

D-ANEO is an ACJ, Airbus Corporate Jet. Don't expect it to fly commercial services...
 
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Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:58 pm

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D-ANEO is an ACJ, Airbus Corporate Jet. Don't expect it to fly commercial services...


Of course, I used the wrong word. The A319 Neo with up to date knowledge will not be a real commercial success for the commercial services. Also there is a small but excellent niche. The A319 Neo is the only extreme high and hot jet of this capacity in the world. So it will be sold,(also only in low numbers) to China and South America.
And regular the smaller versions are also sold better to governments and military.
So, it will be sold in low, but reasonable numbers. And as it will be sold only as niche, business and for governmental use: regular there will be a several times higher yield/per jet in comparison to a regular/standard A320 Neo.

And as also seen more than once, one or two PIPs, like MTOW or range increases and a jet is getting requested by the airlines.

And as they are produced on the same production lines and is highly identical to the A320 Neo....
Few low hundreds sold in next 10 years but all with a several times higher yield/jet and there is the comercial success.
 
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:57 am

The A319 Neo equipped with the same internal fuel tanks as the A321XLR will make an excellent executive/government VIP jet .... Plus it will still have some cargo hold space for the travellers.
 
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:19 am

Is there any spreadsheet for A320 NEO and A321 NEO.
 
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:24 pm

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The A319 Neo equipped with the same internal fuel tanks as the A321XLR will make an excellent executive/government VIP jet .... Plus it will still have some cargo hold space for the travellers.

I'd imagine PLENTY of space given how few people are likely to fly in them at any given time.

Wish we could get some interior shots!
 
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:45 am

AirAsia's first A321neo is in final assembly

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Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:07 pm

Here is the Hamburg XFW version of the run-ahead construction number: 10001
c/n 10002 was already seen at Toulouse some time ago.
Both aircraft are allegedly built so early to test Airbus systems readiness for 5-digit contruction numbers.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cruise727/48694966258/
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:39 pm

The first Airbus A321 (NEO) for Chongqing Airlines - a NEO, but also their first Airbus A321 ever.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cruise727/48712937627/
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:40 pm

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AirAsia's first A321neo is in final assembly



And it is out now and painted in a special color scheme
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:44 pm

F-WWKH wrote:
qf789 wrote:
AirAsia's first A321neo is in final assembly



And it is out now and painted in a special color scheme


Here is the first A321neo for AirAsia

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https://twitter.com/Tobias_Gudat/status ... 18849?s=20
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pm

The first Starlux A321neo has also been rolled out. Idk how to post a pic directly so here's the article with said pic.

http://aeronauticsonline.com/starlux-ai ... ns-launch/
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:40 pm

qf789 wrote:
F-WWKH wrote:
qf789 wrote:
AirAsia's first A321neo is in final assembly



And it is out now and painted in a special color scheme


Here is the first A321neo for AirAsia

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https://twitter.com/Tobias_Gudat/status ... 18849?s=20

Lovely! Amazed by how fast Airbus is churning out A320neo family line...what is the production rate now?
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:53 pm

OA940 wrote:
The first Starlux A321neo has also been rolled out. Idk how to post a pic directly so here's the article with said pic.

http://aeronauticsonline.com/starlux-ai ... ns-launch/


Wow, she looks pretty :veryhappy:
 
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:11 pm

They can't churn them out fast enough...
 
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:06 pm

OA940 wrote:
The first Starlux A321neo has also been rolled out. Idk how to post a pic directly so here's the article with said pic.

http://aeronauticsonline.com/starlux-ai ... ns-launch/


Let me help you:

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Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:07 pm

Easyjet today received the 9000th A320 family member ever built.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2WtTTmBS4D ... 0cipvcv0gx

Pretty sure this is not the "real" 9000th, they must have skipped few MSN number in between.
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:10 pm

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Easyjet today received the 9000th A320 family member ever built.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2WtTTmBS4D ... 0cipvcv0gx

Pretty sure this is not the "real" 9000th, they must have skipped few MSN number in between.


It could very well be the actual 9000th Delivery (not to be confused with MSN 9000 which has nothing do to with that statistic)
 
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:45 pm

juliuswong wrote:
qf789 wrote:
F-WWKH wrote:

And it is out now and painted in a special color scheme


Here is the first A321neo for AirAsia

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https://twitter.com/Tobias_Gudat/status ... 18849?s=20

Lovely! Amazed by how fast Airbus is churning out A320neo family line...what is the production rate now?


Not fast enough :)

They delivered 620 last year.
There have been 400 delivered through to end of August this year.
My guess is between 640 and 650 total for this year.

The plan is to go up to 65 per month, or c. 750 per year by 2022.
And even if they do that it will still take 8 years to burn through the current backlog. :faint:

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Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:51 pm

bspc wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Easyjet today received the 9000th A320 family member ever built.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2WtTTmBS4D ... 0cipvcv0gx

Pretty sure this is not the "real" 9000th, they must have skipped few MSN number in between.


It could very well be the actual 9000th Delivery (not to be confused with MSN 9000 which has nothing do to with that statistic)


8 899 delivered to end August according to the Airbus website, although Wiki has the number higher than that (8 943).
Airbus should know ……

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Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:58 pm

astuteman wrote:
bspc wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Easyjet today received the 9000th A320 family member ever built.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2WtTTmBS4D ... 0cipvcv0gx

Pretty sure this is not the "real" 9000th, they must have skipped few MSN number in between.


It could very well be the actual 9000th Delivery (not to be confused with MSN 9000 which has nothing do to with that statistic)


8 899 delivered to end August according to the Airbus website, although Wiki has the number higher than that (8 943).
Airbus should know ……

Rgds

Hahaha, yes. I did further research on the delivery. Like what bspc has mentioned this easyjet delivery is the 9000th A320 to be delivered. Specifically A320, not taking into account A319/A321.

Easyjet G-UZLG delivered on 10 September 2019, MSN 9105.

Thanks bspc for the heads up.
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:07 pm

astuteman wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
qf789 wrote:

Here is the first A321neo for AirAsia

Image

https://twitter.com/Tobias_Gudat/status ... 18849?s=20

Lovely! Amazed by how fast Airbus is churning out A320neo family line...what is the production rate now?


Not fast enough :)

They delivered 620 last year.
There have been 400 delivered through to end of August this year.
My guess is between 640 and 650 total for this year.

The plan is to go up to 65 per month, or c. 750 per year by 2022.
And even if they do that it will still take 8 years to burn through the current backlog. :faint:

Rgds


Thank you very much for the numbers. That's crazy man. Airbus can afford to sit down and not do anything for next few years while working on new clean sheet narrowbody. I remember when I first got into aviation they were doing only 30+ a month.

But challenges remain though moving forward, how are they going to open up for slots for airlines who are keen to take earlier delivery. I am curious to know what is their plan to improve their efficiency to get the backlog down asap. The plan to retool and use A380 plants looks promising and ideal. Will leave that in separate discussion.
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:53 pm

juliuswong wrote:
astuteman wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Lovely! Amazed by how fast Airbus is churning out A320neo family line...what is the production rate now?


Not fast enough :)

They delivered 620 last year.
There have been 400 delivered through to end of August this year.
My guess is between 640 and 650 total for this year.

The plan is to go up to 65 per month, or c. 750 per year by 2022.
And even if they do that it will still take 8 years to burn through the current backlog. :faint:

Rgds


Thank you very much for the numbers. That's crazy man. Airbus can afford to sit down and not do anything for next few years while working on new clean sheet narrowbody. I remember when I first got into aviation they were doing only 30+ a month.

But challenges remain though moving forward, how are they going to open up for slots for airlines who are keen to take earlier delivery. I am curious to know what is their plan to improve their efficiency to get the backlog down asap. The plan to retool and use A380 plants looks promising and ideal. Will leave that in separate discussion.


It's been a journey.
roughly ...

200/year in 2000 to 300/year in 2005
300/year in 2005 to 400/year in 2010
400/year in 2010 to 500/year in 2015
500/year in 2015 to say 650 this year and possibly 680+ in 2020

Crazy indeed!
But we digress :)

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F-WWKH wrote:
Here is the Hamburg XFW version of the run-ahead construction number: 10001
c/n 10002 was already seen at Toulouse some time ago.
Both aircraft are allegedly built so early to test Airbus systems readiness for 5-digit contruction numbers.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cruise727/48694966258/


Now in full colors https://www.flickr.com/photos/cruise727/48777099328/
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:50 pm

astuteman wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
astuteman wrote:

Not fast enough :)

They delivered 620 last year.
There have been 400 delivered through to end of August this year.
My guess is between 640 and 650 total for this year.

The plan is to go up to 65 per month, or c. 750 per year by 2022.
And even if they do that it will still take 8 years to burn through the current backlog. :faint:

Rgds


Thank you very much for the numbers. That's crazy man. Airbus can afford to sit down and not do anything for next few years while working on new clean sheet narrowbody. I remember when I first got into aviation they were doing only 30+ a month.

But challenges remain though moving forward, how are they going to open up for slots for airlines who are keen to take earlier delivery. I am curious to know what is their plan to improve their efficiency to get the backlog down asap. The plan to retool and use A380 plants looks promising and ideal. Will leave that in separate discussion.


It's been a journey.
roughly ...

200/year in 2000 to 300/year in 2005
300/year in 2005 to 400/year in 2010
400/year in 2010 to 500/year in 2015
500/year in 2015 to say 650 this year and possibly 680+ in 2020

Crazy indeed!
But we digress :)

Rgds


As amazingly well as they are doing, didn't they actually have to push back some 2019 and 2020 deliveries due to some supplier and some production issues?
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:14 pm

SteelChair wrote:
astuteman wrote:
juliuswong wrote:

Thank you very much for the numbers. That's crazy man. Airbus can afford to sit down and not do anything for next few years while working on new clean sheet narrowbody. I remember when I first got into aviation they were doing only 30+ a month.

But challenges remain though moving forward, how are they going to open up for slots for airlines who are keen to take earlier delivery. I am curious to know what is their plan to improve their efficiency to get the backlog down asap. The plan to retool and use A380 plants looks promising and ideal. Will leave that in separate discussion.


It's been a journey.
roughly ...

200/year in 2000 to 300/year in 2005
300/year in 2005 to 400/year in 2010
400/year in 2010 to 500/year in 2015
500/year in 2015 to say 650 this year and possibly 680+ in 2020

Crazy indeed!
But we digress :)

Rgds


As amazingly well as they are doing, didn't they actually have to push back some 2019 and 2020 deliveries due to some supplier and some production issues?

First, yes they are doing well and need to accelerate deliveries.

Second, they were short of engines in 2017, 2018, 2019, and will be in 2020. The current caught up is a mutually agreed reduced production rate.

At this time, Airbus needs more A321 production, not other A320 production to increase.

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Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:10 pm

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Easyjet today received the 9000th A320 family member ever built.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2WtTTmBS4D ... 0cipvcv0gx

Pretty sure this is not the "real" 9000th, they must have skipped few MSN number in between.


c/n 9000 is pictured here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/cruise727/48783136207/
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:25 pm

F-WWKH wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Easyjet today received the 9000th A320 family member ever built.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2WtTTmBS4D ... 0cipvcv0gx

Pretty sure this is not the "real" 9000th, they must have skipped few MSN number in between.


c/n 9000 is pictured here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/cruise727/48783136207/

Just to put in perspective. Airbus is making 700+ aircraft per year. Many components rebuilt on heavy maintenance cycle, or perhaps a little less often.

So 700 shipsets of parts for new
500 to 900 to be rebuilt (obviously excludes basic structure). Not full parts, buy rebuild kits.

So CEO only parts need 400 to 800 rebuild ship sets per year.
NEO only parts needs the production run of about 700 ship sets.
Parts used for both need 1200 to 1600 shipsets per year. :faint: Note, this is rebuild parts, casings, pistons, and other parts tend to last the life of the aircraft (almost, not 100% true).

That is one busy vendor supply chain. It is a good thing casings (engines, valves) last as the aerospace casting shops are running flat out.

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Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:03 pm

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At this time, Airbus needs more A321 production, not other A320 production to increase.

Lightsaber


IMO A321 production is limited by the supply line, rather than FAL capacity. If we look to XFW and BFM as the current sites for A321 production, both XFW and BFM still do also A320. At full capacity, running A321 only, they could do together 42 A321 frames a month, if the supply line can provide the parts.
 
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:02 pm

mjoelnir wrote:
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At this time, Airbus needs more A321 production, not other A320 production to increase.

Lightsaber


IMO A321 production is limited by the supply line, rather than FAL capacity. If we look to XFW and BFM as the current sites for A321 production, both XFW and BFM still do also A320. At full capacity, running A321 only, they could do together 42 A321 frames a month, if the supply line can provide the parts.


Thats very interesting. What are you basing that upon? By supply line do you mean supply chain, as in subassemblies and sub contractors?

Its amazing to think that 42 a month isn't keeping up with demand. The 321 has certainly "come into its own." Airbus is clearly the pre-emonent airliner manufacturer dans tout le monde.
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:59 pm

SAS currently have 3 A320 in XFW which has been spotted in full C/S almost 3 months ago. Neither ave been in the air yet. They are all stored like this one https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F6FuRHN5OCA/ ... abe8_h.jpg
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:47 pm

DL also had 2 A321ceos, MSNs 8822 and 8947, which were built at least 3 months ago, and 8822 was finally delivered 10 days ago.
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:12 pm

SteelChair wrote:
mjoelnir wrote:
lightsaber wrote:


At this time, Airbus needs more A321 production, not other A320 production to increase.

Lightsaber


IMO A321 production is limited by the supply line, rather than FAL capacity. If we look to XFW and BFM as the current sites for A321 production, both XFW and BFM still do also A320. At full capacity, running A321 only, they could do together 42 A321 frames a month, if the supply line can provide the parts.


Thats very interesting. What are you basing that upon? By supply line do you mean supply chain, as in subassemblies and sub contractors?

Its amazing to think that 42 a month isn't keeping up with demand. The 321 has certainly "come into its own." Airbus is clearly the pre-emonent airliner manufacturer dans tout le monde.


Those FAL, XFW and BFM could produce 42 A321 frames a month if they would move to A321 only. As it is they produce quite a few A320 and XFW even also a few A319 The point I made is that A321 FAL capacity is not the limiting factor. The capacity of the combined falls is 64 to 66 frames. Technically TSN could be also moved to A321, but that is also a contractual matter.

Supply line, or supply chain, is the limiting factor for the A320 family production, especially engines are in short supply for the neo version. Yes, I mean sub assemblies and subcontractors. It will depend on the supply chain, if Airbus will be able to move to 63 frames by the middle of next year.
 
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Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:24 pm

Airbus has delivered 1000th A320neo family aircraft to Indigo (A321neo). Congrats!

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... ivery.html
 
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Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:01 pm

Looks like they made a little arrangement with the numbers. Per Airbus "Orders and Deliveries" document, they had delivered 973 A320neo family aircraft at the end of September, and per Planespotters, this is the 11th delivery since October 1st...

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