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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:36 pm

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ChrisNH38 wrote:
So I just got off JAL 8 and GE was its usual breeze. But when I went downstairs to get my suitcase, I was allowed to walk right out without handing in that blue and white card. Is that the new normal?


According to the CBP officer that stamped my passport last week all of these cards are completely eliminated. I know these have also been eliminated in a few airports I've flown to over the past year. Very welcome step.

On a different note, the ride share situation at Logan has become seriously frustrating. It is taking ages for Ubers to make it to the pick-up lots since they are all stuck together in a further away waiting lot. I also saw signs all over Terminal A today that by October 31 pick up will move to central parking. Perhaps my perspective is limited, but I strongly feel that this simply makes getting out of the airport far less efficient for a large percentage of travelers.


I think that airlines still give the customs form in the airplane. The electronic kiosks have completely eliminated the need for the manual form unless someone is technologically handicapped.

Nov -01 will be the start to see how easy it is to use the ride share by Central Parking. I somehow have a feeling that folks who come in late, will end up either parking their cars at Logan, or use a dedicated Uber driver for pickups and drop-offs (not using Uber/Lyft app - just a flat rate), or use the Taxi provided that's available.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:46 pm

On my recent return from LHR via BA, there was a notice on the flight that those forms were no longer needed. Explanation about kiosks and GE accompanied.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:19 pm

I was on the 8:50AM to ORD again - flight was oversold; looking for volunteers.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:44 pm

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I was on the 8:50AM to ORD again - flight was oversold; looking for volunteers.


Which airline? Given that 1 that flies to ORD doesn't (allegedly) oversell.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:35 pm

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I was on the 8:50AM to ORD again - flight was oversold; looking for volunteers.

I take AA and AA was 70% full. This is on the 6:50 am flight - this has happened for the past 2 weeks after DL started the ORD flight. I do not know if this is just fluke OR PAX are taking DL. I checked my internal travel website and the price point is competitive. Maybe DL may just make the schedule to have a mix to DL and DL connection especially for the peak travel times.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:38 pm

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tlecam wrote:
I was on the 8:50AM to ORD again - flight was oversold; looking for volunteers.


Which airline? Given that 1 that flies to ORD doesn't (allegedly) oversell.

DL.
 
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Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:15 pm

Yes - it was DL. DL definitely oversells flights but they will up the compensation big time to prevent involuntary denied boardings.

If I were going to complain about DL's flights, it's that they have some timing gaps - Morning flights from Boston are at 6:10 and then not until 8:50. I'd love something in the 7:00 hour, but I think DL is gate restricted at ORD.

Same with departures ex-ORD to Boston - there's a 3:45PM flight back to Boston and then an 8:00PM flight back. I'd love something around 5 or 6.

On another note, DL also really needs to expand the Sky Club at ORD. Regularly has long lines outside waiting to get in.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:27 am

iyerhari wrote:
tlecam wrote:
I was on the 8:50AM to ORD again - flight was oversold; looking for volunteers.

I take AA and AA was 70% full. This is on the 6:50 am flight - this has happened for the past 2 weeks after DL started the ORD flight. I do not know if this is just fluke OR PAX are taking DL. I checked my internal travel website and the price point is competitive. Maybe DL may just make the schedule to have a mix to DL and DL connection especially for the peak travel times.



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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:47 am

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NickolayAv wrote:
aaflyer777 wrote:
NK is adding a daily BOS-SJU flight, starts on December 19 with an A319

Interesting, I was expecting DL to try out this route eventually.
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ChrisNH38 wrote:
So I just got off JAL 8 and GE was its usual breeze. But when I went downstairs to get my suitcase, I was allowed to walk right out without handing in that blue and white card. Is that the new normal?


You do not need the blue and white form when using GE. You answer all the questions electronically at the GE kiosk


I don't use GE or any other special entry mode, just the regular kiosks and it's been like that for a couple of years I think.


I can say for certain that I had to fill out the landing card in May, might have even been early June. So at least from my experience this is very new. The airline did announce that they were going to hand them out but never did. I thought they forgot until I got to the border and learned its been eliminated.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:42 pm

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Yes - it was DL. DL definitely oversells flights but they will up the compensation big time to prevent involuntary denied boardings.

If I were going to complain about DL's flights, it's that they have some timing gaps - Morning flights from Boston are at 6:10 and then not until 8:50. I'd love something in the 7:00 hour, but I think DL is gate restricted at ORD.

Same with departures ex-ORD to Boston - there's a 3:45PM flight back to Boston and then an 8:00PM flight back. I'd love something around 5 or 6.

On another note, DL also really needs to expand the Sky Club at ORD. Regularly has long lines outside waiting to get in.


What equipment is DL using?
I saw at least one was a E170/175.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:17 pm

It's a mix of 170 and 175.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:05 pm

tlecam wrote:
It's a mix of 170 and 175.


Surprised, for such a big/important route.

Though interesting that the only airline with a BOS "HUB" is the only airline offering BOS-ORD on a regional jet.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:11 pm

jworks158 wrote:
tlecam wrote:
It's a mix of 170 and 175.


Surprised, for such a big/important route.

Though interesting that the only airline with a BOS "HUB" is the only airline offering BOS-ORD on a regional jet.


I've actually been looking to book this the past two days, and am very confused that Delta only offers a 170/5.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:21 pm

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I've actually been looking to book this the past two days, and am very confused that Delta only offers a 170/5.


why is this confusing? All of the new short haul routes DL has launched out of BOS are on regional jet. It took a long time for LGA-ORD to even get mainline. More seats on a route where they are launching simply would mean more heavy discounting to fill seats.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:00 pm

jworks158 wrote:
tlecam wrote:
It's a mix of 170 and 175.


Surprised, for such a big/important route.

Though interesting that the only airline with a BOS "HUB" is the only airline offering BOS-ORD on a regional jet.

B6 operates a E190.
UA and AA can fly bigger planes because the ORD hub provides a plethora of connections for them whereas BOS is not really a hub for the likes of B6 and DL on this route. I suspect these 2 airlines are predominantly O&D on this route. If I'm a DL or B6 customer and I want to fly West I'm not connecting in ORD. I'm either flying non-stop or connecting at another B6 or DL hub.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:23 am

What tphunag and airbazar said. It’s also week 2 of them operations the route.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:22 pm

jworks158 wrote:
tlecam wrote:
It's a mix of 170 and 175.


Surprised, for such a big/important route.

Though interesting that the only airline with a BOS "HUB" is the only airline offering BOS-ORD on a regional jet.


Is this considered a bad thing? The E75 in Y is much more comfortable than the AA 738 or UA A320/319, 737’s in Y.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:28 pm

Oh goodie - Nor'easter time. I'm due out on DL5869 Thurs at 1pm - no news from Delta on travel waivers yet but surely 50mph winds aren't going to be conducive to on-time departures?
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:15 pm

seat24charlie wrote:
Oh goodie - Nor'easter time. I'm due out on DL5869 Thurs at 1pm - no news from Delta on travel waivers yet but surely 50mph winds aren't going to be conducive to on-time departures?


I feel you - I'm on 5912 scheduled for 8PM Thursday night. Emphasis on scheduled.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:09 pm

tlecam wrote:
Yes - it was DL. DL definitely oversells flights but they will up the compensation big time to prevent involuntary denied boardings.

If I were going to complain about DL's flights, it's that they have some timing gaps - Morning flights from Boston are at 6:10 and then not until 8:50. I'd love something in the 7:00 hour, but I think DL is gate restricted at ORD.

Same with departures ex-ORD to Boston - there's a 3:45PM flight back to Boston and then an 8:00PM flight back. I'd love something around 5 or 6.

On another note, DL also really needs to expand the Sky Club at ORD. Regularly has long lines outside waiting to get in.


This is the huge comparison point for me. I typically fly for business and the schedule beats the onboard product any day of the week (not saying DL has a better onboard product, ESPECIALLY comparing DL connection to AA/UA mainline). If I can rest for an extra 30 mins and take the 7am instead of the 6:10am I'm all over that. Same thing for Thursday nights -- If I can take a 6pm and get back two hours earlier it could be on Spirit and I'm still booking over a DL 8pm.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:45 pm

clrd4t8koff wrote:
jworks158 wrote:
tlecam wrote:
It's a mix of 170 and 175.


Surprised, for such a big/important route.

Though interesting that the only airline with a BOS "HUB" is the only airline offering BOS-ORD on a regional jet.


Is this considered a bad thing? The E75 in Y is much more comfortable than the AA 738 or UA A320/319, 737’s in Y.



Agreed. The Embraer RJs are actually quite comfortable, and DL has a FC cabin, the E+ seats and WiFi capability. No TV screens though.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:56 pm

OneX123 wrote:
tlecam wrote:
Yes - it was DL. DL definitely oversells flights but they will up the compensation big time to prevent involuntary denied boardings.

If I were going to complain about DL's flights, it's that they have some timing gaps - Morning flights from Boston are at 6:10 and then not until 8:50. I'd love something in the 7:00 hour, but I think DL is gate restricted at ORD.

Same with departures ex-ORD to Boston - there's a 3:45PM flight back to Boston and then an 8:00PM flight back. I'd love something around 5 or 6.

On another note, DL also really needs to expand the Sky Club at ORD. Regularly has long lines outside waiting to get in.


This is the huge comparison point for me. I typically fly for business and the schedule beats the onboard product any day of the week (not saying DL has a better onboard product, ESPECIALLY comparing DL connection to AA/UA mainline). If I can rest for an extra 30 mins and take the 7am instead of the 6:10am I'm all over that. Same thing for Thursday nights -- If I can take a 6pm and get back two hours earlier it could be on Spirit and I'm still booking over a DL 8pm.


I personally do not get the obsession with "timing gaps" or "shuttle service". For one, there is no such thing as real shuttle service anywhere in the country. Meaning, you cannot just show up and hop on the first available flights to your destination as if it were a subway car or bus. Also, you can always take a brief nap on the airplane whether you depart at 6:10 AM or 8:50 AM.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:55 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
OneX123 wrote:
tlecam wrote:
Yes - it was DL. DL definitely oversells flights but they will up the compensation big time to prevent involuntary denied boardings.

If I were going to complain about DL's flights, it's that they have some timing gaps - Morning flights from Boston are at 6:10 and then not until 8:50. I'd love something in the 7:00 hour, but I think DL is gate restricted at ORD.

Same with departures ex-ORD to Boston - there's a 3:45PM flight back to Boston and then an 8:00PM flight back. I'd love something around 5 or 6.

On another note, DL also really needs to expand the Sky Club at ORD. Regularly has long lines outside waiting to get in.


This is the huge comparison point for me. I typically fly for business and the schedule beats the onboard product any day of the week (not saying DL has a better onboard product, ESPECIALLY comparing DL connection to AA/UA mainline). If I can rest for an extra 30 mins and take the 7am instead of the 6:10am I'm all over that. Same thing for Thursday nights -- If I can take a 6pm and get back two hours earlier it could be on Spirit and I'm still booking over a DL 8pm.


I personally do not get the obsession with "timing gaps" or "shuttle service". For one, there is no such thing as real shuttle service anywhere in the country. Meaning, you cannot just show up and hop on the first available flights to your destination as if it were a subway car or bus. Also, you can always take a brief nap on the airplane whether you depart at 6:10 AM or 8:50 AM.


I disagree and think this is the big difference between frequent fliers and non frequent fliers...

1. If you have status you typically can hop on an earlier flight if you arrive to the airport early. If you can't get confirmed on the earlier flight, you can get on the waitlist (and the higher the status the better the chance). I do this often on Thursday afternoons (if a meeting gets cancelled I can go to the airport 2hrs earlier)

2. A brief nap will suffice for a week. However, speaking from experience, the difference between a 6am and 7am departure every Monday for a few months can be completely exhausting.

Monday and thursday flights bewteen ORD and BOS markets I'm sure cater mostly business travelers...
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:58 pm

OneX123 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
OneX123 wrote:

This is the huge comparison point for me. I typically fly for business and the schedule beats the onboard product any day of the week (not saying DL has a better onboard product, ESPECIALLY comparing DL connection to AA/UA mainline). If I can rest for an extra 30 mins and take the 7am instead of the 6:10am I'm all over that. Same thing for Thursday nights -- If I can take a 6pm and get back two hours earlier it could be on Spirit and I'm still booking over a DL 8pm.


I personally do not get the obsession with "timing gaps" or "shuttle service". For one, there is no such thing as real shuttle service anywhere in the country. Meaning, you cannot just show up and hop on the first available flights to your destination as if it were a subway car or bus. Also, you can always take a brief nap on the airplane whether you depart at 6:10 AM or 8:50 AM.


I disagree and think this is the big difference between frequent fliers and non frequent fliers...

1. If you have status you typically can hop on an earlier flight if you arrive to the airport early. If you can't get confirmed on the earlier flight, you can get on the waitlist (and the higher the status the better the chance). I do this often on Thursday afternoons (if a meeting gets cancelled I can go to the airport 2hrs earlier)

2. A brief nap will suffice for a week. However, speaking from experience, the difference between a 6am and 7am departure every Monday for a few months can be completely exhausting.

Monday and thursday flights bewteen ORD and BOS markets I'm sure cater mostly business travelers...


That's a good point about status, but I don't think JetBlue lets you standby for free even with Mosaic status.
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:17 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
OneX123 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

I personally do not get the obsession with "timing gaps" or "shuttle service". For one, there is no such thing as real shuttle service anywhere in the country. Meaning, you cannot just show up and hop on the first available flights to your destination as if it were a subway car or bus. Also, you can always take a brief nap on the airplane whether you depart at 6:10 AM or 8:50 AM.


I disagree and think this is the big difference between frequent fliers and non frequent fliers...

1. If you have status you typically can hop on an earlier flight if you arrive to the airport early. If you can't get confirmed on the earlier flight, you can get on the waitlist (and the higher the status the better the chance). I do this often on Thursday afternoons (if a meeting gets cancelled I can go to the airport 2hrs earlier)

2. A brief nap will suffice for a week. However, speaking from experience, the difference between a 6am and 7am departure every Monday for a few months can be completely exhausting.

Monday and thursday flights bewteen ORD and BOS markets I'm sure cater mostly business travelers...


That's a good point about status, but I don't think JetBlue lets you standby for free even with Mosaic status.


I think you can do free same day flight change as a mosaic.

On the topic of BOS-ORD, it seems to me that B6 could use a better schedule still. Problem is their lack of gate situation at ORD.
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:27 pm

tphuang wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
OneX123 wrote:

I disagree and think this is the big difference between frequent fliers and non frequent fliers...

1. If you have status you typically can hop on an earlier flight if you arrive to the airport early. If you can't get confirmed on the earlier flight, you can get on the waitlist (and the higher the status the better the chance). I do this often on Thursday afternoons (if a meeting gets cancelled I can go to the airport 2hrs earlier)

2. A brief nap will suffice for a week. However, speaking from experience, the difference between a 6am and 7am departure every Monday for a few months can be completely exhausting.

Monday and thursday flights bewteen ORD and BOS markets I'm sure cater mostly business travelers...


That's a good point about status, but I don't think JetBlue lets you standby for free even with Mosaic status.


I think you can do free same day flight change as a mosaic.

On the topic of BOS-ORD, it seems to me that B6 could use a better schedule still. Problem is their lack of gate situation at ORD.


Standby is $75. Not waved for Mosaic. https://help.jetblue.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/w ... obj(383871)
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:10 pm

B6's morning times from Boston to ORD are slightly better than DL - they have a 6:44 (which is about 30 minutes later) but then nothing until 9AM.

The return in evenings is a big problem - they used to have an evening departure, but now their latest flight leaves at 3:40. I'm not sure when they dropped the 9PM flight.

I generally prefer schedule over other factors. BOS-ORD is unique for me - I have status on DL and none with UA or AA and I have the flexibility currently to make their schedule work, gaps and all. However, if I'm going to be doing a commute regularly over a period of months, I agree with OneX 100%. At a macro level, for my travel to the most frequent cities, DL provides by far the most direct options at business traveler friendly times. I have a mix of large city (NYC/ORD/SFO) and smaller city (CMH, CLE) destinations plus international, primarily to Europe and occasionally to India. I also anticipate some travel to Japan coming up.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:18 pm

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Standby is $75. Not waved for Mosaic. https://help.jetblue.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/w ... obj(383871)


I'm still kind of mad about this. Same day standby on B6 used to be free for anyone...even non Mosiacs. I feel like it's crazy now they even charge people with status for it.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:40 am

Dieuwer wrote:
tphuang wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

That's a good point about status, but I don't think JetBlue lets you standby for free even with Mosaic status.


I think you can do free same day flight change as a mosaic.

On the topic of BOS-ORD, it seems to me that B6 could use a better schedule still. Problem is their lack of gate situation at ORD.


Standby is $75. Not waved for Mosaic. https://help.jetblue.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/w ... obj(383871)



Mosaic can go 1 flight earlier for free. If you are on the 2pm shuttle and want to go on the 1 you can for free as a mosaic. All others are 75 bucks.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:53 am

Dieuwer wrote:
tphuang wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

That's a good point about status, but I don't think JetBlue lets you standby for free even with Mosaic status.


I think you can do free same day flight change as a mosaic.

On the topic of BOS-ORD, it seems to me that B6 could use a better schedule still. Problem is their lack of gate situation at ORD.


Standby is $75. Not waved for Mosaic. https://help.jetblue.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/w ... obj(383871)



As it turns out, this is not correct. Mosaics can make same day changes free of charge AND get waitlisted for free. Heck, they even get their own waitlist code in case the flight is full, so they get the highest priority.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:06 am

Bluewho wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
tphuang wrote:

I think you can do free same day flight change as a mosaic.

On the topic of BOS-ORD, it seems to me that B6 could use a better schedule still. Problem is their lack of gate situation at ORD.


Standby is $75. Not waved for Mosaic. https://help.jetblue.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/w ... obj(383871)



Mosaic can go 1 flight earlier for free. If you are on the 2pm shuttle and want to go on the 1 you can for free as a mosaic. All others are 75 bucks.


Also if you buy or redeem TrueBlue points for Blue Plus fare - same day standby is free.
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Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:20 pm

Did I forget that DL announced starting Miami in December? I just read this article which makes mention of it. https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-pla ... am-tie-up/
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:48 pm

tlecam wrote:
Did I forget that DL announced starting Miami in December? I just read this article which makes mention of it. https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-pla ... am-tie-up/


Sadly you did, it was announced in May with also daily to SRQ and 6 weekly to Punta Cana

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... i%20Boston
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:10 am

Looking at the above link, it seems that keeping the same flight number for both southbound and northbound segments isn’t altogether an unusual thing.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:19 am

Not sure if we've discussed a hard date for this, but I saw a sign outside the entrance to BOS via the Ted Williams saying that AS will be moving to Terminal B starting 10/16. Are they planning on closing off the C40-42 area right afterwards for the B to C connector? My mind is blanking if B6 still operates from one or two of those gates.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:54 pm

mikegigs wrote:
Not sure if we've discussed a hard date for this, but I saw a sign outside the entrance to BOS via the Ted Williams saying that AS will be moving to Terminal B starting 10/16. Are they planning on closing off the C40-42 area right afterwards for the B to C connector? My mind is blanking if B6 still operates from one or two of those gates.


The B to C connector is starting construction very soon (if it hasn't already). That whole area is going to be closed for 20-22 months while the expansion project is going.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:56 pm

B752OS wrote:
mikegigs wrote:
Not sure if we've discussed a hard date for this, but I saw a sign outside the entrance to BOS via the Ted Williams saying that AS will be moving to Terminal B starting 10/16. Are they planning on closing off the C40-42 area right afterwards for the B to C connector? My mind is blanking if B6 still operates from one or two of those gates.


The B to C connector is starting construction very soon (if it hasn't already). That whole area is going to be closed for 20-22 months while the expansion project is going.


I can’t find which months board meeting showed it as i am on my phone and it’s not easy to navigate, but C40-C42 and C25 will be shut down for that period.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:58 pm

AA continues some winter month YoY flight reductions. Doesn’t consider gauge, but I’m curious what Jan flights look like into a few of these business markets


AA BOS-DCA JAN 13>10[12] FEB 14>12[14]
AA BOS-DFW JAN 6>5[5]
AA BOS-JFK JAN 5>3[4] FEB 6>5[4]
AA BOS-LGA JAN 11>9[10]
AA BOS-ORD JAN 6>5[6]
AA BOS-PHL JAN 11>9[11]

Using Monday, Jan 13 as an example for flights departing BOS. This doesn’t take into account aircraft gauge and discrepancies between OAG averages per day vs actual for a specific day can be due to fluctuations in daily departures throughout the month. This is purely frequency metrics.

To DCA: AA 13, B6 15, DL 7
To LGA: AA:12 B6:6 DL:17
To JFK: AA:3 B6:6 DL:7
To ORD: AA:6 B6:6 DL:5 UA: 7
To PHL: AA:11 B6:8 DL:6


Of all of these, ORD surprised me the most. I would have thoughtUA and especially AA had more frequencies.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:36 pm

tlecam wrote:
AA continues some winter month YoY flight reductions. Doesn’t consider gauge, but I’m curious what Jan flights look like into a few of these business markets


AA BOS-DCA JAN 13>10[12] FEB 14>12[14]
AA BOS-DFW JAN 6>5[5]
AA BOS-JFK JAN 5>3[4] FEB 6>5[4]
AA BOS-LGA JAN 11>9[10]
AA BOS-ORD JAN 6>5[6]
AA BOS-PHL JAN 11>9[11]

Using Monday, Jan 13 as an example for flights departing BOS. This doesn’t take into account aircraft gauge and discrepancies between OAG averages per day vs actual for a specific day can be due to fluctuations in daily departures throughout the month. This is purely frequency metrics.

To DCA: AA 13, B6 15, DL 7
To LGA: AA:12 B6:6 DL:17
To JFK: AA:3 B6:6 DL:7
To ORD: AA:6 B6:6 DL:5 UA: 7
To PHL: AA:11 B6:8 DL:6


Of all of these, ORD surprised me the most. I would have thoughtUA and especially AA had more frequencies.


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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:16 pm

tlecam wrote:
Of all of these, ORD surprised me the most. I would have thoughtUA and especially AA had more frequencies.


Way back when (and I’m old enough to remember), UA boasted ‘hourly’ flights to ORD and they were all (or nearly all) DC-10s.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:44 pm

tlecam wrote:
AA continues some winter month YoY flight reductions. Doesn’t consider gauge, but I’m curious what Jan flights look like into a few of these business markets


AA BOS-DCA JAN 13>10[12] FEB 14>12[14]
AA BOS-DFW JAN 6>5[5]
AA BOS-JFK JAN 5>3[4] FEB 6>5[4]
AA BOS-LGA JAN 11>9[10]
AA BOS-ORD JAN 6>5[6]
AA BOS-PHL JAN 11>9[11]

Using Monday, Jan 13 as an example for flights departing BOS. This doesn’t take into account aircraft gauge and discrepancies between OAG averages per day vs actual for a specific day can be due to fluctuations in daily departures throughout the month. This is purely frequency metrics.

To DCA: AA 13, B6 15, DL 7
To LGA: AA:12 B6:6 DL:17
To JFK: AA:3 B6:6 DL:7
To ORD: AA:6 B6:6 DL:5 UA: 7
To PHL: AA:11 B6:8 DL:6


Of all of these, ORD surprised me the most. I would have thoughtUA and especially AA had more frequencies.


WN has 4 frequencies to MDW, and 9 to BWI on the mentioned day. Thought it was worth mentioning.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:20 am

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-11oct19/

KLM increasing from 4w to 5w for the new summer season, looks like the new day is Tuesday, so x46 now.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:42 am

Boston Public Market is to open a branch in Terminal C with several vendors from the main facility represented:

https://boston.eater.com/2019/10/11/209 ... rt-vendors

Doesn't explicitly describe where it is, but I am assuming it has to be the space behind Starbucks (between C26 and C28)?
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:09 pm

Looks like EVA Air (BR) is considering Boston: https://udn.com/news/story/7241/4092165
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:18 pm

I think BOS has been on EVA's radar for quite some time, I seem to recall another article a few years back that said they were considering BOS. CI was also rumored to be interested in BOS
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:18 am

aaflyer777 wrote:
I think BOS has been on EVA's radar for quite some time, I seem to recall another article a few years back that said they were considering BOS. CI was also rumored to be interested in BOS


They may be too late to the party.

BR's (EVA) 789's and 77W are somewhat dense compared to other East Asian carriers serving BOS and they don't have the connecting power that HKG or ICN. The BOS-TPE O+D is smaller too. There are only 4800 Taiwanese-Americans in Greater Boston.

789 - J26 Y278 Total 304
77W- J34 Y+56 Y238 Total 333 (ORD/IAH-TPE config)

KE 789 - 24J 247Y Total 271
CX 77W F6 J53 Y+34 Y182 Total 275

In IAH and have been filling the plane (89% for Jan-April 2019). ORD was at 79% in the same time period with less frequency. These are both *A hub-hub routes but there is not a JV between the two carriers.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:47 am

MassPort is making it difficult for GA to fly into BOS. You’re going to have to give 72 hours notice, can’t park for more than 4 hours, and no overnight parking.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:59 am

737tanker wrote:
MassPort is making it difficult for GA to fly into BOS. You’re going to have to give 72 hours notice, can’t park for more than 4 hours, and no overnight parking.


Yowling Hanscom residents in 3...2...1...
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:55 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
They may be too late to the party.

I would argue it's now or never. Because of the troubles in Hong Kong there's going to be room for a new carrier to pick up all of those passengers that are avoiding connecting in HKG.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:15 pm

airbazar wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
They may be too late to the party.

I would argue it's now or never. Because of the troubles in Hong Kong there's going to be room for a new carrier to pick up all of those passengers that are avoiding connecting in HKG.


I think the weakness in HKG will persist for a while. TPE is a pretty good transit point to southeast asia and Australia, much better than NRT/ICN if you look at the frequency of flights from TPE to the various Southeast Asia destinations and it's a really nice airport. The only problem is TPE is not as large of a business center as some of the heavy weights around which would limit the high yielding premium cabin O&D stuff.

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