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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:51 pm

tphuang wrote:
airbazar wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
They may be too late to the party.

I would argue it's now or never. Because of the troubles in Hong Kong there's going to be room for a new carrier to pick up all of those passengers that are avoiding connecting in HKG.


I think the weakness in HKG will persist for a while. TPE is a pretty good transit point to southeast asia and Australia, much better than NRT/ICN if you look at the frequency of flights from TPE to the various Southeast Asia destinations and it's a really nice airport. The only problem is TPE is not as large of a business center as some of the heavy weights around which would limit the high yielding premium cabin O&D stuff.


You forgot China (and India). Although both are too far south TPE is a better hub to connect to China than HKG which is even further south. And it would add the sorely missed (IMO), BOS-Asia Star Alliance link.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:24 pm

Why is TPE not a large business center? I the Taiwan economy not booming?
Another unrelated question: does anyone know which BA flight from BOS has/will have the new J seats?
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:39 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
Why is TPE not a large business center? I the Taiwan economy not booming?

Just my personal experience visiting there that there is a pretty small North American/European expat population there compared to Tokyo, HK, Singapore (and even Shanghai) which typically shows how much business demand there are from these countries. It just doesn't have the well established market size of Japan or China, nor does it have the international financial/law center reputation of HK or Singapore. There is also less English speaking population in Taipei than HK (since it was British colony) and Singapore (since official language is English). Also it doesn't fully open up its financial system to international trade like Singapore does.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:57 pm

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Looking at the above link, it seems that keeping the same flight number for both southbound and northbound segments isn’t altogether an unusual thing.


DL is doing it with a number of flights I've taken lately - seems to be the case that they do it when it's the same plane.

I've been doing BOS-ORD and it's been the same flight number both way.s
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:59 pm

Three Things

1.Today B6 started Boston A321neo revenue service on the BOS-SFO route. https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/status/1184176054585483265?s=20

Two Items via Edward Russell

2. AA has cut some BOS shuttle benefits. https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/1184196628753866758?s=20

3. Tomorrow 9K is holding a press event introducing the new P2012 https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/1184231586541244419?s=20
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:50 pm

jworks158 wrote:
Three Things

1.Today B6 started Boston A321neo revenue service on the BOS-SFO route. https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/status/1184176054585483265?s=20

Two Items via Edward Russell

2. AA has cut some BOS shuttle benefits. https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/1184196628753866758?s=20

3. Tomorrow 9K is holding a press event introducing the new P2012 https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/1184231586541244419?s=20


A spokesman for AA responded to his tweet saying it was still part of the product and to give him his flight numbers.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:53 pm

B752OS wrote:
jworks158 wrote:
Three Things

1.Today B6 started Boston A321neo revenue service on the BOS-SFO route. https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/status/1184176054585483265?s=20

Two Items via Edward Russell

2. AA has cut some BOS shuttle benefits. https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/1184196628753866758?s=20

3. Tomorrow 9K is holding a press event introducing the new P2012 https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/1184231586541244419?s=20


A spokesman for AA responded to his tweet saying it was still part of the product and to give him his flight numbers.


However when you continue this is specific to BOS only.

It is also noted on AA.com as this is not available at BOS or ORD. https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/experience/american-airlines-shuttle.jsp
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:27 pm

Some interesting information on the new Cape Air P2012 from their event today: https://youtu.be/S9zqfjg3QKc
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:00 pm

jworks158 wrote:
B752OS wrote:
jworks158 wrote:
Three Things

1.Today B6 started Boston A321neo revenue service on the BOS-SFO route. https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/status/1184176054585483265?s=20

Two Items via Edward Russell

2. AA has cut some BOS shuttle benefits. https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/1184196628753866758?s=20

3. Tomorrow 9K is holding a press event introducing the new P2012 https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/1184231586541244419?s=20


A spokesman for AA responded to his tweet saying it was still part of the product and to give him his flight numbers.


However when you continue this is specific to BOS only.

It is also noted on AA.com as this is not available at BOS or ORD. https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/experience/american-airlines-shuttle.jsp

BOS-ORD is not shuttle flights. Flights do not go every other hour on AA to ORD on BOS. PHL is interesting although it is not labeled a shuttle flights. There are flights not exactly every hour but there is a pretty good frequency.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:24 pm

iyerhari wrote:
jworks158 wrote:

However when you continue this is specific to BOS only.

It is also noted on AA.com as this is not available at BOS or ORD. https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/experience/american-airlines-shuttle.jsp

BOS-ORD is not shuttle flights. Flights do not go every other hour on AA to ORD on BOS. PHL is interesting although it is not labeled a shuttle flights. There are flights not exactly every hour but there is a pretty good frequency.


ORD is on the Shuttle page because AA brands LGA-ORD as a Shuttle flight.

I haven't seen them deplane from airstairs in BOS in a long time. DCA, yes.
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:26 am

Just returned from a four-day weekend to London via British Airways. Outbound: 7:15pm A380 to LHR | Return: 7:55pm 777 to BOS

On a rainy Friday night in October (granted Columbus Day weekend), I couldn't believe how full the A380 was. "Completely full flight" according to the crew -- and I couldn't find a seat to be had in the upper deck. Tuesday night return from Heathrow -- on the smaller yet big 777 -- was also completely full.

It really opened my eyes to just how many people are flying the BOS-LHR route, especially after experiencing nearly 100 percent full Delta flights to/from LHR in early July.

The A380 is just an amazing plane, but I'd probably give the edge in cabin experience and service to Delta right now, and the A330 I flew over the summer. It'll be interesting to see how JetBlue manages to impact this market, if at all.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:52 pm

B6 interlining with DY and tickets being sold at each other's websites should bump up Logan's intl pax traffic another notch.
A potential B6/TP/DY venture could form quite the TATL operation.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:40 pm

So for all the Armageddon-speak and preemptive cancellations, weather is very nice here in Boston today. Barely any delays.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:43 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
So for all the Armageddon-speak and preemptive cancellations, weather is very nice here in Boston today. Barely any delays.


It maybe ok to Logan but I can tell you up here on Cape Ann apart from the sun being out, this is not a nice day, 2/3 of my city has no power and trees down everywhere.

I am delighted that Logan isn’t affected, but today sucks wind.
That feeling when you sit at the end of a runway, brakes are released and the raw power takes over. Now that is a thing of beauty and it never gets old.
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:47 pm

VS4ever wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
So for all the Armageddon-speak and preemptive cancellations, weather is very nice here in Boston today. Barely any delays.


It maybe ok to Logan but I can tell you up here on Cape Ann apart from the sun being out, this is not a nice day, 2/3 of my city has no power and trees down everywhere.

I am delighted that Logan isn’t affected, but today sucks wind.


Hope there are still plenty of trees left on Cape Ann as I was planning a foliage trip up there next week :)
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:55 pm

Just wait until the widebodies come in. Wind speed is currently teetering on the edge of door limits for most of them.

Granted pretty much every carrier will still operate as normal, but like all other weather, it slows things down.

Really give me rain or light snow over high winds. The great downside to everything being designed to be so light.
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:10 pm

Don't speak too soon about the nice weather and lack of problems... a WN plane was blown into a jetbridge by the high winds overnight. Looks like the wing made contact with the stairway on the bridge, according to the included photos. Further damage is unclear. Strong winds! No wonder I lost power last night...

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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:31 pm

Delta's hangar at Logan airport sustained serious roof damage overnight. Half of the cover of the roof was ripped off.
https://twitter.com/NBC10Boston/status/ ... 9401458689
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:47 pm

Appears this afternoon that BOS is holding inbound flights until 4:15 due to wind. So far my ORD-BOS flight is on time...but we will see.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:40 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
So for all the Armageddon-speak and preemptive cancellations, weather is very nice here in Boston today. Barely any delays.


It maybe ok to Logan but I can tell you up here on Cape Ann apart from the sun being out, this is not a nice day, 2/3 of my city has no power and trees down everywhere.

I am delighted that Logan isn’t affected, but today sucks wind.


Hope there are still plenty of trees left on Cape Ann as I was planning a foliage trip up there next week :)


Most of the damage was further inland.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:33 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
VS4ever wrote:

It maybe ok to Logan but I can tell you up here on Cape Ann apart from the sun being out, this is not a nice day, 2/3 of my city has no power and trees down everywhere.

I am delighted that Logan isn’t affected, but today sucks wind.


Hope there are still plenty of trees left on Cape Ann as I was planning a foliage trip up there next week :)


Most of the damage was further inland.


Not round here it wasn’t Beverly and Salem got way more hammered with trees and power lines down, compared to Middleton looked like it had a few mere flesh wounds
That feeling when you sit at the end of a runway, brakes are released and the raw power takes over. Now that is a thing of beauty and it never gets old.
 
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Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:43 am

VS4ever wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

Hope there are still plenty of trees left on Cape Ann as I was planning a foliage trip up there next week :)


Most of the damage was further inland.


Not round here it wasn’t Beverly and Salem got way more hammered with trees and power lines down, compared to Middleton looked like it had a few mere flesh wounds


Actually you are peak gusts were on coastline from cape ann to cape cod. Less rain though!!!!
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:49 am

Judging from the JetBlue thread and dummy bookings on JetBlue's site it seems as if they are cutting flights to MEX as of January 8th. Just like that, we are back to not having a route to Mexico City. So, when will Aeromexico return?
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:44 pm

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MassPort is making it difficult for GA to fly into BOS. You’re going to have to give 72 hours notice, can’t park for more than 4 hours, and no overnight parking.


I realize having a c172 lined up ahead of a 744 has always been one of the fun quirky things of BOS but really it's a bit of an operational nuisance.

I remember more than a few instances in which we had to wait to air start a 744 or some other widebody but had to wait because some instructor out of BVY brought a student over in a 172, and is About to taxi by. What other major international airport has the problem of a 172 delaying an international flight with 450 pax?


What the difference between a C172 and the dozens of small twin Cessna flights of Cape Air? Logan has ways of making it work... intersection takeoffs, different routes immediately after takeoff, runway 15L/ 33R etc.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:47 pm

airbazar wrote:
B6 interlining with DY and tickets being sold at each other's websites should bump up Logan's intl pax traffic another notch.
A potential B6/TP/DY venture could form quite the TATL operation.


DY is in great financial distress... selling owned 737-800s, defaulting on bonds...
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:56 pm

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Judging from the JetBlue thread and dummy bookings on JetBlue's site it seems as if they are cutting flights to MEX as of January 8th. Just like that, we are back to not having a route to Mexico City. So, when will Aeromexico return?


I would say Aeromexico's 49% owner will enter BOS-MEX this summer. A220 route????
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:51 pm

RobertS975 wrote:
FGITD wrote:
737tanker wrote:
MassPort is making it difficult for GA to fly into BOS. You’re going to have to give 72 hours notice, can’t park for more than 4 hours, and no overnight parking.


I realize having a c172 lined up ahead of a 744 has always been one of the fun quirky things of BOS but really it's a bit of an operational nuisance.

I remember more than a few instances in which we had to wait to air start a 744 or some other widebody but had to wait because some instructor out of BVY brought a student over in a 172, and is About to taxi by. What other major international airport has the problem of a 172 delaying an international flight with 450 pax?


What the difference between a C172 and the dozens of small twin Cessna flights of Cape Air? Logan has ways of making it work... intersection takeoffs, different routes immediately after takeoff, runway 15L/ 33R etc.


Because Cape Air is extremely good at what they do. In and out, they can do turns in something like 10 minutes so they know their way around and their little alley at C lets them go in and out with minimal interruption.

The GA FBO is near E, in a corner of the airport where unless you just crossed an ocean, you probably aren't too familiar with. It creates more traffic as a result, and since the FBO isn't great are getting things in or out quickly...they sit, and block.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:55 pm

FGITD wrote:
RobertS975 wrote:
FGITD wrote:

I realize having a c172 lined up ahead of a 744 has always been one of the fun quirky things of BOS but really it's a bit of an operational nuisance.

I remember more than a few instances in which we had to wait to air start a 744 or some other widebody but had to wait because some instructor out of BVY brought a student over in a 172, and is About to taxi by. What other major international airport has the problem of a 172 delaying an international flight with 450 pax?


What the difference between a C172 and the dozens of small twin Cessna flights of Cape Air? Logan has ways of making it work... intersection takeoffs, different routes immediately after takeoff, runway 15L/ 33R etc.


Because Cape Air is extremely good at what they do. In and out, they can do turns in something like 10 minutes so they know their way around and their little alley at C lets them go in and out with minimal interruption.

The GA FBO is near E, in a corner of the airport where unless you just crossed an ocean, you probably aren't too familiar with. It creates more traffic as a result, and since the FBO isn't great are getting things in or out quickly...they sit, and block.


I am quite familiar with the GA terminal through first hand use. While Cape Air may slip into their pads at Terminal C with great alacrity, they still need to land on runways, shoot the ILS approach periodically, cross other runways etc. Their use of 10 seat Cessnas and numerous aircraft movements at such a busy airport is insanity.

I assume that these new rules with 72 hour advance notice will apply to G600s as well as C172s?
 
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:56 am

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NickolayAv wrote:
Judging from the JetBlue thread and dummy bookings on JetBlue's site it seems as if they are cutting flights to MEX as of January 8th. Just like that, we are back to not having a route to Mexico City. So, when will Aeromexico return?


I would say Aeromexico's 49% owner will enter BOS-MEX this summer. A220 route????


Why should they? Two other airlines have failed on the route so it’s clearly not a strong performer and with B6 pulling it, there’s even less incentive.

They can sell the seats over Atlanta and other hubs to boost yields in markets that are being trashed by WN.
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:36 pm

Per the weekly OAG thread, looks like KE are indeed moving to Daily for part of next summer at least as had been rumored previously.
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:33 pm

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Per the weekly OAG thread, looks like KE are indeed moving to Daily for part of next summer at least as had been rumored previously.


KE BOS-ICN MAY 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUN 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUL 0.7>1.0[0.7]

Not only is KE going daily on BOS-ICN but they’re also upgauging the flight to a 77W, so BOS will regain F service on KE.

https://www.google.com/flights#flt=/m/0 ... USD.172765
 
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:00 pm

clrd4t8koff wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
Per the weekly OAG thread, looks like KE are indeed moving to Daily for part of next summer at least as had been rumored previously.


KE BOS-ICN MAY 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUN 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUL 0.7>1.0[0.7]

Not only is KE going daily on BOS-ICN but they’re also upgauging the flight to a 77W, so BOS will regain F service on KE.

https://www.google.com/flights#flt=/m/0 ... USD.172765


You think it is partly due to CX struggling?
 
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:15 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
clrd4t8koff wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
Per the weekly OAG thread, looks like KE are indeed moving to Daily for part of next summer at least as had been rumored previously.


KE BOS-ICN MAY 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUN 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUL 0.7>1.0[0.7]

Not only is KE going daily on BOS-ICN but they’re also upgauging the flight to a 77W, so BOS will regain F service on KE.

https://www.google.com/flights#flt=/m/0 ... USD.172765


You think it is partly due to CX struggling?


Partly yes, people need options and NRT on JL isn’t it because they don’t have any more capacity unless they themselves upgauge.
I remember DL coming out and stating it was going well, so was expecting frequency increase but to double down with a gauge increase too is really interesting
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:20 pm

VS4ever wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
clrd4t8koff wrote:

KE BOS-ICN MAY 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUN 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUL 0.7>1.0[0.7]

Not only is KE going daily on BOS-ICN but they’re also upgauging the flight to a 77W, so BOS will regain F service on KE.

https://www.google.com/flights#flt=/m/0 ... USD.172765


You think it is partly due to CX struggling?


Partly yes, people need options and NRT on JL isn’t it because they don’t have any more capacity unless they themselves upgauge.
I remember DL coming out and stating it was going well, so was expecting frequency increase but to double down with a gauge increase too is really interesting


You think it will stick for the rest of 2020 and into 2021?
 
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:32 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

You think it is partly due to CX struggling?


Partly yes, people need options and NRT on JL isn’t it because they don’t have any more capacity unless they themselves upgauge.
I remember DL coming out and stating it was going well, so was expecting frequency increase but to double down with a gauge increase too is really interesting


You think it will stick for the rest of 2020 and into 2021?


The upgauge might, but I don’t think the combo will, I think the frequency will drop back or maybe the other way around, unless the draw from HKG is bigger than we think.
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:26 pm

Do we have CX numbers for the HKG-BOS-HKG? I could see CX reducing flights from daily
 
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:36 pm

I know! Let’s all race to Wikipedia and see what the truth is! :hyper: :rotfl: :hyper:
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:39 pm

georgiabill wrote:
Do we have CX numbers for the HKG-BOS-HKG? I could see CX reducing flights from daily


Latest info we have is up to April 19, numbers vs 18

Jan 95% loads, 15,153 pax up 6%
Feb 83% loads, 11,445 pax down 6%
Mar 91% loads, 15,557 pax up 3.7%
Apr 84% loads, 13,625 pax down 1%

Panic didn’t seem to be set in based on those numbers but the next couple of months info might suggest different
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:05 am

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Dieuwer wrote:
clrd4t8koff wrote:

KE BOS-ICN MAY 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUN 0.7>1.0[0.7] JUL 0.7>1.0[0.7]

Not only is KE going daily on BOS-ICN but they’re also upgauging the flight to a 77W, so BOS will regain F service on KE.

https://www.google.com/flights#flt=/m/0 ... USD.172765


You think it is partly due to CX struggling?


Partly yes, people need options and NRT on JL isn’t it because they don’t have any more capacity unless they themselves upgauge.
I remember DL coming out and stating it was going well, so was expecting frequency increase but to double down with a gauge increase too is really interesting


They will about double the number of premium seats, depending on which 77W config they'll use but it's a decrease in Y seats. So business must be really good. Really makes you wonder, what took them so long to come here?
 
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Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:27 am

They might STILL not be here without the DL relationship.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:44 pm

airbazar wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

You think it is partly due to CX struggling?


Partly yes, people need options and NRT on JL isn’t it because they don’t have any more capacity unless they themselves upgauge.
I remember DL coming out and stating it was going well, so was expecting frequency increase but to double down with a gauge increase too is really interesting


They will about double the number of premium seats, depending on which 77W config they'll use but it's a decrease in Y seats. So business must be really good. Really makes you wonder, what took them so long to come here?


Airlineroute reports, 2x weekly 77W, 5X 789.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:43 pm

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They might STILL not be here without the DL relationship.

They've been code-sharing out of JFK and ATL for years. I don't think the more recent closer relationship makes much of a difference especially from BOS where conx should be too few and far in between.
 
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Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:15 am

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MassPort is making it difficult for GA to fly into BOS. You’re going to have to give 72 hours notice, can’t park for more than 4 hours, and no overnight parking.


I got a little more information on this from a confidential source.

The reason for this change is that a large section of the only FBO at BOS will be turned into a construction staging area.
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Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:47 am

I wonder what JAL is going to be made to do with their 789 since they park it right where construction will be.
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Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:20 am

Yea, turns out signature and most of the parking over there is going to become staging for north gate. Remember seeing that awhile ago, but I focused more so on the sections of the construction that interrupt airline operations.

JAL is going to bounce around from spot to spot as they build, and I think the interim plan is to send it back to a gate overnight to Keep them out of that way.

I believe DHL is also being sent to south cargo, to use one of the areas FedEx currently uses for storage, so I'm thinking that must be by delta's warehouse.

be curious to see what comes of UPS though. Their benefit (and DHL) is that they don't operate docks or a warehouse. So they can go wherever, as long as they can fuel and load.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:19 pm

jworks158 wrote:
737tanker wrote:
MassPort is making it difficult for GA to fly into BOS. You’re going to have to give 72 hours notice, can’t park for more than 4 hours, and no overnight parking.


I got a little more information on this from a confidential source.

The reason for this change is that a large section of the only FBO at BOS will be turned into a construction staging area.



AIN ran a story about it a couple of days ago. The Terminal E construction requires new fuel lines to be run under the Signature ramp so aircraft parking at the FBO will be reduced by about half for at least 12 months.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... space-half
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:57 pm

It's been awhile, so please, allow me to stir up some fun As the airline summer season is officially ending this week.

Definitely some type changes planned for next spring. Mostly up, one or two down. There's also the rumor that a few Longstanding aircraft types that have served BOS-XXX for years will be entirely retired from the route.

Haven't heard anything about any airline flat out leaving. Though it is of course common knowledge that CX is in a precarious situation, no credible news of them packing up shop.

Terminal E does indeed look like it's going to have some new tenants...on the departures side of things.

And everything else I've been told is all ground handling nonsense. Interesting for those who work there, but I highly doubt most of you know, or even care to know who loads what etc etc.
 
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Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:04 pm

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Terminal E does indeed look like it's going to have some new tenants...on the departures side of things.


This is how an airline might get to, say, 200 daily flights at BOS.
 
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Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:42 pm

jetlanta wrote:
FGITD wrote:
Terminal E does indeed look like it's going to have some new tenants...on the departures side of things.


This is how an airline might get to, say, 200 daily flights at BOS.


I'm guessing TAP will probably move back into E too.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:00 pm

FGITD wrote:
And everything else I've been told is all ground handling nonsense. Interesting for those who work there, but I highly doubt most of you know, or even care to know who loads what etc etc.

Shockingly enough, this is one of my areas of interest. If you can, do spill the beans.
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