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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:20 pm

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pitbosflyer wrote:
Flew in on LX 52 last night after a nice European vacation with the family. Arrived at 8pm right in time for the summer night rush at customs. Naturally it was insane, but had a trick up my sleeve. Used the new mobile passport app and was able to get thru in under 5 minutes. We passed the entire immigration hall that was filled to the brim. The best part is its free, and you can use it as an individual or as a family. I paid for the 15 dollar pro version just so I could scan all the passports instead of entering them in manually. We were the only ones in the line, even quicker than the people with Global Entry next to us.

So I guess giving away this tip might not be the best way to keep that line so short. But I figured people that don't have Global Entry would appreciate knowing. The fact that you can use it for the kids without even having to pay anything is fantastic. https://mobilepassport.us/


Yup ... we have been using the free version since last year .... at BOS, I used it twice and both times we were the only family in the line ... and even at JFK, there were just 2-3 folks ahead of us, while Global Entry had 10-12 at least. Mobile Passport rocks! :bigthumbsup:


Same! This is a great trick. Shhhh! LOL
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:22 am

Noticed a UA 787 parked on the ramp between E ad the North Cargo area this morning (Friday), next to where the JL 787 usually parks. Think it was left over from the weather diversions on Wednesday, but surprised it's still here. Yesterday was an even better sight - a UA 764 was parked right next to it. I know these diversions are huge pains in the ass for pax and crew, but as a spotter they're pretty great. ;)

Also, has anyone stumbled across any pics of the renovations going on at the north side of B? Excited to see it when its finished soon.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:17 pm

mikegigs wrote:
Noticed a UA 787 parked on the ramp between E ad the North Cargo area this morning (Friday), next to where the JL 787 usually parks. Think it was left over from the weather diversions on Wednesday, but surprised it's still here. Yesterday was an even better sight - a UA 764 was parked right next to it. I know these diversions are huge pains in the ass for pax and crew, but as a spotter they're pretty great. ;)

Also, has anyone stumbled across any pics of the renovations going on at the north side of B? Excited to see it when its finished soon.


Looks like this was the 787:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /LLBG/KEWR
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:19 pm

Recently I noticed an Iberia plane sit in the parking lot between E and cargo. Why would it be there? I thought it turns around quickly after arrival?
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:05 am

mikegigs wrote:
Noticed a UA 787 parked on the ramp between E ad the North Cargo area this morning (Friday), next to where the JL 787 usually parks. Think it was left over from the weather diversions on Wednesday, but surprised it's still here. Yesterday was an even better sight - a UA 764 was parked right next to it. I know these diversions are huge pains in the ass for pax and crew, but as a spotter they're pretty great. ;)

Also, has anyone stumbled across any pics of the renovations going on at the north side of B? Excited to see it when its finished soon.


I have info/pictures on both subjects

1. UA 787-10:
I was picking up a family member at the airport thursday night when I heard over the radio that an emergency was inbound. So I proceeded to the top floor of the central garage to take photos. After landing they turned on to Taxiway E, and were met by a full response from Massport Fire/Airport opps. After a little bit they all proceeded down Kilo, while they waited for a UA gate capable of the 787-10 to become cleared, that is where they parked.

I have learned from some sources that it was a mechanical. It was operating UA999 EWR-BRU operated on N14001.

Photos:https://twitter.com/theorangetechie/status/1159688561832202241?s=12 this was my first time attempting to take DSLR's at night so they need some work, but it was a nice catch!

2. Terminal B Photos:
One of the photos I took on thursday night shows the LAA section of B. I also had a family member take photos from terminal C 2 weeks ago. Interestingly at that time at least the spirit jet ways were no longer attached. The same family member got an awesome shot of the two A380's at E11, and E12 respectively on takeoff from 33L

Photos: https://twitter.com/theorangetechie/status/1160355450992414720?s=12
(A359,A343/A346,A332,A319/320/321,A220-100)(B788,B772,B762,B752,B744/B748,B732/B737/B738,B717)(E190,E145)(CRJ100/200, Dash 8-200)(MD-83)
JB,UA(C5,EV,CHQ,AX),AA(EGF,ZW,AX,PT),DL(OH,YX),FL,WN,LH,BA,AF,AZ,IB,VX,CO
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:21 pm

From Enilria's OAG thread - not too much. DL is slightly increasing February flights to MCI (which, I think, accounts for one additional day of flying per week) and 4x daily to PIT rather than 3. The PIT route has convenient timings for both business travelers and for connections. Interestingly, I was playing around with some fares and on Thursday, Feb 13th, they're running 5 flights from BOS-PIT - a 6AM, 10AM, 1:30PM, 4:30PM and 8:10PM.

DL BOS-MCI JAN 2>1.7[1.5] FEB 2>1.7[1.5]
DL BOS-PIT FEB 3>4[3]
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:43 am

jworks158 wrote:
mikegigs wrote:
Noticed a UA 787 parked on the ramp between E ad the North Cargo area this morning (Friday), next to where the JL 787 usually parks. Think it was left over from the weather diversions on Wednesday, but surprised it's still here. Yesterday was an even better sight - a UA 764 was parked right next to it. I know these diversions are huge pains in the ass for pax and crew, but as a spotter they're pretty great. ;)

Also, has anyone stumbled across any pics of the renovations going on at the north side of B? Excited to see it when its finished soon.


I have info/pictures on both subjects

1. UA 787-10:
I was picking up a family member at the airport thursday night when I heard over the radio that an emergency was inbound. So I proceeded to the top floor of the central garage to take photos. After landing they turned on to Taxiway E, and were met by a full response from Massport Fire/Airport opps. After a little bit they all proceeded down Kilo, while they waited for a UA gate capable of the 787-10 to become cleared, that is where they parked.

I have learned from some sources that it was a mechanical. It was operating UA999 EWR-BRU operated on N14001.

Photos:https://twitter.com/theorangetechie/status/1159688561832202241?s=12 this was my first time attempting to take DSLR's at night so they need some work, but it was a nice catch!

2. Terminal B Photos:
One of the photos I took on thursday night shows the LAA section of B. I also had a family member take photos from terminal C 2 weeks ago. Interestingly at that time at least the spirit jet ways were no longer attached. The same family member got an awesome shot of the two A380's at E11, and E12 respectively on takeoff from 33L

Photos: https://twitter.com/theorangetechie/status/1160355450992414720?s=12


Wow - great photos! Thanks!

I think people on here were discussing how NK was operating from alternate gates in B lately so i wonder if they are replacing their jetways to go along with the rennovations and have just temporarily relocated them. Still in awe seeing the two A380s next to each other. Who would have thought ten years ago.
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Aircraft: 733, 735, 73G, 738, 752, 717, A319, A320, MD-88, E190, E175, E145, CRJ-200, CRJ-700, Q400
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:16 pm

mikegigs wrote:
jworks158 wrote:
mikegigs wrote:
Noticed a UA 787 parked on the ramp between E ad the North Cargo area this morning (Friday), next to where the JL 787 usually parks. Think it was left over from the weather diversions on Wednesday, but surprised it's still here. Yesterday was an even better sight - a UA 764 was parked right next to it. I know these diversions are huge pains in the ass for pax and crew, but as a spotter they're pretty great. ;)

Also, has anyone stumbled across any pics of the renovations going on at the north side of B? Excited to see it when its finished soon.


I have info/pictures on both subjects

1. UA 787-10:
I was picking up a family member at the airport thursday night when I heard over the radio that an emergency was inbound. So I proceeded to the top floor of the central garage to take photos. After landing they turned on to Taxiway E, and were met by a full response from Massport Fire/Airport opps. After a little bit they all proceeded down Kilo, while they waited for a UA gate capable of the 787-10 to become cleared, that is where they parked.

I have learned from some sources that it was a mechanical. It was operating UA999 EWR-BRU operated on N14001.

Photos:https://twitter.com/theorangetechie/status/1159688561832202241?s=12 this was my first time attempting to take DSLR's at night so they need some work, but it was a nice catch!

2. Terminal B Photos:
One of the photos I took on thursday night shows the LAA section of B. I also had a family member take photos from terminal C 2 weeks ago. Interestingly at that time at least the spirit jet ways were no longer attached. The same family member got an awesome shot of the two A380's at E11, and E12 respectively on takeoff from 33L

Photos: https://twitter.com/theorangetechie/status/1160355450992414720?s=12


Wow - great photos! Thanks!

I think people on here were discussing how NK was operating from alternate gates in B lately so i wonder if they are replacing their jetways to go along with the rennovations and have just temporarily relocated them. Still in awe seeing the two A380s next to each other. Who would have thought ten years ago.


True on the 380's, but let's remember, it's quite feasible if BA continue their pattern that we will see 3 of them on the ground next summer at E10/E11 and E12.. that's going to be an amazing sight when/if it happens.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:30 pm

3 A380's Inbound today

It appears Norwegian has decided to wet lease the Hi Fly A380 for the FCO-BOS flight. We assume this is because one of their FCO 788's had an engine failure this weekend.

This all being said it is taking quite a lengthy delay, the A380 is currently scheduled to depart BOS about 10hrs late at 4:00am.

Sources in my tweet: https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/sta ... 46048?s=20
(A359,A343/A346,A332,A319/320/321,A220-100)(B788,B772,B762,B752,B744/B748,B732/B737/B738,B717)(E190,E145)(CRJ100/200, Dash 8-200)(MD-83)
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:24 pm

jworks158 wrote:
3 A380's Inbound today

It appears Norwegian has decided to wet lease the Hi Fly A380 for the FCO-BOS flight. We assume this is because one of their FCO 788's had an engine failure this weekend.

This all being said it is taking quite a lengthy delay, the A380 is currently scheduled to depart BOS about 10hrs late at 4:00am.

Sources in my tweet: https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/sta ... 46048?s=20


Update it now appears to be a 6:10am departure from FCO on tuesday, and a 11:05am departure from BOS
https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/status/1160905182126989312?s=20
(A359,A343/A346,A332,A319/320/321,A220-100)(B788,B772,B762,B752,B744/B748,B732/B737/B738,B717)(E190,E145)(CRJ100/200, Dash 8-200)(MD-83)
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:30 pm

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Still in awe seeing the two A380s next to each other. Who would have thought ten years ago.

Actually it's taken 10 years to finally materialize. I think 10 years ago most of us were expecting AF/LH/BA to operate the A380 to Boston, and maybe even VS. On top of that EK with their massive order was also in the "pipeline". Many people believed that the 744's operating here would be replaced by an A380.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:42 pm

Looks like CX is a casualty of the upheaval in Hong Kong. Seeing that these flights operate nearly 100% full, that's a lot of people new itineraries need to be crafted for.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:47 pm

EK77WNH wrote:
Looks like CX is a casualty of the upheaval in Hong Kong. Seeing that these flights operate nearly 100% full, that's a lot of people new itineraries need to be crafted for.


Sounds like an opportunity for EK and KE to (permanently) upgauge. Or perhaps a completely new airliner: BR, CA, CI, etc.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:33 pm

If getting people in/out of HK is an issue it won't matter who the carrier is.

The fact remains though that BOS-HKG is a very popular route! I've personally flown BOS-DXB-HKG in the past.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:41 pm

Yup, issue is with the demonstrations; the airport shut down. When the protestors got word that the police were potentially going to target mass arrests, they spread out to the streets and shut down traffic. Going to be dicey getting to/from HK for awhile, I think.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:19 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
EK77WNH wrote:
Looks like CX is a casualty of the upheaval in Hong Kong. Seeing that these flights operate nearly 100% full, that's a lot of people new itineraries need to be crafted for.


Sounds like an opportunity for EK and KE to (permanently) upgauge. Or perhaps a completely new airliner: BR, CA, CI, etc.

Isn't the airport itself closed? What difference would it make for other carriers to upgauge if the ultimate destination airport is closed due to demonstrations? Unless there are tourists who have made alternate plans to visit another destination - which is a different discussion altogether.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:28 pm

Quick question please,
My wife and I are coming into Boston Sat. morn. from a cruise, and she wants to take a tour of Boston that would get us to Delta terminal at 2:00. Would that be enough time for a 4:10 flt out ?
Thanks in advance
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:39 pm

Capn wrote:
Quick question please,
My wife and I are coming into Boston Sat. morn. from a cruise, and she wants to take a tour of Boston that would get us to Delta terminal at 2:00. Would that be enough time for a 4:10 flt out ?
Thanks in advance


Obviously can't make any promises. But for a domestic flight on Delta I would say you'll have no problem with that much time. I tend to show up an hour or so before my domestic flights in BOS.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:44 pm

iyerhari wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
EK77WNH wrote:
Looks like CX is a casualty of the upheaval in Hong Kong. Seeing that these flights operate nearly 100% full, that's a lot of people new itineraries need to be crafted for.


Sounds like an opportunity for EK and KE to (permanently) upgauge. Or perhaps a completely new airliner: BR, CA, CI, etc.

Isn't the airport itself closed? What difference would it make for other carriers to upgauge if the ultimate destination airport is closed due to demonstrations? Unless there are tourists who have made alternate plans to visit another destination - which is a different discussion altogether.


My post is about CX as a connection airline, i.e. BOS-HKG-XXX. If people start booking away from CX due to perceived problems, other airlines may benefit.
Several posters in the "CAAC" thread have questioned the survivablity of CX, viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1428881
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:11 pm

Capn wrote:
Quick question please,
My wife and I are coming into Boston Sat. morn. from a cruise, and she wants to take a tour of Boston that would get us to Delta terminal at 2:00. Would that be enough time for a 4:10 flt out ?
Thanks in advance


Should be OK if there are no delays due to traffic etc. Coming off a cruise, you will obviously have checked luggage. And you didn't mention whether you have TSA pre-check ability, domestic or international flight etc?
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:05 pm

Coming into Logan on Southwest Sunday night. Guessing I'm still going to be arriving at the old gates in Terminal A? If it IS Terminal B by then, I'll be sure to get lots of pics!
 
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:49 pm

B6BOSfan wrote:
Coming into Logan on Southwest Sunday night. Guessing I'm still going to be arriving at the old gates in Terminal A? If it IS Terminal B by then, I'll be sure to get lots of pics!


I think you will be about 2 months early, my guess is it won't be done until the beginning of October. I will be interested to see the progress when i head over to the satellite on 9/19 for my DL flight to AMS.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:20 am

Dieuwer wrote:
iyerhari wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

Sounds like an opportunity for EK and KE to (permanently) upgauge. Or perhaps a completely new airliner: BR, CA, CI, etc.

Isn't the airport itself closed? What difference would it make for other carriers to upgauge if the ultimate destination airport is closed due to demonstrations? Unless there are tourists who have made alternate plans to visit another destination - which is a different discussion altogether.


My post is about CX as a connection airline, i.e. BOS-HKG-XXX. If people start booking away from CX due to perceived problems, other airlines may benefit.
Several posters in the "CAAC" thread have questioned the survivablity of CX, viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1428881


I agree (and am in that situation) have a BOS-HKG-SIN flight coming up and am thinking of ways to switch from CX to another OW carrier (QR/JL) just to avoid HKG...
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:51 am

ZincSaucier wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
iyerhari wrote:
Isn't the airport itself closed? What difference would it make for other carriers to upgauge if the ultimate destination airport is closed due to demonstrations? Unless there are tourists who have made alternate plans to visit another destination - which is a different discussion altogether.


My post is about CX as a connection airline, i.e. BOS-HKG-XXX. If people start booking away from CX due to perceived problems, other airlines may benefit.
Several posters in the "CAAC" thread have questioned the survivablity of CX, viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1428881


I agree (and am in that situation) have a BOS-HKG-SIN flight coming up and am thinking of ways to switch from CX to another OW carrier (QR/JL) just to avoid HKG...


Wow this couldn't happen at a worse time - Students in Asia coming to Boston for college.
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:45 pm

VS4ever wrote:
B6BOSfan wrote:
Coming into Logan on Southwest Sunday night. Guessing I'm still going to be arriving at the old gates in Terminal A? If it IS Terminal B by then, I'll be sure to get lots of pics!


I think you will be about 2 months early, my guess is it won't be done until the beginning of October. I will be interested to see the progress when i head over to the satellite on 9/19 for my DL flight to AMS.

DL is starting DCA, EWR, ORD Sep 29 as per the current schedules. My understanding is that DL would have reclaimed Terminal A from WN.

Ironically, this also coincides with the new Uber/Lyft rules that will allow for passengers for terminal door drop-offs from 4:00 am till 10:00 am. All other drop-offs after that time will be at the Central Parking garage (similar to LGA).
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:40 pm

VS4ever wrote:
B6BOSfan wrote:
Coming into Logan on Southwest Sunday night. Guessing I'm still going to be arriving at the old gates in Terminal A? If it IS Terminal B by then, I'll be sure to get lots of pics!


I think you will be about 2 months early, my guess is it won't be done until the beginning of October. I will be interested to see the progress when i head over to the satellite on 9/19 for my DL flight to AMS.


Someone posted some pics above on the progress to B North and all of the jetways where attached to the end of B, so it shouldn’t be too much longer. The plan has been for WN to move over sometime in August for the last few months.
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:58 pm

KMCOFlyer wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
B6BOSfan wrote:
Coming into Logan on Southwest Sunday night. Guessing I'm still going to be arriving at the old gates in Terminal A? If it IS Terminal B by then, I'll be sure to get lots of pics!


I think you will be about 2 months early, my guess is it won't be done until the beginning of October. I will be interested to see the progress when i head over to the satellite on 9/19 for my DL flight to AMS.


Someone posted some pics above on the progress to B North and all of the jetways where attached to the end of B, so it shouldn’t be too much longer. The plan has been for WN to move over sometime in August for the last few months.


They were using a crane today to attach another one.
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:23 pm

iyerhari wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
B6BOSfan wrote:
Coming into Logan on Southwest Sunday night. Guessing I'm still going to be arriving at the old gates in Terminal A? If it IS Terminal B by then, I'll be sure to get lots of pics!


I think you will be about 2 months early, my guess is it won't be done until the beginning of October. I will be interested to see the progress when i head over to the satellite on 9/19 for my DL flight to AMS.

DL is starting DCA, EWR, ORD Sep 29 as per the current schedules. My understanding is that DL would have reclaimed Terminal A from WN.

Ironically, this also coincides with the new Uber/Lyft rules that will allow for passengers for terminal door drop-offs from 4:00 am till 10:00 am. All other drop-offs after that time will be at the Central Parking garage (similar to LGA).


I am booked on the 9AM DL flight to ORD on 9/30. So I hope they have gates to operate from!
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:44 pm

Delta to launch daily Manchester and Gatwick from 21st May 2020, 3rd daily Heathrow from 28th March 2020
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:49 pm

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Delta to launch daily Manchester and Gatwick from 21st May 2020, 3rd daily Heathrow from 28th March 2020


That's really MEAN of them to flood the market with seats before JetBlue even gets there :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:56 pm

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Delta to launch daily Manchester and Gatwick from 21st May 2020, 3rd daily Heathrow from 28th March 2020


That's really MEAN of them to flood the market with seats before JetBlue even gets there :lol: :lol: :lol:


I, for one, would still take a Mint seat over DL1 regardless
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:57 pm

User001 wrote:
Delta to launch daily Manchester and Gatwick from 21st May 2020, 3rd daily Heathrow from 28th March 2020

Source?
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:01 pm

NickolayAv wrote:
User001 wrote:
Delta to launch daily Manchester and Gatwick from 21st May 2020, 3rd daily Heathrow from 28th March 2020

Source?


https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/11 ... 24/photo/1
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:07 pm

the source is an internal comms message detailing the changes. Also talks about extra flights on LHR-JFK and Virgin operating LGW-JFK.

The official announcement with times and flight numbers will be on Thursday.
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:17 pm

Wiki is already showing MAN start for DL 21st May 2020. This is phenomenal for DL - probably first of the kind where they do not fly from JFK-MAN but fly to BOS.
DL would now be flying to LHR, LGW, EDI (seasonal) and MAN. Probably the only one remaining would be GLA.
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:21 pm

User001 wrote:
the source is an internal comms message detailing the changes. Also talks about extra flights on LHR-JFK and Virgin operating LGW-JFK.

The official announcement with times and flight numbers will be on Thursday.


Will this be part of a larger 2020 TATL schedule release or will it just be focused on BOS-UK flights?
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:21 pm

Everyone seems to think BOS-LGW is a poke in the eye of JetBlue, but IMHO this is more of a blow to DY.
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:25 pm

iyerhari wrote:
This is phenomenal for DL - probably first of the kind where they do not fly from JFK-MAN but fly to BOS.


Don’t forget their MAN-ATL and MAN-JFK flights are in the care of their JV and part ownership partner, Virgin Atlantic. So *technically* they do serve MAN-JFK.
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:39 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
Everyone seems to think BOS-LGW is a poke in the eye of JetBlue, but IMHO this is more of a blow to DY.


Totally agree with this assessment. Both JetBlue and Delta have very dedicated customers based in the United States. I can't imagine Norwegian does.

Also, looking at fares during off-peak times, Delta, British Airways and even KLM have had cheaper basic fares to Heathrow vs. Norwegian to Gatwick!
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:54 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
NickolayAv wrote:
User001 wrote:
Delta to launch daily Manchester and Gatwick from 21st May 2020, 3rd daily Heathrow from 28th March 2020

Source?


https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/11 ... 24/photo/1


Thank you to the person who used my tweet. It is indeed from an internal communication

Delta will announce:
- 3rd daily London Heathrow to New York JFK from 28 March 2020 (first DL LHR daytime flight)
- New route - London Gatwick to Boston from 21 May 2020 1x daily
- New route - Manchester to Boston from 21 May 2020 1x daily (replacing Virgin Atlantic)
- Virgin Atlantic new route - London Gatwick to New York JFK from 21 May 2020 1x daily

I will be posting the flight times when they are released on Thursday 15 August via airliners and twitter
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:03 pm

I wonder where the LHR slot is coming from for JFK?

Beyond that, great news for Boston. Have they released times? I'm fascinated to what they do WRT to gates at A. Or will they start using E? I could see both the LGW and the MAN flights working with late departures from A.

I wonder if this will have anything to do with the Virgin Flybe acquisition - maybe they're trying to funnel more connecting traffic through MAN?

Looks like Logan's PAX numbers will continue to increase in 2020.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:49 pm

airportugal310 wrote:
EK77WNH wrote:
User001 wrote:
Delta to launch daily Manchester and Gatwick from 21st May 2020, 3rd daily Heathrow from 28th March 2020


That's really MEAN of them to flood the market with seats before JetBlue even gets there :lol: :lol: :lol:


I, for one, would still take a Mint seat over DL1 regardless




Oh no it’s game over for JetBlue.....;)

Lol

Right now it’s going to be all Delta news and it will look like they are killing JetBlue, they will even say so.

You aren’t going to see much from blue until those new gates come online and the 321lrs get here so it’s going to be all DELTA propaganda for a year or so.

We are in the empire strikes back episode of the Boston fight.
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:52 pm

Will this be year round BOS-MAN service? Or just seasonal?
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:08 pm

I think that the reality is that DL and B6 will be fine. Does that mean every single one of these routes will survive? No, I have no idea.

I think the more likely targets will be BA and Norweigian, as Dieuwer pointed out. BA has commanded a lot of the BOS-LHR traffic for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Boston POS move towards DL and eventually B6. WRT to Norwegian at LGW, I think this will be a dog from a fare/performance standpoint until someone folds. I don't see the route supporting both. My guess is that DL will stick it out longer than Norwegian, but who knows.

The VS/DL strategy with LGW is getting interesting. They must be using that as an alternative to LHR given the slot constraints. WIll be interesting to see if that works long term. FOr all practical purposes (at least from my standpoint), I don't really care whether I fly to LHR or LGW when I go to London. LGW has good access to the city...the express runs every 15 minutes.
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:33 pm

tlecam wrote:
I think that the reality is that DL and B6 will be fine. Does that mean every single one of these routes will survive? No, I have no idea.

I think the more likely targets will be BA and Norweigian, as Dieuwer pointed out. BA has commanded a lot of the BOS-LHR traffic for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Boston POS move towards DL and eventually B6. WRT to Norwegian at LGW, I think this will be a dog from a fare/performance standpoint until someone folds. I don't see the route supporting both. My guess is that DL will stick it out longer than Norwegian, but who knows.

The VS/DL strategy with LGW is getting interesting. They must be using that as an alternative to LHR given the slot constraints. WIll be interesting to see if that works long term. FOr all practical purposes (at least from my standpoint), I don't really care whether I fly to LHR or LGW when I go to London. LGW has good access to the city...the express runs every 15 minutes.



Agree.

The “war” between Delta and JetBlue will cause casualties from mainly the other airlines. B6 and Delta will just co exist. But there will be an end to all this Delta growth barring some more gates.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:52 pm

tlecam wrote:
I think that the reality is that DL and B6 will be fine. Does that mean every single one of these routes will survive? No, I have no idea.

I think the more likely targets will be BA and Norweigian, as Dieuwer pointed out. BA has commanded a lot of the BOS-LHR traffic for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Boston POS move towards DL and eventually B6. WRT to Norwegian at LGW, I think this will be a dog from a fare/performance standpoint until someone folds. I don't see the route supporting both. My guess is that DL will stick it out longer than Norwegian, but who knows.

The VS/DL strategy with LGW is getting interesting. They must be using that as an alternative to LHR given the slot constraints. WIll be interesting to see if that works long term. FOr all practical purposes (at least from my standpoint), I don't really care whether I fly to LHR or LGW when I go to London. LGW has good access to the city...the express runs every 15 minutes.


See, i don't think LGW is a poke in the eye at DY, DY have been hugely successful on that route, remembering they are running daily 344 seat 789's with over 85% loads most of the year. This to me smacks more of a shot across the bow of B6, but more of what they did in DUB, extra capacity was needed, EI don't have it, DY don't run it, so DL throw on a 757 and away we go. I see exactly the same angle here, there's more revenue to be had from LGW, there just is, again, throw a 757 on it at low cost and take the money while you can and DY can't expand. I think both will coexist quite happily. LGW runs 40m+ a year pax, there's enough to go around there.

The more interesting point is MAN taking over from VS who have frankly down an abhorrent job of the route, for Christ sake they got beat by MT, before MT went elsewhere and have not picked up the slack,
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Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:36 am

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The more interesting point is MAN taking over from VS who have frankly down an abhorrent job of the route, for Christ sake they got beat by MT, before MT went elsewhere and have not picked up the slack,



Its the smart move to have DL run what should wind up being a 757 daily instead of a 3 weekly A330. Also helps VS to jump on MAN-MIA with the A330 increase LAX or go into another Caribbean route.

I guess we find out Thursday if BOS-MAN will have D1 or not.

BOS-LIS and BOS-EDI are still loaded for S20 too as of right now. I do wonder if BOS-LIS could get cut. They do have 100 757's so maybe not.

Will there be anything else from DL for S20?
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:05 am

I wonder if DL would consider moving JFK-PDL to BOS, seems like an easy way to free up a JFK slot and take advantage of the local market.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:11 am

tlecam wrote:
I wonder where the LHR slot is coming from for JFK?
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Does FlyBe have any LHR slots that could be re-purposed?

tlecam wrote:
I think that the reality is that DL and B6 will be fine. Does that mean every single one of these routes will survive? No, I have no idea.

I think the more likely targets will be BA and Norweigian, as Dieuwer pointed out. BA has commanded a lot of the BOS-LHR traffic for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Boston POS move towards DL and eventually B6. WRT to Norwegian at LGW, I think this will be a dog from a fare/performance standpoint until someone folds. I don't see the route supporting both. My guess is that DL will stick it out longer than Norwegian, but who knows.


What part of BOS-LHR on BA is OD and what part connection traffic? I guess that makes a big difference.

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See, i don't think LGW is a poke in the eye at DY, DY have been hugely successful on that route, remembering they are running daily 344 seat 789's with over 85% loads most of the year. This to me smacks more of a shot across the bow of B6, but more of what they did in DUB, extra capacity was needed, EI don't have it, DY don't run it, so DL throw on a 757 and away we go. I see exactly the same angle here, there's more revenue to be had from LGW, there just is, again, throw a 757 on it at low cost and take the money while you can and DY can't expand. I think both will coexist quite happily. LGW runs 40m+ a year pax, there's enough to go around there,


I guess I am kicking an open door, but filling a DY plane is easy when you charge ultra-low (= loss making) fares. Is DY not in a perpetual need of cash infusions?
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:57 pm

airportugal310 wrote:
EK77WNH wrote:
User001 wrote:
Delta to launch daily Manchester and Gatwick from 21st May 2020, 3rd daily Heathrow from 28th March 2020


That's really MEAN of them to flood the market with seats before JetBlue even gets there :lol: :lol: :lol:


I, for one, would still take a Mint seat over DL1 regardless

Same here. Even in in Y, LGW does nothing for me.
At the end of the day it comes down to whoever gives me a better fare and schedule to LHR.

adamh8297 wrote:
BOS-LIS and BOS-EDI are still loaded for S20 too as of right now. I do wonder if BOS-LIS could get cut. They do have 100 757's so maybe not.

I flew the LIS route this Summer, on a Wednesday both ways and the plane was full, full, full.
But remember, I bought my tickets the week the flight was announced and got the lovely price of ~$400 per ticket with tax, checked luggage, and seat reservation included. It was the steal of the decade :) So whether the yields exist, that's something only DL will know but it's such a short route that I suspect DL will keep it. If nothing else just so they can pad the title of "Boston's largest global carrier" :)

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