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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:47 pm

Saw this Swift Air 737 flying today... WQ 2541 to EWR. Anyone know what she was doing in the area? Don't think it's sport-related, since neither the Bulls or Hawks played a NY team.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ2541
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:28 pm

nomorerjs wrote:
JLN “International” connections via ORD are probably targeted to the recent Caribbean expansion and Canada. Europe is a possibility, but AA is seasonal at ORD except for LHR and CDG (for 50 weeks).

The smaller Midwest markets have been quite successful to DFW and ORD. This is one area where AA has done well against UA.

I would have to believe these flights are more for easier cnx to NE markets such as BOS, NYC, PHL and DC.
I’d think there’s 10x as many daily pax going to those markets over any intl from JLN.
 
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:34 pm

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Galvan316 wrote:


So Icelandair isn't the only carrier packing fish!
(LATAM ships roughly 700 tons of Salmon per week from Chile to Asia, and this is predicted to be a important component of this flight's cargo- see link above)

Starting Feb 19

Great find yeogeo! I hope they will be daytime flights for pics!
I don’t know if this will lead to pax flights but at least it will give them experience in the CHI market.

Also saw that Aer Lingus is using the ASL airlines 757 for the evening DUB flight now. I’m almost certain this is the first time they’ve used the 75 here.
 
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:38 am

ORDfan wrote:
Saw this Swift Air 737 flying today... WQ 2541 to EWR. Anyone know what she was doing in the area? Don't think it's sport-related, since neither the Bulls or Hawks played a NY team.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ2541


DePaul men's basketball to St. John's
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:41 am

drdisque wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
Saw this Swift Air 737 flying today... WQ 2541 to EWR. Anyone know what she was doing in the area? Don't think it's sport-related, since neither the Bulls or Hawks played a NY team.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ2541


DePaul men's basketball to St. John's


Hmm that's a good guess... but DePaul played at St. John's on Saturday, and WQ 2541 I saw was on Sunday outbound to EWR. Did the plane ferry back empty, you think, and why did it have to go back to EWR?
 
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Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:32 am

ORDfan wrote:
drdisque wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
Saw this Swift Air 737 flying today... WQ 2541 to EWR. Anyone know what she was doing in the area? Don't think it's sport-related, since neither the Bulls or Hawks played a NY team.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ2541


DePaul men's basketball to St. John's


Hmm that's a good guess... but DePaul played at St. John's on Saturday, and WQ 2541 I saw was on Sunday outbound to EWR. Did the plane ferry back empty, you think, and why did it have to go back to EWR?


OK, we'll dig deeper and figure it out. Inbound to WQ2541 was WQ9270 which was a ferry FOE-ORD, which was preceded by WQ238 ACT-FOE (returning KU basketball from Baylor). WQ2541 was to bring the Blackhawks to play the Devils tonight. The aircraft then flew EWR-MDW-YWG which I can't make much sense of either (either Rutgers Basketball to Purdue or a ferry) and then MDW-YWG is to bring the Vegas Golden Knights from Chicago where they played Saturday night to the Winnipeg Jets where they play tomorrow night (they probably just decided to stay in Chicago rather than fly cross country twice in 3 days). But based on its patterns that aircraft N806TG is being used solely for sports charters.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:56 pm

In case you hadn't noticed:
Spirit announces RDU<>ORD starting in May
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dw9eAtSUUAEUKzJ.jpg:large
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:52 pm

Anyone in the know have any information as to whether the new de-icing pad is open yet? Looked but haven't found anything and thought if it was indeed open that I would have at least seen a press release. I thought it was scheduled to open in December 2018, and a visual from my flight this past weekend made me think there can't be too much left to do if anything.
 
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Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:01 pm

Aer Lingus sending today B752 instead of A332 as EIN125. ETA 17.55.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:59 pm

sircygnus wrote:
Anyone in the know have any information as to whether the new de-icing pad is open yet? Looked but haven't found anything and thought if it was indeed open that I would have at least seen a press release. I thought it was scheduled to open in December 2018, and a visual from my flight this past weekend made me think there can't be too much left to do if anything.


I was wondering the same thing. For what it's worth I can confirm that I flew out this morning and we deiced at the gate.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:35 am

chicawgo wrote:
sircygnus wrote:
Anyone in the know have any information as to whether the new de-icing pad is open yet? ...


I was wondering the same thing. For what it's worth I can confirm that I flew out this morning and we deiced at the gate.


Funny - I can confirm the same - flew over it on departure this evening; lights were on but no activity. So much for a December opening. They sure could use it; not having it slows gate turnover considerably.
 
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:49 am

drdisque wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
drdisque wrote:

DePaul men's basketball to St. John's


Hmm that's a good guess... but DePaul played at St. John's on Saturday, and WQ 2541 I saw was on Sunday outbound to EWR. Did the plane ferry back empty, you think, and why did it have to go back to EWR?


OK, we'll dig deeper and figure it out. Inbound to WQ2541 was WQ9270 which was a ferry FOE-ORD, which was preceded by WQ238 ACT-FOE (returning KU basketball from Baylor). WQ2541 was to bring the Blackhawks to play the Devils tonight. The aircraft then flew EWR-MDW-YWG which I can't make much sense of either (either Rutgers Basketball to Purdue or a ferry) and then MDW-YWG is to bring the Vegas Golden Knights from Chicago where they played Saturday night to the Winnipeg Jets where they play tomorrow night (they probably just decided to stay in Chicago rather than fly cross country twice in 3 days). But based on its patterns that aircraft N806TG is being used solely for sports charters.


Good stuff...thanks for the in-depth look. Pretty interesting to see this; I guess these charter flights stay busy, even with the occasional dead-head leg!
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:04 am

yeogeo wrote:
chicawgo wrote:
sircygnus wrote:
Anyone in the know have any information as to whether the new de-icing pad is open yet? ...


I was wondering the same thing. For what it's worth I can confirm that I flew out this morning and we deiced at the gate.


Funny - I can confirm the same - flew over it on departure this evening; lights were on but no activity. So much for a December opening. They sure could use it; not having it slows gate turnover considerably.


When I flew out over Christmas, I got to see it. How many de-icing spots did they build? It looked like up to 10-12 planes could be de-iced at a time. Also does anyone know how the system is plumbed? I assume there are underground glycol tanks. Is this operation supplied by the city or by the airlines?
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:39 am

kordcj wrote:
yeogeo wrote:
chicawgo wrote:

I was wondering the same thing. For what it's worth I can confirm that I flew out this morning and we deiced at the gate.


Funny - I can confirm the same - flew over it on departure this evening; lights were on but no activity. So much for a December opening. They sure could use it; not having it slows gate turnover considerably.


When I flew out over Christmas, I got to see it. How many de-icing spots did they build? It looked like up to 10-12 planes could be de-iced at a time. Also does anyone know how the system is plumbed? I assume there are underground glycol tanks. Is this operation supplied by the city or by the airlines?


Yes, the glycol solutions are captured in underground tanks below the de-icing pad and recycled by chemical companies for use again via a drainage return system.

The new centralized deicing facility will have ten separate pads that can accommodate up to two aircraft at a time on each pad. The facility consists of dedicated deicing stations for AA, UA, and all additional stations for other airlines including cargo operation. The de-icing operations will be run by a separate control tower that utilizes an observation deck with 8 console stations controlled by an operator for each of their respective deicing operations.

The pad is tentaively scheduled to open in late January 2019.

gabik001 wrote:
Aer Lingus sending today B752 instead of A332 as EIN125. ETA 17.55.


EI is utilizing the 757 on the days that they run a double daily into ORD, which is W,F, SU. It used on the evening departure on the double daily days. It is expected to go back to two A330's in March.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:34 pm

piedmontf284000 wrote:
the glycol solutions are captured in underground tanks below the de-icing pad and recycled by chemical companies for use again via a drainage return system.

The new centralized deicing facility will have ten separate pads that can accommodate up to two aircraft at a time on each pad. The facility consists of dedicated deicing stations for AA, UA, and all additional stations for other airlines including cargo operation. The de-icing operations will be run by a separate control tower that utilizes an observation deck with 8 console stations controlled by an operator for each of their respective deicing operations. The pad is tentatively scheduled to open in late January 2019.


Great info, piedmont, Thanks for posting that.

Once operational, the pads should make winter operations on the field more efficient, being really important to get the aircraft off their gates for de-icing.
Will be interesting to hear of the first-hand reports here soon. I've always been impressed with Frankfurt's de-icing operation which like O'Hare's, is near the departing runway but is quite a bit smaller (as one would expect).

I wonder how it will affect taxiing times around O'Hare -especially when taking off to the west. Just curious... I'm sure they have plans in place for the flow.
On the other hand, my experience is that many winter storms occur with winds out of the east so the pads are perfectly positioned for that scenario.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:16 pm

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Impressive numbers again.
It looks likely that 80 million pax will happen, along with 10% international pax growth YOY.
I know December can be a slow month, especially for intl, but both of those seem within grasp.
I wonder how the intl #s will be when they finally start work on T5. I’d imagine they will lose at least 2 gates down at the end. M21, M20 and maybe even 19? That will certainly hurt in the summer.
By the way, has there been any official word when that will start? Pretty surprised they’re not working now with the winter schedules and so far decent weather to work with.
 
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:17 pm

It looks like F9 is launching ORD-BKG Wednesday and Saturday service beginning May 1, 2019.

https://flybranson.com/frontier-airline ... es-low-29/
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:28 am

Big plans for O'Hare, but no matter what they say politics will get in the way :stirthepot:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business ... story.html
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:05 am

Here's another on the 5 finalists' designs from Crains:
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/opinion ... D=19586556
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:47 am

All five of these designs look amazing. Maybe my standards are low because of what is there now but it is hard not to get excited looking at these!!!
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:08 pm

Don't recall seeing this anywhere, but looking at dates in June in looks like AA is dropping ORD-Chattanooga. Was this announced or is the schedule just not finalized that far out?
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:07 pm

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Don't recall seeing this anywhere, but looking at dates in June in looks like AA is dropping ORD-Chattanooga. Was this announced or is the schedule just not finalized that far out?


I believe this was in the OAG thread a few weeks ago. It's actually pretty amazing how UA has taken over the market relatively quickly that AA used to have to itself. UA is up to 3x and AA was down to 1x.
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:41 pm

drdisque wrote:
Jake1993P wrote:
Don't recall seeing this anywhere, but looking at dates in June in looks like AA is dropping ORD-Chattanooga. Was this announced or is the schedule just not finalized that far out?


I believe this was in the OAG thread a few weeks ago. It's actually pretty amazing how UA has taken over the market relatively quickly that AA used to have to itself. UA is up to 3x and AA was down to 1x.


Thanks. Didn't remember seeing that one posted, but if it was I'm sure I read it at some point. You're right...crazy how AA can't make 1x daily work given the amount of connections and their loyalty in the Chicago area.
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:09 pm



Another A340 bites the dust at O'Hare. Is this the last regularly scheduled A340 of any series?
Iberia begins A350 service on 22nd June, replacing the A340-600 service.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-20190117
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:13 pm

Doesn't SAS still run an A343 on ORD - CPH? I believe ORD - ARN is a 330
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:20 pm

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Doesn't SAS still run an A343 on ORD - CPH? I believe ORD - ARN is a 330


ORD-CPH has already switched over to an A330 (don't know the exact date).
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:02 pm

So... no word on the status of the T5 expansion. Supposed to be completed earlier than the T2 but we still don't know if there is an architect working on it and T2 is closer to hiring an architect.
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:20 pm

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So... no word on the status of the T5 expansion. Supposed to be completed earlier than the T2 but we still don't know if there is an architect working on it and T2 is closer to hiring an architect.


Where are our local in the know people?
I thought this was to begin this winter and I still don’t see any signs of impending construction.
I guess it would actually being prep for the East end of T5 but I still see them using those gates.
When is this going to start? It’s getting a bit ridiculous now.
This was supposed to be separate from the announced ORD 2020.
I understand there were different proposals when they were selecting the terminal layouts but that has been determined now for months. I’m still confused at the lack of progress here.
Could the govt shutdown have anything to do with this?
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:29 pm

drdisque wrote:
sircygnus wrote:
Doesn't SAS still run an A343 on ORD - CPH? I believe ORD - ARN is a 330


ORD-CPH has already switched over to an A330 (don't know the exact date).

Occasionally SAS will sub the 340. I saw one last week.

Off the top of my head, these carriers used the 340 to ORD
Lufthansa 340 and 346
Iberia 340 and 346
Air France
SAS
Turkish
Royal Jordanian
Kuwait
Swiss
Ethiad 346
Hainan 346

I think that’s it.
Another 4 holer gone.
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:23 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
drdisque wrote:
sircygnus wrote:
Doesn't SAS still run an A343 on ORD - CPH? I believe ORD - ARN is a 330


ORD-CPH has already switched over to an A330 (don't know the exact date).

Occasionally SAS will sub the 340. I saw one last week.

Off the top of my head, these carriers used the 340 to ORD
Lufthansa 340 and 346
Iberia 340 and 346
Air France
SAS
Turkish
Royal Jordanian
Kuwait
Swiss
Ethiad 346
Hainan 346

I think that’s it.
Another 4 holer gone.


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Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:38 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
drdisque wrote:
sircygnus wrote:
Doesn't SAS still run an A343 on ORD - CPH? I believe ORD - ARN is a 330


ORD-CPH has already switched over to an A330 (don't know the exact date).

Occasionally SAS will sub the 340. I saw one last week.

Off the top of my head, these carriers used the 340 to ORD
Lufthansa 340 and 346
Iberia 340 and 346
Air France
SAS
Turkish
Royal Jordanian
Kuwait
Swiss
Ethiad 346
Hainan 346

I think that’s it.
Another 4 holer gone.


Looks like January 15 and January 8 were both 343 on CPH-ORD-CPH. Looking forward, it appears to be a Tuesday thing...the rest of the week is on the 333.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:11 am

drdisque wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
drdisque wrote:

ORD-CPH has already switched over to an A330 (don't know the exact date).

Occasionally SAS will sub the 340. I saw one last week.

Off the top of my head, these carriers used the 340 to ORD
Lufthansa 340 and 346
Iberia 340 and 346
Air France
SAS
Turkish
Royal Jordanian
Kuwait
Swiss
Ethiad 346
Hainan 346

I think that’s it.
Another 4 holer gone.


Also VS


Thank you.
I completely forgot about them.
They flew both the 340 and 346
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:32 am

Planeboy17 wrote:
ORDfan wrote:

Impressive numbers again.
It looks likely that 80 million pax will happen, along with 10% international pax growth YOY.
I know December can be a slow month, especially for intl, but both of those seem within grasp.
I wonder how the intl #s will be when they finally start work on T5. I’d imagine they will lose at least 2 gates down at the end. M21, M20 and maybe even 19? That will certainly hurt in the summer.
By the way, has there been any official word when that will start? Pretty surprised they’re not working now with the winter schedules and so far decent weather to work with.


Yeap agreed... it's been really impressive. The Trib ran an article about record-breaking tourism (again) this year: conventioneers/business travelers, and foreign visitors all setting records, as we know and see in the ORD numbers. Even more impressive, is that the rate of y-o-y growth has accelerated in recent years, implying some serious momentum. In case some were wondering, here's a little more info about where some the foreign pax are coming from.

"Where are the international travelers coming from? Airline Passenger Information System data from the first 11 months of last year show a 16.2 percent increase in visits from Brazilian passport holders. The numbers were up 14.1 percent for passport holders from the U.K., 10.9 percent from Italy, 9.2 percent from South Korea, 7.4 percent from Mexico, 2.5 percent from Canada and 2.1 percent from China."

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyl ... story.html
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:42 pm

4R being used for arrivals this morning and 4L for departures - don't see that everyday! Conditions must be pretty bad.
https://www.flightradar24.com/41.98,-87.91/13
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:51 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
drdisque wrote:
sircygnus wrote:
Doesn't SAS still run an A343 on ORD - CPH? I believe ORD - ARN is a 330


ORD-CPH has already switched over to an A330 (don't know the exact date).

Occasionally SAS will sub the 340. I saw one last week.

Off the top of my head, these carriers used the 340 to ORD
Lufthansa 340 and 346
Iberia 340 and 346
Air France
SAS
Turkish
Royal Jordanian
Kuwait
Swiss
Ethiad 346
Hainan 346

I think that’s it.
Another 4 holer gone.


That is making sad, thinking about a bygone era that doesn't seem that long ago... I remember those days like they were yesterday, when the A340's and pax 747's were as ubiquitous at ORD as AA's MD80s. I flew LH A346 to MUC more times than I can remember. I think I kind of took all those diversity of frames for granted back then.

Just the other day I noticed KE, JL, and AI 773s parked at T5 and I literally remember when I was flying to ICN regularly back in the mid/late 2000s that they were parked at the same gates and were 744s back then. I can't believe it's been so long :(
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:54 pm

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So... no word on the status of the T5 expansion. Supposed to be completed earlier than the T2 but we still don't know if there is an architect working on it and T2 is closer to hiring an architect.


It really is incredible how this T5 expansion keeps getting kicked down the road.

Early last year, I thought I saw some survey work being done taxi'ing one day past M19/20/21. But looks like not much has been there. On another note, I'm glad the hotel and parking garage for the T5 parking lot are on hold, indefinitely for now. Was not a big fan of that part of the expansion.
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:54 pm

Help me get this straight.

Where T2 is today will be the new Global Terminal, where the oneworld internationals will park.

There will be a southern addition to C that will also be the Global Terminal, that’s where the Star internationals will park.

UAX will occupy the island west of the new C addition. Right?
A319 A320 A321 A332 B712 B722 B737 B738 B739 B744 B752 B763 B764 B772 B788 MD80 S340 E140 E145 E170 E175 CRJ2 CRJ7 CRJ9
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:07 pm

MLIAA wrote:
Help me get this straight.

Where T2 is today will be the new Global Terminal, where the oneworld internationals will park.

There will be a southern addition to C that will also be the Global Terminal, that’s where the Star internationals will park.

UAX will occupy the island west of the new C addition. Right?


New T2 will be shared with Star and OneWorld and both new concourses to the west will be where UA T2 ops relocate.
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:08 pm

Gotcha. Thanks!
A319 A320 A321 A332 B712 B722 B737 B738 B739 B744 B752 B763 B764 B772 B788 MD80 S340 E140 E145 E170 E175 CRJ2 CRJ7 CRJ9
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:43 am

sohanb82 wrote:
New T2 will be shared with Star and OneWorld and both new concourses to the west will be where UA T2 ops relocate.


Half right. Yes, the new T2, to be known as the Global Terminal, is to accommodate many of Star and OneWorld's carriers. However, the first of the two new concourses west ("Satellite 1"), is also part of the Global Terminal.

Only Satellite 2, the furthest one west in this initial plan, (there'll be terminals even further west in the future) is where UA T-2 operations will relocate.
 
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Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:08 am

MLIAA wrote:
Where T2 is today will be the new Global Terminal, where the oneworld internationals will park.

There will be a southern addition to C that will also be the Global Terminal, that’s where the Star internationals will park.

UAX will occupy the island west of the new C addition. Right?


I think you're closer to the plan than SohanB82, but I don't believe the two parts of the Global Terminal will be so rigidly one terminal for OneWord and one terminal for Star operations. Gates, I believe, will be more fluid in the new system.
 
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Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:26 pm

Willie Wilson wants to re-open Meigs: https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/m ... -election/
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Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:31 pm

https://voteord21.flychicago.com/home/P ... fault.aspx

So the 5 designs have been unveiled... any thoughts on them? Personally I think design 3 or 1 are the nicest, and calatrava’s (5) being the one I would want the least.
 
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Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:40 pm

sircygnus wrote:
Doesn't SAS still run an A343 on ORD - CPH? I believe ORD - ARN is a 330

I saw a af 340 a few days ago my friend was on it. So sad to see such a great plane leave
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:28 pm

planespotter20 wrote:
https://voteord21.flychicago.com/home/Pages/default.aspx

So the 5 designs have been unveiled... any thoughts on them? Personally I think design 3 or 1 are the nicest, and calatrava’s (5) being the one I would want the least.

There is a separate thread for this.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:00 am

ORDfan101 wrote:
sircygnus wrote:
Doesn't SAS still run an A343 on ORD - CPH? I believe ORD - ARN is a 330

I saw a af 340 a few days ago my friend was on it. So sad to see such a great plane leave

So far they sending A343 on ARN-ORD-ARN as SK945 since last friday.
Ocassionally (for eg. in two days) SK943 will operate on A343.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:53 am

Planeboy17 wrote:
There is a separate thread for this.


That doesn't preclude the topic from being discussed in the Chicago Aviation thread amongst the posters who regularly contribute here.

KICT wrote:
Willie Wilson wants to re-open Meigs: https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/m ... -election/
Should never have been closed to begin with!


LOL. I had to google Willie Wilson. While I do agree, honestly, with the amount of earth the park district has moved on that island in the past decade, I have a hard time believing they will plop a runway back on top of the lagoon.

planespotter20 wrote:
https://voteord21.flychicago.com/home/P ... fault.aspx

So the 5 designs have been unveiled... any thoughts on them? Personally I think design 3 or 1 are the nicest, and calatrava’s (5) being the one I would want the least.


I ranked Studio ORD as my #1 in the other thread, but honestly, on second and third viewings today, I really love the Calatrava design too and it is my favorite.

If the city could ever get on board with replacing the Hilton and the main garage (personally very doubtful on that), I think the "Vision" plan with the office buildings and garden is truly world-class levels of epic. As in look-at-me, global alpha superpower terminal.

While in no way would I be disappointed if Studio ORD's design were selected, to a certain extent, Calatrava's design seems like an ideal combination of Chicago Burham-inspired ethos of "make no small plans," combined with the appropriately referenced city motto: "Urbs in Horto." This city is gleaming with works from generations of 'starchitects," and I think ORD deserves the same treatment.

I will say this, win or lose, Calatrava has definitely embraced Chicago's architectural credentials and I can see that inspiration in his design.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:56 am

ORDfan wrote:
LOL. I had to google Willie Wilson. While I do agree, honestly, with the amount of earth the park district has moved on that island in the past decade, I have a hard time believing they will plop a runway back on top of the lagoon.

Parks don't generate tax revenue. Airports do.
People are saying. Believe me.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:09 am

KICT wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
LOL. I had to google Willie Wilson. While I do agree, honestly, with the amount of earth the park district has moved on that island in the past decade, I have a hard time believing they will plop a runway back on top of the lagoon.

Parks don't generate tax revenue. Airports do.


Exactly! And especially stupid parks like this one. It’s not really near anything other than McCormick Place. People visiting Chicago or living downtown go to Grant Park when they want to visit the park, not the flat featureless Park where Meigs is. I always thought it was a campground?
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