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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:20 am

I wonder what's the cheaper way of getting from Vancouver to the Middle East or India: taking the bus from Vancouver to Seattle and connecting to the nonstop EK SEA-DXB flight, or connecting out of YVR via Europe or China.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:21 pm

SEA LFs, December '18 domestic and September '18 international:

Domestic:
AS: 86.63
AA: 86.04
DL: 87.42
F9: 91.25
HA: 96.15 I've said this before and I'll say this again, I think that HA could easily add another flight out of SEA, either a second daily to HNL or something to LIH or KOA on an A321neo year-round and do well, their LFs have been great and from my experience, their yields aren't half-bad for Hawaii either.
B6: 83.46
WN: 85.90
NK: 88.28
SY: 77.10
UA: 89.12

Int'l:
AS: 83.67
DL: 82.49
EI: 88.85
AM: 70.98
AC: 92.80
NH: 84.46
OZ: 74.16
BA: 94.19
AF: 88.02
Y4: 85.32
DE: 97.18
EK: 94.87
EW: 46.68
BR: 95.25
HU: 73.15
FI: 85.54
KE: 79.19
LH: 93.81
DY: 95.13
MT: 88.72
VS: 90.53
MF: 59.31
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:46 pm

Just announced a few days ago. San Juan Airlines will provide scheduled service between PAE and Friday Harbor, WA. Passengers can make connections to other San Juan islands and even BLI through Friday Harbor:

Unfortunately, they are not operating directly from the PAE terminal, since there is no room. But they will operate just across the parking lot.

Service Starts May 1st, 2019
Passengers boarding in Bellingham or Friday Harbor are subject to a Passenger Facility Charge of $4.50 per person.

Leave North End / San Juans
MONDAY – FRIDAY
8:45 am (departs Friday Harbor)
6:00 pm (departs Friday Harbor)
Leaving Everett
MONDAY – FRIDAY
11:45 am
7:20 pm
Passengers departing from Bellingham, Anacortes, Orcas, or Lopez will make a connection in Friday Harbor. Call reservations for departure times from these locations.
Pickup and drop off in Everett is at Castle and Cooke Aviation. Castle and Cooke is just across the parking lot from the new Airport Terminal at Paine Field. Parking is available but limited. The facility address is 9724 32nd Place West Everett, WA 98204.

http://sanjuanairlines.com/scheduled/

Small regional news, but good news for those that live in San Juan County and wish to try connecting through PAE rather than SEA.

I know I posted this on its own post, but I want to get the word out.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:42 am

717atOGG wrote:
SEA LFs, December '18 domestic and September '18 international:

Domestic:
AS: 86.63
AA: 86.04
DL: 87.42
F9: 91.25
HA: 96.15 I've said this before and I'll say this again, I think that HA could easily add another flight out of SEA, either a second daily to HNL or something to LIH or KOA on an A321neo year-round and do well, their LFs have been great and from my experience, their yields aren't half-bad for Hawaii either.
B6: 83.46
WN: 85.90
NK: 88.28
SY: 77.10
UA: 89.12

I totally agree. In fact, it's amazing that HA gets these high load-factors considering two other players with multiple dailies between SEA and HI. HA had a 2nd nonstop SEA-HNL A330 flight during the X-mas season a couple of times. I think HA could handle a 2nd HNL or OGG...or like you said, a LIH or KOA flight easily with a NEO.

Int'l:
AS: 83.67
DL: 82.49
EI: 88.85
AM: 70.98
AC: 92.80
NH: 84.46
OZ: 74.16
BA: 94.19
AF: 88.02
Y4: 85.32
DE: 97.18
EK: 94.87
EW: 46.68
BR: 95.25
HU: 73.15
FI: 85.54
KE: 79.19
LH: 93.81
DY: 95.13
MT: 88.72
VS: 90.53
MF: 59.31
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:18 am

717atOGG wrote:
SEA LFs, December '18 domestic and September '18 international:

Domestic:
AS: 86.63
AA: 86.04
DL: 87.42
F9: 91.25
HA: 96.15 I've said this before and I'll say this again, I think that HA could easily add another flight out of SEA, either a second daily to HNL or something to LIH or KOA on an A321neo year-round and do well, their LFs have been great and from my experience, their yields aren't half-bad for Hawaii either.
B6: 83.46
WN: 85.90
NK: 88.28
SY: 77.10
UA: 89.12

Int'l:
AS: 83.67
DL: 82.49
EI: 88.85
AM: 70.98
AC: 92.80
NH: 84.46
OZ: 74.16
BA: 94.19
AF: 88.02
Y4: 85.32
DE: 97.18
EK: 94.87
EW: 46.68
BR: 95.25
HU: 73.15
FI: 85.54
KE: 79.19
LH: 93.81
DY: 95.13
MT: 88.72
VS: 90.53
MF: 59.31

Agree that HA could add more lift ex SEA - your idea for a direct to LIH or KOA sounds solid - wouldn't be surprised if they did that to compete with AS on those routes.
Impressive international numbers for the likes of BA, BR, EK, DE, DY - all near or above 95%
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:06 pm

JetSuiteX added BFI-OAK, 3x/day on ERJ-135, starting July 1. Should be interesting to see how this route does; fares seem competitive, but they might have to do some advertising on the Seattle end, since I doubt many people know that BFI has passenger service. Additionally, JetSuiteX typically uses private jet terminals, so I wonder if they'll use BFI's terminal, or some other building there.

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/J ... 786456.php
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Mon May 06, 2019 6:26 pm

LAX - PSC - LAX is only a CRJ200. Not the promised E175. Maybe E175 service during the Summer as travel demand increases.
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:42 pm

Any new news since two months ago?
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:36 pm

dc10lover wrote:
Any new news since two months ago?

The New Alaska Airlines lounge in the North Satellite officially opens today - looks nice, will check it out when I am there Saturday:

https://ifly.alaskaair.com/pub/cc?_ri_= ... e52UigpUpu.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:03 pm

Hi all,

I'm aware that this thread hasn't been too active lately, but I thought it might be a good idea to at least try to jump-start it again, by sharing some of the happenings in WA lately related to aviation.

-Less than a month left until the SQ inaugural! They start on 9/3, as 3x weekly for the month of September (T/Th/Sat), then starting in October another frequency is added on Sundays.
-AS is starting PAE-PSP on November 5. Any news on how PAE is doing? I know LFs don't tell the whole story, but AS had 72.71 and 76.72% in March and April respectively, and (disregarding March since they started on the 31st of the month), UA got 61.31% in April.
-AS ended BLI-HI service, scaling down to just SEA. Despite the ANC G4 add, the airport hasn't been doing well with keeping service IMO. They did apply for a grant for eastward service though (think DEN), so let's see how that goes.
-Delta started SEA-PVG A330neo service already, and they'll switch ICN and NRT to A339 too in the fall. SEA-KIX looks to be back next year as well, and SEA-CDG is switching to an A333 next spring. On the domestic side, they're expanding A220 routes, with SJC, SFO, SMF, SLC, DEN, MCI, MKE, and ATL getting them off the top of my memory.
-AF is switching to a 777-200ER for the fall, from its A330-200 service this summer.
-EI is going daily on SEA-DUB starting next May.

This is by no means a comprehensive list, so feel free to add info, or discuss.
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:07 am

I’m hoping LH will start SEA-MUC in an upcoming announcement.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:27 am

717atOGG wrote:
Hi all,

I'm aware that this thread hasn't been too active lately, but I thought it might be a good idea to at least try to jump-start it again, by sharing some of the happenings in WA lately related to aviation.

-Less than a month left until the SQ inaugural! They start on 9/3, as 3x weekly for the month of September (T/Th/Sat), then starting in October another frequency is added on Sundays.
-AS is starting PAE-PSP on November 5. Any news on how PAE is doing? I know LFs don't tell the whole story, but AS had 72.71 and 76.72% in March and April respectively, and (disregarding March since they started on the 31st of the month), UA got 61.31% in April.
-AS ended BLI-HI service, scaling down to just SEA. Despite the ANC G4 add, the airport hasn't been doing well with keeping service IMO. They did apply for a grant for eastward service though (think DEN), so let's see how that goes.
-Delta started SEA-PVG A330neo service already, and they'll switch ICN and NRT to A339 too in the fall. SEA-KIX looks to be back next year as well, and SEA-CDG is switching to an A333 next spring. On the domestic side, they're expanding A220 routes, with SJC, SFO, SMF, SLC, DEN, MCI, MKE, and ATL getting them off the top of my memory.
-AF is switching to a 777-200ER for the fall, from its A330-200 service this summer.
-EI is going daily on SEA-DUB starting next May.

This is by no means a comprehensive list, so feel free to add info, or discuss.


would you happen to know when A220 service will be starting to SMF?
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:12 am

April 1. First two morning SMF-SEA flights are CS1.


smflyer wrote:
717atOGG wrote:
Hi all,

I'm aware that this thread hasn't been too active lately, but I thought it might be a good idea to at least try to jump-start it again, by sharing some of the happenings in WA lately related to aviation.

-Less than a month left until the SQ inaugural! They start on 9/3, as 3x weekly for the month of September (T/Th/Sat), then starting in October another frequency is added on Sundays.
-AS is starting PAE-PSP on November 5. Any news on how PAE is doing? I know LFs don't tell the whole story, but AS had 72.71 and 76.72% in March and April respectively, and (disregarding March since they started on the 31st of the month), UA got 61.31% in April.
-AS ended BLI-HI service, scaling down to just SEA. Despite the ANC G4 add, the airport hasn't been doing well with keeping service IMO. They did apply for a grant for eastward service though (think DEN), so let's see how that goes.
-Delta started SEA-PVG A330neo service already, and they'll switch ICN and NRT to A339 too in the fall. SEA-KIX looks to be back next year as well, and SEA-CDG is switching to an A333 next spring. On the domestic side, they're expanding A220 routes, with SJC, SFO, SMF, SLC, DEN, MCI, MKE, and ATL getting them off the top of my memory.
-AF is switching to a 777-200ER for the fall, from its A330-200 service this summer.
-EI is going daily on SEA-DUB starting next May.

This is by no means a comprehensive list, so feel free to add info, or discuss.


would you happen to know when A220 service will be starting to SMF?
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:35 pm

Update: LH is launching MUC-SEA from June 1st, 2020. 6x weekly on a A359.
B6 will be pulling out of ANC, meaning PDX/SEA-ANC will not return after their seasonal end this fall.
Seattle.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 pm

717atOGG wrote:
Hi all,

I'm aware that this thread hasn't been too active lately, but I thought it might be a good idea to at least try to jump-start it again, by sharing some of the happenings in WA lately related to aviation.

-Less than a month left until the SQ inaugural! They start on 9/3, as 3x weekly for the month of September (T/Th/Sat), then starting in October another frequency is added on Sundays.
-AS is starting PAE-PSP on November 5. Any news on how PAE is doing? I know LFs don't tell the whole story, but AS had 72.71 and 76.72% in March and April respectively, and (disregarding March since they started on the 31st of the month), UA got 61.31% in April.
-AS ended BLI-HI service, scaling down to just SEA. Despite the ANC G4 add, the airport hasn't been doing well with keeping service IMO. They did apply for a grant for eastward service though (think DEN), so let's see how that goes.
-Delta started SEA-PVG A330neo service already, and they'll switch ICN and NRT to A339 too in the fall. SEA-KIX looks to be back next year as well, and SEA-CDG is switching to an A333 next spring. On the domestic side, they're expanding A220 routes, with SJC, SFO, SMF, SLC, DEN, MCI, MKE, and ATL getting them off the top of my memory.
-AF is switching to a 777-200ER for the fall, from its A330-200 service this summer.
-EI is going daily on SEA-DUB starting next May.

This is by no means a comprehensive list, so feel free to add info, or discuss.


I heard a rumor from someone (who didn't seem that knowledgeable to me) that Alaska wants to use the 737 from PAE to Hawaii. I asked which island, assuming it would either be Maui or Oahu. She didn't know, but thought it was reallocating (if that is even the right word) the Hawaii flight(s) from Bellingham. This person has some potential behind the scenes knowledge, but again I wasn't real confident in how much she knew.

I went to Wikipedia to check on Bellingham. From this airliners.net, I have learned that Alaska service from Bellingham is down. In the past they have operated 737's to at least Las Vegas, Maui, Kona and I believe Oahu. They have long operated to Seattle with smaller Horizon planes. They have also had service to Portland. Now, according to Wikipedia, Alaska only has Seattle to Bellingham.

Previously Bellingham also had Frontier to Denver. That might have only been for a summer.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:21 pm

tespai wrote:
Update: LH is launching MUC-SEA from June 1st, 2020. 6x weekly on a A359.
B6 will be pulling out of ANC, meaning PDX/SEA-ANC will not return after their seasonal end this fall.


Thanks for the update. Seems like another big international add for Seattle to get an LH A359 to MUC. Are we assuming LH keeps daily year round service from SEA to FRA? Is the MUC service year round or seasonal?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:04 am

SeaDoo wrote:
717atOGG wrote:
Hi all,

I'm aware that this thread hasn't been too active lately, but I thought it might be a good idea to at least try to jump-start it again, by sharing some of the happenings in WA lately related to aviation.

-Less than a month left until the SQ inaugural! They start on 9/3, as 3x weekly for the month of September (T/Th/Sat), then starting in October another frequency is added on Sundays.
-AS is starting PAE-PSP on November 5. Any news on how PAE is doing? I know LFs don't tell the whole story, but AS had 72.71 and 76.72% in March and April respectively, and (disregarding March since they started on the 31st of the month), UA got 61.31% in April.
-AS ended BLI-HI service, scaling down to just SEA. Despite the ANC G4 add, the airport hasn't been doing well with keeping service IMO. They did apply for a grant for eastward service though (think DEN), so let's see how that goes.
-Delta started SEA-PVG A330neo service already, and they'll switch ICN and NRT to A339 too in the fall. SEA-KIX looks to be back next year as well, and SEA-CDG is switching to an A333 next spring. On the domestic side, they're expanding A220 routes, with SJC, SFO, SMF, SLC, DEN, MCI, MKE, and ATL getting them off the top of my memory.
-AF is switching to a 777-200ER for the fall, from its A330-200 service this summer.
-EI is going daily on SEA-DUB starting next May.

This is by no means a comprehensive list, so feel free to add info, or discuss.


I heard a rumor from someone (who didn't seem that knowledgeable to me) that Alaska wants to use the 737 from PAE to Hawaii. I asked which island, assuming it would either be Maui or Oahu. She didn't know, but thought it was reallocating (if that is even the right word) the Hawaii flight(s) from Bellingham. This person has some potential behind the scenes knowledge, but again I wasn't real confident in how much she knew.

I went to Wikipedia to check on Bellingham. From this airliners.net, I have learned that Alaska service from Bellingham is down. In the past they have operated 737's to at least Las Vegas, Maui, Kona and I believe Oahu. They have long operated to Seattle with smaller Horizon planes. They have also had service to Portland. Now, according to Wikipedia, Alaska only has Seattle to Bellingham.

Previously Bellingham also had Frontier to Denver. That might have only been for a summer.


AS will need to remove an existing flight to somewhere before a new HI flight can start. Remember that PAE is limited to 24 flights.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:39 am

wedgetail737 wrote:
SeaDoo wrote:
717atOGG wrote:
Hi all,

I'm aware that this thread hasn't been too active lately, but I thought it might be a good idea to at least try to jump-start it again, by sharing some of the happenings in WA lately related to aviation.

-Less than a month left until the SQ inaugural! They start on 9/3, as 3x weekly for the month of September (T/Th/Sat), then starting in October another frequency is added on Sundays.
-AS is starting PAE-PSP on November 5. Any news on how PAE is doing? I know LFs don't tell the whole story, but AS had 72.71 and 76.72% in March and April respectively, and (disregarding March since they started on the 31st of the month), UA got 61.31% in April.
-AS ended BLI-HI service, scaling down to just SEA. Despite the ANC G4 add, the airport hasn't been doing well with keeping service IMO. They did apply for a grant for eastward service though (think DEN), so let's see how that goes.
-Delta started SEA-PVG A330neo service already, and they'll switch ICN and NRT to A339 too in the fall. SEA-KIX looks to be back next year as well, and SEA-CDG is switching to an A333 next spring. On the domestic side, they're expanding A220 routes, with SJC, SFO, SMF, SLC, DEN, MCI, MKE, and ATL getting them off the top of my memory.
-AF is switching to a 777-200ER for the fall, from its A330-200 service this summer.
-EI is going daily on SEA-DUB starting next May.

This is by no means a comprehensive list, so feel free to add info, or discuss.


I heard a rumor from someone (who didn't seem that knowledgeable to me) that Alaska wants to use the 737 from PAE to Hawaii. I asked which island, assuming it would either be Maui or Oahu. She didn't know, but thought it was reallocating (if that is even the right word) the Hawaii flight(s) from Bellingham. This person has some potential behind the scenes knowledge, but again I wasn't real confident in how much she knew.

I went to Wikipedia to check on Bellingham. From this airliners.net, I have learned that Alaska service from Bellingham is down. In the past they have operated 737's to at least Las Vegas, Maui, Kona and I believe Oahu. They have long operated to Seattle with smaller Horizon planes. They have also had service to Portland. Now, according to Wikipedia, Alaska only has Seattle to Bellingham.

Previously Bellingham also had Frontier to Denver. That might have only been for a summer.


AS will need to remove an existing flight to somewhere before a new HI flight can start. Remember that PAE is limited to 24 flights.


That is true. If they were interested in replacing a flight so they could add Hawaii, I wonder which one would be on the chopping block. I wonder how the flights to Portland are doing. Do people use it as a non-stop to Portland as their destination, or are they connecting to somewhere else?

Does anyone know how much the flights cater to incoming travelers vs travelers starting a trip from Western Washington?
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:05 pm

The Hawaii service that was removed from BLI is being transferred to Seattle. It will be three daily to HNL and OGG if I remember correctly. There have been no rumblings about Hawai’i or 737 service from PAE.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:58 pm

SeaDoo wrote:
tespai wrote:
Update: LH is launching MUC-SEA from June 1st, 2020. 6x weekly on a A359.
B6 will be pulling out of ANC, meaning PDX/SEA-ANC will not return after their seasonal end this fall.


Thanks for the update. Seems like another big international add for Seattle to get an LH A359 to MUC. Are we assuming LH keeps daily year round service from SEA to FRA? Is the MUC service year round or seasonal?

Thanks in advance.

This is great to hear, another A359 coming to SEA. This will make #5 - DL, OZ, CX, SQ and now LH. Love the engine sound when they're departing :cloudnine:
SEA/FRA on LH is staying for sure - not certain whether MUC will be seasonal or year-round. Will try to find out when I am at the airport on Friday. Will post here if I can confirm.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:45 pm

Does DL have any interest in serving BLI from SLC? Maybe when the new terminal is built?
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:19 am

ER757 wrote:
SeaDoo wrote:
tespai wrote:
Update: LH is launching MUC-SEA from June 1st, 2020. 6x weekly on a A359.
B6 will be pulling out of ANC, meaning PDX/SEA-ANC will not return after their seasonal end this fall.


Thanks for the update. Seems like another big international add for Seattle to get an LH A359 to MUC. Are we assuming LH keeps daily year round service from SEA to FRA? Is the MUC service year round or seasonal?

Thanks in advance.

This is great to hear, another A359 coming to SEA. This will make #5 - DL, OZ, CX, SQ and now LH. Love the engine sound when they're departing :cloudnine:
SEA/FRA on LH is staying for sure - not certain whether MUC will be seasonal or year-round. Will try to find out when I am at the airport on Friday. Will post here if I can confirm.


I believe the SEA-NRT (or HND) will change to the A330-NEO eventually.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:41 am

Prost wrote:
Does DL have any interest in serving BLI from SLC? Maybe when the new terminal is built?


I swear that they tried this for a summer with a CRJ five or years ago and didn't come back, but I can't locate any information. Maybe one of our DL experts can weigh in on that.

Great to see LH is adding MUC-SEA. Love seeing A350s coming into SEA.
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:37 am

gunsontheroof wrote:
Prost wrote:
Does DL have any interest in serving BLI from SLC? Maybe when the new terminal is built?


I swear that they tried this for a summer with a CRJ five or years ago and didn't come back, but I can't locate any information. Maybe one of our DL experts can weigh in on that.

Great to see LH is adding MUC-SEA. Love seeing A350s coming into SEA.




You are correct about DL serving BLI from SLC. I can't remember how long ago, but I think it was maybe closer to 10 or more years ago. I don't know if it was summer only.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:40 am

gunsontheroof wrote:
Prost wrote:
Does DL have any interest in serving BLI from SLC? Maybe when the new terminal is built?


I swear that they tried this for a summer with a CRJ five or years ago and didn't come back, but I can't locate any information. Maybe one of our DL experts can weigh in on that.

Great to see LH is adding MUC-SEA. Love seeing A350s coming into SEA.




You are correct about DL serving BLI from SLC. I can't remember how long ago, but I think it was maybe closer to 10 or more years ago. I don't know if it was summer only.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:26 pm

A quick question: My 80-year old Dad is flying into Sea-Tac on Sunday, and a friend and I are going to pick him up. If we wait in the cell-phone lot, is it realistic for me to walk from the lot to arrivals? My dad won't have a phone, so I'd like to meet him at baggage, then call my friend in the lot. Is this a reasonable plan, or should we just plan on parking in the structure? I live in Bellingham, and use BLI myself, it's probably been 10 years since I've been to SEA. Thanks in Advance!
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:33 pm

I don't think you can easily make that walk. You can probably have your friend drop you off then get back to the cell lot and wait for your call.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:01 pm

NiMar wrote:
I don't think you can easily make that walk. You can probably have your friend drop you off then get back to the cell lot and wait for your call.

Thanks. I looked at the Google satellite pics, and it seemed on the border of reasonable. It's do-able, but..... Thanks again.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:13 pm

I would not walk from the cell lot to the airport. The only "Safe" way to do that would be to walk over to international and go through the light rail station. I wold just have your other person drop you off and circle around tot he cell lot....Much safer and easier.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:54 pm

Yeastbeast wrote:
A quick question: My 80-year old Dad is flying into Sea-Tac on Sunday, and a friend and I are going to pick him up. If we wait in the cell-phone lot, is it realistic for me to walk from the lot to arrivals? My dad won't have a phone, so I'd like to meet him at baggage, then call my friend in the lot. Is this a reasonable plan, or should we just plan on parking in the structure? I live in Bellingham, and use BLI myself, it's probably been 10 years since I've been to SEA. Thanks in Advance!


A couple of hints:

If it’s during a period of high arrivals and low departures it might be easier to pick up on the departure level (upper). If arrivals are high it will be noticeable by all the cars illegally parked on the side of the road as you enter the airport from the north.

If it’s really crowded getting out of the cell lot takes a while, might want to stay in the pattern.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:07 am

7BOEING7 wrote:
Yeastbeast wrote:
A quick question: My 80-year old Dad is flying into Sea-Tac on Sunday, and a friend and I are going to pick him up. If we wait in the cell-phone lot, is it realistic for me to walk from the lot to arrivals? My dad won't have a phone, so I'd like to meet him at baggage, then call my friend in the lot. Is this a reasonable plan, or should we just plan on parking in the structure? I live in Bellingham, and use BLI myself, it's probably been 10 years since I've been to SEA. Thanks in Advance!


A couple of hints:

If it’s during a period of high arrivals and low departures it might be easier to pick up on the departure level (upper). If arrivals are high it will be noticeable by all the cars illegally parked on the side of the road as you enter the airport from the north.

If it’s really crowded getting out of the cell lot takes a while, might want to stay in the pattern.
Dash8Driver16 wrote:
I would not walk from the cell lot to the airport. The only "Safe" way to do that would be to walk over to international and go through the light rail station. I wold just have your other person drop you off and circle around tot he cell lot....Much safer and easier.


Thanks much guys. I'll keep an eye on FR24 as we head down, and have him drop me off, and head back to the cell lot.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:54 am

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Prost wrote:
Does DL have any interest in serving BLI from SLC? Maybe when the new terminal is built?


I swear that they tried this for a summer with a CRJ five or years ago and didn't come back, but I can't locate any information. Maybe one of our DL experts can weigh in on that.

Great to see LH is adding MUC-SEA. Love seeing A350s coming into SEA.




You are correct about DL serving BLI from SLC. I can't remember how long ago, but I think it was maybe closer to 10 or more years ago. I don't know if it was summer only.


I'm fairly confident that it was summer only because I remember it being gone in a flash, but I'm not 100% on that. I would have thought there'd be something in the Bellingham Herald archives about it, but I can't find anything. You're probably right that it was longer ago than I'm recollecting.
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:01 pm

SeaTac stacks the deck against using true public transit. Private cars and Uber are privileged. It is almost 1/4 mile (and esoteric non-intuitive stairways) from baggage to the light rail. Vans which carry numerable passengers are exiled to the parking garage. I have never been brave enough to even consider a bus. Walking, even from the closest motels, is putting your life at risk. I understand assistance is available, but the mostly able aged or those only mildly crippled are reduced to dependency. Take the train, haven't checked for a while, but definitely not recommended at least a few years ago.
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:26 pm

Is MF still slated to end service to SEA this November?

Also, I wonder if SEA will get another ME carrier next year...like Qatar or Etihad...or maybe TK (is TK considered a ME carrier?).
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:03 am

Thanks again everyone. His flight was delayed about 1/2 hour out of ORD, so I got dropped at arrivals and had my friend park in the cell lot. Once we grabbed his bag, we were in car and rolling in less than 5 minutes . Appreciate the tips!
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:33 am

Based on preliminary schedules, Aer Lingus are going daily to SEA (A332) in Summer 2020, up from current 5 per week.

Miami also gets back the 3rd weekly flight which was dropped this summer to allow SEA a fifth weekly frequency.

MCO increases to 6 per week, LAX up gauges to daily A333, MSP up gauges to A332.
 
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:27 pm

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Based on preliminary schedules, Aer Lingus are going daily to SEA (A332) in Summer 2020, up from current 5 per week.


I really want to take this flight one day!
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:55 pm

shamrock604 wrote:
Based on preliminary schedules, Aer Lingus are going daily to SEA (A332) in Summer 2020, up from current 5 per week.

Miami also gets back the 3rd weekly flight which was dropped this summer to allow SEA a fifth weekly frequency.

MCO increases to 6 per week, LAX up gauges to daily A333, MSP up gauges to A332.

I am not surprised to hear this in the least. All the figures I've seen indicate the flights are doing very well. A friend recently flew them SEA/DUB in C and raved about their product.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:37 pm

SeaDoo wrote:
I heard a rumor from someone (who didn't seem that knowledgeable to me) that Alaska wants to use the 737 from PAE to Hawaii. I asked which island, assuming it would either be Maui or Oahu. She didn't know, but thought it was reallocating (if that is even the right word) the Hawaii flight(s) from Bellingham. This person has some potential behind the scenes knowledge, but again I wasn't real confident in how much she knew.


A lot of potential passengers want to see this. I'd bet a lot of people working for Alaska would want to see it as well, as a measure of success of PAE operations. I'm hesitant to believe any concrete plans are being made so early on in PAE's operations, but the desirability of it could easily lead to rumors.

I tend to expect Alaska wants a year or two of consistently good load factors and pricing before trying to upgauge anything, and I default to the assumption they will start with upgauging an existing route before they try Hawaii service from PAE.

So maybe in a few years, but not yet.
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:30 am

Alaska is starting Everett-Spokane on November 4, at a cost of reducing frequencies to Los Angeles which will go down to 2x daily.
https://www.heraldnet.com/business/alas ... -on-nov-4/

Air Canada is also launching Montreal-Seattle on their brand new A220-300s on May 4:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/air-cana ... 00254.html

Speaking of Paine Field, they've finally redone the ground transportation lot, it's currently coned off still, but should be formally opened soon. Looks like they might be waiting to install signage still.
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:42 pm

Some July numbers from a Port of Seattle email I received:


Key airport activity highlights:


July 2019

Over 5.2 million passengers travelled through Sea-Tac in July 2019, an increase of 2.2% versus 2018
Domestic passenger traffic up 2.0%
International traffic up 3.5%


Aircraft operations (takeoffs + landings) increased 0.8% vs. July 2018
About 1,380 daily operations


Air cargo (freight + mail) increased 6.7% vs. July 2018
Domestic air cargo increased 3.2%
International increased 11.3%
YTD 2019

Almost 29.6 million air passengers travelled through Sea-Tac in the first seven months of 2019
3.2% increase over 2018
39.8% increase over 2014 (5 years ago)
Domestic passenger growth up 3.2% from 2018
International passenger traffic increased 3.1%


Air cargo (freight + mail) increased 2.1% vs. 2018
Domestic air cargo up 2.6% from 2018
International increased 1.2%
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:23 pm

The inaugural Singapore-Seattle flight is currently about 2.5 hours out! I'm going out to catch it landing, I'll post photos here later.

Anyone know what festivities will be going on in SEA today? Apparently SQ made a Seattle-themed track celebrating the flight, but I haven't been able to find any other information.

https://onemileatatime.com/singapore-ai ... mix-track/
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:34 pm

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The inaugural Singapore-Seattle flight is currently about 2.5 hours out! I'm going out to catch it landing, I'll post photos here later.

Anyone know what festivities will be going on in SEA today? Apparently SQ made a Seattle-themed track celebrating the flight, but I haven't been able to find any other information.

https://onemileatatime.com/singapore-ai ... mix-track/

For sure doing the water cannon salute on arrival and I know there will be a bunch of volunteers at the arrival gate to assist arriving passengers. Not sure if there is any formal ceremony or not. By the time I responded to the email they already have enough people signed up so guess I'll just go to one of my favorite spotting locations and try to get some pics of her on final......
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:39 pm

ER757 wrote:
717atOGG wrote:
The inaugural Singapore-Seattle flight is currently about 2.5 hours out! I'm going out to catch it landing, I'll post photos here later.

Anyone know what festivities will be going on in SEA today? Apparently SQ made a Seattle-themed track celebrating the flight, but I haven't been able to find any other information.

https://onemileatatime.com/singapore-ai ... mix-track/

For sure doing the water cannon salute on arrival and I know there will be a bunch of volunteers at the arrival gate to assist arriving passengers. Not sure if there is any formal ceremony or not. By the time I responded to the email they already have enough people signed up so guess I'll just go to one of my favorite spotting locations and try to get some pics of her on final......


Here is a photo of the inaugural flight arriving at SEA

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https://twitter.com/SeaTacAirport/statu ... 04641?s=20
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Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:18 pm

qf789 wrote:
ER757 wrote:
717atOGG wrote:
The inaugural Singapore-Seattle flight is currently about 2.5 hours out! I'm going out to catch it landing, I'll post photos here later.

Anyone know what festivities will be going on in SEA today? Apparently SQ made a Seattle-themed track celebrating the flight, but I haven't been able to find any other information.

https://onemileatatime.com/singapore-ai ... mix-track/

For sure doing the water cannon salute on arrival and I know there will be a bunch of volunteers at the arrival gate to assist arriving passengers. Not sure if there is any formal ceremony or not. By the time I responded to the email they already have enough people signed up so guess I'll just go to one of my favorite spotting locations and try to get some pics of her on final......


Here is a photo of the inaugural flight arriving at SEA

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https://twitter.com/SeaTacAirport/statu ... 04641?s=20

Nice! I got a few from the park above the north employee parking lot but they aren't a.net quality = you got a beauty there
 
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:14 am

ER757 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
ER757 wrote:
For sure doing the water cannon salute on arrival and I know there will be a bunch of volunteers at the arrival gate to assist arriving passengers. Not sure if there is any formal ceremony or not. By the time I responded to the email they already have enough people signed up so guess I'll just go to one of my favorite spotting locations and try to get some pics of her on final......


Here is a photo of the inaugural flight arriving at SEA

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https://twitter.com/SeaTacAirport/statu ... 04641?s=20

Nice! I got a few from the park above the north employee parking lot but they aren't a.net quality = you got a beauty there

That's an awesome shot! I was at the water tower park near the employee parking lot as well, and I got these shots of Singapore arriving, and a (lower quality) one of it in line for takeoff back to SIN.
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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:03 am

717atOGG wrote:
ER757 wrote:
qf789 wrote:

Here is a photo of the inaugural flight arriving at SEA

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https://twitter.com/SeaTacAirport/statu ... 04641?s=20

Nice! I got a few from the park above the north employee parking lot but they aren't a.net quality = you got a beauty there

That's an awesome shot! I was at the water tower park near the employee parking lot as well, and I got these shots of Singapore arriving, and a (lower quality) one of it in line for takeoff back to SIN.
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Is the DL plane an A350 also? Looks like it.
 
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:16 am

BoeingGuy wrote:
717atOGG wrote:
ER757 wrote:
Nice! I got a few from the park above the north employee parking lot but they aren't a.net quality = you got a beauty there

That's an awesome shot! I was at the water tower park near the employee parking lot as well, and I got these shots of Singapore arriving, and a (lower quality) one of it in line for takeoff back to SIN.
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Is the DL plane an A350 also? Looks like it.

I could be wrong but I think it's an A330 NEO
 
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:19 am

717atOGG wrote:
ER757 wrote:
qf789 wrote:

Here is a photo of the inaugural flight arriving at SEA

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https://twitter.com/SeaTacAirport/statu ... 04641?s=20

Nice! I got a few from the park above the north employee parking lot but they aren't a.net quality = you got a beauty there

That's an awesome shot! I was at the water tower park near the employee parking lot as well, and I got these shots of Singapore arriving, and a (lower quality) one of it in line for takeoff back to SIN.
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Nice pics! Were you with two other guys south of the water tower or with one other person down in the field north of the tower? Wondering which of the folks I saw was you. Or were you the guy that got in his truck about 30 seconds before I got in my car (parked right next to the truck)?
 
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