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audidudi
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:19 pm

UA947 wrote:
audidudi wrote:
I assume that MSNs #65 and #365 were both contractually delivered on Nov 30th, as both of them were delivered (flown away) on Dec 2nd.

Airbus A350 -1041 65 F-HMIL Air Caraïbes Atlantique delivery 02 Dec 2019 TLS-BOD, ex F‑WLXV
Airbus A350 -941 365 ZS-SDF South African Airways delivery 02 Dec 2019 TLS-XFW, for paint, ex F-WZGF

You assumed wrong for both. Msn 365 was contractually delivered on November 29 and 65 in December (01 or 02).

As I suspected, the delivery information for MSN 65 in reply #1130 above is incorrect.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:28 am

Can someone confirm that MSN350 (registered A7-ANM) is QRs #49 or #47 as stated? I was under the impression that they had taken delivery of 36 A359s, and have been registering the A35K in sequence, which would make A7-ANM the 13th (total 49)
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:42 am

It is #47 from their own orders having taken all 34 of their -900s. They also have 4 -900s leased from LATAM and a fifth ready for delivery, which creates the confusion over numbers.

Geoff
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:18 pm

3rdGen wrote:
Can someone confirm that MSN350 (registered A7-ANM) is QRs #49 or #47 as stated? I was under the impression that they had taken delivery of 36 A359s, and have been registering the A35K in sequence, which would make A7-ANM the 13th (total 49)

Maybe this will help

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCPXJ6eM4QZy61p-3xC8rrcortF-tupJLACqrU9whhLwmbEkRdqyk-LGge2FugfiPdYtELI6pN0CmL/pubhtml
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:31 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
It is #47 from their own orders having taken all 34 of their -900s. They also have 4 -900s leased from LATAM and a fifth ready for delivery, which creates the confusion over numbers.

Geoff


Ok that makes sense. I forgot about the LATAM.
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:17 pm

MSN 351 (HU) sporting its final reg (B-30DM); delivery imminent
MSN 363 (JJ#13) first CAF #AIB03GW
MSN 374 (BA#4) RTO - first flight scheduled for Tuesday
MSN 375 (ET#14) active at the delivery centre
MSN 376 (CZ#6) out on another test flight #AIB02NG
MSN 392 (AY#15) active on the flightline
MSN 394 (SQ#48-regional) rolled out of paint hangar
MSN 402 (BA#6) rolled out of FAL
MSN 406 (IB#8) rolled out of FAL
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:58 pm

MSN 375 (ET#14) first CAF #AIB03HD
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:26 pm

MSN 356 (QR#48) active at the delivery centre
MSN 370 (JL#5) on its delivery flight as JL8102. #337. #102 in 2019. #6 in December
MSN 374 (BA#4) maiden test flight #AIB01NR
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:54 pm

MSN 71 (VS#5) exited re-work with VS winglets; no engines/paint yet
MSN 313 (JJ#12-leased to QR) on its delivery flight as QR3350. #338. #103 in 2019. #7 in December
MSN 373 (MU#7) active at the delivery centre
MSN 376 (CZ#6) out on another test flight #AIB03NG
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:11 am

MSN 356 (QR#48) first CAF #AIB04NQ
MSN 373 (MU#7) first CAF #AIB02HI
MSN 375 (ET#14) on its delivery flight as ET9202. #339. #104 in 2019. #8 in December
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:55 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 71 (VS#5) exited re-work with VS winglets; no engines/paint yet
MSN 313 (JJ#12-leased to QR) on its delivery flight as QR3350. #338. #103 in 2019. #7 in December
MSN 373 (MU#7) active at the delivery centre
MSN 376 (CZ#6) out on another test flight #AIB03NG


How is MSN 71 VS5? Is it one of the prototypes?
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:35 pm

Arion640 wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 71 (VS#5) exited re-work with VS winglets; no engines/paint yet
MSN 313 (JJ#12-leased to QR) on its delivery flight as QR3350. #338. #103 in 2019. #7 in December
MSN 373 (MU#7) active at the delivery centre
MSN 376 (CZ#6) out on another test flight #AIB03NG


How is MSN 71 VS5? Is it one of the prototypes?


Yes - it was the third -1000 test frame.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:48 pm

StTim wrote:
Arion640 wrote:

How is MSN 71 VS5? Is it one of the prototypes?


Yes - it was the third -1000 test frame.

But the second -1000 in the air, so you decide ….
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:22 am

MSN 320 (FJ#2) on its delivery flight as FJ2359. #340. #105 in 2019. #9 in December
MSN 363 (JJ#13) on its delivery flight as JJ9540. #341. #106 in 2019. #10 in December
MSN 374 (BA#4) out on another test flight #AIB02NR
MSN 387 (OZ#11) rolled out of paint hangar
MSN 408 (MU#8) rolled out of FAL
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:11 am

MSN 270 (??) maintenance engine run and taxi test (12/16)
MSN 356 (QR#48) out on another CAF #AIB04NQ (12/17)
MSN 373 (MU#7) sporting its final reg (B-30CW) - delivery imminent (12/17)
MSN 374 (BA#4) first CAF #AIB03NR (12/17)
MSN 376 (CZ#6) active at the delivery centre (12/16)
MSN 392 (AY#15) initial engine run (12/16)
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:10 am

MSN 356 (QR#48) sporting its final reg (A7-ANN); delivery imminent
MSN 392 (AY#15) RTO - first flight scheduled for Thursday
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:09 am

MSN373 delivered with first A350 cockpit touchscreens:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/china ... 51.article
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:24 am

Arion640 wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 71 (VS#5) exited re-work with VS winglets; no engines/paint yet
MSN 313 (JJ#12-leased to QR) on its delivery flight as QR3350. #338. #103 in 2019. #7 in December
MSN 373 (MU#7) active at the delivery centre
MSN 376 (CZ#6) out on another test flight #AIB03NG


How is MSN 71 VS5? Is it one of the prototypes?


Yes, and it's currently being reworked:

Image
Msn71 F-WWXL 12/12/2019 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

One can clearly see the VS winglets.
Good moaning!
 
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Google A350 production & delivery website shutdown

Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:53 pm

In case anybody is wondering where the unofficial A350 production & delivery website has gone:

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

Apparently the owners of the site were "asked" to remove the spreadsheet from the website:

https://twitter.com/A350_Production/sta ... 1541945344

We have been asked to remove all spreadsheets from our website, and will comply with this order.

This is the reason for the shutdown of our website effective immediately.


Bit of a shame as it was quite a useful resource.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:55 pm

This is shocking to me, I do not think this website was hosting any private data, was it ?
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:25 am

MSN 355 (HU) maintenance engine run and taxi test
MSN 373 (MU#7) on its delivery flight as MU2999. #342. #107 in 2019. #11 in December
MSN 374 (BA#4) out on another CAF #AIB04NR
MSN 392 (AY#15) maiden test flight #AIB01IW
 
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Re: Google A350 production & delivery website shutdown

Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:53 am

Breathe wrote:
In case anybody is wondering where the unofficial A350 production & delivery website has gone:

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

Apparently the owners of the site were "asked" to remove the spreadsheet from the website:

https://twitter.com/A350_Production/sta ... 1541945344

We have been asked to remove all spreadsheets from our website, and will comply with this order.

This is the reason for the shutdown of our website effective immediately.


Bit of a shame as it was quite a useful resource.


Is that also the case with this site?

https://aibfamily.flights/production-list/A330

What a shame. I assume it was Airbus wanting them closed. Was someone inside the company giving out information they shouldn't? Very disappointing.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:13 am

I suspect it was the publication of future MSN allocations that has led to such sites being closed or "pruned" either because Airbus acted on its own account or because a customer had complained to them. Such data is, and has always been, confidential and therefore leaked by one or more persons with access to the data. That historical data should also be required to be culled is a source of regret and smacks of legal heavy handedness.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:05 am

Wildlander wrote:
I suspect it was the publication of future MSN allocations that has led to such sites being closed or "pruned" either because Airbus acted on its own account or because a customer had complained to them. Such data is, and has always been, confidential and therefore leaked by one or more persons with access to the data. That historical data should also be required to be culled is a source of regret and smacks of legal heavy handedness.

It was Qatar Airways
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:52 am

Opus99 wrote:
Wildlander wrote:
I suspect it was the publication of future MSN allocations that has led to such sites being closed or "pruned" either because Airbus acted on its own account or because a customer had complained to them. Such data is, and has always been, confidential and therefore leaked by one or more persons with access to the data. That historical data should also be required to be culled is a source of regret and smacks of legal heavy handedness.

It was Qatar Airways

Why?
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:53 am

Will QR also put the squeeze on this site?

http://nyc787.blogspot.com/
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:54 am

Opus99 wrote:
Wildlander wrote:
I suspect it was the publication of future MSN allocations that has led to such sites being closed or "pruned" either because Airbus acted on its own account or because a customer had complained to them. Such data is, and has always been, confidential and therefore leaked by one or more persons with access to the data. That historical data should also be required to be culled is a source of regret and smacks of legal heavy handedness.

It was Qatar Airways

How do you know for sure ?
 
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Re: Google A350 production & delivery website shutdown

Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:13 pm

PM wrote:
Breathe wrote:
In case anybody is wondering where the unofficial A350 production & delivery website has gone:

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

Apparently the owners of the site were "asked" to remove the spreadsheet from the website:

https://twitter.com/A350_Production/sta ... 1541945344

We have been asked to remove all spreadsheets from our website, and will comply with this order.

This is the reason for the shutdown of our website effective immediately.


Bit of a shame as it was quite a useful resource.


Is that also the case with this site?

https://aibfamily.flights/production-list/A330

What a shame. I assume it was Airbus wanting them closed. Was someone inside the company giving out information they shouldn't? Very disappointing.

I fully agree. What a shame on that great spreadsheet. Wasnt it Starbucks who ran that one?

This one is still working though.
https://www.abcdlist.nl/a350f/a350f.html
 
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Re: Google A350 production & delivery website shutdown

Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:45 pm

Asiaflyer wrote:
PM wrote:
Breathe wrote:
In case anybody is wondering where the unofficial A350 production & delivery website has gone:

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

Apparently the owners of the site were "asked" to remove the spreadsheet from the website:

https://twitter.com/A350_Production/sta ... 1541945344



Bit of a shame as it was quite a useful resource.


Is that also the case with this site?

https://aibfamily.flights/production-list/A330

What a shame. I assume it was Airbus wanting them closed. Was someone inside the company giving out information they shouldn't? Very disappointing.

I fully agree. What a shame on that great spreadsheet. Wasnt it Starbucks who ran that one?

This one is still working though.
https://www.abcdlist.nl/a350f/a350f.html

Shhh !! Don't tell AAB....
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:51 pm

TC957 wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
Wildlander wrote:
I suspect it was the publication of future MSN allocations that has led to such sites being closed or "pruned" either because Airbus acted on its own account or because a customer had complained to them. Such data is, and has always been, confidential and therefore leaked by one or more persons with access to the data. That historical data should also be required to be culled is a source of regret and smacks of legal heavy handedness.

It was Qatar Airways

How do you know for sure ?

If you open the tweet and scroll down to the replies it’s confirmed by a few people that it’s QR. Im not surprised though
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:01 pm

Opus99 wrote:
TC957 wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
It was Qatar Airways

How do you know for sure ?

If you open the tweet and scroll down to the replies it’s confirmed by a few people that it’s QR. Im not surprised though


You are just going to go with what random strangers are saying on the internet lol

The problem was that the A350 Production spreadsheet was outdated. Because the site's main purposes was that spreadsheet they deiced to shut it down. The guy who runs AIB Family Flights followed by hiding his Production List because he didn't want to get in trouble by Airbus either. That was from the Project's Discord. Apparently he'll do it in a different way, but not providing 'Aircraft information months in advance'. - https://aibfamily.flights/production-list

Anyways, there are still other sources we can leverage :)
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:52 pm

bspc wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
TC957 wrote:
How do you know for sure ?

If you open the tweet and scroll down to the replies it’s confirmed by a few people that it’s QR. Im not surprised though


You are just going to go with what random strangers are saying on the internet lol

The problem was that the A350 Production spreadsheet was outdated. Because the site's main purposes was that spreadsheet they deiced to shut it down. The guy who runs AIB Family Flights followed by hiding his Production List because he didn't want to get in trouble by Airbus either. That was from the Project's Discord. Apparently he'll do it in a different way, but not providing 'Aircraft information months in advance'. - https://aibfamily.flights/production-list

Anyways, there are still other sources we can leverage :)

Abeg relax. We needed your clarification thanks lol
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:06 pm

bspc wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
TC957 wrote:
How do you know for sure ?

If you open the tweet and scroll down to the replies it’s confirmed by a few people that it’s QR. Im not surprised though


You are just going to go with what random strangers are saying on the internet lol

The problem was that the A350 Production spreadsheet was outdated. Because the site's main purposes was that spreadsheet they deiced to shut it down. The guy who runs AIB Family Flights followed by hiding his Production List because he didn't want to get in trouble by Airbus either. That was from the Project's Discord. Apparently he'll do it in a different way, but not providing 'Aircraft information months in advance'. - https://aibfamily.flights/production-list

Anyways, there are still other sources we can leverage :)

Funny how they’re not strangers but okay
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:36 pm

MSN 356 (QR#48) on its delivery flight as QR3350. #343. #108 in 2019. #12 in December
MSN 376 (CZ#6) first CAF #AIB04NG
MSN 387 (OZ#11) active on the flightline
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:03 pm

MSN 374 (BA#4) on its delivery flight as BA9153. #344. #109 in 2019. #13 in December
MSN 379 (SQ#46-Regional) active on the flightline
MSN 386 (BA#5) active on the flightline
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:25 pm

MSN 401 (CX#40) rolled out of paint hangar
MSN 407 (AF#5) rolled out of FAL
MSN 410 (AY#16) rolled out of FAL
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:33 pm

MSN 376 (CZ#6) delivered as B30CE. #345. #110 in 2019. #14 in December

This should be the last delivery flight of the year. I strongly presume MSNs 351/355 have been contractually delivered making it 112 for the year.
 
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