BA744PHX wrote:atcsundevil wrote:AntonioMartin wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but...aren't Condor and Eurowings part of the Lufthansa Group both? And...I wonder how this will affect Condor's Phoenix flights?
Condor is not part of the Lufthansa Group. They used to be, and they might be again now that Thomas Cook is putting them up for sale, but they aren't currently owned by LH. If/when LH buys them, then there may be some changes.
Does anyone else think Condor may pull out? when LH entered both AUS & SAN they cancelled service, I know EW is still not LH but part of LH Group, what are your thoughts?
I think they probably will pull out at some point. At the very least, so much capacity is going to kill the yields. It's easier for Condor to just move on to another market. If LH buys them as it seems they might, I would expect EW longhaul to fold into Condor anyway.
The question is whether or not LH will return to PHX though. I'm still of the opinion that LH doesn't currently operate the right type of aircraft to serve the market profitably, so I think that's probably their biggest hurdle. EW can probably make the A343 work given their lower operating costs, but it'll be harder to make it work for LH. That was the same problem LH had 15+ years ago. If they had the 787, it would be a totally different story. However, the A359 is probably too big, and anything else is likely either too large or too inefficient. I'm not so sure the PHX market has matured enough to support LH just yet.