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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:16 am

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Any reports of TSA backups or delays at PDX this weekend?

From what I've heard, there's actually been minimal impact at PDX so far, but that will change the longer this goes on for. MIA had to close down an entire terminal today... :(
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:34 am

seb146 wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
PDX757 wrote:
Here’s a whacky G4 thought. Does anyone think they would consider HIO as an entry into the Portland market? PDX can be a pain to get to from the west side, especially during high traffic times.

I had actually thought about this before. I was at the airport not too long ago (not for any particular reason, but I drove by and thought I'd do some spotting there for a few minutes).

Anyhow, I'm sure the community there wouldn't be too thrilled with it, and neither would the PoP, tbh. Although Intel may benifit from it.

I'm not too familiar with the runway lengths there. Could a G4 A319 even land/take off there?


There had been talk of upgrading HIO to handle more cargo but, of course, NIMBYs started crying. I wonder if QX could have flights HIO to SEA, EUG, MFR, and GEG? Or even just HIO-SEA?


If QX was a stand alone carrier like they ere a decade ago, MAYBE, but with AS making th decisions, I very much doubt it anytime soon.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:45 pm

OAG 1/13/2019:
AS FAT-PDX JUN 1.3>1.9[1.2] JUL 1.1>1.9[1.1] AUG 1.1>1.9[1.1] SEP 1.0>1.9[1.0] OCT 1.0>1.9[1.0]
*AS KOA-PDX JUN 0.6>0.2[0.6] JUL 0.6>0[0.5] AUG 0.4>0[0.0]
AS PDX-SEA JUN 23>18[23] JUL 25>19[25] AUG 24>19[24] SEP 22>19[22] OCT 22>19[22]
F9 DEN-PDX MAR 1.4>1.0[1.0] APR 1.4>1.0[1.4]
SY BNA-PDX MAY 0>0.3[0] JUN 0>0.5[0] JUL 0>0.5[0] AUG 0>0.4[0]
SY PDX-SAT JUN 0>0.5[0] JUL 0>0.5[0] AUG 0>0.4[0]
SY PDX-STL JUN 0>0.2[0] JUL 0>0.3[0] AUG 0>0.2[0]

Notes:
- 2nd FAT flight is sustained through the summer.
- KOA is suspended until next November.
- F9 drops 1 of 2 DEN flights.
- SY expansion/new routes.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:04 pm

I was looking at a summer sample of 2019 schedule between SEA and PDX and all 19 flights are Q400's with only 3 mainlands next summer. What a huge difference in capacity from summer 2018...
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:55 pm

lhpdx wrote:
I was looking at a summer sample of 2019 schedule between SEA and PDX and all 19 flights are Q400's with only 3 mainlands next summer. What a huge difference in capacity from summer 2018...

It doesn't surprise me that almost all of them are Q400s this time around, since the E175s will be flying routes from PAE instead.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:13 pm

FA9295 wrote:
lhpdx wrote:
I was looking at a summer sample of 2019 schedule between SEA and PDX and all 19 flights are Q400's with only 3 mainlands next summer. What a huge difference in capacity from summer 2018...

It doesn't surprise me that almost all of them are Q400s this time around, since the E175s will be flying routes from PAE instead.



Once the dust settles what is AS total flights in summer 2019 compared to 2018? I'm also curious to see the breakdown on what AS/QX combined routes have gained/loss.......
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:31 pm

lhpdx wrote:
I was looking at a summer sample of 2019 schedule between SEA and PDX and all 19 flights are Q400's with only 3 mainlands next summer. What a huge difference in capacity from summer 2018...


As we get closer QX will be routing E-175’s between PDX & SEA, it’s the easy way to bridge aircraft between bases. There is no plan for OO to be operating the route.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:48 am

F9 is going to be discontinuing PDX-CLE nonstop service, and AS could add PDX-CLE nonstop service if it enters the CLE market.

Other top destinations traveled to from PDX that aren't currently served nonstop out of PDX on AS include FLL, IND, BNA, MSY, RDU, TPA, and IAD. AS could also add nonstop service to FLL, IND, BNA, MSY, RDU, TPA, and IAD out of PDX.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:14 am

jplatts wrote:
F9 is going to be discontinuing PDX-CLE nonstop service, and AS could add PDX-CLE nonstop service if it enters the CLE market.

Other top destinations traveled to from PDX that aren't currently served nonstop out of PDX on AS include FLL, IND, BNA, MSY, RDU, TPA, and IAD. AS could also add nonstop service to FLL, IND, BNA, MSY, RDU, TPA, and IAD out of PDX.


I would love to see AS add all of those routes you listed, but in all honestly AS appears to be shrinking it footprint at PDX in favor of Seattle and it's other hubs and focus cities...Perhaps Sun country might step in and fill the void...
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:17 am

lhpdx wrote:
jplatts wrote:
F9 is going to be discontinuing PDX-CLE nonstop service, and AS could add PDX-CLE nonstop service if it enters the CLE market.

Other top destinations traveled to from PDX that aren't currently served nonstop out of PDX on AS include FLL, IND, BNA, MSY, RDU, TPA, and IAD. AS could also add nonstop service to FLL, IND, BNA, MSY, RDU, TPA, and IAD out of PDX.


I would love to see AS add all of those routes you listed, but in all honestly AS appears to be shrinking it footprint at PDX in favor of Seattle and it's other hubs and focus cities...Perhaps Sun country might step in and fill the void...


The KOA flight has always been seasonal. It’s not cancelling the route. AS is making network adjustments all over trying to be more efficient. If they started cutting flights all over from Portland, I’d understand the worry, but they’re not.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:43 am

flyoregon wrote:
lhpdx wrote:
jplatts wrote:
F9 is going to be discontinuing PDX-CLE nonstop service, and AS could add PDX-CLE nonstop service if it enters the CLE market.

Other top destinations traveled to from PDX that aren't currently served nonstop out of PDX on AS include FLL, IND, BNA, MSY, RDU, TPA, and IAD. AS could also add nonstop service to FLL, IND, BNA, MSY, RDU, TPA, and IAD out of PDX.


I would love to see AS add all of those routes you listed, but in all honestly AS appears to be shrinking it footprint at PDX in favor of Seattle and it's other hubs and focus cities...Perhaps Sun country might step in and fill the void...


The KOA flight has always been seasonal. It’s not cancelling the route. AS is making network adjustments all over trying to be more efficient. If they started cutting flights all over from Portland, I’d understand the worry, but they’re not.

Yeah, I thought that offering the KOA flight in the summer was a bit odd. Makes sense to adjust that route accordingly. In looking at Alaska's most recent PDX route network adjustments, the MKE cut is a bummer, but given Milwaukee's close presence to ORD, that shift also makes sense. As for the ATL flight, that's just an unneeded competitive route with Delta, and the plane is better suited elsewhere within their network.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:53 am

FA9295 wrote:
flyoregon wrote:
lhpdx wrote:

I would love to see AS add all of those routes you listed, but in all honestly AS appears to be shrinking it footprint at PDX in favor of Seattle and it's other hubs and focus cities...Perhaps Sun country might step in and fill the void...


The KOA flight has always been seasonal. It’s not cancelling the route. AS is making network adjustments all over trying to be more efficient. If they started cutting flights all over from Portland, I’d understand the worry, but they’re not.

Yeah, I thought that offering the KOA flight in the summer was a bit odd. Makes sense to adjust that route accordingly. In looking at Alaska's most recent PDX route network adjustments, the MKE cut is a bummer, but given Milwaukee's close presence to ORD, that shift also makes sense. As for the ATL flight, that's just an unneeded competitive route with Delta, and the plane is better suited elsewhere within their network.


Exactly, and it sucks losing a flight to a city that was never served like MKE or OMA, but if it’s not making money, then don’t fly it. Doesn’t mean a city is being dehubbed. They added an additional flight to Chicago which makes more sense anyway. No need to freak out yet.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:53 pm

https://www.kgw.com/article/money/busin ... e7a46cdcbb

Good to see AS investing in Oregon as well as Washington...
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:35 am

It looks like Hawaiian's PDX-HNL flight goes back to the A330 from April 1st to June 5th.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:46 am

I think if HIO were to ever get commercial service, it would be to SJC and/or SFO before anything else. The lucrative tech contracts would make those worthwhile. If those pax had to connect in SEA, they might as well drive to PDX.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:03 am

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I think if HIO were to ever get commercial service, it would be to SJC and/or SFO before anything else. The lucrative tech contracts would make those worthwhile. If those pax had to connect in SEA, they might as well drive to PDX.


That's a good point. I try to use Eugene whenever possible but have learned that unless going from PDX instead is a connection anyway (such as through SEA), it's often not worth the effort and extra cost of a connection from EUG when I could drive to PDX for a non-stop.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:03 am

lhpdx wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
lhpdx wrote:
I was looking at a summer sample of 2019 schedule between SEA and PDX and all 19 flights are Q400's with only 3 mainlands next summer. What a huge difference in capacity from summer 2018...

It doesn't surprise me that almost all of them are Q400s this time around, since the E175s will be flying routes from PAE instead.



Once the dust settles what is AS total flights in summer 2019 compared to 2018? I'm also curious to see the breakdown on what AS/QX combined routes have gained/loss.......


Summer schedule is far from finalized.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:18 am

Speaking of summer schedule, it looks like Alaska's second PDX-BOS flight will be on the A320 this summer.

Seems a bit odd since I thought that they were transitioning away from transcons with the A320s.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:12 am

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Summer schedule is far from finalized.

:checkmark: We shouldn't even look at summer (June 6) PDX-SEA skeds until at least March or even April. These are among the last skeds to be finalized, after all other routes are finished and AAG sees where and when a/c are needed (and what they have left to work with!)

FA9295 wrote:
Speaking of summer schedule, it looks like Alaska's second PDX-BOS flight will be on the A320 this summer. Seems a bit odd since I thought that they were transitioning away from transcons with the A320s.

I agree. FYI, SAN's BOS r/t is also becoming a 'Bus starting in June. (Too far off for me to tell which flavor of 'Bus it might be.) When I saw it, I thought the same as you.

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:39 pm

SANFan wrote:
Chugach wrote:
Summer schedule is far from finalized.

:checkmark: We shouldn't even look at summer (June 6) PDX-SEA skeds until at least March or even April. These are among the last skeds to be finalized, after all other routes are finished and AAG sees where and when a/c are needed (and what they have left to work with!)

FA9295 wrote:
Speaking of summer schedule, it looks like Alaska's second PDX-BOS flight will be on the A320 this summer. Seems a bit odd since I thought that they were transitioning away from transcons with the A320s.

I agree. FYI, SAN's BOS r/t is also becoming a 'Bus starting in June. (Too far off for me to tell which flavor of 'Bus it might be.) When I saw it, I thought the same as you.

bb


Hey B-, I chatted with my buddy the other day, expect more Airbus where they have not been before. Each route has been evaluated & there are always metrics we are not privy to, but AAG uses them for the most effective aircraft per route, this is a big job, but the Airbus are not plying transcontinental flights as often as they were, but there has never been a plan to eliminate it entirely, just to upgauge the heaviest routes like JFK, BOS, BWI, DCA & Hawaii + so many more to their ever growing fleet of 737’s.

I only got a few minutes to talk, the Airbus are playing their planned role, right between the 738 & 739 & E-175. They still do transcontinental flights, it allows 2 x daily on more routes & create the best dynamics for their routes. I’ll be curious if AS drags their heels a bit, when the Airbus go back to the lessors?

Lastly, PDX-SEA is usually the route QX juggles the most with varying aircraft & will bring in OO to run it if QX can’t. I know OO doesn’t operate the route. I would expect the same 3 mainline flights to continue (320.738.739) but I can guarantee that some of those Q-400 place holders will be E-175’s.

QX needs to route the E-175 between it’s two largest bases, it’s going to see changes. AS also wants to remain #1 on this route & the passengers like the jets over the props to/from Seattle. Quite a few regular flyers don’t appreciate the cramped Y seat on QX to SEA when you’re in F out of there. On DL their PDX-SEA flights all offer a premium cabin.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:06 pm

^^
Delta is up to 7x daily on PDX-SEA or so.
Very strong. And no prop planes.

I am doing a couple pdx-sea runs in the next few weeks. I won’t book q400s anymore.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:22 pm

HA26 HNL-PDX diverted to OAK last night. Due to arrive today at 11:08 am. Hotel rooms for everyone? Sun Country HNL-PDX arrived 27 min late yesterday.
Major airports with no PDX nonstops: MIA, FLL, TPA, IND, MSY, CLE, CVG, PIT, RDU, CMH
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:34 pm

jbpdx wrote:
HA26 HNL-PDX diverted to OAK last night. Due to arrive today at 11:08 am. Hotel rooms for everyone? Sun Country HNL-PDX arrived 27 min late yesterday.


Fog at PDX. There were a few diversions to Seattle as well.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:14 pm

AS OGG-PDX JUN 1.7>2.0[1.6] JUL 1.6>2[1.6] AUG 1.5>1.9[1.6]

This was all that was in the OAG update today. It looks like this is where the 737 will be flying to instead of KOA.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:17 pm

Chugach wrote:
jbpdx wrote:
HA26 HNL-PDX diverted to OAK last night. Due to arrive today at 11:08 am. Hotel rooms for everyone? Sun Country HNL-PDX arrived 27 min late yesterday.


Fog at PDX. There were a few diversions to Seattle as well.



Sun Country left HNL one hour after Hawaiian and made it in OK.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:37 am

Would Hawaiian ever consider starting PDX-KOA/LIH? Was thinking 3x/week PDX-LIH and 4x/week PDX-KOA.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:40 am

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Would Hawaiian ever consider starting PDX-KOA/LIH? Was thinking 3x/week PDX-LIH and 4x/week PDX-KOA.

The only TPAC routes that HA flies from LIH is to LAX and OAK, and from KOA it's just to LAX. I doubt that PDX would be their next market entry from those two airports, but stranger things have happened.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:44 am

So the airport's website was finally updated with nonstop destinations, and I came across some interesting things.
- Frontier's AUS flight was removed, but they didn't take off CLE, so maybe the port knows that this route is coming back next summer.
- Sun Country's new routes were added. Interestingly, BNA and STL are listed as seasonal, but SAT is listed as year-round. Perhaps PDX-SAT will be a strong market for them.

https://flypdx.com/PDX/NonstopDestinations
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:59 am

The PDX - STL times for SY have been posted on the STL forum.

PDX-STL 1435-2015
STL-PDX 2110-2315

These times are great for an O&D Pax like me. Not so good for any connections outbound PDX in STL.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:06 pm

Has anyone booked on PAE flights actually gotten rebooked or heard back from AS yet? I've only gotten the "You will be confirmed on the closest available Seattle-Tacoma International Airport (SEA) flight." email.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:53 am

FA9295 wrote:
So the airport's website was finally updated with nonstop destinations, and I came across some interesting things.
- Frontier's AUS flight was removed, but they didn't take off CLE, so maybe the port knows that this route is coming back next summer.
- Sun Country's new routes were added. Interestingly, BNA and STL are listed as seasonal, but SAT is listed as year-round. Perhaps PDX-SAT will be a strong market for them.

https://flypdx.com/PDX/NonstopDestinations


Interesting, I could definitely see SY doing PDX-SAT in the winter months. I find it so crazy that one year ago, only MSP was served from PDX and now there is 9 routes and counting on SY throughout the year. Wonder what that number will be this time next year?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:26 am

rainaviation wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
So the airport's website was finally updated with nonstop destinations, and I came across some interesting things.
- Frontier's AUS flight was removed, but they didn't take off CLE, so maybe the port knows that this route is coming back next summer.
- Sun Country's new routes were added. Interestingly, BNA and STL are listed as seasonal, but SAT is listed as year-round. Perhaps PDX-SAT will be a strong market for them.

https://flypdx.com/PDX/NonstopDestinations


Interesting, I could definitely see SY doing PDX-SAT in the winter months. I find it so crazy that one year ago, only MSP was served from PDX and now there is 9 routes and counting on SY throughout the year. Wonder what that number will be this time next year?

Right now SY only has access to two gates at PDX (D4 and D6). These two gates are also shared with Frontier and Spirit. With that being said, I don't think they can expand much more right now.

In concourse C, there are plenty of open gates, but unfortunately AS owns most of them, and they aren't maximizing their gate space really well right now...

I could see in the future SY wanting to expand more, but can't due to limited gate space in concourse D--yet there are plenty of gates open in concourse C, but SY can't use them because AS owns them.

Not to mention that B6 has gate C6 all to themselves, but they only utilize it twice in a day (1 daily early morning departure to LGB and 1 less than daily red-eye departure to JFK). So for most of the day, no one uses gate C6. Yes, in the summer time, ANC and BOS flights are added, but there still is a lot of time where that gate can be utilized, but isn't.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:44 am

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Would Hawaiian ever consider starting PDX-KOA/LIH? Was thinking 3x/week PDX-LIH and 4x/week PDX-KOA.


Sure they will & if HA thinks they can make money doing it, they will add it. The A-321neo was a good choice for them & service to the West Coast. While they evaluate what outer island traffic they will add to the mainland, HA has been cautious in the past & I expect the same restraint going forward.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:09 pm

PDX Portland International Airport

2018 End of Year Traffic Report
Domestic 19,020,622 +3.7 %
International 862,166 +15.4%
Total 19,882,788 +4.2%

December 2018
Domestic 1,538,680 +1.6%
International 62,180 +8.2%
Total 1,600,860 +1.9%
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:12 pm

jbpdx wrote:
PDX Portland International Airport

2018 End of Year Traffic Report
Domestic 19,020,622 +3.7 %
International 862,166 +15.4%
Total 19,882,788 +4.2%

December 2018
Domestic 1,538,680 +1.6%
International 62,180 +8.2%
Total 1,600,860 +1.9%


How was airline performance with growth/loss?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:37 am

FA9295 wrote:
So the airport's website was finally updated with nonstop destinations, and I came across some interesting things.
- Frontier's AUS flight was removed, but they didn't take off CLE, so maybe the port knows that this route is coming back next summer.
- Sun Country's new routes were added. Interestingly, BNA and STL are listed as seasonal, but SAT is listed as year-round. Perhaps PDX-SAT will be a strong market for them.

https://flypdx.com/PDX/NonstopDestinations


Not sure all the seasonal routes are right. MCI is seasonal on AS and WN and it doesn't have a star by it. Not that I think STL/BNA aren't seasonal, but maybe SAT is also.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:49 pm

jbpdx wrote:
PDX Portland International Airport

2018 End of Year Traffic Report
Domestic 19,020,622 +3.7 %
International 862,166 +15.4%
Total 19,882,788 +4.2%

December 2018
Domestic 1,538,680 +1.6%
International 62,180 +8.2%
Total 1,600,860 +1.9%


Missed it by a whisker. Well this year for sure. Impressive international growth!
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:55 pm

PDX757 wrote:
jbpdx wrote:
PDX Portland International Airport

2018 End of Year Traffic Report
Domestic 19,020,622 +3.7 %
International 862,166 +15.4%
Total 19,882,788 +4.2%

December 2018
Domestic 1,538,680 +1.6%
International 62,180 +8.2%
Total 1,600,860 +1.9%


Missed it by a whisker. Well this year for sure. Impressive international growth!


Wow, that's great for PDX! The PDX-MEX on AM is gone, but should be more than offset by PDX-LHR going daily between May and October this year.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:53 pm

N174UA wrote:
PDX757 wrote:
jbpdx wrote:
PDX Portland International Airport

2018 End of Year Traffic Report
Domestic 19,020,622 +3.7 %
International 862,166 +15.4%
Total 19,882,788 +4.2%

December 2018
Domestic 1,538,680 +1.6%
International 62,180 +8.2%
Total 1,600,860 +1.9%


Missed it by a whisker. Well this year for sure. Impressive international growth!


Wow, that's great for PDX! The PDX-MEX on AM is gone, but should be more than offset by PDX-LHR going daily between May and October this year.


The international growth is great to see. I doubt AM is the reason for that, but further proof the market can and does support it. So it would be nice if airlines took notice.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:36 pm

N174UA wrote:
PDX757 wrote:
jbpdx wrote:
PDX Portland International Airport

Wow, that's great for PDX! The PDX-MEX on AM is gone, but should be more than offset by PDX-LHR going daily between May and October this year.


Missed the news that PDX-LHR is daily in the summer. Glad to see this. Hope it gets extended beyond the summer season, even if it's at a lesser frequency.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:44 am

flyoregon wrote:
N174UA wrote:
PDX757 wrote:

Missed it by a whisker. Well this year for sure. Impressive international growth!


Wow, that's great for PDX! The PDX-MEX on AM is gone, but should be more than offset by PDX-LHR going daily between May and October this year.


The international growth is great to see. I doubt AM is the reason for that, but further proof the market can and does support it. So it would be nice if airlines took notice.


I wouldn't be surprised to see PDX-MEX eventually return, maybe on Volaris or possibly AM seasonally or less than daily. AM handled 84,057 passengers in 2018 at PDX.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:35 am

ANA787 wrote:
flyoregon wrote:
N174UA wrote:

Wow, that's great for PDX! The PDX-MEX on AM is gone, but should be more than offset by PDX-LHR going daily between May and October this year.


The international growth is great to see. I doubt AM is the reason for that, but further proof the market can and does support it. So it would be nice if airlines took notice.


I wouldn't be surprised to see PDX-MEX eventually return, maybe on Volaris or possibly AM seasonally or less than daily. AM handled 84,057 passengers in 2018 at PDX.


My money would be on Volaris.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:20 pm

Delta is still operating PDX-HNL on Saturdays, looks like through March, after the brief holiday schedule. Was this announced? Also, Hawaiian used the A332 PDX-HNL this weekend.
Major airports with no PDX nonstops: MIA, FLL, TPA, IND, MSY, CLE, CVG, PIT, RDU, CMH
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:56 pm

flyoregon wrote:
ANA787 wrote:
flyoregon wrote:

The international growth is great to see. I doubt AM is the reason for that, but further proof the market can and does support it. So it would be nice if airlines took notice.


I wouldn't be surprised to see PDX-MEX eventually return, maybe on Volaris or possibly AM seasonally or less than daily. AM handled 84,057 passengers in 2018 at PDX.


My money would be on Volaris.

Yes, if this route returns it'll definitely be on Volaris. However, I think if the port wants this route to return, then they need to express that to them. I don't think that they will just add the route on their own.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:00 pm

jbpdx wrote:
Delta is still operating PDX-HNL on Saturdays, looks like through March, after the brief holiday schedule. Was this announced? Also, Hawaiian used the A332 PDX-HNL this weekend.


In looking at Delta's schedule for PDX-HNL there are also nonstop flights operating throughout March on Friday's and Sunday's, thus a Fri, Sat, Sun nonstop offering.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:46 pm

FA9295 wrote:
flyoregon wrote:
ANA787 wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised to see PDX-MEX eventually return, maybe on Volaris or possibly AM seasonally or less than daily. AM handled 84,057 passengers in 2018 at PDX.


My money would be on Volaris.

Yes, if this route returns it'll definitely be on Volaris. However, I think if the port wants this route to return, then they need to express that to them. I don't think that they will just add the route on their own.


I would highly doubt Volaris would touch MEX from PDX. They don’t even go daily in their high season through GDL, where their connection opportunities are greater from the west coast. Why would they arrempt to water down an already less than daily flight?

‘I wouldn't be surprised to see PDX-MEX eventually return, maybe on Volaris or possibly AM seasonally or less than daily. AM handled 84,057 passengers in 2018 at PDX...’

That equals about 117 passengers per flight, or 74% of capacity. Not great (coupled with the long stage length) unless the seats up front are full. AM has a history of starting, stopping, re-starting cities. If anyone were to do PDX-MEX again, my money would be on AM giving it another shot.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:18 am

Just came across something a bit odd...

Starting June 6th, Alaska's SLC-PDX schedule shows two flights scheduled within 23 minutes of each other. One departs SLC and 12:15 PM (mainline 737), and the next departs at 12:38 PM (Skywest E175): https://www.google.com/flights#flt=SLC. ... 1;t:f;tt:o

Is this perhaps a misfile on their part? If not, then it's certainly an interesting way for them to utilize their fleet on that particular route...
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:11 am

FA9295 wrote:
Just came across something a bit odd...

Starting June 6th, Alaska's SLC-PDX schedule shows two flights scheduled within 23 minutes of each other. One departs SLC and 12:15 PM (mainline 737), and the next departs at 12:38 PM (Skywest E175): https://www.google.com/flights#flt=SLC. ... 1;t:f;tt:o

Is this perhaps a misfile on their part? If not, then it's certainly an interesting way for them to utilize their fleet on that particular route...


Yeah, talk about odd, I just looked on alaskaair.com SLC-PDX on 08JUN and the fare is $49! Grab it
before it's gone! Could be an error?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:05 pm

Westjet just added PDX-YYC according to the OAG thread.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:10 pm

AS BOI-PDX AUG 7>6[7] SEP 7>0[7] OCT 7>0[7]
AS BOI-SEA SEP 8>9[8] OCT 8>9[8]
PAE was delayed it appears (govt shutdown?)
AS LAS-PAE FEB 0.5>0[0]
AS LAS-PDX JUN 3>4[3] JUL 3>4[3] AUG 3>4[3] SEP 3>4[3] OCT 3>4[3]
AS LAS-SEA JUN 9>8[9] JUL 9>8[9] AUG 9>8[9]
AS LAX-PAE FEB 1.8>0[0]
AS PAE-PDX FEB 1.3>0[0]
AS PAE-PHX FEB 0.4>0[0]
AS PAE-SAN FEB 0.7>0[0]
AS PAE-SFO FEB 1.1>0[0] MAR 2>1.5[0]
AS PAE-SJC FEB 0.6>0[0]
AS PDX-PHX JUN 1.5>2[1.1] JUL 1.4>2[1.0] AUG 1.3>2[1.3] SEP 1.0>2[1.0] OCT 1.0>2[1.0]
AS PDX-RNO SEP 3>4[3] OCT 3>4[3]
AS PDX-SFO JUN 7>8[8] JUL 7>9[8] AUG 7>9[7] SEP 7>9[7] OCT 7>9[7]
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