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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:23 am

Diversions for Feb. 8 and 9:

PDX
AS35 FLL B738
AS623 JFK B739
QX2023 SMF E175
AA305 MIA A321
UA2151 EWR A320
AS421 BNA B739
DL2806 ATL B739
AA2226 DFW B738
UA262 ORD A320
AS413 IAH B739
UA619 IAH A319
QX2047 SMF E175
NK622 LAS A320
QX2489 BZN Q400
AS124 FAI B739

EUG
AA1681 PHX A321
AS3491 FAT E175
AS2492 STS E175

Meanwhile, the DL 767 is scheduled for later today as DL9857 with an 11:30am departure to CDG.

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:19 pm

OAG 2/10/2019:
AS BZN-PDX JUL 2>1.5[2] (that's too bad)...
AS LAX-PDX JUN 7>8[8] JUL 7>8[8] AUG 7>8[7]
AS PDX-SEA JUL 19>18[25]
SY BNA-PDX AUG 0.4>0.6[0]
SY LAS-PDX AUG 0.4>0.6[0]
SY MSP-PDX AUG 0.6>1.0[1.4] (surprised that this is still only at one daily flight)...
SY PDX-SAT AUG 0.4>0.6[0]
SY PDX-SFO AUG 0.4>0.6[0]

UA LAX-RDM JUN 1.0>1.5[1.0]
*UA increases this flight almost immediately after AA increased it earlier last week. Quite interesting.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:38 am

AS 833 PDX-HNL diverted back to PDX earlier today. It now only just left PDX at 8:45 PM.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA ... /KPDX/KPDX
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA ... /KPDX/PHNL

Anyone know what happened?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:11 am

FA9295 wrote:
AS 833 PDX-HNL diverted back to PDX earlier today. It now only just left PDX at 8:45 PM.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA ... /KPDX/KPDX
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA ... /KPDX/PHNL

Anyone know what happened?


Can't say what happened for certain, but it looks like N409AS was the frame that diverted, and N402AS is on its way now

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n409as
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n402as
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:00 pm

I know I vent here a lot, but, once again, lack of Asia flight to a hub is hurting me...

Just had to book PDX-SEA-ICN-XXX, and HKG-SEA-PDX.
If Korean flew to ICN, I could have skipped a leg...

Also doing PDX-SEA-LHR in two weeks... no non-stop and want later afternoon flight.

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I know we can't have everything at PDX, but, year round PDX-LHR and PDX-ICN would solve a LOT of my first world problems :D
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:35 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
I know I vent here a lot, but, once again, lack of Asia flight to a hub is hurting me...

Just had to book PDX-SEA-ICN-XXX, and HKG-SEA-PDX.
If Korean flew to ICN, I could have skipped a leg...

Also doing PDX-SEA-LHR in two weeks... no non-stop and want later afternoon flight.

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I know we can't have everything at PDX, but, year round PDX-LHR and PDX-ICN would solve a LOT of my first world problems :D


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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:26 pm

AS737MAX wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
AS 833 PDX-HNL diverted back to PDX earlier today. It now only just left PDX at 8:45 PM.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA ... /KPDX/KPDX
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA ... /KPDX/PHNL

Anyone know what happened?


Can't say what happened for certain, but it looks like N409AS was the frame that diverted, and N402AS is on its way now

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n409as
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n402as

Thanks for that information. I heard somewhere that there was initially smoke reported inside the cabin so it returned to PDX and they had to fly in another plane from somewhere else...
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:27 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
I know I vent here a lot, but, once again, lack of Asia flight to a hub is hurting me...

Just had to book PDX-SEA-ICN-XXX, and HKG-SEA-PDX.
If Korean flew to ICN, I could have skipped a leg...

Also doing PDX-SEA-LHR in two weeks... no non-stop and want later afternoon flight.

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I know we can't have everything at PDX, but, year round PDX-LHR and PDX-ICN would solve a LOT of my first world problems :D


I don’t fly to Asia or Europe nearly as often as you, but with the business ties between Portland and many cities in Asia and Europe, plus the load factors on both NRT and AMS, it’s hard for me to wrap my head around any reasoning as to why there is not a year round connection to an additional Asian hub or to LHR. Daily summer flights to LHR are a step in the right direction, but how much proof does Delta need that the flight will work year round...even less than daily?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:28 pm

flyoregon wrote:
BlatantEcho wrote:
I know I vent here a lot, but, once again, lack of Asia flight to a hub is hurting me...

Just had to book PDX-SEA-ICN-XXX, and HKG-SEA-PDX.
If Korean flew to ICN, I could have skipped a leg...

Also doing PDX-SEA-LHR in two weeks... no non-stop and want later afternoon flight.

--
I know we can't have everything at PDX, but, year round PDX-LHR and PDX-ICN would solve a LOT of my first world problems :D


I don’t fly to Asia or Europe nearly as often as you, but with the business ties between Portland and many cities in Asia and Europe, plus the load factors on both NRT and AMS, it’s hard for me to wrap my head around any reasoning as to why there is not a year round connection to an additional Asian hub or to LHR. Daily summer flights to LHR are a step in the right direction, but how much proof does Delta need that the flight will work year round...even less than daily?

There are 12 more HND slots opening up soon, and there's a rumor that Delta will eventually request to transfer their entire NRT operation over to HND, including the possibility of PDX-HND.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:37 pm

If Delta ends up transferring it's current PDX-NRT flight over to HND, I suspect that JAL will then transfer their NRT-SEA flight over to HND, and then start NRT-PDX.

Having either ANA and/or JAL at PDX will open a lot more connecting opportunities into greater Asia.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:43 pm

FA9295 wrote:
If Delta ends up transferring it's current PDX-NRT flight over to HND, I suspect that JAL will then transfer their NRT-SEA flight over to HND, and then start NRT-PDX.

Having either ANA and/or JAL at PDX will open a lot more connecting opportunities into greater Asia.


I personally think ICN would be better, and I’d be concerned to have 2 carriers to TYO.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:48 pm

flyoregon wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
If Delta ends up transferring it's current PDX-NRT flight over to HND, I suspect that JAL will then transfer their NRT-SEA flight over to HND, and then start NRT-PDX.

Having either ANA and/or JAL at PDX will open a lot more connecting opportunities into greater Asia.


I personally think ICN would be better, and I’d be concerned to have 2 carriers to TYO.

Agreed. It just seems like if PDX-ICN was sustainable, then it already would have started by now...

I wouldn't be too worried abut two carriers on PDX-TYO. It's a very strong O&D route, whereas PDX-HND would be used by the local business traffic on both ends of the route, while PDX-NRT would be used for connecting to other parts of Asia. With that being said though, PDX-ICN would probably work just as well for connecting traffic...
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:38 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
I know I vent here a lot, but, once again, lack of Asia flight to a hub is hurting me...

Just had to book PDX-SEA-ICN-XXX, and HKG-SEA-PDX.
If Korean flew to ICN, I could have skipped a leg...

Also doing PDX-SEA-LHR in two weeks... no non-stop and want later afternoon flight.

--
I know we can't have everything at PDX, but, year round PDX-LHR and PDX-ICN would solve a LOT of my first world problems :D


FA9295 wrote:
flyoregon wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
If Delta ends up transferring it's current PDX-NRT flight over to HND, I suspect that JAL will then transfer their NRT-SEA flight over to HND, and then start NRT-PDX.

Having either ANA and/or JAL at PDX will open a lot more connecting opportunities into greater Asia.


I personally think ICN would be better, and I’d be concerned to have 2 carriers to TYO.

Agreed. It just seems like if PDX-ICN was sustainable, then it already would have started by now...

I wouldn't be too worried abut two carriers on PDX-TYO. It's a very strong O&D route, whereas PDX-HND would be used by the local business traffic on both ends of the route, while PDX-NRT would be used for connecting to other parts of Asia. With that being said though, PDX-ICN would probably work just as well for connecting traffic...


Connecting through Seattle for anything is not ideal. My future travels connect me there also, but that's because I choose to fly Delta. If the rumors were true about Delta moving their ops to HND, do you think they will keep their Asia flights such as MNL? Having two TYO flights does worry me a bit, especially the Delta one if they keep it because of the limited feed Delta has at PDX. But who knows...
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:12 am

yes, connecting in SEA is a bear.... The airport is just overcrowded and I worry about delays constantly.

I connected to Frankfurt last month via SFO, and that was surprisingly smooth. SEA cuts off some travel time, but, I'd still rather fly via PDX.

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PDX-ICN solves all problems. It would be like PDX-AMS, which generally gets me anywhere in Europe. perfect.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:27 am

BlatantEcho wrote:
yes, connecting in SEA is a bear.... The airport is just overcrowded and I worry about delays constantly.

I connected to Frankfurt last month via SFO, and that was surprisingly smooth. SEA cuts off some travel time, but, I'd still rather fly via PDX.

I frequently connect at LAX on Delta. Most of the time it's surprisingly smooth. But since I mainly fly Delta, I'm fairly used to connecting at SEA, but I do actively avoid it if I can...

Some word of advice if you ever need to connect at LAX; don't fly AA into the remote AA Eagle terminal! I needed to get to Miami, and I wanted to connect via ATL, but I was on a tough schedule and needed the flight to be a red-eye, and there were no PDX-ATL red-eyes on that day (it was a Saturday, and there are generally fewer nonstop options available on Saturdays)--so I instead flew PDX-LAX-MIA on AA (with the LAX-MIA flight being the red-eye instead of PDX-ATL, with an early morning ATL-MIA flight).

The plane had to wait for quite a while on the taxiway because our gate was being used up. Not to mention that you also have to take the shuttle bus from the remote terminal to the main terminal, which also eats up a lot of time. Luckily I made my flight, but it was pretty darn close. On the way back to PDX from MIA, I connected through DFW, which was very smooth.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:34 am

FA9295 wrote:
flyoregon wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
If Delta ends up transferring it's current PDX-NRT flight over to HND, I suspect that JAL will then transfer their NRT-SEA flight over to HND, and then start NRT-PDX.

Having either ANA and/or JAL at PDX will open a lot more connecting opportunities into greater Asia.


I personally think ICN would be better, and I’d be concerned to have 2 carriers to TYO.

Agreed. It just seems like if PDX-ICN was sustainable, then it already would have started by now...

I wouldn't be too worried abut two carriers on PDX-TYO. It's a very strong O&D route, whereas PDX-HND would be used by the local business traffic on both ends of the route, while PDX-NRT would be used for connecting to other parts of Asia. With that being said though, PDX-ICN would probably work just as well for connecting traffic...


PDX-ICN probably IS sustainable, but DL isn't going to start that and risk cannibalizing PDX-NRT, and they sure wouldn't want KE to operate ICN-PDX, either.

Once the dust settles on these 12 HND slots, we'll know more about how the PDX-TYO market will play out. There's a separate thread on this very topic, and from reading in there, the decision is coming shortly. DL will likely be the big winner on these 12 slots, given UA and AA have JV partners in Japan, whereas DL does not. I would put the odds of PDX-HND at better than 75% at this point.

The other dynamic to think about is what happens in SEA. Assuming DL moves SEA-NRT to HND, then NH and JL will also want to move their NRT-SEA flights to HND to compete. JL is returning to SEA for the first time in some 20 years, so I don't think they would quickly add PDX right after, but possibly within a year or two, with a 787.

SEA is becoming tougher and tougher to connect through, and as someone whose home airport is PSC, I much rather prefer flying through SLC these days. I did transit through SEA last Fall to NRT, and the return trip arrived about two hours before the large bank of flights, so it was a breeze and took little time at all.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:29 am

FA9295 wrote:
Some word of advice if you ever need to connect at LAX; don't fly AA into the remote AA Eagle terminal! I needed to get to Miami, and I wanted to connect via ATL, but I was on a tough schedule and needed the flight to be a red-eye, and there were no PDX-ATL red-eyes on that day (it was a Saturday, and there are generally fewer nonstop options available on Saturdays)--so I instead flew PDX-LAX-MIA on AA (with the LAX-MIA flight being the red-eye instead of PDX-ATL, with an early morning ATL-MIA flight).


Couldn't agree more... a year or two ago I flew EUG-LAX and the time from touchdown to when I actually set foot in the main terminal was longer than the flight, between taxiing forever and waiting for the god-awful bus. Connecting in SEA isn't great either, but hilariously, EUG-SEA-LAX is still better than the nonstop.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:29 am

I hope the PoP is talking with WestJet about expanding more in Portland. I’d like to see them run Air Canada and their overpriced, paltry service out of here.
Major airports with no PDX nonstops: MIA, FLL, TPA, IND, MSY, CLE, CVG, PIT, RDU, CMH
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:02 am

Speaking of Air Canada, PDX-YYZ is showing up in November and December now. I checked that flight not terribly long ago and before it just went to October. Possibly going year round, but likely just a placeholder spot for now...

Having PDX-YYZ operating year-round would open up some more connections to Europe. I wonder if they'll use the A220 on this route in the future.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:49 pm

^^^
I did PDX-YVR-PDX. Something like 13 of the people on the flight were connecting to YVR-FRA
I think Air Canada pulls a lot of pax from here and sends them around the world.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:56 pm

QUESTION: So, I was wondering myself, and after this summer, I'll have flown about 70% of the non-stops out of Portland.

I'm missing:
BUR, ONT, LGB, PSP, TUS, EUG, MED, RDM, BIL, YYC, HOU, YYZ, PHL, KOA, HNL, SJD & GDL

The rest I've flown, usually more than once.

Anyone flown them all???
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:36 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
^^^
I did PDX-YVR-PDX. Something like 13 of the people on the flight were connecting to YVR-FRA
I think Air Canada pulls a lot of pax from here and sends them around the world.


This might be a newbie question, but bear with me here. If those folks are utilizing YVR as their connection point, does their end point go in the stats of daily passenger to the destination from PDX? Say if someone was doing PDX-YVR-FRA, does that count as daily passengers going to FRA from PDX? Stats for airlines to measure demand for that route?

Thanks!
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:17 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
QUESTION: So, I was wondering myself, and after this summer, I'll have flown about 70% of the non-stops out of Portland.

I'm missing:
BUR, ONT, LGB, PSP, TUS, EUG, MED, RDM, BIL, YYC, HOU, YYZ, PHL, KOA, HNL, SJD & GDL

The rest I've flown, usually more than once.

Anyone flown them all???


Was actually just thinking about this too. I’ve flown nonstop to: SNA, BUR, HNL, SFO, SEA, LGB, SAN, LAX, OAK, DCA, SJC, LAS, BOS, YVR, DEN, ORD, DFW.

Booked: YYC, SMF, KEF, PHX, FRA.

Planning on PAE too. MCI very TBD.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:30 pm

AS BOI-PDX SEP 8>7[7] OCT 8>7[7]
AS BUR-PDX SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
AS OGG-PDX SEP 1.4>1.0[1.4] OCT 1.4>2[1.4]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 9>7[7] OCT 9>7[7]
NK LAS-PDX SEP 0.4>3[3] NOV 0>1.2[2]


Not the best weekly report for PDX..............
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:14 pm

G4 AZA-EUG OCT 0>0.4[0.3]
G4 EUG-OAK AUG 0.2>0.4[0.4] SEP 0>0.3[0.4] OCT 0>0.4[0.3]
NK LAS-PDX SEP 0.4>3[3] NOV 0>1.2[2]

Not particularly spectacular either
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:00 pm

lhpdx wrote:
AS BOI-PDX SEP 8>7[7] OCT 8>7[7]
AS BUR-PDX SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
AS OGG-PDX SEP 1.4>1.0[1.4] OCT 1.4>2[1.4]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 9>7[7] OCT 9>7[7]
NK LAS-PDX SEP 0.4>3[3] NOV 0>1.2[2]


Not the best weekly report for PDX..............

Some interesting things to point out:

AS BOI-PDX SEP 8>7[7] OCT 8>7[7]
- 3 of 7 of these are now on E75s. Previously only 2 were, IIRC.
AS BUR-PDX SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
- This one is going from 3 E75s to 2 mainline jets (one A320, one 739).
AS OGG-PDX SEP 1.4>1.0[1.4] OCT 1.4>2[1.4]
- This is the beginning of Portland's slower season to Hawaii, then it ramps back up through the fall and winter--as this schedule change seems to indicate.
AS PDX-SFO SEP 9>7[7] OCT 9>7[7]
- Didn't AS just increase this a week or two ago? I remember 2 E75s were added in a previous schedule update with the rest of them being A320s/737s. The two E75 flights are now gone and it's just the mainline jets now. Perhaps they found a better place for those E75s within their route network.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:10 am

lhpdx wrote:
AS BOI-PDX SEP 8>7[7] OCT 8>7[7]
AS BUR-PDX SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
AS OGG-PDX SEP 1.4>1.0[1.4] OCT 1.4>2[1.4]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 9>7[7] OCT 9>7[7]
NK LAS-PDX SEP 0.4>3[3] NOV 0>1.2[2]


Not the best weekly report for PDX..............


lhpdx, Thank you for taking over this task from me when I asked you to, I had gotten so sick & was hospitalized for such a long time & our friends here didn’t know what was going on.

I appreciate your efforts in keeping this going for us here. I know it’s not a lot, but the OAG thread broken down for us in Oregon is nice, with the lack of excessive commentary. Thanks for keeping our long standing tradition alive & carrying the torch, as it was passed to me years ago.
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AA AC AQ BD BN CO CS DL EA EZ HA HG HP KL KN MP MW NK NW OZ PA PS QX RC RH RW SA TG TW UA US VS WA WN WP YS 8M
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:18 am

RWA380 wrote:
lhpdx wrote:
AS BOI-PDX SEP 8>7[7] OCT 8>7[7]
AS BUR-PDX SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
AS OGG-PDX SEP 1.4>1.0[1.4] OCT 1.4>2[1.4]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 9>7[7] OCT 9>7[7]
NK LAS-PDX SEP 0.4>3[3] NOV 0>1.2[2]


Not the best weekly report for PDX..............


lhpdx, Thank you for taking over this task from me when I asked you to, I had gotten so sick & was hospitalized for such a long time & our friends here didn’t know what was going on.

I appreciate your efforts in keeping this going for us here. I know it’s not a lot, but the OAG thread broken down for us in Oregon is nice, with the lack of excessive commentary. Thanks for keeping our long standing tradition alive & carrying the torch, as it was passed to me years ago.


I appreciate the kind words RWA380 and I hope and pray that your health will continue to improve....
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:34 am

lhpdx wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
lhpdx wrote:
AS BOI-PDX SEP 8>7[7] OCT 8>7[7]
AS BUR-PDX SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
AS OGG-PDX SEP 1.4>1.0[1.4] OCT 1.4>2[1.4]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 9>7[7] OCT 9>7[7]
NK LAS-PDX SEP 0.4>3[3] NOV 0>1.2[2]


Not the best weekly report for PDX..............


lhpdx, Thank you for taking over this task from me when I asked you to, I had gotten so sick & was hospitalized for such a long time & our friends here didn’t know what was going on.

I appreciate your efforts in keeping this going for us here. I know it’s not a lot, but the OAG thread broken down for us in Oregon is nice, with the lack of excessive commentary. Thanks for keeping our long standing tradition alive & carrying the torch, as it was passed to me years ago.


I appreciate the kind words RWA380 and I hope and pray that your health will continue to improve....


Totally appreciate the nice words, few people know the story. But I am way better, most days I can enjoy my day & now I am online more. Thanks I miss the fun we used to have deliberating thoughts & topics. Oregon is prime for some expansion & I think the surprises will not be from the usual suspects.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:17 am

RWA380 wrote:
lhpdx wrote:
RWA380 wrote:

lhpdx, Thank you for taking over this task from me when I asked you to, I had gotten so sick & was hospitalized for such a long time & our friends here didn’t know what was going on.

I appreciate your efforts in keeping this going for us here. I know it’s not a lot, but the OAG thread broken down for us in Oregon is nice, with the lack of excessive commentary. Thanks for keeping our long standing tradition alive & carrying the torch, as it was passed to me years ago.


I appreciate the kind words RWA380 and I hope and pray that your health will continue to improve....


Totally appreciate the nice words, few people know the story. But I am way better, most days I can enjoy my day & now I am online more. Thanks I miss the fun we used to have deliberating thoughts & topics. Oregon is prime for some expansion & I think the surprises will not be from the usual suspects.


RWA', I hope all is well and get you back to discussing Oregon here with us!

I look forward to the future when airlines are able to maintain year-round schedules, and not worry about trying out fleeting seasonal destinations. I couldn't have guessed that SY would build up like they did, but AS adds and trims, and WN seems content with the network from PDX that they do.

I was reading through the old Oregon threads, and we're still waiting on BA to LHR as well as the possibility of service to ICN. When the 787 was introduced, it was advertised that the 787 would be perfect for smaller cities, without having to connect through a hub. Obviously, LHR-PDX on BA seems like it would fit the bill, but the cities where BA started off with probably could have supported service without the 787 (see AUS being up-gauged to a 744 at times). Nowadays too, we have year-round AMS in addition to summer-seasonal KEF, LHR, and FRA. I'd love to be wrong, but i'd bet we see a new Asian destination before a 5th unique European one/LHR on BA.

'MAX
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:44 pm

PDX-ABQ, in addition to PDX-BUR that's already been mentioned, are switching to mainline this summer. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-17feb19/
    Ironically, I don't work for OO anymore, and I'm not in SLC anymore. PDX based, aviation enthusiast, non-aviation worker.
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:16 am

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I know I vent here a lot, but, once again, lack of Asia flight to a hub is hurting me...

Just had to book PDX-SEA-ICN-XXX, and HKG-SEA-PDX.
If Korean flew to ICN, I could have skipped a leg...

Also doing PDX-SEA-LHR in two weeks... no non-stop and want later afternoon flight.

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I know we can't have everything at PDX, but, year round PDX-LHR and PDX-ICN would solve a LOT of my first world problems :D


I too repeatedly say and hope for a PDX-CDG connection, mainly for onward connections. Just recently booked PDX-AMS-India-AMS-PDX even though there were few other options.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:44 am

ooslc wrote:
PDX-ABQ, in addition to PDX-BUR that's already been mentioned, are switching to mainline this summer. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-17feb19/

PDX-ABQ too...? That's good news. Perhaps they're benefiting from WN exiting that route.

A bit of an unusual time to switch over to mainline (27 August), as the summer season winds down. I initially thought that ABQ did better in the winter, but with the slight cutbacks this year on that route, I guess I was wrong there. (although I'm not sure if that's due to demand or outstanding pilot/fleet issues).

I honestly thought that PDX-MSP would go over to mainline long before PDX-ABQ, even with more competition from DL and SY. I saw that SAN-MSP will be on the A320 shortly, so it may be only a matter of time before the same happens for PDX-MSP...
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:51 am

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RWA380 wrote:
lhpdx wrote:

I appreciate the kind words RWA380 and I hope and pray that your health will continue to improve....


Totally appreciate the nice words, few people know the story. But I am way better, most days I can enjoy my day & now I am online more. Thanks I miss the fun we used to have deliberating thoughts & topics. Oregon is prime for some expansion & I think the surprises will not be from the usual suspects.


RWA', I hope all is well and get you back to discussing Oregon here with us!

I look forward to the future when airlines are able to maintain year-round schedules, and not worry about trying out fleeting seasonal destinations. I couldn't have guessed that SY would build up like they did, but AS adds and trims, and WN seems content with the network from PDX that they do.

I was reading through the old Oregon threads, and we're still waiting on BA to LHR as well as the possibility of service to ICN. When the 787 was introduced, it was advertised that the 787 would be perfect for smaller cities, without having to connect through a hub. Obviously, LHR-PDX on BA seems like it would fit the bill, but the cities where BA started off with probably could have supported service without the 787 (see AUS being up-gauged to a 744 at times). Nowadays too, we have year-round AMS in addition to summer-seasonal KEF, LHR, and FRA. I'd love to be wrong, but i'd bet we see a new Asian destination before a 5th unique European one/LHR on BA.

'MAX


Thank you for your kind words, yeah many of us have had great discussions over the many years that have passed. For anyone who cares, I went through a week or two in the hospital, it was about a day away from killing me, but thanks to great medical professionals I have mended & I am feeling myself. I thought I needed to publicly thank lhpdx for taking on the task you all know I had been doing, after it was gifted to me. Not to garner sympathy, I honestly don’t enjoy the spotlight. I will take fortune vs fame ANYDAY! I do appreciate all of the kind support I have been given here & via PM, I never knew how many people truly care. Thank you once again. I am humbled & grateful.

You are correct, I too though BA would jump on PDX but we got DL to do it for us. If AS were to ever be a Oneworld connect carrier, then I could see BA or HU here. I still think whomever jumps on PDX-PEK will end up with a profitable service in less than 2 years. Cargo & onward passengers connections on both ends. AS now has their code on QF flights, how about SEA/PDX-PEK on AS or SEA/PDX-LHR on AS? Until AS did it with QF I never considered the options, now I am realizing AS can be on every continent if their agreement is set up properly, let us proceed AAG.
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:47 am

RWA380, I am saddened to hear of your health challenges, but hopeful that you are now on the mend! You're contributions are appreciated, sending positive vibes your way.

And I have some news which will surely make you and others happy.

On Allegiant's most recent conference call, they were asked about future service to Salem and Hillsboro.

Salem was given the thumbs down due to runway length, but Hillsboro is a solid "maybe" which is G4-speak for "We're considering it"

Taken together with their previous conference call, we could very well see G4 return to RDM and begin service to HIO in the coming years. Exciting possibility!
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:14 pm

RWA - Don't die on us.

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Salem was given the thumbs down due to runway length, but Hillsboro is a solid "maybe" which is G4-speak for "We're considering it"


HIO wont happen, unless the POP is going to certify the airport for passenger ops with proper security fencing, a badging program, a proper terminal and parking facilities among other things, this just isn't feasible.

The (limited) public backlash about the 3rd runway and the continuous (limited) backlash about Hillsboro Aero Acadamy's flight patterns can be used as a reference for how the fight will go if Scheduled 121 service was going to be added.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:10 pm

Aloha717200 wrote:
RWA380, I am saddened to hear of your health challenges, but hopeful that you are now on the mend! You're contributions are appreciated, sending positive vibes your way.

And I have some news which will surely make you and others happy.

On Allegiant's most recent conference call, they were asked about future service to Salem and Hillsboro.

Salem was given the thumbs down due to runway length, but Hillsboro is a solid "maybe" which is G4-speak for "We're considering it"

Taken together with their previous conference call, we could very well see G4 return to RDM and begin service to HIO in the coming years. Exciting possibility!


Is G4 paying for a terminal because the Port certainly won’t for 1-2x weekly service. Plus, the HIO demographic doesn’t really fit the G4 bill.

Runway length at Salem shouldn’t be a concern. Fully loaded military charters have landed and taken off at SLE many times, so a G4 A319 shouldn’t have trouble to LAS or OAK or wherever.

Bottom line, G4 at RDM, YES. HIO, I don’t see it happening. SLE...they’re missing an opportunity.
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:28 pm

Just a quick note, both of Alaska's PDX-ONT flights will also transition from E75s to mainline 737s starting August 27th: https://www.google.com/flights#flt=PDX. ... 1;t:f;tt:o
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:40 pm

RWA380 wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:
RWA380 wrote:

Totally appreciate the nice words, few people know the story. But I am way better, most days I can enjoy my day & now I am online more. Thanks I miss the fun we used to have deliberating thoughts & topics. Oregon is prime for some expansion & I think the surprises will not be from the usual suspects.


RWA', I hope all is well and get you back to discussing Oregon here with us!

I look forward to the future when airlines are able to maintain year-round schedules, and not worry about trying out fleeting seasonal destinations. I couldn't have guessed that SY would build up like they did, but AS adds and trims, and WN seems content with the network from PDX that they do.

I was reading through the old Oregon threads, and we're still waiting on BA to LHR as well as the possibility of service to ICN. When the 787 was introduced, it was advertised that the 787 would be perfect for smaller cities, without having to connect through a hub. Obviously, LHR-PDX on BA seems like it would fit the bill, but the cities where BA started off with probably could have supported service without the 787 (see AUS being up-gauged to a 744 at times). Nowadays too, we have year-round AMS in addition to summer-seasonal KEF, LHR, and FRA. I'd love to be wrong, but i'd bet we see a new Asian destination before a 5th unique European one/LHR on BA.

'MAX


Thank you for your kind words, yeah many of us have had great discussions over the many years that have passed. For anyone who cares, I went through a week or two in the hospital, it was about a day away from killing me, but thanks to great medical professionals I have mended & I am feeling myself. I thought I needed to publicly thank lhpdx for taking on the task you all know I had been doing, after it was gifted to me. Not to garner sympathy, I honestly don’t enjoy the spotlight. I will take fortune vs fame ANYDAY! I do appreciate all of the kind support I have been given here & via PM, I never knew how many people truly care. Thank you once again. I am humbled & grateful.

You are correct, I too though BA would jump on PDX but we got DL to do it for us. If AS were to ever be a Oneworld connect carrier, then I could see BA or HU here. I still think whomever jumps on PDX-PEK will end up with a profitable service in less than 2 years. Cargo & onward passengers connections on both ends. AS now has their code on QF flights, how about SEA/PDX-PEK on AS or SEA/PDX-LHR on AS? Until AS did it with QF I never considered the options, now I am realizing AS can be on every continent if their agreement is set up properly, let us proceed AAG.


Was definitely only a matter of time before AS started selling codeshare partner flights. Surprised it wasn't sooner, and LAX-SYD is omitted too. Some in that thread were complaining that prices were higher on the AS side of things, but for all the dates I looked at, prices were cheaper on AS. I know QF wasn't quoting in AUD either because I was on their US portal.

On another note, I was downtown last night, and saw this billboard at Broadway/Madison. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] ... ed-public/ Clearly doing a lot to market the flight.
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:17 pm

AS737MAX wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:

RWA', I hope all is well and get you back to discussing Oregon here with us!

I look forward to the future when airlines are able to maintain year-round schedules, and not worry about trying out fleeting seasonal destinations. I couldn't have guessed that SY would build up like they did, but AS adds and trims, and WN seems content with the network from PDX that they do.

I was reading through the old Oregon threads, and we're still waiting on BA to LHR as well as the possibility of service to ICN. When the 787 was introduced, it was advertised that the 787 would be perfect for smaller cities, without having to connect through a hub. Obviously, LHR-PDX on BA seems like it would fit the bill, but the cities where BA started off with probably could have supported service without the 787 (see AUS being up-gauged to a 744 at times). Nowadays too, we have year-round AMS in addition to summer-seasonal KEF, LHR, and FRA. I'd love to be wrong, but i'd bet we see a new Asian destination before a 5th unique European one/LHR on BA.

'MAX


Thank you for your kind words, yeah many of us have had great discussions over the many years that have passed. For anyone who cares, I went through a week or two in the hospital, it was about a day away from killing me, but thanks to great medical professionals I have mended & I am feeling myself. I thought I needed to publicly thank lhpdx for taking on the task you all know I had been doing, after it was gifted to me. Not to garner sympathy, I honestly don’t enjoy the spotlight. I will take fortune vs fame ANYDAY! I do appreciate all of the kind support I have been given here & via PM, I never knew how many people truly care. Thank you once again. I am humbled & grateful.

You are correct, I too though BA would jump on PDX but we got DL to do it for us. If AS were to ever be a Oneworld connect carrier, then I could see BA or HU here. I still think whomever jumps on PDX-PEK will end up with a profitable service in less than 2 years. Cargo & onward passengers connections on both ends. AS now has their code on QF flights, how about SEA/PDX-PEK on AS or SEA/PDX-LHR on AS? Until AS did it with QF I never considered the options, now I am realizing AS can be on every continent if their agreement is set up properly, let us proceed AAG.


Was definitely only a matter of time before AS started selling codeshare partner flights. Surprised it wasn't sooner, and LAX-SYD is omitted too. Some in that thread were complaining that prices were higher on the AS side of things, but for all the dates I looked at, prices were cheaper on AS. I know QF wasn't quoting in AUD either because I was on their US portal.

On another note, I was downtown last night, and saw this billboard at Broadway/Madison. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] ... ed-public/ Clearly doing a lot to market the flight.


Seeing a lot of Delta ads around town and more and more Volaris ads seem to be popping up
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:06 am

Aloha717200 wrote:
RWA380, I am saddened to hear of your health challenges, but hopeful that you are now on the mend! You're contributions are appreciated, sending positive vibes your way.

And I have some news which will surely make you and others happy.

On Allegiant's most recent conference call, they were asked about future service to Salem and Hillsboro.

Salem was given the thumbs down due to runway length, but Hillsboro is a solid "maybe" which is G4-speak for "We're considering it"

Taken together with their previous conference call, we could very well see G4 return to RDM and begin service to HIO in the coming years. Exciting possibility!


Thank you again for all the support I have received, Things are definitely about normal. Positive vibes are appreciated.

I do think RDM should be on G4’s short list for restart. I can remember their old mad dogs taking off & the entire town heard it. I bet the Airbus will be a good fit. The economy over there is booming again & tons of new construction. Both UA & AA stepped up their game at Roberts Field, even AS has one mainline 738 r/t from SEA.

I would be surprised if HIO & it’s demographic, would support a commercial service to Vegas or Phoenix, I live within five miles of HIO & most of my neighbors in nearby Bethany may not, but maybe Hillsboro, Forest Grove, Banks, Cornelius even Yamhill county. SLE will always struggle with the gravity of PDX & maybe Marion County is ready for a less than daily service to Las Vegas.

United used to regularly fly 737-200’s into McNary Field well into the early 1980’s, I am sure a G4 A-319 would be just fine for a 90 minute flight to McCarren.

twincommander wrote:
RWA - Don't die on us.

Aloha717200 wrote:
Salem was given the thumbs down due to runway length, but Hillsboro is a solid "maybe" which is G4-speak for "We're considering it"


HIO wont happen, unless the POP is going to certify the airport for passenger ops with proper security fencing, a badging program, a proper terminal and parking facilities among other things, this just isn't feasible.

The (limited) public backlash about the 3rd runway and the continuous (limited) backlash about Hillsboro Aero Acadamy's flight patterns can be used as a reference for how the fight will go if Scheduled 121 service was going to be added.


Thanks, I am just grateful for the kind support of all y’all. I had not realized I had enhanced your experience like y’all do mine. I am blessed. I have always thought that the PoP wanted to keep HIO private, I live nearby & it is a busy place. The only things I hear leaving are the bigger private jets, like Nike’s fleet. I personally would be fine if G4 came to HIO, QX has floated the idea so many times it’s flights to SEA & never jumped. Could HIO be our local PAE?

I am not sure where a terminal could be placed that would not impact the local roads to an extent at flight times. Is there a way to bypass to Hwy 26? I know it’s just off 26, but the current brand new road doesn’t seem adequate for the inflated traffic at peak times.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:23 am

flyoregon wrote:
Aloha717200 wrote:
RWA380, I am saddened to hear of your health challenges, but hopeful that you are now on the mend! You're contributions are appreciated, sending positive vibes your way.

And I have some news which will surely make you and others happy.

On Allegiant's most recent conference call, they were asked about future service to Salem and Hillsboro.

Salem was given the thumbs down due to runway length, but Hillsboro is a solid "maybe" which is G4-speak for "We're considering it"

Taken together with their previous conference call, we could very well see G4 return to RDM and begin service to HIO in the coming years. Exciting possibility!


Is G4 paying for a terminal because the Port certainly won’t for 1-2x weekly service. Plus, the HIO demographic doesn’t really fit the G4 bill.

Runway length at Salem shouldn’t be a concern. Fully loaded military charters have landed and taken off at SLE many times, so a G4 A319 shouldn’t have trouble to LAS or OAK or wherever.

Bottom line, G4 at RDM, YES. HIO, I don’t see it happening. SLE...they’re missing an opportunity.



I hate to disagree, but G4 may know something many others do not.

The POP has selected a preferred alternative for the HIO master plan that includes a new, realigned terminal building with the potential to accommodate scheduled air service in the future. You can see this outlined here on pages 23-24:

https://popcdn.azureedge.net/pdfs/PAC_9 ... tation.pdf

In fact there is quite a lot of exciting development planned for HIO. G4 may simply be keeping an eye on it and willing to consider service once that development is complete. :)

As for SLE, I'm not sure why they fell the runway lengths are too short. Perhaps they have a preference for runways in excess of 6,000 feet? Maybe their experience at BLI is a factor? I know they struggle with IROPS there when weather rolls in.

I do think the biggest hurdle to HIO will always be the NIMBYs who would just as soon see air travel disappear right up until complaining about the commute to PDX!

As to the G4 demographic, you'd also be surprised that a significant chunk of G4 clientele earn over 100k per year. While there is an illusion that G4 appeals only to the low income crowd, pax analysis has shown otherwise. :)
 
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:17 am

Aloha717200 wrote:
flyoregon wrote:
Aloha717200 wrote:
RWA380, I am saddened to hear of your health challenges, but hopeful that you are now on the mend! You're contributions are appreciated, sending positive vibes your way.

And I have some news which will surely make you and others happy.

On Allegiant's most recent conference call, they were asked about future service to Salem and Hillsboro.

Salem was given the thumbs down due to runway length, but Hillsboro is a solid "maybe" which is G4-speak for "We're considering it"

Taken together with their previous conference call, we could very well see G4 return to RDM and begin service to HIO in the coming years. Exciting possibility!


Is G4 paying for a terminal because the Port certainly won’t for 1-2x weekly service. Plus, the HIO demographic doesn’t really fit the G4 bill.

Runway length at Salem shouldn’t be a concern. Fully loaded military charters have landed and taken off at SLE many times, so a G4 A319 shouldn’t have trouble to LAS or OAK or wherever.

Bottom line, G4 at RDM, YES. HIO, I don’t see it happening. SLE...they’re missing an opportunity.



I hate to disagree, but G4 may know something many others do not.

The POP has selected a preferred alternative for the HIO master plan that includes a new, realigned terminal building with the potential to accommodate scheduled air service in the future. You can see this outlined here on pages 23-24:

https://popcdn.azureedge.net/pdfs/PAC_9 ... tation.pdf

In fact there is quite a lot of exciting development planned for HIO. G4 may simply be keeping an eye on it and willing to consider service once that development is complete. :)

As for SLE, I'm not sure why they fell the runway lengths are too short. Perhaps they have a preference for runways in excess of 6,000 feet? Maybe their experience at BLI is a factor? I know they struggle with IROPS there when weather rolls in.

I do think the biggest hurdle to HIO will always be the NIMBYs who would just as soon see air travel disappear right up until complaining about the commute to PDX!

As to the G4 demographic, you'd also be surprised that a significant chunk of G4 clientele earn over 100k per year. While there is an illusion that G4 appeals only to the low income crowd, pax analysis has shown otherwise. :)


I bet the clients are there, however if HIO were to expand into a commercial facility, there would be a large business interest as this is where Nike, Intel (who already flies SJC & SMF on their own airline) would have to provide service for the tech industry. In the past that conversation had usually been
about QX flying to SEA 4-5 times a day. But that was well before the VX acquisition. These HIO commercial discussions have been going on decades.

IIRC, there was a commuter airline flying to MFR, OTH & BFI, Far West Airlines. Last & only time HIO had commercial service that I know of, but HIO is bigger all these years later, much bigger.

Now with the emphasis on California for AAG, I could see in the future a PAE style operation, with a few airlines serving important markets. This is where I am skeptical that G4 would be running the routes that people really travel out of that area for. I do bet that G4 does it’s homework & like AS they are looking for any good reasonable expansion cities. It’s an investment on G4’s part, then I hope it works for them, if they hey do go for it.
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:17 pm

Was supposed to have flown PDX-PAE-PDX to see a friend, but got rebooked for free through SEA and wasn't about to pass that up. Noticed that half of B6's ticket counters had been removed, right across from AS. Not sure what that's about.

Later too, it turned out that Kate Brown was on my flight! She was a couple rows behind me, but her being there explained the two people with earwigs. Sea-tac is real rough right now - glad more than ever that PDX is not so bad. Lots of construction in, on, and around the satellites.

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:25 pm

Not an Oregonian here but did attend LOHS in 1974


Just found this article while browsing for current Boutique Air doings. Possible return of air service to Newport. Boutique has lost some recent EAS contracts; may have to try state-run subsidies?!i

https://newportnewstimes.com/article/ne ... -in-flight
 
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:02 pm

RJNUT wrote:
Not an Oregonian here but did attend LOHS in 1974


Just found this article while browsing for current Boutique Air doings. Possible return of air service to Newport. Boutique has lost some recent EAS contracts; may have to try state-run subsidies?!i

https://newportnewstimes.com/article/ne ... -in-flight


My sister started at LOHS in 1974. Small world. I had never heard of this potential new service. Thanks for the share, cool if it happens.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:35 am

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Intel (who already flies SJC & SMF on their own)


Intel Air Shuttle also has scheduled flights multiple times a week IWA-HIO-IWA and SJC-HIO-SJC. Two are en route to HIO now, https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HGT3662
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HGT3225

https://jcai.dk/2016/03/gmj-air-shuttle ... fleet-fsx/
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:45 am

jbpdx wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
Intel (who already flies SJC & SMF on their own)


Intel Air Shuttle also has scheduled flights multiple times a week IWA-HIO-IWA and SJC-HIO-SJC. Two are en route to HIO now, https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HGT3662
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HGT3225

https://jcai.dk/2016/03/gmj-air-shuttle ... fleet-fsx/

Yeah, I think the routes from HIO right now are just to IWA and SJC. Several times a day in fact:

SJC: https://flightaware.com/live/findflight ... ation=KSJC
- Yesterday was at 6x, and today was at 4x.

IWA: https://flightaware.com/live/findflight ... ation=KIWA
- Yesterday and today were both at 2x daily.

But I do recall them regularly flying to SMF (or another Sacramento airport) in the past...
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:07 am

Oh, and good luck trying to get PDX-YYZ year-round now... :rotfl:

https://www.oregonlive.com/trending/201 ... local.html
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/ ... a30b472e25

Obviously I'm only joking, but it's quite unfortunate that this kind of stigma about Portland still exists today... :?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:16 am

FA9295 wrote:
jbpdx wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
Intel (who already flies SJC & SMF on their own)


Intel Air Shuttle also has scheduled flights multiple times a week IWA-HIO-IWA and SJC-HIO-SJC. Two are en route to HIO now, https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HGT3662
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HGT3225

https://jcai.dk/2016/03/gmj-air-shuttle ... fleet-fsx/

Yeah, I think the routes from HIO right now are just to IWA and SJC. Several times a day in fact:

SJC: https://flightaware.com/live/findflight ... ation=KSJC
- Yesterday was at 6x, and today was at 4x.

IWA: https://flightaware.com/live/findflight ... ation=KIWA
- Yesterday and today were both at 2x daily.

But I do recall them regularly flying to SMF (or another Sacramento airport) in the past...


It use to be daily SJC, IWA, OLM, and MHR.
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