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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:00 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Further confirmation that some type of announcement is in the works with BA. http://www.flymsy.com/Files/CrossReference/1A/03-DirectorsSignedCCReport-March.pdf The airport director had a meeting with BA in late March. Likely to coordinate press announcements. Guessing we'll be hearing about capacity and/or frequency increases in the near future.


It's better than worrying if they were cancelling the service.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:30 pm

msyflyer wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
Further confirmation that some type of announcement is in the works with BA. http://www.flymsy.com/Files/CrossReference/1A/03-DirectorsSignedCCReport-March.pdf The airport director had a meeting with BA in late March. Likely to coordinate press announcements. Guessing we'll be hearing about capacity and/or frequency increases in the near future.


It's better than worrying if they were cancelling the service.


Agreed.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:26 am

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:47 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
msyflyer wrote:
It's better than worrying if they were cancelling the service.

Agreed.

Not that there's anything that would've lead someone to believe that that was in the cards.

They're going out nearly 90% full at SKY HIGH prices in all three cabins... can't imagine that they're anything but happy with the service.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:19 am

[quote="DJSNOLA"][/quote]

Wonder if we'll see the other private lots move up toward I-10 too.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:40 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
msyflyer wrote:
It's better than worrying if they were cancelling the service.

Agreed.

Not that there's anything that would've lead someone to believe that that was in the cards.

They're going out nearly 90% full at SKY HIGH prices in all three cabins... can't imagine that they're anything but happy with the service.


I agree. The prices are extremely high when compared to places like AUS or IAH. However, if you compare the prices to UA/DL/AA with a connection, it's pretty close to on the money. Sadly.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:06 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
DJSNOLA wrote:


Wonder if we'll see the other private lots move up toward I-10 too.



Id think so otherwise would be hard to compete
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:20 pm

Hearing LH rumors now from multiple people at the airport. Interesting. But perhaps not entirely surprising considering DE’s success.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:37 pm

Just wanted to let you guys know yesterday they must have started working on additional lanes for the loyola exit and the traffic was backed up onto the interstate halfway between loyola and williams heading west. Im hoping that when the additional turn lanes are added and the lane closure of course is over that should alleviate stress, but again theres no way they could have opened the new terminal in a couple weeks if they just started this work on that exit... would have been a traffic disaster..Not to mention theres no interstate signage yet for the new terminal put up yet... so its clear lots of reasons to delay the opening
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:29 pm

SunsetLimited wrote:
Hearing LH rumors now from multiple people at the airport. Interesting. But perhaps not entirely surprising considering DE’s success.


Another reason UA building the lounge - for Star Alliance maybe?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:47 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
First DL confirms its return to MSY-CUN, now UA is returning as well:
https://wayfarer.travel/united-airlines ... rn-summer/

WN is on the route, and isn't someone else doing it too?

Despite the relatively low loads seen, especially for the two Legacies... something seems to keep pulling them back. Oh well, happy!




I'm fairly certain it's that the aircraft are just 'sitting' around and it adds some 'flavor' to their route system. I just wish someone would increase frequency - that would help overall. The demand is there but not just on Saturday. It would be nice if UA or DL tried another resort for a season e.g. MBJ or say SJD. The beaches on the riviera maya are not that appealing of late.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:51 pm

braniff2hav wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
First DL confirms its return to MSY-CUN, now UA is returning as well:
https://wayfarer.travel/united-airlines ... rn-summer/

WN is on the route, and isn't someone else doing it too?

Despite the relatively low loads seen, especially for the two Legacies... something seems to keep pulling them back. Oh well, happy!




I'm fairly certain it's that the aircraft are just 'sitting' around and it adds some 'flavor' to their route system. I just wish someone would increase frequency - that would help overall. The demand is there but not just on Saturday. It would be nice if UA or DL tried another resort for a season e.g. MBJ or say SJD. The beaches on the riviera maya are not that appealing of late.



I dont understand this either... i would love increased freqquency otherwise saturdays are pretty useless... and you are right that mayan riviera is losing some appeal with increased crime.. surely they could do grand cayman , belize or bahamas (which does customs in the bahamas) ...
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:18 pm

Frankly I miss the old weekly MSY-RTB flight that TACA and before that SAHSA offered for many years. RTB is an amazing diving destination.

CUN was served daily by both CO and EA, up to 4X weekly on LR, and various frequencies on AM.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:10 pm

Given that Allegiant is planning to start scheduled leisure international service and there's been talk about them adding one-stop routings, I wonder if they might use MSY as a way to connect airports that either don't have quite enough demand or lack an FIS. Perhaps something like SDF or USA-MSY-CUN would be viable 2-3 weekly.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:11 pm

msycajun wrote:
Given that Allegiant is planning to start scheduled leisure international service and there's been talk about them adding one-stop routings, I wonder if they might use MSY as a way to connect airports that either don't have quite enough demand or lack an FIS. Perhaps something like SDF or USA-MSY-CUN would be viable 2-3 weekly.



that would be great.. msy is basically due north so would easily serve as a gateway for smaller airport to cancun as well as allow them access to NOLA too
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:29 pm

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Hearing LH rumors now from multiple people at the airport. Interesting. But perhaps not entirely surprising considering DE’s success.


How many time a week seasonally does DE fly to MSY?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:44 pm

msyflyer wrote:
I agree. The prices are extremely high when compared to places like AUS or IAH.

Which is something I've always found curious:
it's not uncommon for the (published) fares at MSY in J, to be as-high or even higher than the fares from AUS and SJC in **F**.... yet they still don't deem this route worthwhile for a 4class aircraft.

I'm guessing that there's either private-treaty on F fares at those locations; or (more likely) there's sufficient [email protected] for so many premium seats, that they officially offer F as a class of service, but mostly use it for op-ups on their full-C pax, and can still fill 40+ C seats after that at medium fares without encroaching upon W. Just my guess.




msyflyer wrote:
However, if you compare the prices to UA/DL/AA with a connection, it's pretty close to on the money. Sadly.

Typical though. Fares are priced at what the market will bare; and a nonstop is one of the few things all classes of service will frequently pay a premium for.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:46 pm

msycajun wrote:
Given that Allegiant is planning to start scheduled leisure international service and there's been talk about them adding one-stop routings, I wonder if they might use MSY as a way to connect airports that either don't have quite enough demand or lack an FIS. Perhaps something like SDF or USA-MSY-CUN would be viable 2-3 weekly.

Would be nice, were it not for G4 seemingly struggling so hard to make anything in MSY work. :(

Aren't they down to only a single yearround route, now?
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:53 pm

lhpdx wrote:
SunsetLimited wrote:
Hearing LH rumors now from multiple people at the airport. Interesting. But perhaps not entirely surprising considering DE’s success.


How many time a week seasonally does DE fly to MSY?


2x weekly.

As far as LH rumors, not totally far fetched given what happened in SAN and AUS. That said, I'll believe it when I see it. Let's officially get BA daily at a minimum first.

I think CVG and USA are year round for G4. From a geographic standpoint, it would make sense for us to a stopping point. We'll see what transpires.
 
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Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:40 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
and USA are year round for G4.

Pretty sure that one's still seasonal. When did it go year-round?


NolaMD88fan wrote:
From a geographic standpoint, it would make sense for us to a stopping point.

Was always hoping NK or F9 would take advantage of that.

NK has chosen MCO as their secondary LatAm/Caribbean gateway for now, so may be a while before they decide to build up a third.

F9 doesn't seem to have one.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:44 am

I was incorrect. CVG is the only one year round. Thought they flew USA in September., but they did not.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:47 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
lhpdx wrote:
SunsetLimited wrote:
Hearing LH rumors now from multiple people at the airport. Interesting. But perhaps not entirely surprising considering DE’s success.


How many time a week seasonally does DE fly to MSY?


2x weekly.

As far as LH rumors, not totally far fetched given what happened in SAN and AUS. That said, I'll believe it when I see it. Let's officially get BA daily at a minimum first.

I think CVG and USA are year round for G4. From a geographic standpoint, it would make sense for us to a stopping point. We'll see what transpires.



SkyTeam will really fall behind of the two other alliances have TATL service out of MSY and they don’t....
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:34 pm

If an airline wanted to take all of the current concourse D can that be rectified easily to allow for international gates or would c be the better terminal to take over
 
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Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:22 pm

Nola wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
lhpdx wrote:

How many time a week seasonally does DE fly to MSY?
SkyTeam will really fall behind of the two other alliances have TATL service out of MSY and they don’t....


There are ongoing discussions with AF and the local business community, so we'll see what comes of that.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:24 pm

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If an airline wanted to take all of the current concourse D can that be rectified easily to allow for international gates or would c be the better terminal to take over


I don't see that as a worthwhile investment when there are 4 international gates available for use in the new terminal. The new terminal has a projected capacity to handle 20 million pax, and we're no where near that level yet.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:36 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
I don't see that as a worthwhile investment when there are 4 international gates available for use in the new terminal. The new terminal has a projected capacity to handle 20 million pax, and we're no where near that level yet.

The new terminal has 5 international gates... A1-5. A6 is the only gate on A that doesn't connect to the sterile corridor.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:36 am

Kyoya wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
I don't see that as a worthwhile investment when there are 4 international gates available for use in the new terminal. The new terminal has a projected capacity to handle 20 million pax, and we're no where near that level yet.

The new terminal has 5 international gates... A1-5. A6 is the only gate on A that doesn't connect to the sterile corridor.


Even better.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:56 am

DJSNOLA wrote:
If an airline wanted to take all of the current concourse D can that be rectified easily to allow for international gates

No


DJSNOLA wrote:
or would c be the better terminal to take over

southside-C is getting demolished after the switchover, so it definitely wouldn't
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:05 am

DJSNOLA wrote:
If an airline wanted to take all of the current concourse D can that be rectified easily to allow for international gates or would c be the better terminal to take over


Why?
 
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Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:47 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
DJSNOLA wrote:
If an airline wanted to take all of the current concourse D can that be rectified easily to allow for international gates or would c be the better terminal to take over


Why?

it was a question about a third party airline wanting their own hub .. if one were to look at the two terminals (c or d) which one would be better suited .. .was a hypothetical question and the north terminal wouldnt be relevant in this hypothetical
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:32 pm

From LaDOTD about an hour ago. About to start on new signage from the Interstate.

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Friday, April 26, 2019 2:30 PM

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:25 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
The new terminal has a projected capacity to handle 20 million pax

Curious, what's the source for that?

Is that with the current gate count, or the expansion to 42 gates?
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:12 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
The new terminal has a projected capacity to handle 20 million pax

Curious, what's the source for that?

Is that with the current gate count, or the expansion to 42 gates?


Got that from a request for proposal for design of the taxiway G extension to the end of RWY 11. That's using the 35 gate count of the new terminal when it opens.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:50 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
The new terminal has a projected capacity to handle 20 million pax

Curious, what's the source for that?

Is that with the current gate count, or the expansion to 42 gates?

Got that from a request for proposal for design of the taxiway G extension to the end of RWY 11. That's using the 35 gate count of the new terminal when it opens.

Interesting. Anything on the projected capacity for the full 42?
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:07 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Curious, what's the source for that?

Is that with the current gate count, or the expansion to 42 gates?

Got that from a request for proposal for design of the taxiway G extension to the end of RWY 11. That's using the 35 gate count of the new terminal when it opens.

Interesting. Anything on the projected capacity for the full 42?


Didn't see anything mentioned.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:21 pm

AA just extending their schedules for DFW-SAP and DFW-TGU beyond the seasonal period, but they're still not going daily to either... from a superhub. :eek:

I wonder if that's indicative of the overall market, and a bad sign for MSY ever getting either one of those back on a nonstop any time that's remotely foreseeable?
...especially since this is the type of add that's going to feed directly off of the market from here, in addition to what IAH/MIA/ATL/etc are already doing.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:06 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
AA just extending their schedules for DFW-SAP and DFW-TGU beyond the seasonal period, but they're still not going daily to either... from a superhub. :eek:

I wonder if that's indicative of the overall market, and a bad sign for MSY ever getting either one of those back on a nonstop any time that's remotely foreseeable?
...especially since this is the type of add that's going to feed directly off of the market from here, in addition to what IAH/MIA/ATL/etc are already doing.


This helps clarify even further why we should all be happy that CM is flying out of here 4x weekly to PTY. PTY is such an easy place to connect through.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:06 pm

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This helps clarify even further why we should all be happy that CM is flying out of here 4x weekly to PTY.

Seems it might stay at that level for quite a bit too, considering the MAX issues that CM was no doubt counting on throughout their network.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:23 pm

Crews are definitely out there working on new interstate signage
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:36 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
AA just extending their schedules for DFW-SAP and DFW-TGU beyond the seasonal period, but they're still not going daily to either... from a superhub. :eek:

I wonder if that's indicative of the overall market, and a bad sign for MSY ever getting either one of those back on a nonstop any time that's remotely foreseeable?
...especially since this is the type of add that's going to feed directly off of the market from here, in addition to what IAH/MIA/ATL/etc are already doing.


Of course travel to that part of the world is quite weak right now, plus MAX issues. I think the best we can hope for is 2-3 weekly to SAP on NK.

Speaking of, it seems like MAX cancelations are only affecting the 3rd WN LAX and AA's LAX flights so far, plus postponing their addition of a 9th DFW flight. On the other hand, looks like NK is adding a few extra 320s to the fleet, compared to previous plans. Maybe that will work out in MSY's favor.

Unrelated note, but I overheard a conversation recently about transatlantic service. The gist was that a lot of people are aware of the BA and DE service but they all complained that DE isn't flying during the holidays and spring. I had to agree - I don't always want to travel to Europe during the peak of summer when everything is full and lines are long.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:31 am

msycajun wrote:
a conversation recently about transatlantic service.

Out of curiosity: between who? Just the general public?
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Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:26 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
msycajun wrote:
a conversation recently about transatlantic service.

Out of curiosity: between who? Just the general public?

Oh, yeah general public, meant to write that. I always find it interesting to hear how much the average local traveler keeps up with the service offerings.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 01, 2019 12:32 am

It’s weird how people keep up with the service offerings but the not the terminal itself lol guess that kind of makes sense in a way
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 01, 2019 1:21 am

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It’s weird how people keep up with the service offerings but the not the terminal itself lol guess that kind of makes sense in a way


Makes sense to me as well. Service offerings are far more important when planning travel than what the building you'll be transiting through looks like. Case in point (LGA).
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat May 04, 2019 7:24 am

From the local spotters page, looks like the new terminal will not have a bank or currency exchange. No one opted to bid out for these services. Not surprising as currency overseas can now easily be obtained from an ATM for far lower fees, and most people have a banking app on their phone that provides all of the services typically required for someone travelling.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat May 04, 2019 3:29 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
From the local spotters page, looks like the new terminal will not have a bank or currency exchange. No one opted to bid out for these services. Not surprising as currency overseas can now easily be obtained from an ATM for far lower fees, and most people have a banking app on their phone that provides all of the services typically required for someone travelling.



Couldnt find any awards for currency exchange so perhaps this is right. Certainly dont see them not having a bank at least
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Sat May 04, 2019 3:35 pm

Travelex recently closed in the current terminal.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat May 04, 2019 3:44 pm

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Travelex recently closed in the current terminal.



Maybe so then! i guess people just use atms these days so its not really needed anymore
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 05, 2019 3:55 pm

Well TS is showing up in the OAG: 2 weekly MSY-YUL November-April with a 737-800. This checks a big destination off my list and nice to see a new airline in the market. Hopefully it does well enough to go year-round. I wonder if AC will respond or if WS might be prompted to take another look at MSY.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 05, 2019 8:23 pm

Great to see YUL as a destination and to have a new carrier in the market. I also wonder if AC will respond.

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