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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 30, 2019 5:25 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
msycajun wrote:

Sure, but correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think that data captures connecting yields and probably doesn't factor in seats bought with miles. I think a route like that is about much more than that particular flight, and more about the OW loyalists it helps to retain. Plus SJC has to compete with all of the routes up the road, something that BA at MSY doesn't have to worry about.


Think Silicon Valley, business traffic and $$$. Isn’t most of MSYs passenger traffic vacation?


MSY has higher yields than SJC.


Are the fares higher out of MSY?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 30, 2019 5:51 pm

AirFiero wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
AirFiero wrote:

Think Silicon Valley, business traffic and $$$. Isn’t most of MSYs passenger traffic vacation?


MSY has higher yields than SJC.


Are the fares higher out of MSY?


Who cares if they are higher if the yield is higher? For example, MSY fare of $100, but cost of $90, so profit of $10; but SJC fare of $110, but cost of $105, only profit of $5. So fare was higher in SJC, but it cost more to operate.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 30, 2019 8:56 pm

For reference from further back in the thread. Yields are above the yield curve for BA longhaul from LHR and equivalent to BWI, IAD, ORD, and LAS. SJC has yields on par with LAX and they are lowest yielding routes in the network. FLL and OAK have already been discontinued.

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 30, 2019 9:51 pm

Concession construction looks like it's moving along very quickly now.

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 7:31 pm

If you or someone you know has or currently works at the airport - beware of people lurking on this thread looking for comments regarding the MSY leadership team. If it’s not a positive comment, they are out to get you. Consider this a public service advisory.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 8:48 pm

tl;dr: Proposal chosen for I-10/MSY interchange includes Louisiana's first diverging diamond interchange (awesome, I love these).

I can't wrap my head around this though: "The solution would also reconfigure the proposed elevated on and off ramps from New Orleans to a single structure in the median of Airport Access Road south of Veterans Blvd."

Gilchrist Construction Company apparent successful proposer for new Loyola interchange
Friday, May 31, 2019 at 3:03:27 PM
NEW ORLEANS - Today, Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development (DOTD) Secretary Shawn D. Wilson, along with state and local officials, announced the selection of Gilchrist Construction Company to build the Loyola Interchange Project, which will create an entrance ramp into the Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport.

“Upon taking office, my administration made it a priority to get this important project underway as soon as possible,” said Gov. John Bel Edwards. “Not only will this help significantly reduce traffic congestion, but it’s only fitting that this world-class airport have an entrance of the same stature. Thanks to Dr. Wilson and his team, we have been able to secure the necessary funding and accomplish an important first step in turning this long-awaited improvement into a reality.”

These proposals were reviewed extensively for their ability to efficiently complete the project while minimizing effects on the traveling public before making this decision. Of the three contractors that submitted proposals earlier this month, Gilchrist Construction Company is the apparent successful proposer for the contract for this design-build improvement project. Each of the three proposals presented offered a unique and efficient design that would reduce traffic congestion in the area.

“I want to thank the various jurisdictions for working with us to make a great airport project even greater,” said Secretary Wilson. “This is one of four major projects that have been on the books for years that we are delivering simultaneously with GARVEE bonds and innovative procurement. This will be one of the most complex design-build projects with regards to traffic to date and promises to be a signature interchange for years to come.”

Gilchrist Construction Company’s proposal utilized a diverging diamond interchange to improve traffic flow at the intersection of Loyola Dr. and I-10, which would eliminate the need for a left turn signal at the interstate. This alternative would be one of the first diverging diamond interchanges constructed in Louisiana. The solution would also reconfigure the proposed elevated on and off ramps from New Orleans to a single structure in the median of Airport Access Road south of Veterans Blvd. The proposal also provided aesthetic enhancements that would be a first for the region that include color, creative lighting, and landscaping.

“I am excited that we have an end in sight for this long-discussed project. The airport and the interchange will be transformative for the residents of this region and the millions of visitors that will travel through them,” said Representative Joseph Stagni. “I appreciate the efforts of this administration and our local government partners for the progress and economic development this interchange provides, while also balancing the need for the improvement and the impact to our city.”

“The governor and the DOTD have done an outstanding job delivering a project that had not been made a priority,” said Senator Daniel Martiny. “This project will make the experience of going to or from home or the airport much more efficient.”

“As a member of the Senate Transportation Committee, we approved the design-build procurement for this project less than a year and a half ago because it offers the opportunity to provide the best value to citizens while leveraging innovation of the private sector in both the design and construction phases,” said Senator Gary Smith. “The department has been able to provide for the long-term solution while also providing enhanced access and completed the interim solution before the airport actually opens.”

This project is being funded by the state’s first issuance of GARVEE bonds, which are special bonds that are repaid using federal funds allocated to Louisiana. Additional funding commitments for this project have been aided by Jefferson Parish, the City of New Orleans, LANOIA, the City of Kenner, and the New Orleans Regional Planning Commission.

A design-build contract execution is scheduled for late August 2019, as well as a groundbreaking in the fall of 2019. This project will cost $125.6 million. Once the design phase is completed, construction is anticipated to begin in early 2020, with an estimated completion of mid to late 2023.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 10:02 pm

If you look at the way the airport road meets veterans it splits with a wide median in the middle im assuming the single structure will land there servicing outward bound and inward bound traffic from nola
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:08 am

sketch wrote:
tl;dr: Proposal chosen for I-10/MSY interchange includes Louisiana's first diverging diamond interchange (awesome, I love these).

I can't wrap my head around this though: "The solution would also reconfigure the proposed elevated on and off ramps from New Orleans to a single structure in the median of Airport Access Road south of Veterans Blvd."



Imagine something along the lines of this:

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:47 am

 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:08 am

The flyover design sounds like the same setup the current flyover ramp has. Love that a diverging diamond will be added. That design can really move a large amount of traffic efficiently. I would imagine the flyover ramp will be built first, so that New Orleans based traffic heading to and from the airport will be off the current roadways. That should keep the impacts of the diverging diamond construction limited to local traffic and those headed to points west.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:31 am

SunsetLimited wrote:
If you or someone you know has or currently works at the airport - beware of people lurking on this thread looking for comments regarding the MSY leadership team. If it’s not a positive comment, they are out to get you. Consider this a public service advisory.


How petty to those who would do such a thing. Guess they have nothing better to do.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:53 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
SunsetLimited wrote:
If you or someone you know has or currently works at the airport - beware of people lurking on this thread looking for comments regarding the MSY leadership team. If it’s not a positive comment, they are out to get you. Consider this a public service advisory.


How petty to those who would do such a thing. Guess they have nothing better to do.

Gosh I hope they don't see all the comments on every nola.com article about the airport :roll:
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:10 am

Yeah so people over there have nothing better to do that stalk folks on here for exercising the rights to critique the job they are doing as supposedly public servants.... yikes and lol for thinking thats going to work out well for them
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:22 am

2018 average annual domestic O&D passenger, fare, and yield data for each market that averaged 10 or more total passengers per day in all four quarters. If a market didn't meet that minimum in all four quarters, it was not included. Portland, OR remains the largest unserved market from MSY with 101 PDEW on average in 2018.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1obPe3_HDoNRUW_Yosn4vBjLlhxY_vehwJc-aTRWMIuM/edit?usp=sharing

Fastest growing markets year over year:

1. Midland/Odessa, TX = 61.1% growth (29 PDEW and 42 cent yield)
2. Greensboro/High Point, NC = 38.5% growth (27 PDEW and 30 cent yield)
3. Austin, TX = 31.5% growth (225 PDEW and 38 cent yield)
4. Cleveland, OH = 29% growth (124 PDEW and 19 cent yield)
5. El Paso, TX = 28.2% growth (25 PDEW and 25 cent yield)
6. San Diego, CA = 24.8% growth (189 PDEW and 15 cent yield)
7. Raleigh/Durham, NC = 24.2% growth (154 PDEW and 23 cent yield)
8. San Antonio, TX = 23.5% growth (150 PDEW and 34 cent yield)
9. Columbus, OH = 22.8% growth (97 PDEW and 22 cent yield)
10. San Francisco, CA = 16.4% growth (492 PDEW and 14 cent yield)
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:10 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
2018 average annual domestic O&D passenger, fare, and yield data for each market that averaged 10 or more total passengers per day in all four quarters. If a market didn't meet that minimum in all four quarters, it was not included. Portland, OR remains the largest unserved market from MSY with 101 PDEW on average in 2018.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1obPe3_HDoNRUW_Yosn4vBjLlhxY_vehwJc-aTRWMIuM/edit?usp=sharing

Fastest growing markets year over year:

1. Midland/Odessa, TX = 61.1% growth (29 PDEW and 42 cent yield)
2. Greensboro/High Point, NC = 38.5% growth (27 PDEW and 30 cent yield)
3. Austin, TX = 31.5% growth (225 PDEW and 38 cent yield)
4. Cleveland, OH = 29% growth (124 PDEW and 19 cent yield)
5. El Paso, TX = 28.2% growth (25 PDEW and 25 cent yield)
6. San Diego, CA = 24.8% growth (189 PDEW and 15 cent yield)
7. Raleigh/Durham, NC = 24.2% growth (154 PDEW and 23 cent yield)
8. San Antonio, TX = 23.5% growth (150 PDEW and 34 cent yield)
9. Columbus, OH = 22.8% growth (97 PDEW and 22 cent yield)
10. San Francisco, CA = 16.4% growth (492 PDEW and 14 cent yield)


I'm new to this, where did you get your PDEW numbers from? What is the difference between PDEW and the passenger values you have on the spreadsheet for each quarter?

Thanks,
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:49 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
2018 average annual domestic O&D passenger, fare, and yield data for each market that averaged 10 or more total passengers per day in all four quarters. If a market didn't meet that minimum in all four quarters, it was not included. Portland, OR remains the largest unserved market from MSY with 101 PDEW on average in 2018.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1obPe3_HDoNRUW_Yosn4vBjLlhxY_vehwJc-aTRWMIuM/edit?usp=sharing

Fastest growing markets year over year:

1. Midland/Odessa, TX = 61.1% growth (29 PDEW and 42 cent yield)
2. Greensboro/High Point, NC = 38.5% growth (27 PDEW and 30 cent yield)
3. Austin, TX = 31.5% growth (225 PDEW and 38 cent yield)
4. Cleveland, OH = 29% growth (124 PDEW and 19 cent yield)
5. El Paso, TX = 28.2% growth (25 PDEW and 25 cent yield)
6. San Diego, CA = 24.8% growth (189 PDEW and 15 cent yield)
7. Raleigh/Durham, NC = 24.2% growth (154 PDEW and 23 cent yield)
8. San Antonio, TX = 23.5% growth (150 PDEW and 34 cent yield)
9. Columbus, OH = 22.8% growth (97 PDEW and 22 cent yield)
10. San Francisco, CA = 16.4% growth (492 PDEW and 14 cent yield)


Thanks for putting this together. Fascinating that AA is now the #1 legacy carrier at MSY and NYC is the largest market with 3% growth, but AA still doesn't have service to LGA/JFK.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:00 am

bretonrlong wrote:

I'm new to this, where did you get your PDEW numbers from? What is the difference between PDEW and the passenger values you have on the spreadsheet for each quarter?

Thanks,


I get the data from this site...https://www.transportation.gov/policy/aviation-policy/domestic-airline-consumer-airfare-report

It's all located in Table 6. There is also other interesting data in the other tables.

My spreadsheet is total passengers flying from and to a market using MSY. PDEW is that total passenger number cut in half to reflect one way traffic between MSY and the market. PDEW is one of the factors the industry uses when looking at how much demand a market has and how much capacity a market can support.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:02 am

jbs2886 wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
2018 average annual domestic O&D passenger, fare, and yield data for each market that averaged 10 or more total passengers per day in all four quarters. If a market didn't meet that minimum in all four quarters, it was not included. Portland, OR remains the largest unserved market from MSY with 101 PDEW on average in 2018.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1obPe3_HDoNRUW_Yosn4vBjLlhxY_vehwJc-aTRWMIuM/edit?usp=sharing

Fastest growing markets year over year:

1. Midland/Odessa, TX = 61.1% growth (29 PDEW and 42 cent yield)
2. Greensboro/High Point, NC = 38.5% growth (27 PDEW and 30 cent yield)
3. Austin, TX = 31.5% growth (225 PDEW and 38 cent yield)
4. Cleveland, OH = 29% growth (124 PDEW and 19 cent yield)
5. El Paso, TX = 28.2% growth (25 PDEW and 25 cent yield)
6. San Diego, CA = 24.8% growth (189 PDEW and 15 cent yield)
7. Raleigh/Durham, NC = 24.2% growth (154 PDEW and 23 cent yield)
8. San Antonio, TX = 23.5% growth (150 PDEW and 34 cent yield)
9. Columbus, OH = 22.8% growth (97 PDEW and 22 cent yield)
10. San Francisco, CA = 16.4% growth (492 PDEW and 14 cent yield)


Thanks for putting this together. Fascinating that AA is now the #1 legacy carrier at MSY and NYC is the largest market with 3% growth, but AA still doesn't have service to LGA/JFK.


I'm also kind of surprised AA isn't flying to LGA yet. NK, WN, DL, UA, and B6 are all flying to the NYC market. As the business market continues to grow, maybe we'll see AA add an LGA flight.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:43 pm

ICYMI: NK is adding daily service to BNA on October 10. 320 aircraft:
BNA - MSY: 9:10AM - 10:35AM
MSY - BNA: 12:05PM - 1:30PM
 
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:54 pm

This puts NK at 21 destinations flown out of MSY.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:37 pm

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This puts NK at 21 destinations flown out of MSY.


So that leaves Indianapolis, Kansas City, Oakland, Phoenix, Pittsburg, San Antonio, San Diego, SanJose, St Louis, Sacramento, and Washington DC as Southwest Markets Spirit hasn't entered yet.. think some of those are next?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:24 pm

I could see PHX, OAK, PIT, and IND happening. Decent demand for all of these routes. NK isn't at STL yet, so that won't happen until they open a station there.
 
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Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:45 pm

Kyoya wrote:



thanks for sharing this.. very informative
 
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:29 pm

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Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:21 pm

Looking really good. Any updates on opening?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:26 pm

Looks like the long term garage structure is really progressing along quickly.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:37 pm

Every seat is a window seat at #TheNewMSY! And even better, 50% of the seats have charging ports so no more searching for outlets to power up! #windowseatwednesday

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:41 am

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And even better, 50% of the seats have charging ports

Awesome... now let's just hope that they (don't take a page from LAX T2/T3, and) actually plug these in, so the charging ports actually have electricity! :irked:
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:07 am

Allegiant is announcing GRR-MSY 2 weekly (Thurs/Sun) starting in October. Certainly a surprising add.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:11 am

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Allegiant is announcing GRR-MSY

Cool!

What's the source?
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:39 am

LAX772LR wrote:
msycajun wrote:
Allegiant is announcing GRR-MSY

Cool!

What's the source?

Already loaded on their website
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:01 am

msycajun wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
msycajun wrote:
Allegiant is announcing GRR-MSY

What's the source?

Already loaded on their website

:checkmark: :checkmark:

FlightGlobal has picked up on it now too.

Seasonal, from October 3.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ns-458930/
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:39 pm

F9 is also adding CVG-MSY 2 weekly (Mon-Fri) starting November 15. However DEN is being reduced to 4 weekly, likely in response to NK's entry and WN/UA going 3 daily. SAT appears to be going seasonal.

Interesting to think that CVG will have up to 5 weekly flights, while IND, CMH and PIT can't seem to support even 2 weekly year-round. Would love for someone to give MKE a try next.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:53 pm

Glad to see another new destination served.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:48 pm

ANyone hear any news about the airport starting passenger trials soon?
 
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Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:31 am

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Glad to see another new destination served.

:checkmark:

Been feeling like this was the year that PDX would finally be announced, especially with SY on its current roll. :crossfingers: :crossfingers: :crossfingers: :crossfingers:
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Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:18 pm

 
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Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:30 pm

In case you haven't heard, today is the day for new air service! Frontier Airlines starts flights to Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport on November 15th! Book now at flyfrontier.com. #flyMSY

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Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:18 pm

Getting to fly both the BA 788 and 789 on one trip is a great way to end a vacation. Flying this baby in seat 11A tomorrow! Can't wait.

https://m.planespotters.net/airframe/Bo ... s/WL84HnGk
 
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Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:37 pm

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Getting to fly both the BA 788 and 789 on one trip is a great way to end a vacation. Flying this baby in seat 11A tomorrow! Can't wait.

https://m.planespotters.net/airframe/Bo ... s/WL84HnGk


Nice! The 789 came in yesterday, too. About 90% full.
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Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:19 am

SunsetLimited wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
Getting to fly both the BA 788 and 789 on one trip is a great way to end a vacation.

Nice! The 789 came in yesterday, too. About 90% full.

And yet, here "we" are... their only LHR-USA route over a year old, that they've never made daily and/or upgauged.

#Confounded

Even DE saw an opportunity, and started sending their 30J hi-premium configuration on FRA-MSY.
But BA remains inexplicably stagnant, for an outsider looking in. It's so strange.
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Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:09 am

Here are some shots I took of the BA 788 and 789.

BA 788 that flew MSY-LHR on 6/3/19.

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BA 789 that flew LHR-MSY on 6/21/19.

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Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:28 am

UK CAA stats are out for April.

https://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Content/Standard_Content/Data_and_analysis/Datasets/Airport_stats/Airport_data_2019_04/Table_12_1_Intl_Air_Pax_Traffic_Route_Analysis.pdf

The MSY-LHR route had an estimated load factor of 82.4% in April. There were 7,758 pax flying on an estimated 9,416 offered seats. Last year, the load factor was 84.6% with 7,600 pax flying on an estimated 8,988 offered seats. Pax count grew by 2.1% year over year.

All seat estimations for MSY, BWI, PIT and CHS are based on 788 seat count. SJC and BNA are based on 789 seat count. There were no cancelled flights for any of the routes in April.

The following breaks down the numbers for each station that sees 788/789 flying exclusively.

Station..........Apr. Seats........Apr. Pax...........Apr. LF.......YTD Seats.......YTD Pax......YTD LF
MSY................9,416................7,758..............82.4%.........36,380............28,773..........79.1%
BWI...............12,840..............11,565..............90.1%.........50,504............39,885..........78.9%
BNA................9,072................7,843..............86.5%.........30,904............22,813..........73.8%
SJC...............12,960..............10,138..............78.2%.........48,816............35,291..........72.3%
CHS................3,424................2,456..............71.7%..........3,424...............2,456..........71.7%
PIT..................7,276................4,798..............65.9%..........7,276...............4,798...........65.9%
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:14 am

The airport posted April numbers. http://www.flymsy.com/Files/Press/Airli ... il2019.pdf

The airport reported 1,205,353 passengers for the month. An increase of 1.9% over 2018. Year to date numbers are up 2.7% to 4,460,414 passengers. The airport was ranked 37th in the lower 48 and 38th nationally through April and was postiioned between HOU and OAK. DL and AA were basically neck and neck with each other this month. DL and G4 were the only carriers to see any significant decline in passenger totals. The international carriers saw modest year over year growth.

Estimated international carrier load factor (April):

AC: 84.3% full outbound (MSY-YYZ) 3690 pax/4380 seats
82.5% full inbound (YYZ-MSY) 3614 pax/4380 seats
83.4% full combined 7304 pax/8760 seats

BA: 81.1% full outbound (MSY-LHR) 3820 pax/4708 seats
81.4% full inbound (LHR-MSY) 3831 pax/4708 seats
81.3% full combined 7651 pax/9416 seats

CM: 70.2% full outbound (MSY-PTY) 1567 pax/2232 seats
91.7% full inbound (PTY-MSY) 1933 pax/2108 seats
80.7% full combined 3500 pax/4340 seats
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:08 am

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CM: 70.2% full outbound (MSY-PTY) 1567 pax/2232 seats
91.7% full inbound (PTY-MSY) 1933 pax/2108 seats

Isn't the first time we've seen a disparity like this for [email protected]

I'm wondering what causes it; best guess is a surge in demand on one of the days they don't fly?
...of course the obvious followup if so, is why then wouldn't they fly that day, even if seasonally? Would the opportunity cost be that steep?
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:19 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
There were no cancelled flights for any of the routes in April.

Is this info published anywhere?
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:23 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
CM: 70.2% full outbound (MSY-PTY) 1567 pax/2232 seats
91.7% full inbound (PTY-MSY) 1933 pax/2108 seats

Isn't the first time we've seen a disparity like this for [email protected]

I'm wondering what causes it; best guess is a surge in demand on one of the days they don't fly?
...of course the obvious followup if so, is why then wouldn't they fly that day, even if seasonally? Would the opportunity cost be that steep?


Not sure if this is the first time we've seen this disparity. Would love to see this flight add another frequency.

For the BA flight info, BA Source http://thebasource.com/ has a daily listing of flight cancellations.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:19 am

LAX772LR wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
CM: 70.2% full outbound (MSY-PTY) 1567 pax/2232 seats
91.7% full inbound (PTY-MSY) 1933 pax/2108 seats

Isn't the first time we've seen a disparity like this for [email protected]

I'm wondering what causes it; best guess is a surge in demand on one of the days they don't fly?
...of course the obvious followup if so, is why then wouldn't they fly that day, even if seasonally? Would the opportunity cost be that steep?


That route has been unusually quiet. Maybe the local tourism bureaus need to put something together and try to get PTY daily.

The bigger question mark for me is the Delta numbers - they seem way off with deplanements being 25k lower than enplanements. There's no explanation that I can think of other than a calculation error. DL hasn't been growing a huge amount but they have grown some, with all of their hub service now mainline as far as I can tell and the weekend BOS and RDU services are basically going year round. Plus MSP is increasing to 2 daily this spring per today's OAG thread.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them try at least a weekend CVG service, since the competition is heating up with F9 starting the route in addition to G4.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:20 am

Tangent, but anyone ever seen numbers for NOLA to western Mexico?

I always wondered what the stats on a weekly MSY-SJD would be like.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil

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