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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:44 am

The airport posted May statistics. http://www.flymsy.com/Files/Press/AirlineStatistics-May2019.pdf

The airport reported 1,285,777 passengers for the month which is a new monthly record. This represented an increase of 7.4% over May 2018. Year to date numbers are up 3.7% to 5,746,191 passengers. I will update with a ranking when I get the needed data.

Other than G4 and F9, all of the other domestic carriers saw increases. The international carriers were a mixed bag. CM saw a decline, but AC and BA saw growth. DL stopped flying the CUN route in April, but will be back this winter. DE also did not fly this May for some reason. The flights were very full last May. I'm also not 100% certain when AC ended 2x daily seasonal flights, so I only calculated for 1x daily service in May. The estimates could be off because of that.

Estimated international carrier load factor (May):

AC: 92.4% full outbound (MSY-YYZ) 2149 pax/2325 seats
88.5% full inbound (YYZ-MSY) 2058 pax/2325 seats
90.5% full combined 4207 pax/4650 seats

BA: 94.9% full outbound (MSY-LHR) 4669 pax/4922 seats
81.0% full inbound (LHR-MSY) 3987 pax/4922 seats
87.9% full combined 8656 pax/9844 seats

CM: 85.5% full outbound (MSY-PTY) 1803 pax/2108 seats
77.0% full inbound (PTY-MSY) 1718 pax/2232 seats
81.1% full combined 3521 pax/4340 seats
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:49 pm

Follow up to previous post, the airport was ranked 37th busiest in the nation through May, and was positioned between HOU and RSW.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:21 pm

Does anyone know which airlines will use which gates at the new terminal?
When is it expected to open??
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:52 am

Not sure of the exact gate assignments yet. We do know that DL, NK, UA, and AC will be on Concourse C, and that WN, AA, B6, and AS will be on Concourse B. F9, SY, and G4 will be over on the end of A. BA, CM, DE, and any international flights from WN, DL, UA, etc. will also operate out of A. I'm not sure where TS will go, but since they are merging with AC it will likely be C as YUL is a pre-clearance airport. .

Most of us are expecting an opening in November, but no firm date has been issued yet.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:17 pm

WN's MSY-SJC route had the best loads of the month at 95.0%.


Wow. I wonder if that route would ever go more than 1x weekly?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:02 am

It would be great if all of the 1-2x weekly WN routes eventually went daily. That would include RDU, PIT, IND, SMF, SJC, CMH, CLE, and BOS.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:25 am

AirFiero wrote:
Wow. I wonder if that route would ever go more than 1x weekly?
NolaMD88fan wrote:
It would be great if all of the 1-2x weekly WN routes eventually went daily. That would include RDU, PIT, IND, SMF, SJC, CMH, CLE, and BOS.

Unfortunately, none of that is likely, until that whole 737MAX situation is resolved and more ships are delivered.

Even with them pre-built and in storage, it could quite possibly be a year or more before see see the airlines' shorthaul networks completely recovered from this setback.

At least MSY is fortunate in that all routes seem to be sustained. Others are being outright cancelled. :(
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:20 pm

According to the OAG thread this week, WN is slightly reducing LAS service in the fall, but NK is going double daily mid-November. Notable as FLL is the only route they regularly run more than daily, although they've dabbled with extra service around Mardi Gras and it is a rare red-eye departing MSY at 11:10pm and arriving at 7:10am. More interesting is that I can't figure out where the plane comes from or goes - perhaps we'll see some new routes or additional frequency elsewhere announced soon.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:27 pm

msycajun wrote:
perhaps we'll see some new routes or additional frequency elsewhere announced soon.

Which could be a great paradigm shift for the airport:
NK serves most significant cities from MSY, and if/when they start offering multiple daily, they can really get some decent transfer service going... further easing the airport's CPE.

I suspect we won't see such a thing until they have the access permitted by the NT, but it's fun to imagine just what they could become with the ability to take pax from the west coast to Florida, or LatAm to the northeast, via MSY. :cloudnine:
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:34 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
msycajun wrote:
perhaps we'll see some new routes or additional frequency elsewhere announced soon.

Which could be a great paradigm shift for the airport:
NK serves most significant cities from MSY, and if/when they start offering multiple daily, they can really get some decent transfer service going... further easing the airport's CPE.


There are a few more domestic nonstop routes such as MSY-CLT, MSY-IND, MSY-MCI, and MSY-RIC that could be added by NK out of MSY.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:02 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Most of us are expecting an opening in November, but no firm date has been issued yet.


For whatever its worth, I've heard that the opening may be pushed back to 2020. The sewer issue is reportedly not resolved.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:08 pm

Nola wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
Most of us are expecting an opening in November, but no firm date has been issued yet.


For whatever its worth, I've heard that the opening may be pushed back to 2020. The sewer issue is reportedly not resolved.




its been awfully quiet from the airport in general about the new terminal .. so who knows!
I still expect lawsuits to fly in relation the new terminal at some point soon


However , the airport website is still saying Fall on their posts!


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Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:13 pm

Rest in peace, Cesar Pelli. We are honored to have part of the visionary architect’s legacy live on at #MSY. Pelli designed our new $1 billion terminal. He drew inspiration from the geography of the Delta region and the soft curves of the Mississippi River. Pelli Clarke Pelli Architects

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:40 pm

Nola wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
Most of us are expecting an opening in November, but no firm date has been issued yet.


For whatever its worth, I've heard that the opening may be pushed back to 2020. The sewer issue is reportedly not resolved.


If that's the case, I don't see the airport board approving any further change orders for sewer repairs since they already paid for the issue previously. In fact, the last board meeting had nearly 3 million dollars of the change order rejected by the board.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:43 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Nola wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
Most of us are expecting an opening in November, but no firm date has been issued yet.


For whatever its worth, I've heard that the opening may be pushed back to 2020. The sewer issue is reportedly not resolved.


If that's the case, I don't see the airport board approving any further change orders for sewer repairs since they already paid for the issue previously. In fact, the last board meeting had nearly 3 million dollars of the change order rejected by the board.


If so, it's really poor PR management on the part of MSY. They have over and over given firm dates that were unattainable, losing the public's trust, and it doesn't make sense to still be putting out ads and social media content that says Fall 2019 on it if that is not a realistic possibility.

Unrelated note, looks like Vacation Express has released their summer 2020 schedule. Very similar to this year with PUJ running mid-May through July (with a second weekly flight May-June) and MBJ mid-May through the end of June.
https://www.vacationexpress.com/flight-schedule/
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:54 am

Of course, all we are working with is rumor and innuendo at this point. It still may open in the Fall.

Glad to see MBJ coming back. Will have to take advantage of it next year to visit in-laws.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:27 pm

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Of course, all we are working with is rumor and innuendo at this point. It still may open in the Fall.


Absolutely. My source is someone who works at the airport but not for the NOAB. I have no way to evaluate accuracy but simply pass the information along as a data point.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:11 pm

One of the new rental car shuttle buses was spotted. Looks great! Glad to see it's a large bus with easy access for disabled riders.

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Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:34 pm

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One of the new rental car shuttle buses was spotted. Looks great! Glad to see it's a large bus with easy access for disabled riders.

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I forgot to post it because it's on my dash cam and I haven't pulled the files yet, but I saw one of these on the spillway bridge a month or two ago. No telling where it was headed!
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:17 pm

sketch wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
One of the new rental car shuttle buses was spotted. Looks great! Glad to see it's a large bus with easy access for disabled riders.

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I forgot to post it because it's on my dash cam and I haven't pulled the files yet, but I saw one of these on the spillway bridge a month or two ago. No telling where it was headed!


Not sure where they are being stored for the time being either. There was a rumor floating around that the airport had ordered smaller buses like those used by the off-site parking operators. Very glad to see those rumors were false.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:54 pm

are they being used by rta to service the airport route?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:27 am

DJSNOLA wrote:
are they being used by rta to service the airport route?


No. These are NOAB owned and operated buses dedicated solely to transferring passengers between the new terminal and the CONRAC.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:22 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
DJSNOLA wrote:
are they being used by rta to service the airport route?


No. These are NOAB owned and operated buses dedicated solely to transferring passengers between the new terminal and the CONRAC.



gotcha maybe the airport is currently shuttling workers from the south side to the north terminal to check out the logistics of how it will work.. do we think the shuttles from the southside are going to use bainbridge for accessing the terminal instead of access road?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:27 pm

DJSNOLA wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
DJSNOLA wrote:
are they being used by rta to service the airport route?


No. These are NOAB owned and operated buses dedicated solely to transferring passengers between the new terminal and the CONRAC.



gotcha maybe the airport is currently shuttling workers from the south side to the north terminal to check out the logistics of how it will work.. do we think the shuttles from the southside are going to use bainbridge for accessing the terminal instead of access road?


Sorry for the confusion. This was simply a bus being delivered. It was not in use at the time. All of the parking and rental car shuttles will be using Bainbridge when the new terminal opens.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:32 pm

thanks good to know and the shuttles using bainbridge will help alleviate some traffic from loyola too
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:13 pm

Airport posted a photo of the Mondo space in the new terminal. It looks great. This is located in the main terminal area just past security on the way to Concourses A and B.

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For reference:

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:33 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
DJSNOLA wrote:
are they being used by rta to service the airport route?

No. These are NOAB owned and operated buses

:shakehead: :shakehead:

The parking garage operator (New South Parking) is responsible for the garage and Conrac shuttles.

NOAB does not own nor operate them.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:34 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
DJSNOLA wrote:
are they being used by rta to service the airport route?

No. These are NOAB owned and operated buses

:shakehead: :shakehead:

The parking garage operator (New South Parking) is responsible for the garage AND Conrac shuttles.

NOAB does not own nor operate them.


Thanks for the correction. I did not know that.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:40 pm

Does anyone know how vehicular traffic will be directed to one side of the terminal or the other? Taxis and shuttles on one side, private vehicles on the other? Or by airline? I can't imagine the latter would make sense given the relatively narrow landside area where the check-in counters would be. Any information about/photos of road signage?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:59 pm

sketch wrote:
Does anyone know how vehicular traffic will be directed to one side of the terminal or the other? Taxis and shuttles on one side, private vehicles on the other? Or by airline? I can't imagine the latter would make sense given the relatively narrow landside area where the check-in counters would be. Any information about/photos of road signage?


IIRC, departures/checking will go to the west/upper roadway and I think buses and cabs have a roadway below that. Arrivals/baggage claim will go to the east side.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:59 pm

 
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Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:29 pm

Nice article...thanks for sharing. Sounds like a Fall opening is still on track. Even social media folks are saying the building is nearly complete now. From the pictures posted recently, that looks to be the case.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:13 am

The airport tweeted this article out today. https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/ ... ars-479497

Most interesting statistic I found was that NK ranked third for number of offered seats behind WN and DL in late June. NK had a 13.9% market share in terms of seats offered. That barely exceeded AA at 13.3% and far surpassed UA at 10.2%. NK has really exploded in growth over the last couple of years.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:31 am

Here another interesting piece of information I found on the CAPA twitter feed.

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Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:47 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
The airport tweeted this article out today. https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/ ... ars-479497

Most interesting statistic I found was that NK ranked third for number of offered seats behind WN and DL in late June. NK had a 13.9% market share in terms of seats offered. That barely exceeded AA at 13.3% and far surpassed UA at 10.2%. NK has really exploded in growth over the last couple of years.



it really is pretty amazing... fingers crossed the new airport will allow them to grow further by allowing a better setup for transferring traffic.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:01 pm

Also didnt notice this but a few new things have been added to the concessions program and a couple renderings I hadnt seen before:


Be Relax
Spa services


Chick-Fil-A
American, Fast-Food
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MAC
Cosmetics



Parish Provisions
Convenience store



Peet's Coffee
Coffee



Also didnt realize there were going to be over 100 check in counters.

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The ticketing and check in area will have over 100 check in counters with some leased by specific airlines and some available for common use as needed. Additionally, an in-line baggage screening system for checked baggage will improve efficiency by screening luggage for passengers “behind the scenes.”






Other Features:
Consolidated Loading Dock improves security and reduces costs by improving overall operational efficiency.
Dual Aircraft Taxi Lanes improves airline efficiency by reducing aircraft wait times preventing passenger waiting onboard the aircraft.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:15 pm

We can’t wait for some @cafedumonde beignets and cafe au lait at #thenewmsy ! Check out the progress on construction and final design of the restaurant. : @mlt_architects #food #beignets #neworleans #cafeaulait #flymsy #msy #airport #customerservice



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Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:00 pm

DJSNOLA wrote:
We can’t wait for some @cafedumonde beignets and cafe au lait at #thenewmsy ! Check out the progress on construction and final design of the restaurant. : @mlt_architects #food #beignets #neworleans #cafeaulait #flymsy #msy #airport #customerservice



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Cafe Du Monde at the airport, very cool!

They are a sentimental favorite, but from recommendations from locals I tried Cafe Beignet and liked their beignets a bit better. Have you tried them?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:19 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
The airport tweeted this article out today. https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/ ... ars-479497

Most interesting statistic I found was that NK ranked third for number of offered seats behind WN and DL in late June. NK had a 13.9% market share in terms of seats offered. That barely exceeded AA at 13.3% and far surpassed UA at 10.2%. NK has really exploded in growth over the last couple of years.


But it contains this statement: New Orleans secured a key victory in late 2017 when British Airways launched lights to London Heathrow, which is the airport’s only trans Atlantic service.
 
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:47 pm

i guess they mean year round and not seasonal? but def not true information lol

walk through of Fleurty Girls New Store at MSY
https://www.findgroundmates.com/media/2 ... 0Bf5-DAJSr
 
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:02 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
The airport tweeted this article out today. https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/ ... ars-479497

Most interesting statistic I found was that NK ranked third for number of offered seats behind WN and DL in late June. NK had a 13.9% market share in terms of seats offered. That barely exceeded AA at 13.3% and far surpassed UA at 10.2%. NK has really exploded in growth over the last couple of years.


But it contains this statement: New Orleans secured a key victory in late 2017 when British Airways launched lights to London Heathrow, which is the airport’s only trans Atlantic service.


Definitely an oversight on their part. Also failed to mention the new Air Transat service to YUL. The other info was interesting though.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:36 pm

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Cafe Du Monde at the airport, very cool!

Sure, though nothing really novel about that, seeing as Cafe du Monde has been inside the current airport terminal for decades.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:38 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
Cafe Du Monde at the airport, very cool!

Sure, though nothing really novel about that, seeing as Cafe du Monde has been inside the current airport terminal for decades.


No Cafe Du Monde, it’s just a generic place called West Beignet.
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:49 pm

SunsetLimited wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
Cafe Du Monde at the airport, very cool!

Sure, though nothing really novel about that, seeing as Cafe du Monde has been inside the current airport terminal for decades.


No Cafe Du Monde, it’s just a generic place called West Beignet.

Ugh, was confusing it with AcmeOH... always do that. Mea Culpa.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:57 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
SunsetLimited wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Sure, though nothing really novel about that, seeing as Cafe du Monde has been inside the current airport terminal for decades.


No Cafe Du Monde, it’s just a generic place called West Beignet.

Ugh, was confusing it with AcmeOH... always do that. Mea Culpa.



No more Acme, either.

The old Acme is now the horrible rendition of Dolly Chase.
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Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:39 am

SunsetLimited wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
SunsetLimited wrote:

No Cafe Du Monde, it’s just a generic place called West Beignet.

Ugh, was confusing it with AcmeOH... always do that. Mea Culpa.



No more Acme, either.

The old Acme is now the horrible rendition of Dolly Chase.


DOOKY Chase, my bad. Still a bad airport version of a timeless NOLA restaurant.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:27 am

SunsetLimited wrote:
SunsetLimited wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Ugh, was confusing it with AcmeOH... always do that. Mea Culpa.



No more Acme, either.

The old Acme is now the horrible rendition of Dolly Chase.


DOOKY Chase, my bad. Still a bad airport version of a timeless NOLA restaurant.


Now if they could just put in a Commanders Palace ;)
 
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Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:03 pm

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Finally pulled dash cam footage this weekend—there's the rental car shuttle I saw on the spillway bridge way back in May.
 
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Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:48 pm

Wow, that dash cam with data looks really cool. Which one is it? I wonder if that would work in a small plane?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:58 pm

Waylens Horizon, it's designed for motorsport. I got it about half price in its Kickstarter days forever ago. Normally I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who isn't a motorsport enthusiast (it has special track functionality I haven't even used yet) due to the high price for a dash cam and somewhat less utility for typical dash cam purposes (1080p while many cheaper models are going higher resolution now to aid in things like license plate legibility; no support for rear-facing camera; etc.), but the image quality is very good, including at night. I don't know of anyone who's used one in an aircraft, but apart from the RPM and throttle position (which come over an OBD-II Bluetooth dongle), everything else on the screen is derived from motion sensors in the camera and GPS in the windshield mount.

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