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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:27 pm

Updated shot of the baggage claim area. I see wood paneling on top along with the numbers, and a metal wrap-around that is partially covered by protective material above and below the baggage belt. Also, looks like the artwork is fully installed along the walls above the claim belts. Doesn't look like there is much left to do in that area other than cleaning up.

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:51 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Updated shot of the baggage claim area. I see wood paneling on top along with the numbers, and a metal wrap-around that is partially covered by protective material above and below the baggage belt. Also, looks like the artwork is fully installed along the walls above the claim belts. Doesn't look like there is much left to do in that area other than cleaning up.

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Where's the wood paneling you're referring to?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:56 pm

The brown-grayish horizontal stuff that the number plinth is sitting on top of appears that it could be a weathered-look wood, or perhaps partially wet concrete. Hard to tell.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:37 pm

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The brown-grayish horizontal stuff that the number plinth is sitting on top of appears that it could be a weathered-look wood, or perhaps partially wet concrete. Hard to tell.


Does appear to be some sort of wood paneling... quick question about baggage claims... why are there so many baggage claims at the current airport and only 6 here besides the one in international arrivals... i know the current terminal only uses a small fraction of what they have available but why did we have so many to begin with?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:38 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Updated shot of the baggage claim area. I see wood paneling on top along with the numbers, and a metal wrap-around that is partially covered by protective material above and below the baggage belt. Also, looks like the artwork is fully installed along the walls above the claim belts. Doesn't look like there is much left to do in that area other than cleaning up.

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Also it looks to me like they are ready for the advertising managing firm to begin installing their infrastructure
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:52 pm

I don't check bags that often, but still, in my experience the majority of the carousels are empty whenever I go down there... I would guess it's "right-sizing" from the current overload of carousels. Plus, with the centralized nature of the new terminal you don't have the concern of people otherwise having to walk the distance from D to B just to get their luggage—they'll all be coming through the same place anyway.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:21 pm

sketch wrote:
The brown-grayish horizontal stuff that the number plinth is sitting on top of appears that it could be a weathered-look wood, or perhaps partially wet concrete. Hard to tell.


I see what you're talking about now. That's carpet. It's the same carpet used in the concourses.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:18 pm

Kyoya wrote:
sketch wrote:
The brown-grayish horizontal stuff that the number plinth is sitting on top of appears that it could be a weathered-look wood, or perhaps partially wet concrete. Hard to tell.


I see what you're talking about now. That's carpet. It's the same carpet used in the concourses.


Ok. Looks like paneling from that angle.

Not worried about the number of bag claims The bag claims in the current terminal sit unused most of the day. Airports like STL, AUS, and BNA operate with a similar number of bag claims.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:07 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Kyoya wrote:
sketch wrote:
The brown-grayish horizontal stuff that the number plinth is sitting on top of appears that it could be a weathered-look wood, or perhaps partially wet concrete. Hard to tell.


I see what you're talking about now. That's carpet. It's the same carpet used in the concourses.


Ok. Looks like paneling from that angle.

Not worried about the number of bag claims The bag claims in the current terminal sit unused most of the day. Airports like STL, AUS, and BNA operate with a similar number of bag claims.



Figured it was right sized was just wondering how the current one ended up with so many
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:16 pm

This photo is a bit dated but I hadnt seen a pic yet from this vantage point..


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Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:43 pm

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:04 pm

DJSNOLA wrote:
Figured it was right sized was just wondering how the current one ended up with so many

I'd guess checking baggage was a lot more popular when it was free on every airline. And overhead bins were smaller (and maybe just shelves) when a lot of the current airport was built.

I'd also guess they didn't build the carousels under Concourse D just for the capacity, but to save the walk for people deplaning there.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:41 pm

Concessions look like they are almost complete from the pictures. Good to see.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:55 pm

Looks like the drainage is causing some setback :?

https://www.fox8live.com/2019/07/31/mor ... w-orleans/
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:26 pm

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Looks like the drainage is causing some setback :?

https://www.fox8live.com/2019/07/31/mor ... w-orleans/


The article says the repairs are nearly complete and they are on track to open in the Fall. It's pretty common to do patch repairs of water and sewer lines beneath buildings around here. I'm glad the contractor is doing routine inspections and finding these issues before the place opens. I can't imagine how this would look if they allowed the facility to open and then had a leaking drain line to repair. This would also explain the recent rejection by the NOAB to pay for most of a change order request in the last monthly meeting.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:22 pm

Here is more detail. Toilets were not flushing properly. Sounds like it was an installation error by the contractor that has been mostly repaired. Definitely something the contractor should pay for and not the NOAB since it was the contractor's fault. https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/inve ... 96c255a968
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:45 am

UK CAA stats are out for June.

https://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Content/Standard_Content/Data_and_analysis/Datasets/Airport_stats/Airport_data_2019_06/Table_12_1_Intl_Air_Pax_Traffic_Route_Analysis.pdf

The MSY-LHR route had an estimated load factor of 86.8% in June. There were 7,799 pax flying on an estimated 8,988 offered seats. Last year, the load factor was 85.5% with 8,048 pax flying on an estimated 9,416 offered seats. Pax count declined by -3.1% year over year due to one less flight being flown as compared to June 2018. This resulted in a -4.5% decline in offered seats. The increase in load factor indicates that demand increased over the previous year. The route had the second highest load factor of all 787 variant routes through the first half of the year with only BWI besting MSY.

All seat estimations for MSY, BWI, PIT and CHS are based on 788 seat count. SJC and BNA are based on 789 seat count. BWI, PIT, and SJC all had one cancelled roundtrip flight in June.

The following breaks down the numbers for each station that sees 788/789 flying exclusively.

Station..........Jun Seats........Jun Pax.............Jun LF.......YTD Seats.......YTD Pax......YTD LF
BWI...............12,412..............12,118..............97.6%.........76,184............64,113..........84.2%
MSY................8,988................7,799..............86.8%.........55,212............45,154..........81.8%
BNA..............12,960...............11,861.............91.5%.........57,256............46,477..........81.2%
PIT..................6,848................6,313..............92.2%.........21,828.............17,291.........79.2%
SJC...............12,528..............11,759..............93.9%.........74,520............58,022..........77.9%
CHS................3,852................3,025..............78.5%.........10,700..............8,153..........76.2%
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:56 pm

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:24 pm

Wow! What a beautiful shot.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:58 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Wow! What a beautiful shot.


X2 :o
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:33 am

...now if only it would open. :irked:
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:27 am

It’s a back and forth between BA going daily and the airport opening ? Which will be first lol
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:23 am

The airport for sure. Drain line repairs done by the end of the month. Concessions look nearly done. Still thinking a November opening is very doable.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:34 pm

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The airport for sure. Drain line repairs done by the end of the month. Concessions look nearly done. Still thinking a November opening is very doable.



Im sure you are right .. i did notice all the interstate signs that are planned the cement anchors are all finished... suspect the structure themselves will start being installed over the next month with covers on them that will be taken off for the opening
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:52 pm

DJSNOLA wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
The airport for sure. Drain line repairs done by the end of the month. Concessions look nearly done. Still thinking a November opening is very doable.



Im sure you are right .. i did notice all the interstate signs that are planned the cement anchors are all finished... suspect the structure themselves will start being installed over the next month with covers on them that will be taken off for the opening


Good to hear the anchors are finished. Will have to see if any of the signs start going up when I'm in Kenner next week.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:48 am

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between BA going daily

For which, despite the staff rumors, there doesn't appear to be any tangible evidence. :irked: :(
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:49 pm

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:11 pm

Here's a few more shots I found on the airport website. Everything is coming along nicely.

Larger image of check-in area. Other than check in kiosks, this looks like it's close to completion.
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Departures curb. Looks pretty much complete.
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TSA screening area. Ceiling tiles still need to go in, and screening equipment installed.
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Tree Wall view (elevators are on other side) from arrivals level.
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View looking from Screening area towards the check-in counters and arrivals level and Jazz Garden below. Looks like it's nearly done in this area other than the ceiling tiles behind the check-in counters.
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Baggage Claim. Looks basically complete.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:27 pm

I am flying to MSY this weekend and looking forward to seeing the new terminal. So when the new terminal operns the old terminal remains for what reason? And I guess there is going to be a long bus ride to the CONRAC.?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:55 pm

william wrote:
I am flying to MSY this weekend and looking forward to seeing the new terminal. So when the new terminal operns the old terminal remains for what reason? And I guess there is going to be a long bus ride to the CONRAC.?

The parabola in front of Concourse C (i.e., essentially the only remaining structure from the 1950s) will remain as well as, I think, the entirety of Concourse D (i.e., the newest part), as offices and for GA/charter use.

I would imagine that bus ride to take a good 10 minutes or so at least.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:31 am

Here's the latest aerial shots.

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Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:55 pm

Maybe it means nothing but still seems interesting to me as some confirmation for a return next year. The aiport has condor on the drop off signage for departures in the pics above ... its on the sign with sun country... obviously not a sure thing but one would think if they had any indication they werent returning next summer they wouldnt bother with locating them a space
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:23 pm

Any bets on how long it takes before the East Taxiway is moved and the East side of the North Terminal gets built out?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:30 am

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Any bets on how long it takes before the East Taxiway is moved and the East side of the North Terminal gets built out?

Very doubtful, considering the proximity to multiple taxiways and an active.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:08 am

LAX772LR is correct. The FAA would never allow it due to the proximity to an active runway.. That is why the facility is designed to easily expand further west with another concourse mirroring the layout of B and C as demand warrants
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:24 pm

I thought the original plan was that they could add an A concourse with gates on the tarmac side and a parallel D concourse on the other side of the airport to mirror it as expansion was needed. Is the A concourse wide enough to act as a connector between the main terminal and a new concourse and still have gates?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:09 pm

There was never a Concourse D in any plans I saw. Always the idea of a third concourse to the west for future expansion. A is more than wide enough for passenger through traffic.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:34 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
LAX772LR is correct. The FAA would never allow it due to the proximity to an active runway.. That is why the facility is designed to easily expand further west with another concourse mirroring the layout of B and C as demand warrants


If that’s the case it sounds as if it the terminal will become more inefficient from a security and passenger movement stand point with each westward expansion. You would think that the would have constructed the main terminal in a more central position relative to the concourses if such expansions were considered in either direction.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:02 am

The idea is an entirely new terminal can be constructed to the west, one that mirrors the current one, if demand dictates. The FBOs would have to move. Otherwise, there’s enough land for it.
Spread hope like fire.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:05 am

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You would think that the would have constructed the main terminal in a more central position relative to the concourses if such expansions were considered in either direction.

More non-airport land that they would have to acquire (read that: "pay huge initial fees for") all at once.... versus the option of doing so over years/decades, which is likely the amount of time before yet another terminal is in demand, beyond the potential A expansion.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:09 am

Metrocard wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
LAX772LR is correct. The FAA would never allow it due to the proximity to an active runway.. That is why the facility is designed to easily expand further west with another concourse mirroring the layout of B and C as demand warrants


If that’s the case it sounds as if it the terminal will become more inefficient from a security and passenger movement stand point with each westward expansion. You would think that the would have constructed the main terminal in a more central position relative to the concourses if such expansions were considered in either direction.


That's what I always thought. It was stated all along that expansion to 40+ was planned for. I've heard both that there were plans for short concourses both east and west and that an east one isn't feasible. I'd bet somewhere along the line in the rushed process, either someone miscalculated or FAA changed their position on an east concourse and then they had to change plans to an L shaped addition to concourse A for the future. I haven't heard any good explanation for that being the plan versus a concourse D.

The only other possibility I can think of is if they figured that by the time additional gates are necessary, security and baggage claim will probably be maxed out, so they would have to build an additional terminal to the west.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:26 am

The original proposal did have a third concourse to the east, but (1) it was never official selected, and (2) the expansion was still proposed for the west: the eastern part was set to be an original-build.

http://www.flymsy.com/Images/Interior/map.jpg

And also:

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:14 am

LAX772LR wrote:
More non-airport land that they would have to acquire (read that: "pay huge initial fees for") all at once.... versus the option of doing so over years/decades, which is likely the amount of time before yet another terminal is in demand, beyond the potential A expansion.


With the right planning and foresight it (the initial phase + an additional “finger” and more centralized terminal) could have probably been done in roughly the same footprint, but I guess that would have been too much to ask for.

Eh, oh well.


On another note, does anyone know what the purpose of the surface lot below the departures ramp is? Is it additional short term? Employee? Cell
Phone?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:29 am

Metrocard wrote:
With the right planning and foresight it

K, lemme stop you right there....... you *do* realize that you're referring to Louisiana, do you not?
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:54 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
The original proposal did have a third concourse to the east, but (1) it was never official selected, and (2) the expansion was still proposed for the west: the eastern part was set to be an original-build.

http://www.flymsy.com/Images/Interior/map.jpg

And also:

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So an expansion that mirrors "A" wouldn't be feasible? I haven't seen this graphic, but what I recall was that two expansions were possible, one to the west (which is now "A") and one to the east "D" that was just a straight five gates without a long concourse/atrium.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:23 pm

That surface lot will be used for passenger parking.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:39 pm

Nola wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
The original proposal did have a third concourse to the east, but (1) it was never official selected, and (2) the expansion was still proposed for the west: the eastern part was set to be an original-build.

http://www.flymsy.com/Images/Interior/map.jpg

And also:

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So an expansion that mirrors "A" wouldn't be feasible? I haven't seen this graphic, but what I recall was that two expansions were possible, one to the west (which is now "A") and one to the east "D" that was just a straight five gates without a long concourse/atrium.


If theres an expansion it would be on top of where atlantic is currently.. my guess is in that case a secondary security checkpoint tsa area would be established to service that side
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:40 pm

More confirmation the airport is on schedule to open this Fall but a definitive date isnt set yet



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hard to read in the pic but the airport commented today on facebook:

Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport Hi Charles. The new terminal is set to open this fall. An exact opening date has not yet been announced.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:03 am

Concourse B looks ready to go based on that pic. Good to see.

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