hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/17
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 12:55pm ATL-MCO-ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N140LL)
763: SLC-LAX-SLC ferry flight - aircraft repositioning rotation (N1402A)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 10:00am LAX-DTW-LAX rotation (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:10am ATL-JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N172DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on ATL-GIG-ATL rotation (N177DN)
763ER-high J: scheduled swap from 359 on DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N184DN)
763ER-low J: IND-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N155DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N1200K)
763ER-low J: ATL-IND ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1605)
764: unscheduled swap from 763ER-low J on 7:25pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N836MH)
359: scheduled swap from 763ER-high J on DTW-FRA-DTW rotation (N506DN)

Does anyone know why the DTW-FRA-DTW flight has recently been being switched from 767-300ER to A350-900 and by the same token DTW-AMS-DTW has been having the 767-300ER fly that route? Is there a thought that the A350 is needed to compete better against LH where as DTW-AMS-DTW has less competition?

gsg013 wrote:

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/17
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 12:55pm ATL-MCO-ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N140LL)
763: SLC-LAX-SLC ferry flight - aircraft repositioning rotation (N1402A)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 10:00am LAX-DTW-LAX rotation (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:10am ATL-JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N172DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on ATL-GIG-ATL rotation (N177DN)
763ER-high J: scheduled swap from 359 on DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N184DN)
763ER-low J: IND-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N155DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N1200K)
763ER-low J: ATL-IND ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1605)
764: unscheduled swap from 763ER-low J on 7:25pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N836MH)
359: scheduled swap from 763ER-high J on DTW-FRA-DTW rotation (N506DN)

Does anyone know why the DTW-FRA-DTW flight has recently been being switched from 767-300ER to A350-900 and by the same token DTW-AMS-DTW has been having the 767-300ER fly that route? Is there a thought that the A350 is needed to compete better against LH where as DTW-AMS-DTW has less competition?

This week was press week for the North American International Auto Show. Although fewer German brands were participating this year, it's still a major draw and provided Delta a prime opportunity to upgauge the route and feature their latest products.

timf wrote:

gsg013 wrote:

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/17
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 12:55pm ATL-MCO-ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N140LL)
763: SLC-LAX-SLC ferry flight - aircraft repositioning rotation (N1402A)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 10:00am LAX-DTW-LAX rotation (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:10am ATL-JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N172DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on ATL-GIG-ATL rotation (N177DN)
763ER-high J: scheduled swap from 359 on DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N184DN)
763ER-low J: IND-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N155DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N1200K)
763ER-low J: ATL-IND ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1605)
764: unscheduled swap from 763ER-low J on 7:25pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N836MH)
359: scheduled swap from 763ER-high J on DTW-FRA-DTW rotation (N506DN)

Does anyone know why the DTW-FRA-DTW flight has recently been being switched from 767-300ER to A350-900 and by the same token DTW-AMS-DTW has been having the 767-300ER fly that route? Is there a thought that the A350 is needed to compete better against LH where as DTW-AMS-DTW has less competition?

This week was press week for the North American International Auto Show. Although fewer German brands were participating this year, it's still a major draw and provided Delta a prime opportunity to upgauge the route and feature their latest products.

It could also be related to the cancelled flights earlier in the week. Perhaps Delta is trying to add capacity for affected travelers.

jbmitt wrote:

It could also be related to the cancelled flights earlier in the week. Perhaps Delta is trying to add capacity for affected travelers.

I could see that if they were unscheduled swaps, but these were scheduled swaps which means they've been planned for a while.

timf wrote:

jbmitt wrote:

It could also be related to the cancelled flights earlier in the week. Perhaps Delta is trying to add capacity for affected travelers.

I could see that if they were unscheduled swaps, but these were scheduled swaps which means they've been planned for a while.

Correct. These were loaded last year so definitely related to the Auto Show.

timf wrote:

gsg013 wrote:

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/17
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 12:55pm ATL-MCO-ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N140LL)
763: SLC-LAX-SLC ferry flight - aircraft repositioning rotation (N1402A)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 10:00am LAX-DTW-LAX rotation (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:10am ATL-JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N172DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on ATL-GIG-ATL rotation (N177DN)
763ER-high J: scheduled swap from 359 on DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N184DN)
763ER-low J: IND-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N155DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N1200K)
763ER-low J: ATL-IND ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1605)
764: unscheduled swap from 763ER-low J on 7:25pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N836MH)
359: scheduled swap from 763ER-high J on DTW-FRA-DTW rotation (N506DN)

Does anyone know why the DTW-FRA-DTW flight has recently been being switched from 767-300ER to A350-900 and by the same token DTW-AMS-DTW has been having the 767-300ER fly that route? Is there a thought that the A350 is needed to compete better against LH where as DTW-AMS-DTW has less competition?

This week was press week for the North American International Auto Show. Although fewer German brands were participating this year, it's still a major draw and provided Delta a prime opportunity to upgauge the route and feature their latest products.

Thank you that makes a lot of sense. Similar to how DL swapped some flights and added additional flights into LAS with the A350-900 for the CES in Vegas.

timf wrote:

This week was press week for the North American International Auto Show. Although fewer German brands were participating this year, it's still a major draw and provided Delta a prime opportunity to upgauge the route and feature their latest products.

Or, just provide more coach and Y+ seats. DL isn't going to get German auto suppliers (Bosch, Continental, ZF, BASF, Schaeffler...) out of their LH contracts.

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/18
763: ATL-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N140LL)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 9:45am MSP-MCO-MSP rotation (N140LL)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 6:35pm MSP-ANC-MSP rotation (N140LL)
763: SLC-FAI military charter (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:30am JFK-LAS-JFK rotation (N172DN)
763ER-low J: HNL-FUK flight cancelled - tech (N173DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 738 on 1:05pm SEA-SLC-SEA rotation (N1605)
332: unscheduled swap from 333 on 3:49pm DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N858NW)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 7:25pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N839MH)
7HB: DTW-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N706DN)
7HB: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-PVG-ATL rotation (N706DN)

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/19
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 9:45am MSP-MCO-MSP rotation (N140LL)
763: FAI-RIV-LAX military charter (N1402A)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 10:10am LAX-MCO-LAX rotation (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 8:40am JFK-ATL flight (N172DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-HNL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N181DN)
763ER-low J: HNL-FUK rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N173DZ)
332: unscheduled swap from 333 on LHR-JFK-LHR rotation (N859NW)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on 5:55pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N843MH)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on LHR-ATL-LHR rotation (N808NW/N817NW)

As we hit the lull in the winter schedule, I've put together a few tables summarizing DL's widebody fleet usage for W18-19.
The tables should look very different next year with the addition of the 339 fleet as well as the 4 Class Delta Suites 777/764s.
Delta has released a preliminary W19-20 schedule. Nothing worthy of mention so far.

Didn’t DL operate an A333 MSP-CUN last winter?

The BOTTOM LINE.... no 787, 77W, and now NOMORE 350 back to 333. So is the 777 the FLAGSHIP?

xdlx wrote:

The BOTTOM LINE.... no 787, 77W, and now NOMORE 350 back to 333. So is the 777 the FLAGSHIP?

Huh? I swear there’s more and more incoherent babble on here every day. How is the A350 no more?

Jeremy

lavalampluva wrote:

Didn’t DL operate an A333 MSP-CUN last winter?

Yes they did. Although not regularly throughout the Winter scheduled.
Other routes that were operated regularly by widebody last year but narrowbody this year incl.:
ATL-DEN (764 -> 739)
ATL-LAX 11am (764 -> 321)
ATL-MCO (764 -> 752)
JFK-SFO 7pm (763ER -> 75W)

What about SLC to HNL? Flight Aware shows that as an A330.

SUNCTRY738 wrote:

What about SLC to HNL? Flight Aware shows that as an A330.

its in both tables. the routing is actually ATL-SLC-HNL.

I see it now hkcanadaexpat. I was looking for it under SLC. Thank you for your work, I always enjoy the data and updates!

lavalampluva wrote:

Didn’t DL operate an A333 MSP-CUN last winter?

Yep! This year seems to be all A321's for CUN.

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/20
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 9:45am MSP-MCO-MSP rotation (N140LL)
763: LAX-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1402A)
763ER-low J: scheduled swap from 333 on 7am JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N186DN)
763ER-low J: NRT-OSN-IWK-NRT military charter (N172DZ)
763ER-low J: HNL-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N173DZ)
764: scheduled swap from 772 on ATL-CDG-ATL rotation (N838MH)
7HB: unscheduled swap from 7HD on ATL-CDG-MSP rotation (N706DN)

SESGDL wrote:

xdlx wrote:

The BOTTOM LINE.... no 787, 77W, and now NOMORE 350 back to 333. So is the 777 the FLAGSHIP?

Huh? I swear there’s more and more incoherent babble on here every day. How is the A350 no more?

Jeremy

I don`t even give them the time of day anymore...

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/21
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 5:30pm SEA-HNL-SEA rotation (N154DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on 4:43pm MSP-ATL flight (N156DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 11:25am JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N186DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on 2:00pm ATL-MSP flight (N199DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:10am ATL-JFK-ATL rotation (N173DZ)
339: N401DZ rolled out of paint @ TLS, delivery expected 04/19
7HB: unscheduled swap from 7HD on MSP-CDG-ATL rotation (N706DN)
359: N512DN performed its customer acceptance flight @ TLS, delivery expected 01/19

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/22
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 8:55am MSP-LAX-MSP rotation (N140LL)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 7:15pm MSP-MCO-MSP rotation (N140LL)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 10:20pm (1/21) ATL-BOS-ATL-TPA-ATL rotation (N1402A)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N186DN)
763ER-low J: JFK-IND ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1200K)
763ER-low J: IND-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N175DZ)
332: LOS-JFK flight cancelled - tech (N852NW)
333: 8:20pm DTW-AMS flight cancelled - weather (N809NW)
333: 3:30pm AMS-DTW flight diverted to CDG - weather (N814NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 8:58am ATL-BOS-ATL rotation (N819NW)
359: DTW-ICN flight cancelled - tech (N503DN)
359: DTW-AMS flight cancelled - weather (N505DN)

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

333: 3:30pm AMS-DTW flight diverted to CDG - weather (N814NW)

That should read:

333: 3:30pm AMS-DTW flight diverted to CVG - weather (N814NW)

[quote="hkcanadaexpat"]Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/22

333: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 8:58am ATL-BOS-ATL rotation (N819NW)

Can anyone explain what this upgrade was about? I would have figured it would have just done 1 leg ATL-BOS to then go on to Europe from BOS but what is the reason for sending the A330-300 up to boston and then back to Atlanta? I am guessing the A321 went tech and the A330-300 was the best match that was available as a spare?

gsg013 wrote:

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/22

333: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 8:58am ATL-BOS-ATL rotation (N819NW)

Can anyone explain what this upgrade was about? I would have figured it would have just done 1 leg ATL-BOS to then go on to Europe from BOS but what is the reason for sending the A330-300 up to boston and then back to Atlanta? I am guessing the A321 went tech and the A330-300 was the best match that was available as a spare?

It might also be due to the WX-related issues in Boston over the last few days that have led to significant delays and cancellations.

PotatoPappas wrote:

SESGDL wrote:

xdlx wrote:

The BOTTOM LINE.... no 787, 77W, and now NOMORE 350 back to 333. So is the 777 the FLAGSHIP?

Huh? I swear there’s more and more incoherent babble on here every day. How is the A350 no more?

Jeremy

I don`t even give them the time of day anymore...

Remember when this was a paysite? Coherent, factual and simply brilliant discussions on every topic. To PotatoPappas - What you wrote wasnt even a sentence, please elaborate?

Looks like N504DN is subbing for another aircraft on flight 1239 Detroit-Atlanta to fly to Seoul later tonight. Guess the inbound from Seoul went tech or something.

Samrnpage wrote:

PotatoPappas wrote:

SESGDL wrote:

Huh? I swear there’s more and more incoherent babble on here every day. How is the A350 no more?

Jeremy

I don`t even give them the time of day anymore...

Remember when this was a paysite? Coherent, factual and simply brilliant discussions on every topic. To PotatoPappas - What you wrote wasnt even a sentence, please elaborate?

Elaborating... The people that post "incoherent babble" is who I'm talking about. I'm saying I ignore them.. (I don't give them the time of day anymore). Its not worth giving them the attention.

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/23
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 11:15am MSP-RSW-MSP-MCO-MSP rotation (N140LL)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 1:55pm ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:10am ATL-JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N175DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-GIG flight - maintenance exit [8 days] (N187DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional ATL-MCO flight (N189DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N169DZ)
332: LOS-JFK rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N852NW)
7HB: unscheduled upgrade from 320 on 1:40pm ATL-DTW flight (N706DN)
7HB: unscheduled swap from 359 on DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N706DN)
333: DTW-AMS rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N809NW)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on JFK-LHR-JFK rotation (N810NW)
333: CVG-DTW ferry flight following previous day's diversion (N814NW)
359: unscheduled upgrade from 320 on 7:25pm DTW-ATL flight (N504DN)
359: ICN-DTW flight diverted to MSP - weather (N509DN)

[quote="hkcanadaexpat"]As we hit the lull in the winter schedule, I've put together a few tables summarizing DL's widebody fleet usage for W18-19.
The tables should look very different next year with the addition of the 339 fleet as well as the 4 Class Delta Suites 777/764s.
Delta has released a preliminary W19-20 schedule. Nothing worthy of mention so far.



[/quote

@hkcanadaexpat:

You are the F***ing MAN! Thank you for your contributions sir and for keeping this going on your spare time!! The UAL Thread is a mile long, but I really look forward to this Thread. Thank you again my friend!

N512DN, the next A359, is scheduled for delivery to ATL on Saturday morning.

Hopefully this extra A350 give a little slack to push thru the refurbishments quicker...

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

N512DN, the next A359, is scheduled for delivery to ATL on Saturday morning.

TropicalSky wrote:

Hopefully this extra A350 give a little slack to push thru the refurbishments quicker...

Slack is not an issue in the lull of winter. Refurbishment/maintenance stations are the issue and need to be booked long in advance. For this winter, DL has booked 2 stations in SIN to do 777 mods, 4 in CAN that are doing heavy maintenance as well as the prototype 764 mod, 1 in PVG doing heavy maintenance and new to this year ILN/MIA stations also doing heavy maintenance. Until May arrives, you can expect to see 777s with mods roll out SIN every ~30 days. Come the Fall of 2019, SIN will continue with the remaining 77Ls and 4x CAN stations will work full time on the 764 mods.

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/24
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 9:40am MSP-SEA-MSP rotation (N140LL)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 8:15am ATL-LAS-ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 7:30am JFK-ATL rotation (N175DN)
763ER-low J: HNL-EDF-HNL military charter (N180DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-HHN-KWI-XJD-HHN-BWI-ATL military charter (N188DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 6:45am JFK-SLC flight (N199DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N169DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 11:35am SLC-JFK flight (N176DZ)
332: unscheduled swap from 333 on JFK-BCN-JFK rotation (N852NW)
764: ATL-EZE flight - maintenance exit [6 days] (N825MH)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 7:25pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N835MH)
7HB: unscheduled swap from 359 on DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N706DN)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on JFK-LHR-JFK rotation (N810NW)

Ok understood! Would next winter also see the 330&763 mods start? They tend to be worked on heavily during the the winter...

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

TropicalSky wrote:

Hopefully this extra A350 give a little slack to push thru the refurbishments quicker...

Slack is not an issue in the lull of winter. Refurbishment/maintenance stations are the issue and need to be booked long in advance. For this winter, DL has booked 2 stations in SIN to do 777 mods, 4 in CAN that are doing heavy maintenance as well as the prototype 764 mod, 1 in PVG doing heavy maintenance and new to this year ILN/MIA stations also doing heavy maintenance. Until May arrives, you can expect to see 777s with mods roll out SIN every ~30 days. Come the Fall of 2019, SIN will continue with the remaining 77Ls and 4x CAN stations will work full time on the 764 mods.

If the first route for Delta’s A330-900neo is going to be SEA-Asia, which route will it be? With the exception of SEA-NRT switching to an Airbus A350-900 soon, and the return of SEA-KIX using a 226-seat Boeing 767-300ER, just about every route Delta has from SEA-Asia uses a 206-seat Boeing 767-300ER. Unless those flights constantly fill up constantly and need more capacity, I don’t see why those routes would need a 281-seat Airbus A330-900neo. If Delta really wants to send the A330-900neo to Asia, they should pick a route like LAX-HND, which uses a 293-seat A330-300. A plane with a much more similar capacity to the A339 than the B763.

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/25
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 10:00am MSP-TPA-MSP rotation (N140LL)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on ATL-GIG-ATL rotation (N174DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 6:56pm ATL-MCO flight (N187DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N169DZ)
332: unscheduled swap from 333 on 3:49pm DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N858NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 2:10pm MSP-MCO-MSP rotation (N813NW)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on DTW-LHR-DTW rotation (N816NW)

Should start seeing extra sections with A330s on the ATL-AMS routes until further notice, as they are covering for KLM and an apparent shortage of planes.

777Mech wrote:

Should start seeing extra sections with A330s on the ATL-AMS routes until further notice, as they are covering for KLM and an apparent shortage of planes.

How is this working if you were booked on KLM going AMS-ATL will you be swapped over to the extra DL A330 flight?

TropicalSky wrote:

Ok understood! Would next winter also see the 330&763 mods start? They tend to be worked on heavily during the the winter...

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

TropicalSky wrote:

Hopefully this extra A350 give a little slack to push thru the refurbishments quicker...

Slack is not an issue in the lull of winter. Refurbishment/maintenance stations are the issue and need to be booked long in advance. For this winter, DL has booked 2 stations in SIN to do 777 mods, 4 in CAN that are doing heavy maintenance as well as the prototype 764 mod, 1 in PVG doing heavy maintenance and new to this year ILN/MIA stations also doing heavy maintenance. Until May arrives, you can expect to see 777s with mods roll out SIN every ~30 days. Come the Fall of 2019, SIN will continue with the remaining 77Ls and 4x CAN stations will work full time on the 764 mods.

Are the 763s getting anything? I heard a rumor they were getting PE but that was all....

PotatoPappas wrote:

TropicalSky wrote:

Ok understood! Would next winter also see the 330&763 mods start? They tend to be worked on heavily during the the winter...

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Slack is not an issue in the lull of winter. Refurbishment/maintenance stations are the issue and need to be booked long in advance. For this winter, DL has booked 2 stations in SIN to do 777 mods, 4 in CAN that are doing heavy maintenance as well as the prototype 764 mod, 1 in PVG doing heavy maintenance and new to this year ILN/MIA stations also doing heavy maintenance. Until May arrives, you can expect to see 777s with mods roll out SIN every ~30 days. Come the Fall of 2019, SIN will continue with the remaining 77Ls and 4x CAN stations will work full time on the 764 mods.

Are the 763s getting anything? I heard a rumor they were getting PE but that was all....

I thought the Suites were supposed to become standard across Delta’s entire widebody fleet by the end of 2021. Then again, the 763s will not be around long term.

NateGreat wrote:

PotatoPappas wrote:

TropicalSky wrote:

Ok understood! Would next winter also see the 330&763 mods start? They tend to be worked on heavily during the the winter...

Are the 763s getting anything? I heard a rumor they were getting PE but that was all....

I thought the Suites were supposed to become standard across Delta’s entire widebody fleet by the end of 2021. Then again, the 763s will not be around long term.

Ed Bastian said in an interview during the summer that the entire international fleet will receive the suite product (though someone here said there may be a very similar version without a door for the 767).

The 763 may not be here long term but Delta relies so heavily on the 763 fleet (with a Delta One product that is inferior to the rest of the Delta fleet), I don't think they have a choice but to replace the seats. The current Delta 767 business class seat is simply not competitive to UAs 787/777/767 or AAs 787/777 seat, which will drag down the perception of the entire Delta One product.

If the 767s end up being replaced by the 797, the majority will be around well after 2025.

CMH2578 wrote:

NateGreat wrote:

PotatoPappas wrote:

Are the 763s getting anything? I heard a rumor they were getting PE but that was all....

I thought the Suites were supposed to become standard across Delta’s entire widebody fleet by the end of 2021. Then again, the 763s will not be around long term.

Ed Bastian said in an interview during the summer that the entire international fleet will receive the suite product (though someone here said there may be a very similar version without a door for the 767).

The 763 may not be here long term but Delta relies so heavily on the 763 fleet (with a Delta One product that is inferior to the rest of the Delta fleet), I don't think they have a choice but to replace the seats. The current Delta 767 business class seat is simply not competitive to UAs 787/777/767 or AAs 787/777 seat, which will drag down the perception of the entire Delta One product.

If the 767s end up being replaced by the 797, the majority will be around well after 2025.

Too bad DL ended up cancelling NW's order for the B788s! They should've just postponed the order until the battery issues were fixed, and then proceeded with the deliveries which would now be ready for the D1 Suites!

audidudi wrote:

CMH2578 wrote:

NateGreat wrote:

I thought the Suites were supposed to become standard across Delta’s entire widebody fleet by the end of 2021. Then again, the 763s will not be around long term.

Ed Bastian said in an interview during the summer that the entire international fleet will receive the suite product (though someone here said there may be a very similar version without a door for the 767).

The 763 may not be here long term but Delta relies so heavily on the 763 fleet (with a Delta One product that is inferior to the rest of the Delta fleet), I don't think they have a choice but to replace the seats. The current Delta 767 business class seat is simply not competitive to UAs 787/777/767 or AAs 787/777 seat, which will drag down the perception of the entire Delta One product.

If the 767s end up being replaced by the 797, the majority will be around well after 2025.

Too bad DL ended up cancelling NW's order for the B788s! They should've just postponed the order until the battery issues were fixed, and then proceeded with the deliveries which would now be ready for the D1 Suites!

They picked the A330neo instead of the B787 and orders begin delivering this year. They had no need for the 787 order.

cvgComair wrote:

audidudi wrote:

CMH2578 wrote:

Ed Bastian said in an interview during the summer that the entire international fleet will receive the suite product (though someone here said there may be a very similar version without a door for the 767).

The 763 may not be here long term but Delta relies so heavily on the 763 fleet (with a Delta One product that is inferior to the rest of the Delta fleet), I don't think they have a choice but to replace the seats. The current Delta 767 business class seat is simply not competitive to UAs 787/777/767 or AAs 787/777 seat, which will drag down the perception of the entire Delta One product.

If the 767s end up being replaced by the 797, the majority will be around well after 2025.

Too bad DL ended up cancelling NW's order for the B788s! They should've just postponed the order until the battery issues were fixed, and then proceeded with the deliveries which would now be ready for the D1 Suites!

They picked the A330neo instead of the B787 and orders begin delivering this year. They had no need for the 787 order.

Maybe not for that particular 787 order, but they really do need the 787. It would be much better for their Asia routes out of their SEA, LAX, SLC and even MSP hubs. The A330neo has too much capacity for a lot of those routes and isn't quite as efficient. Not that the A330neo doesn't have a place in the fleet, it's great for their hub to hub TATL markets. However, if I were DL, I'd replace the remaining 767's with 788's and the NMA/797.

Maybe Delta should have ordered the 338 instead of the 339 for the West Coast to Asia routes. A 338 should be able to do almost everything a 788 can.

CASM shortfall on 339 relative to 789 is not too bad, but CASM on 338 relative to 788 is. That is the main reason why there is only one customer for A338

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/26
763: MSP-LSV-GSB-ATL military charter (N140LL)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 10:51am ATL-SLC-ATL rotation (N1402A)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on 3:25pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N169DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 9:25am MCO-ATL flight (N177DZ)
332: unscheduled swap from 333 on LHR-JFK-LHR rotation (N857NW/N859NW)
7HB: DTW-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N706DN)
7HB: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-AMS-ATL rotation (N706DN)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on LHR-ATL-LHR rotation (N807NW/N810NW)
333: scheduled swap from KLM on ATL-AMS-ATL rotation (N810NW)
333: DTW-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N821NW)
359: TLS-ATL delivery flight (N512DN)

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/27
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 10:51am ATL-SLC-ATL-LAS-ATL rotation (N1402A)
763ER-high J: ATL-ILN ferry flight - maintenance entry (N184DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional MCO-ATL flight (N154DL)
763ER-low J: SLC-CDG flight cancelled - tech (N181DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled swap from 333 on 7am JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N186DN)
764: scheduled swap from 772 on ATL-CDG-ATL rotation (N831MH)
764: AMS-JFK flight cancelled - tech (N839MH)
764: ATL-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N842MH)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 6:45am JFK-SLC-JFK rotation (N843MH)
7HD: MSP-ATL ferry flight - maintenance entry/conversion to 4 class cabin -> 7CD (N866DA)
333: scheduled swap from KLM on ATL-AMS-ATL rotation (N810NW)
333: scheduled swap from 764 on 8:15am JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N831NW)

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 1/27
764: AMS-JFK flight cancelled - tech (N839MH)

There is potentially more to this story. Unconfirmed so take it with a grain of salt until you hear otherwise.
https://nltimes.nl/2019/01/28/flight-sc ... xRUuM8ib_E