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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:54 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 7/9
764: scheduled additional DTW-ATL-DTW rotation on Tuesdays effective 7/9 (N842MH)
764: 5:45pm ATL-SEA-ATL rotation on Tuesdays migrates from 739 effective 7/9 (N842MH)

According to FR24, N842MH flew DTW>ATL one-way yesterday, but not the return, as it then flew the ATL>SEA>ATL rotation, as you correctly wrote. So will the first leg of this additional DTW>ATL>DTW rotation on Tuesdays always be flown by a B764, but not the return leg, or was this just an exception yesterday?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 pm

cessna2 wrote:
Looks like SEA-PVG on the A330NEO is starting tomorrow. About five days early.


I saw that! I can't believe that no one has done a cabin reveal on this, considering the reconfigured A330 will be the most common international ride for the next 20 years at DL. Has anyone seen anything?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:55 pm

TW870 wrote:
cessna2 wrote:
Looks like SEA-PVG on the A330NEO is starting tomorrow. About five days early.


I saw that! I can't believe that no one has done a cabin reveal on this, considering the reconfigured A330 will be the most common international ride for the next 20 years at DL. Has anyone seen anything?



Some pics of the cabin here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deltanews ... 557869132/

Press release
https://news.delta.com/delta-launches-a ... eattle-and
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:22 pm

Once the 767-300ERs are all gone (which will be a few years down the line for the later ones), Delta is going to have to equip another aircraft for leisure routes with low premium demand. I suspect it should be a relatively small aircraft, maybe the 797 if it comes to fruition, or otherwise the 764 or 332 fleet in its later years.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:41 am

panamair wrote:
TW870 wrote:
cessna2 wrote:
Looks like SEA-PVG on the A330NEO is starting tomorrow. About five days early.


I saw that! I can't believe that no one has done a cabin reveal on this, considering the reconfigured A330 will be the most common international ride for the next 20 years at DL. Has anyone seen anything?



Some pics of the cabin here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deltanews ... 557869132/

Press release
https://news.delta.com/delta-launches-a ... eattle-and


The A330neo Delta One Suites seem to have been refined from the A350/777 design, and is more in line with the aesthetics of the 767-400 Delta One Seats.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:32 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 7/10
763ER-high J(T): RDU-CDG route migrates effective 7/6 (N1609)
763ER-high J(T): unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 12:00pm SEA-OGG-SEA rotation (N1612T)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 11:58am JFK-ATL-JFK rotation (N186DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high J on JFK-FRA-ATL rotation (N169DZ)
763ER-low J: JFK-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1603)
332: DTW-AMS-DTW rescue flights following previous day's cancellation (N856NW)
764: 9:45am ATL-SEA-ATL rotation on Wednesdays migrates from 753 effective 7/10 (N842MH)
339: SEA-PVG route migrates from 763ER-high J(T) effective 7/10 (N401DZ)
7CB: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-PVG-ATL rotation (N705DN)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on ATL-LHR-ATL rotation (N817NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:38 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

332: DTW-AMS-DTW rescue flights following previous day's cancellation (N856NW)


Bringing DTW-AMS to 5x today:

- DL 132 AIRBUS A350-900 Delta Air Lines N512DN
- DL 134 AIRBUS A330-300 Delta Air Lines N820NW
- DL 136 AIRBUS A330-300 Delta Air Lines N802NW
- DL 138 AIRBUS A330-300 Delta Air Lines N811NW
- DL 9908 AIRBUS A330-200 Delta Air Lines N856NW
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:52 pm

AdEd wrote:
panamair wrote:
TW870 wrote:

I saw that! I can't believe that no one has done a cabin reveal on this, considering the reconfigured A330 will be the most common international ride for the next 20 years at DL. Has anyone seen anything?



Some pics of the cabin here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deltanews ... 557869132/

Press release
https://news.delta.com/delta-launches-a ... eattle-and


The A330neo Delta One Suites seem to have been refined from the A350/777 design, and is more in line with the aesthetics of the 767-400 Delta One Seats.

The thing that stands out to me is the door is a separate piece and not part of the actual seat assembly as it is on the A350 and 777. The rest of the seat appears to be identical to the 767-400.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:16 pm

panamair wrote:
TW870 wrote:
cessna2 wrote:
Looks like SEA-PVG on the A330NEO is starting tomorrow. About five days early.


I saw that! I can't believe that no one has done a cabin reveal on this, considering the reconfigured A330 will be the most common international ride for the next 20 years at DL. Has anyone seen anything?



Some pics of the cabin here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deltanews ... 557869132/

Press release
https://news.delta.com/delta-launches-a ... eattle-and


Very nice looking cabin in all four classes of service! I do like that Delta differentiates Comfort+ with the stitching and red accents - unlike AA where there's no visible distinction other than a little extra leg room.
"FLY DELTA JETS"
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:30 pm

The second A339 is enroute to KSEA do its part onward to PVG
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N402DX
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:30 pm

Dangit, I was on a meeting in the wrong side of the building and missed its arrival!

The PVG-SEA flight arrives before I usually get to work, so seeing a 339 out the window will still be a rare treat for a little while.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:19 pm

timf wrote:
AdEd wrote:
panamair wrote:


The A330neo Delta One Suites seem to have been refined from the A350/777 design, and is more in line with the aesthetics of the 767-400 Delta One Seats.

The thing that stands out to me is the door is a separate piece and not part of the actual seat assembly as it is on the A350 and 777. The rest of the seat appears to be identical to the 767-400.


It has the trim and finish of the 767-400 but it is based on the Vantage XL whereas the 767-400 is the regular vantage so similar but much larger space.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:22 pm

The 339neo Delta1 seat looks slightly less box than the 359. I like the new trim. The 767-400 is definitely more welcoming than the 359 but without a door so good direction.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:07 am

I've noticed the past 2 days the A339 cruise pretty high on initial climb out of Ksea....yesterday was Fl360 and today is Fl380....those improvements are working wonderfully
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:58 am

panamair wrote:


The smaller space to work with is noticeable. Seat looks fairly narrow, and the foot cubbies are a worry point. Also the storage situation doesn't look promising.

I'd call it a Vantage X--halfway between the XL and original. Be interesting to read some reviews.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:03 am

TropicalSky wrote:
I've noticed the past 2 days the A339 cruise pretty high on initial climb out of Ksea....yesterday was Fl360 and today is Fl380....those improvements are working wonderfully


It has a big wing, a lot of thrust, and likely on these flights a lot of MTOW headroom. Today's big twins in general have impressive climb performance and tend to fly high. If you cruise around Flightradar24 looking for airliners at FL400/410 you'll see a lot of A330s and 787s.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:47 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 7/11
763ER-high J(T): unscheduled swap from low-J on SEA-AMS-SEA rotation (N1607B)
763ER-high J: JFK-DTW ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N172DN)
763ER-low J: TPA-AMS rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N152DL)
763ER-low J: JFK-FRA rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N169DZ)
332: DTW-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N851NW)
332: ATL-DTW ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N854NW)
764: 7:15pm JFK-LAX flight diverted to MSP - medical? (N836MH)
339: ATL-SEA ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N402DX)
339: first commercial flight of aircraft as DL589 SEA-PVG (N402DX)
77L: unscheduled swap from 7CB on ATL-NRT-ATL rotation (N701DN)
77L: PVG-ATL flight diverted to SEA - medical? (N708DN)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on ATL-LHR-ATL rotation (N817NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:28 am

Any idea what N828MH has been doing in MSP since 6/25, or what its next move is and when?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:01 am

MSPNWA wrote:
panamair wrote:


The smaller space to work with is noticeable. Seat looks fairly narrow, and the foot cubbies are a worry point. Also the storage situation doesn't look promising.

I'd call it a Vantage X--halfway between the XL and original. Be interesting to read some reviews.

The fleet section of the Delta app states that the D1 Suite on the 339 has a seat width of 29 in, while the D1 seat on the refurbished 764 has a seat width of 20 in. Comparing photos, the D1 Suite on the 339 appears to be the exact same seat as the new D1 product for the refurbished 764, but with sliding doors attached.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:42 am

NateGreat wrote:
The fleet section of the Delta app states that the D1 Suite on the 339 has a seat width of 29 in, while the D1 seat on the refurbished 764 has a seat width of 20 in. Comparing photos, the D1 Suite on the 339 appears to be the exact same seat as the new D1 product for the refurbished 764, but with sliding doors attached.


The 29in for the A339 was a typo. It has been changed now to 23.3 in. Both the A359 and 777s are listed as 22-24 in, with the center seats being slightly narrower than the single seats on each side.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:04 am

MSPNWA wrote:
panamair wrote:


The smaller space to work with is noticeable. Seat looks fairly narrow, and the foot cubbies are a worry point. Als o the storage situation doesn't look promising.

I'd call it a Vantage X--halfway between the XL and original. Be interesting to read some reviews.


It’s definitely a XL. Same one Qantas operates just with different trim and a door added on the exterior making the aisles slightly narrower. It’s actually better designed space with less “blank space” like there is on 359 and 777 behind the passengers head. Same storage as the 359 and 777- which was more than adequate on my last flight. Do you feel all of those negative things about the 350 and 777 as the 339 will actually be less narrow due to the redesign.

To veer off topic slightly- why are you super critical to DL I’ve never read a positive comment about the company from you.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:07 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 7/12
763ER-high J(T): unscheduled swap from low-J on SEA-AMS-SEA rotation (N1607B)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 8:30am JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N186DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 3:00pm ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N188DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 7:00am ATL-LAS-ATL rotation (N195DN)
763ER-low J: ZRH-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N1605)
333: ATL-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N801NW)
333: MXP-JFK flight cancelled - tech (N813NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:49 pm

N828MH, the first refurbished 764, is flying its first revenue service on DL2346 JFK-LAX.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N828MH
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:27 pm

AdEd wrote:
N828MH, the first refurbished 764, is flying its first revenue service on DL2346 JFK-LAX.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N828MH

From there, he’s gonna head back to JFK, before doing another JFK-LAX-JFK rotation tomorrow.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:17 am

This article by The Points Guy provides a rather in-depth look at Delta’s new 767-400 cabin. I think it’s a great improvement over the old/pre-existing 767-400 cabin.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/aboard-de ... one-seats/
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:50 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 7/12
763ER-high J(T): unscheduled swap from low-J on SEA-AMS-SEA rotation (N1607B)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 8:30am JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N186DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 3:00pm ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N188DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 7:00am ATL-LAS-ATL rotation (N195DN)
763ER-low J: ZRH-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N1605)
333: ATL-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N801NW)
333: MXP-JFK flight cancelled - tech (N813NW)

hkcanadaexpat, we miss you!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:04 am

Anyone know what happened to DAL2341, JFK-ATL on N828MH? Unless FR24 is drunk, it shows the aircraft departing JFK, flying as far as Trenton, NJ and then turning back and landing at JFK.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:39 pm

maddogjt8d wrote:
Anyone know what happened to DAL2341, JFK-ATL on N828MH? Unless FR24 is drunk, it shows the aircraft departing JFK, flying as far as Trenton, NJ and then turning back and landing at JFK.

And FlightAware shows the same thing, so it obviously diverted back to JFK, but why? According to DL.com, it is boarding and now has a departure time of 11.30 EDT, which is 5h 30m late.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N828MH
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:30 pm

audidudi wrote:
maddogjt8d wrote:
Anyone know what happened to DAL2341, JFK-ATL on N828MH? Unless FR24 is drunk, it shows the aircraft departing JFK, flying as far as Trenton, NJ and then turning back and landing at JFK.

And FlightAware shows the same thing, so it obviously diverted back to JFK, but why? According to DL.com, it is boarding and now has a departure time of 11.30 EDT, which is 5h 30m late.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N828MH

Latest update now shows a departure time of 12.40 EDT, still shows as "Boarding" and naturally subject to change!
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:18 am

Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.

07/15-07/21 Period

Highlights
> Inaugural commercial service on refurbished 764 aircraft. N828MH flew a couple JFK-LAX turns, helping out the 764 fleet which was stretched due to technical and weather issues
> Weather event caused diversions at ATL afternoon of 7/17 with DUB/MXP-ATL flights diverting to CAE, NRT-ATL flight diverting to BNA and PVG-ATL flight diverting to HSV
> Weather event hampered operations at JFK on the evening of 7/17 with 2+hr delays seen on ACC, AMS, BCN, DUB, GRU, LAX, LHR, LOS, PRG and TLV departures
> More weather issues at JFK on 7/18 with 2+hr delays on ACC, AMS, ATH, BCN, BRU, CDG, CPH, FCO, LAX, LHR, MAD, NCE, TXL and ZRH departures
> Detroit joined the weather party on 7/19; diversions to AMS/FRA/NGO-DTW (TOL), CDG-DTW (DAY) and PEK-DTW (CMH) inbound flights as well as lengthy delays on AMS, CDG, FCO, LHR, MUC and PVG

Statistics at 7/21
Total Fleet: 152
Scheduled Service: 145/152
Spares: 7/152 (2x76T, 2x76Z, 1x764, 1x77L, 1x333)
Conversion: 0/152
Maintenance: 0/152
Storage: 0/152

Unscheduled upgrades from narrowbody fleet
7/15: SEA-OGG-SEA
7/17: DTW-MCO-DTW
7/18: DTW-ATL-DTW, SEA-LAX-SEA
7/19: ATL-LAS-ATL
7/20: ATL-FLL-ATL
7/21: JFK-ATL, ATL-JFK

Unscheduled swaps from other widebody types
7/15: FRA-JFK
7/16: ATL-FRA, DTW-AMS, PDX-NRT
7/17: AMS-DTW, ATL-VCE, FRA-DTW, NRT-PDX
7/18: ATL-LHR, ATL-VCE, CDG-CVG-CDG, DTW-FRA, JFK-LAX-JFK, SEA-KIX, VCE-ATL
7/19: FRA-ATL-MUC, JFK-LAX-JFK, KIX-SEA, VCE-ATL
7/20: FRA-JFK-FRA, JFK-LHR, MUC-ATL
7/21: ATL-CDG, ATL-MUC, CDG-DTW-MUC, FRA-ATL, JFK-LAX-JFK, LHR-JFK

Noteworthy Diversions
7/15: AMS-DTW -> BGR (medical), AMS-MSP -> FAR (weather)
7/17: LHR-JFK -> BOS (weather), SCL-ATL -> PTY (medical)
7/18: ATL-EZE -> MVD (weather)
7/20: SLC-CDG -> YYR (medical)

Flight Cancellations
7/15: DTW-LHR
7/17: ATL-DUB, JFK-VCE, PDX-LHR, TXL-JFK
7/18: RDU-CDG
7/19: LHR-ATL
7/20: LAX-PVG, VCE-JFK
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:24 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.

07/15-07/21 Period

Highlights
> Inaugural commercial service on refurbished 764 aircraft. N828MH flew a couple JFK-LAX turns, helping out the 764 fleet which was stretched due to technical and weather issues
> Weather event caused diversions at ATL afternoon of 7/17 with DUB/MXP-ATL flights diverting to CAE, NRT-ATL flight diverting to BNA and PVG-ATL flight diverting to HSV
> Weather event hampered operations at JFK on the evening of 7/17 with 2+hr delays seen on ACC, AMS, BCN, DUB, GRU, LAX, LHR, LOS, PRG and TLV departures
> More weather issues at JFK on 7/18 with 2+hr delays on ACC, AMS, ATH, BCN, BRU, CDG, CPH, FCO, LAX, LHR, MAD, NCE, TXL and ZRH departures
> Detroit joined the weather party on 7/19; diversions to AMS/FRA/NGO-DTW (TOL), CDG-DTW (DAY) and PEK-DTW (CMH) inbound flights as well as lengthy delays on AMS, CDG, FCO, LHR, MUC and PVG

Statistics at 7/21
Total Fleet: 152
Scheduled Service: 145/152
Spares: 7/152 (2x76T, 2x76Z, 1x764, 1x77L, 1x333)
Conversion: 0/152
Maintenance: 0/152
Storage: 0/152

Unscheduled upgrades from narrowbody fleet
7/15: SEA-OGG-SEA
7/17: DTW-MCO-DTW
7/18: DTW-ATL-DTW, SEA-LAX-SEA
7/19: ATL-LAS-ATL
7/20: ATL-FLL-ATL
7/21: JFK-ATL, ATL-JFK

Unscheduled swaps from other widebody types
7/15: FRA-JFK
7/16: ATL-FRA, DTW-AMS, PDX-NRT
7/17: AMS-DTW, ATL-VCE, FRA-DTW, NRT-PDX
7/18: ATL-LHR, ATL-VCE, CDG-CVG-CDG, DTW-FRA, JFK-LAX-JFK, SEA-KIX, VCE-ATL
7/19: FRA-ATL-MUC, JFK-LAX-JFK, KIX-SEA, VCE-ATL
7/20: FRA-JFK-FRA, JFK-LHR, MUC-ATL
7/21: ATL-CDG, ATL-MUC, CDG-DTW-MUC, FRA-ATL, JFK-LAX-JFK, LHR-JFK

Noteworthy Diversions
7/15: AMS-DTW -> BGR (medical), AMS-MSP -> FAR (weather)
7/17: LHR-JFK -> BOS (weather), SCL-ATL -> PTY (medical)
7/18: ATL-EZE -> MVD (weather)
7/20: SLC-CDG -> YYR (medical)

Flight Cancellations
7/15: DTW-LHR
7/17: ATL-DUB, JFK-VCE, PDX-LHR, TXL-JFK
7/18: RDU-CDG
7/19: LHR-ATL
7/20: LAX-PVG, VCE-JFK


Don't let the trolls dictate what you want to do. We appreciate the daily updates!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:34 am

I so preferred the former way and daily updates.....sad that these mesirable few cost you to do it this way

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.

07/15-07/21 Period

Highlights
> Inaugural commercial service on refurbished 764 aircraft. N828MH flew a couple JFK-LAX turns, helping out the 764 fleet which was stretched due to technical and weather issues
> Weather event caused diversions at ATL afternoon of 7/17 with DUB/MXP-ATL flights diverting to CAE, NRT-ATL flight diverting to BNA and PVG-ATL flight diverting to HSV
> Weather event hampered operations at JFK on the evening of 7/17 with 2+hr delays seen on ACC, AMS, BCN, DUB, GRU, LAX, LHR, LOS, PRG and TLV departures
> More weather issues at JFK on 7/18 with 2+hr delays on ACC, AMS, ATH, BCN, BRU, CDG, CPH, FCO, LAX, LHR, MAD, NCE, TXL and ZRH departures
> Detroit joined the weather party on 7/19; diversions to AMS/FRA/NGO-DTW (TOL), CDG-DTW (DAY) and PEK-DTW (CMH) inbound flights as well as lengthy delays on AMS, CDG, FCO, LHR, MUC and PVG

Statistics at 7/21
Total Fleet: 152
Scheduled Service: 145/152
Spares: 7/152 (2x76T, 2x76Z, 1x764, 1x77L, 1x333)
Conversion: 0/152
Maintenance: 0/152
Storage: 0/152

Unscheduled upgrades from narrowbody fleet
7/15: SEA-OGG-SEA
7/17: DTW-MCO-DTW
7/18: DTW-ATL-DTW, SEA-LAX-SEA
7/19: ATL-LAS-ATL
7/20: ATL-FLL-ATL
7/21: JFK-ATL, ATL-JFK

Unscheduled swaps from other widebody types
7/15: FRA-JFK
7/16: ATL-FRA, DTW-AMS, PDX-NRT
7/17: AMS-DTW, ATL-VCE, FRA-DTW, NRT-PDX
7/18: ATL-LHR, ATL-VCE, CDG-CVG-CDG, DTW-FRA, JFK-LAX-JFK, SEA-KIX, VCE-ATL
7/19: FRA-ATL-MUC, JFK-LAX-JFK, KIX-SEA, VCE-ATL
7/20: FRA-JFK-FRA, JFK-LHR, MUC-ATL
7/21: ATL-CDG, ATL-MUC, CDG-DTW-MUC, FRA-ATL, JFK-LAX-JFK, LHR-JFK

Noteworthy Diversions
7/15: AMS-DTW -> BGR (medical), AMS-MSP -> FAR (weather)
7/17: LHR-JFK -> BOS (weather), SCL-ATL -> PTY (medical)
7/18: ATL-EZE -> MVD (weather)
7/20: SLC-CDG -> YYR (medical)

Flight Cancellations
7/15: DTW-LHR
7/17: ATL-DUB, JFK-VCE, PDX-LHR, TXL-JFK
7/18: RDU-CDG
7/19: LHR-ATL
7/20: LAX-PVG, VCE-JFK
 
TW870
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:46 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.



Seriously, your work on this thread is one of the only remaining quality, enthusiast-driven contributions on airliners.net. Please keep it up. I read over a thread from 17 years ago the other night when I was looking up some detail about MSP, and you cannot even compare the two forums. The level of rigor was so much higher, and people were very generous. It felt as if people actually liked airplanes and aviation.

Anyway, I like both your old format and the new one. I really like the "highlights" section - because that gives me a clearer idea of how all of the pieces fit together. Bottom line is that I will appreciate your work any way you do it.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:49 am

This is truly one of the nastiest forums on the internet I have encountered... The sniping and griping is off the charts and I'm sorry that it's affected this post. As a DL flyer and aviation enthusiast in general I've found this to be one of the most useful and interesting threads and am saddened to hear that the troglodytes on here have bullied you into changing the format. Too bad these portly losers confined to their mothers basements couldn't find anything better to do than to heckle you
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:52 am

x1234 wrote:
I keep hearing rumors that DL maybe launching SEA-SIN or SEA-MNL. SIN is high yielding (remember UA flies the old Polaris 2-2-2 config and its FULL everyday due to great demand) and DL is the only US carrier in MNL with a loyal following. MNL would be A339 and SIN would be A350 (that's where the free'd A350's/A339's go).


The current popular theory is that when DL moves operations to HND and shutters NRT, they'll just abandon SIN and MNL and just feed those flyers from the US to ICN to fly with their JV partner KE. More so with MNL, which is by no means a premium market and is overwhelmingly VFR travelers.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:25 pm

TW870 wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.



Seriously, your work on this thread is one of the only remaining quality, enthusiast-driven contributions on airliners.net. Please keep it up. I read over a thread from 17 years ago the other night when I was looking up some detail about MSP, and you cannot even compare the two forums. The level of rigor was so much higher, and people were very generous. It felt as if people actually liked airplanes and aviation.

t.


couldn't of said that better myself. Please consider going back to daily updates. For those that truly love Delta, we appreciate it. Don't let the troll win. You can report and you can choose to ignore the trolling idiot, but dont let them win.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:44 pm

Tell the trolls to go “pound sand”. I too prefer the older way and I look forward to your updates every day. Sad that you felt that you needed to switch.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:45 pm

audidudi wrote:
maddogjt8d wrote:
Anyone know what happened to DAL2341, JFK-ATL on N828MH? Unless FR24 is drunk, it shows the aircraft departing JFK, flying as far as Trenton, NJ and then turning back and landing at JFK.

And FlightAware shows the same thing, so it obviously diverted back to JFK, but why? According to DL.com, it is boarding and now has a departure time of 11.30 EDT, which is 5h 30m late.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N828MH



How will the premium select seats be filled when the new 767-400ER’s are on domestic routes? I assume medallions who don’t make the update to D1 or First class will be upgraded into premium select?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:49 pm

Kinda sorta related, I'm 2 hours from a flight on N513DZ, DL's latest and newest A350. This will be my 3rd flight on this glorious, remarkable plane. Cant wait!!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:29 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.


Let me join the chorus of those that really appreciate what you have been doing on this thread. I rarely participate on this forum anymore because of how far off the deep end the discussions have gone. This is one of the few threads that I routinely come back for, and am very disappointed that a few trolls don't appreciate what you have done. I assume you have spoken to the mods about the harassment and bullying. Again, kudos to your dedication
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:46 pm

I love this thread and like the daily updates and the format. I’m not doing this kinda of research and appreciate anything hkcanadaexpat provides.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:22 pm

764flyer wrote:
This is truly one of the nastiest forums on the internet I have encountered... The sniping and griping is off the charts and I'm sorry that it's affected this post. As a DL flyer and aviation enthusiast in general I've found this to be one of the most useful and interesting threads and am saddened to hear that the troglodytes on here have bullied you into changing the format. Too bad these portly losers confined to their mothers basements couldn't find anything better to do than to heckle you

I miss when you had to pay to be a member. You can track the decline from the day membership became free. Whenever I see bickering and the like here, you can almost always bet they’ve been a member less than 5 years.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:42 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.

I know I haven't been here long but this has become one of my favorite threads. I do hope you consider going back to daily comprehensive updates. I absolutely love this detail.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:45 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.


I agree with everyone else. This is definitely the one thread on Airliners that comeback nearly daily for. The only other threads that come close are the schedule updates from enrilia, and then the comments get so bad I can’t continue to read beyond the update. Please know hkcandaexpat that you have a lot of supporters that really enjoy what you do!!
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:51 am

sketch wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.

I know I haven't been here long but this has become one of my favorite threads. I do hope you consider going back to daily comprehensive updates. I absolutely love this detail.

I haven't ever posted on this thread as I don't really like to deal with work when I'm at home, but this is truly one of the best ones on this forum. As a DL pilot myself, it's really fascinating to look at the other perspective when it comes to aircraft operations, and especially on the A330, we really just take the aircraft across the pond and then do the same with another some time after, especially out of my base, especially during the summer when we literally have to deadhead crews from DTW, and it's really interesting to see how these planes move and how it fits in the system, and to keep track on anything noteworthy. Keep up the good work, and don't let the trolls get to you, this is the only thread that I repeatedly visit on a daily, otherwise I just quickly skim through Civil Aviation to see what's new or see if there's anything decent in the others
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:36 am

G500Captain wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following continued harassment and bullying from the usual suspects, I've decided to change the format of the reporting. I will now do this weekly and have more of a highlights theme rather than attempt to be 100% fully encompassing of all events happening within the widebody fleet.


I agree with everyone else. This is definitely the one thread on Airliners that comeback nearly daily for. The only other threads that come close are the schedule updates from enrilia, and then the comments get so bad I can’t continue to read beyond the update. Please know hkcandaexpat that you have a lot of supporters that really enjoy what you do!!


I very much agree as well! This is the single most interesting thread on a.net, my favorite, and the activity posts are absolutely insightful. It's also a refreshing change from other noisier threads. hkcanadaexpat, I love and appreciate your daily posts, but your weekly updates are great too!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:55 pm

It's been a while since I posted. But as everyone said on this forum, do not let those ignorant self-centered trolls back you into a wall when you are doing you. The way you present your information is amazing and I can look forward to see what is going on everyday about the widebody movements. As a person who is a big fan of Delta and lives near the Atlanta area, I appreciate your work and hope you can continue doing what you have to do. Thank you as always man! Keep up the good work! ;)
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:11 pm

Yep, the trolls are ruining this place and any sort of civil conversations. Your thread was very fact-based around what is going on operationally across the network and gives some very interesting insight.

I can't believe you get harassed for compiling such information. That's lame.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:56 pm

Delta 767-400ER New Cabin Refurb Update (1-21 Complete)
New Config: (34J | 20W | 28Y+| 156 Y)

Completed: (1-21) 764
N828MH: RTS 7/18/2019

To Go: (20-21) 76D
N829MH
N830MH
N831MH
N825MH
N832MH
N827MH
N833MH
N834MH
N835MH
N836MH
N837MH
N838MH
N839MH
N826MH
N841MH
N842MH
N843MH
N844MH
N840MH
N845MH
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:17 pm

gsg013 wrote:
Delta 767-400ER New Cabin Refurb Update (1-21 Complete)
New Config: (34J | 20W | 28Y+| 156 Y)

Completed: (1-21) 764
N828MH: RTS 7/18/2019

To Go: (20-21) 76D
N829MH
N830MH
N831MH
N825MH
N832MH
N827MH
N833MH
N834MH
N835MH
N836MH
N837MH
N838MH
N839MH
N826MH
N841MH
N842MH
N843MH
N844MH
N840MH
N845MH

Just curious why you listed these remaining frames in this order, rather than chronologically?

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