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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:22 am

What is the longest 767 route on Delta?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:01 am

08/29-09/01 Period
Total Fleet: 153
Scheduled Service: 142/153
Spares: 9/153 (3x76T, 1x 76Z, 1x764(DS), 1x 764, 1x77L, 2x333)
Conversion: 0/153
Maintenance: 1/153 (77L @ ATL)
Induction/Storage: 1/153 (339 @ ATL)

Highlights
> Notice to fliers on ATL-NRT/PVG routes; multiple swaps of aircraft between 7CB and 77L so new seats on ATL-NRT flights is no guarantee these days
> The 3rd 339 (N403DX) was delivered on Wednesday 08/28 bringing the widebody fleet to 153 aircraft

Flight/Route Changes
See separate entry

Unscheduled upgrades from narrowbody fleet
8/26: SEA-LAX-SEA; JFK-SFO
8/27: JFK-LAS-JFK; SFO-JFK-SFO-JFK
8/29: ATL-MCO-ATL (x2)
8/30: JFK-SFO
8/31: SFO-JFK

Noteworthy Diversions
8/29: JFK-MAD -> JFK (tech)
9/1: DTW-PVG -> DTW (tech)

Flight Cancellations
8/29: JFK-MAD
8/30: JFK-BCN
8/31: TXL-JFK
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:06 am

blacksoviet wrote:
What is the longest 767 route on Delta?

SEA-PEK on the 763ERs (5,407m)
ATL-MXP on the 764 (4,755m)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:59 pm

Not too sure if this was a charter or not, but I caught a 767-300ER (N1201P) from RDU-ATL.
(https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9940)
Flew on:
SWA 737 738
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:03 am

TW870 wrote:
heretothere wrote:
audidudi wrote:
That is correct AFAIK!


It would be tight, but SEA-PVG/ICN can both be operated daily with only 3 frames. The ICN-SEA arrival at ~1345 would turn to SEA-PVG at ~1530.


They are both scheduled for daily 339 service beginning Monday 16 September. 404DX hasn't even flown yet, so there is no way they are getting a fourth airplane before then. It will be real tight, but my guess is that after the end of the summer high season there will be enough widebody slack that they think they can sub in other fleets if the 339 goes tech.

Will they be able to make SEA-PVG/ICN/NRT work with only 4 frames once 404 is delivered and NRT switches over to 339 later this fall?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:20 am

Narfish641 wrote:
Not too sure if this was a charter or not, but I caught a 767-300ER (N1201P) from RDU-ATL.
(https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9940)

DL99** flight #s are ferry flights, and in this case N1201P was re-positioned from RDU>ATL to fly ATL>SCL this evening.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n1201p
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:27 am

NateGreat wrote:
Will they be able to make SEA-PVG/ICN/NRT work with only 4 frames once 404 is delivered and NRT switches over to 339 later this fall?

Yes
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:59 pm

777Mech wrote:
panamair wrote:
N709DN is now scheduled to do a regular NRT-MNL-NRT rotation (subbing for the regular 76Z) on Aug 17-18 after it arrives in NRT.


Yeah I'm not so sure it's going to SIN for conversion.

Supposedly 7101 will be the next one to go in late September.


Does anyone know why N709DN didn't enter mods at SIN two weeks ago as was reported on here to have been the plan? Was it because there was a last minute shortage of 77Ls to have this one be out of service at that time?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:18 pm

Someone was saying on a Facebook page that the 330neo will be arriving into DTW starting mid-October, with an ETA of 13:20 and an ETD of 18:10. That makes it obvious it's going to Europe, but if only four frames are to be on property by the end of the year, then I have my doubts of them flying something like the following on a daily basis:

SEA-AMS-DTW-AMS-SEA-PVG
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:49 pm

DTWorld wrote:
Someone was saying on a Facebook page that the 330neo will be arriving into DTW starting mid-October, with an ETA of 13:20 and an ETD of 18:10. That makes it obvious it's going to Europe, but if only four frames are to be on property by the end of the year, then I have my doubts of them flying something like the following on a daily basis:

SEA-AMS-DTW-AMS-SEA-PVG


Yowza's, thats a lot of cities for only 4 aircraft!

Separate question, 2 more 350's get delivered in 2020, probably the last 350's at that, any one have the slightest idea on where DL will fly them to and will they get delivered early or late in 2020?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:50 pm

audidudi wrote:
777Mech wrote:
panamair wrote:
N709DN is now scheduled to do a regular NRT-MNL-NRT rotation (subbing for the regular 76Z) on Aug 17-18 after it arrives in NRT.


Yeah I'm not so sure it's going to SIN for conversion.

Supposedly 7101 will be the next one to go in late September.


Does anyone know why N709DN didn't enter mods at SIN two weeks ago as was reported on here to have been the plan? Was it because there was a last minute shortage of 77Ls to have this one be out of service at that time?


I'm almost positive it's seat delays.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:02 pm

jumbojet wrote:
Separate question, 2 more 350's get delivered in 2020, probably the last 350's at that, any one have the slightest idea on where DL will fly them to and will they get delivered early or late in 2020?

Early 2020. Q1. And they will arrive in 4 class configuration. The first 350s in that configuration.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:11 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
jumbojet wrote:
Separate question, 2 more 350's get delivered in 2020, probably the last 350's at that, any one have the slightest idea on where DL will fly them to and will they get delivered early or late in 2020?

Early 2020. Q1. And they will arrive in 4 class configuration. The first 350s in that configuration.


Oh, thats nice, it will have comfort plus. Any clue where #14 and 15 will be flying to/from?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:21 pm

jumbojet wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
jumbojet wrote:
Separate question, 2 more 350's get delivered in 2020, probably the last 350's at that, any one have the slightest idea on where DL will fly them to and will they get delivered early or late in 2020?

Early 2020. Q1. And they will arrive in 4 class configuration. The first 350s in that configuration.


Oh, thats nice, it will have comfort plus. Any clue where #14 and 15 will be flying to/from?


I'm not sure if DL is still planning on following through on their S20 MSP-PVG route authority request, but that seems like one possibility.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:42 pm

FSDan wrote:
jumbojet wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Early 2020. Q1. And they will arrive in 4 class configuration. The first 350s in that configuration.


Oh, thats nice, it will have comfort plus. Any clue where #14 and 15 will be flying to/from?


I'm not sure if DL is still planning on following through on their S20 MSP-PVG route authority request, but that seems like one possibility.


I thought about that to but with early 2020 deliveries, wouldn't they have made that route announcement already?

Or, possibly MSP - HND? It looks like DL currently uses the 77L but switches some time next year to the 350.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:07 pm

DTWorld wrote:
Someone was saying on a Facebook page that the 330neo will be arriving into DTW starting mid-October, with an ETA of 13:20 and an ETD of 18:10. That makes it obvious it's going to Europe, but if only four frames are to be on property by the end of the year, then I have my doubts of them flying something like the following on a daily basis:

SEA-AMS-DTW-AMS-SEA-PVG


That contradicts what I thought I heard as DL's statement that the first 9 frames would be assigned to West Coast-Asia flying. 404 is the last frame coming this year - so if that rumor is true, then they would have to drop one of the 339 Asia routes and reassign one or more of the frames. My guess is it is a rumor and that by Nov. 1 the 3 routes will be SEA-PVG/ICN/NRT.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:24 pm

Interesting development. 2020 DL will be getting 7 A339’s versus the 4 planned. 2021 will see 11 join the fleet versus the 9 planned. DL has also increased its order from 35 total frames to 37.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:30 pm

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DL has also increased its order from 35 total frames to 37.


Has that shown up in an SEC form 10-Q or 8-K yet? Recall that the final incremental order of ten 739s (Boeing's exercise of the put option) was so disclosed as material.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:41 pm

cessna2 wrote:
Interesting development. 2020 DL will be getting 7 A339’s versus the 4 planned. 2021 will see 11 join the fleet versus the 9 planned. DL has also increased its order from 35 total frames to 37.


Nice to see some widebody lift arriving early for DL. I wonder if this is primarily for growth, or for accelerated 763 retirements...
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:42 pm

cessna2 wrote:
Interesting development. 2020 DL will be getting 7 A339’s versus the 4 planned. 2021 will see 11 join the fleet versus the 9 planned. DL has also increased its order from 35 total frames to 37.


What's the source of this information? Also, is it true that DL is taking A333s from WOW as well?

Jeremy
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:19 am

SESGDL wrote:
cessna2 wrote:
Interesting development. 2020 DL will be getting 7 A339’s versus the 4 planned. 2021 will see 11 join the fleet versus the 9 planned. DL has also increased its order from 35 total frames to 37.


What's the source of this information? Also, is it true that DL is taking A333s from WOW as well?

Jeremy


WOW used the A330-300. Would DL even want those?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:02 am

jumbojet wrote:
SESGDL wrote:
cessna2 wrote:
Interesting development. 2020 DL will be getting 7 A339’s versus the 4 planned. 2021 will see 11 join the fleet versus the 9 planned. DL has also increased its order from 35 total frames to 37.


What's the source of this information? Also, is it true that DL is taking A333s from WOW as well?

Jeremy


WOW used the A330-300. Would DL even want those?


All 3 are at Turkish, per planespotters.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:31 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
cessna2 wrote:
DL has also increased its order from 35 total frames to 37.


Has that shown up in an SEC form 10-Q or 8-K yet? Recall that the final incremental order of ten 739s (Boeing's exercise of the put option) was so disclosed as material.


Nope
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:02 am

Why did Delta retire the MD-11s so young?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:03 am

jumbojet wrote:
SESGDL wrote:
cessna2 wrote:
Interesting development. 2020 DL will be getting 7 A339’s versus the 4 planned. 2021 will see 11 join the fleet versus the 9 planned. DL has also increased its order from 35 total frames to 37.


What's the source of this information? Also, is it true that DL is taking A333s from WOW as well?

Jeremy


WOW used the A330-300. Would DL even want those?

However DL might be interested in WOW's two A339s currently sitting engineless at TLS...MSNs 1870 and 1887.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:34 am

SESGDL wrote:
cessna2 wrote:
Interesting development. 2020 DL will be getting 7 A339’s versus the 4 planned. 2021 will see 11 join the fleet versus the 9 planned. DL has also increased its order from 35 total frames to 37.


What's the source of this information? Also, is it true that DL is taking A333s from WOW as well?

Jeremy

It was released in one of the Pilot newsletters this week. I have a screenshot that was sent to me, but cannot post it. Not sure if they plan to retire the 767's early or if this is for unannounced growth. DL is trying to get its Domestic and International flying revenue 50/50. Hoping this is for growth!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:12 pm

blacksoviet wrote:
Why did Delta retire the MD-11s so young?


Aircraft did not meet spec, and even if it would have, the MD-11 was rendered obsolete by the 777's far better unit costs on similar missions. Most other major operators also retired the aircraft early.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:36 pm

Does anyone have some information's regarding the A339 performance?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:49 pm

TW870 wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Why did Delta retire the MD-11s so young?


Aircraft did not meet spec, and even if it would have, the MD-11 was rendered obsolete by the 777's far better unit costs on similar missions. Most other major operators also retired the aircraft early.

Were all the Delta MD-11s converted to freighters? Are any still in passenger configuration?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:00 pm

blacksoviet wrote:
TW870 wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Why did Delta retire the MD-11s so young?


Aircraft did not meet spec, and even if it would have, the MD-11 was rendered obsolete by the 777's far better unit costs on similar missions. Most other major operators also retired the aircraft early.

Were all the Delta MD-11s converted to freighters? Are any still in passenger configuration?

Twelve of the seventeen were converted to freighters. Of the other five, three went to World Airways and two went to VASP:

N802DE became N293UP
N805DE became N522FE
N806DE became N291UP
N807DE became N521FE
N808DE became N523FE
N809DE became N524FE
N810DE became N525FE
N811DE became N292UP
N812DE became N527FE
N813DE became N526FE
N814DE became N528FE
N815DE became N529FE
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:47 pm

TW870 wrote:
Aircraft did not meet spec, and even if it would have, the MD-11 was rendered obsolete by the 777's far better unit costs on similar missions. Most other major operators also retired the aircraft early.


The people who know the answer to this will go to their graves without confirming or denying, but I also strongly suspect that Delta and some of the other passenger operators who got rid of the MD-11 early were spooked by its handling in the landing phase. It proved over time to be much more of an issue at typical cargo weights than typical passenger weights, but DL has a habit of carrying heavy payloads with their widebody fleet.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:47 am

seabosdca wrote:
TW870 wrote:
Aircraft did not meet spec, and even if it would have, the MD-11 was rendered obsolete by the 777's far better unit costs on similar missions. Most other major operators also retired the aircraft early.


The people who know the answer to this will go to their graves without confirming or denying, but I also strongly suspect that Delta and some of the other passenger operators who got rid of the MD-11 early were spooked by its handling in the landing phase. It proved over time to be much more of an issue at typical cargo weights than typical passenger weights, but DL has a habit of carrying heavy payloads with their widebody fleet.


I don't doubt that. I worked for United, so we had no internal conversation about the MD-11. But in my experience, airline people are very frank about challenges that airplane types face. The MD-11 had a series of accidents with airplanes near maximum landing weight with hard landings and rollovers. That should not have been an issue at a carrier like DL, as the MD-11 had the opposite problem, in that it burned too much fuel on very long routes, leaving it relatively light on landing with not enough payload to make money. The reason it crashed at FedEx did not translate to accidents on passenger airlines. But nevertheless, I would not be surprised if the airplane's notable pitch instability was part of the conversation about retirement from carriers such as AA and DL.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:10 pm

Anyone know why DL094 DTW-ATL is an A350 tonight and tomorrow?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:14 am

Anyone else heard about this so called rumor?
http://a380.boards.net/thread/1133/delt ... 12&page=18
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:35 am

DL loaded the Haneda flights (except for HNL) in the system this weekend as well as the ICN-MNL rotation (339 continuation from SEA-ICN flight) for S20 schedule.

As much as the S20 schedule remains a work in progress, there were some interesting changes, especially when it comes to the 76W fleet.
S20 schedule currently shows:
> 76T fleet dedicated to the HNL flights (ATL/MSP/NRT/NGO/KIX) as well as the SEA-KIX rotation; this eliminates the need for a LAX-HNL 76W flight to rotate the fleet (8am LAX-HNL rotation reverts to 753); more importantly it surprises me that DL would use its premium J 76Ws on Hawaii leisure routes
> 76L fleet flying exclusively on JFK-LAX rotations (continuing from W19-20 schedule); interestingly current schedule requires all current frames so no retirements currently obvious although i do believe these JFK-LAX flights are place setters and they can easily be operated by 76Zs

The way the S20 schedule currently reads, it seems that SEA-PEK and MSP-ICN are the next two 339 routes to be announced and will be operated during S20 by the 339 fleet.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:30 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
DL loaded the Haneda flights (except for HNL) in the system this weekend as well as the ICN-MNL rotation (339 continuation from SEA-ICN flight) for S20 schedule.

As much as the S20 schedule remains a work in progress, there were some interesting changes, especially when it comes to the 76W fleet.
S20 schedule currently shows:
> 76T fleet dedicated to the HNL flights (ATL/MSP/NRT/NGO/KIX) as well as the SEA-KIX rotation; this eliminates the need for a LAX-HNL 76W flight to rotate the fleet (8am LAX-HNL rotation reverts to 753); more importantly it surprises me that DL would use its premium J 76Ws on Hawaii leisure routes
> 76L fleet flying exclusively on JFK-LAX rotations (continuing from W19-20 schedule); interestingly current schedule requires all current frames so no retirements currently obvious although i do believe these JFK-LAX flights are place setters and they can easily be operated by 76Zs

The way the S20 schedule currently reads, it seems that SEA-PEK and MSP-ICN are the next two 339 routes to be announced and will be operated during S20 by the 339 fleet.


Thanks for the update! MSP-ICN for the 339 is a logical choice, as MSP has an A330 pilot base, and they can move the 777 back to ATL or (possibly) LAX to reduce the number of longer, more expensive pilot trips. It looks like the DL 777 will be completely gone from MSP next summer, with HND getting the A350 and CDG switching to a DL 333 and AF 787-9. Anyone know any more about MSP-PVG? I think after the AA slot return that DL could launch it, but I haven't heard anything.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:27 pm

TW870 wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
DL loaded the Haneda flights (except for HNL) in the system this weekend as well as the ICN-MNL rotation (339 continuation from SEA-ICN flight) for S20 schedule.

As much as the S20 schedule remains a work in progress, there were some interesting changes, especially when it comes to the 76W fleet.
S20 schedule currently shows:
> 76T fleet dedicated to the HNL flights (ATL/MSP/NRT/NGO/KIX) as well as the SEA-KIX rotation; this eliminates the need for a LAX-HNL 76W flight to rotate the fleet (8am LAX-HNL rotation reverts to 753); more importantly it surprises me that DL would use its premium J 76Ws on Hawaii leisure routes
> 76L fleet flying exclusively on JFK-LAX rotations (continuing from W19-20 schedule); interestingly current schedule requires all current frames so no retirements currently obvious although i do believe these JFK-LAX flights are place setters and they can easily be operated by 76Zs

The way the S20 schedule currently reads, it seems that SEA-PEK and MSP-ICN are the next two 339 routes to be announced and will be operated during S20 by the 339 fleet.


Thanks for the update! MSP-ICN for the 339 is a logical choice, as MSP has an A330 pilot base, and they can move the 777 back to ATL or (possibly) LAX to reduce the number of longer, more expensive pilot trips. It looks like the DL 777 will be completely gone from MSP next summer, with HND getting the A350 and CDG switching to a DL 333 and AF 787-9. Anyone know any more about MSP-PVG? I think after the AA slot return that DL could launch it, but I haven't heard anything.

I thought MSP-ICN was supposed to be on the A350.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:19 pm

NateGreat wrote:
Anyone else heard about this so called rumor?
http://a380.boards.net/thread/1133/delt ... 12&page=18

The answer is that DL will be running the 339 between DTW and SEA from 10/15 to 10/25. It is loaded in the system.
I guess DL is now expecting to receive the 4th 339 early and will do a domestic turn for crew familiarization prior to launching SEA-NRT on 10/27.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:22 pm

NateGreat wrote:
I thought MSP-ICN was supposed to be on the A350.

Its currently loaded as 777 for S20 but that won't stick as it doesn't fit with the other flights. I'm speculating 339 to rotate with the SEA-ICN-MNL frames. It could also go 359 and rotate with the DTW-ICN-ATL frames.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:55 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
What is the longest 767 route on Delta?

SEA-PEK on the 763ERs (5,407m)
ATL-MXP on the 764 (4,755m)



The longest route for 767-400 would be ATL-EZE (4999 nm) when they change equipment later next month.

I also remember many moons ago the 764 did ATL-SVO briefly.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:40 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
I thought MSP-ICN was supposed to be on the A350.

Its currently loaded as 777 for S20 but that won't stick as it doesn't fit with the other flights. I'm speculating 339 to rotate with the SEA-ICN-MNL frames. It could also go 359 and rotate with the DTW-ICN-ATL frames.

Do, I assume to make MSP-ICN work, they’ll run SEA-ICN-MSP-ICN-SEA. Also, when will the first TATL A330neo flight likely happen, and on which routing?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:21 am

I am not understanding why MSP-HND will be on an A350 and MSP-ICN will be on an A339. Seems like there would be more traffic on the ICN leg than to HND.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:21 am

09/02-09/08 Period
Total Fleet: 153
Scheduled Service: 139/153
Spares: 9/153 (3x76T, 1x76Z, 1x764(DS), 1x764, 2x77L, 1x333)
Conversion: 1/153 ([email protected])
Maintenance: 3/153 ([email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected])
Induction/Storage: 1/153 (339 @ ATL)

Highlights
> Weather event in NYC on 09/02 resulting in multiple 2+hr delays to FRA, LAX, LOS, NCE, PRG & TXL
> The next 764 going into mods (N834MH) has begun the long journey to CAN via SEA/NRT

Flight/Route Changes
> ATL-ZRH goes from Daily to x2 effective 09/03
> 7pm JFK-LAX rotation from x67 to x6 effective 09/07

Upgrades from narrowbody fleet
9/2: PDX-ATL; HNL-LAX; JFK-ATL
9/3: ATL-DTW; DTW-ATL (2x); LAX-ATL-JFK
9/4: ATL-FLL-ATL
9/5: JFK-ATL
9/6: ATL-JFK; SEA-ATL
9/7: JFK-ATL; ATL-LAX; LAX-ATL; DTW-ATL
9/8: ATL-LAX-ATL; ATL-JFK; ATL-DTW (2x); DTW-ATL

Noteworthy Diversions
9/2: DTW-PVG -> DTW (tech); LAX-JFK -> ORF (weather)
9/3: ICN-ATL -> ANC (medical)

Flight Cancellations
9/3: MCO-AMS
9/6: JFK-CDG; JFK-LHR (2x)
9/7: ZRH-ATL
9/8: SCL-ATL; AMS-SLC
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:19 am

Is the A332 still used on transpacific routes?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:40 am

blacksoviet wrote:
Is the A332 still used on transpacific routes?

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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:08 pm

blacksoviet wrote:
Is the A332 still used on transpacific routes?


Planespotters.net for tail numbers by subtype. https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines

Flightaware with tail number for routes flown in the last ~10 days. Example: Google 'flightaware N851NW'

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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:55 pm

A third 764 in quick succession heading to CAN for conversion. N833MH is flying commercial ATL-LAX-HNL and then ferrying HNL-CAN from 09/13.
A fourth one should follow shortly.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:14 pm

SUNCTRY738 wrote:
I am not understanding why MSP-HND will be on an A350 and MSP-ICN will be on an A339. Seems like there would be more traffic on the ICN leg than to HND.


I'm a little surprised by that too given the volume of connections DL could route over ICN vs HND, but on the other hand it's only a 25 seat difference between the two aircraft. I wouldn't be surprised to see those two routes switch equipment types at some point, though.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:02 pm

Does anyone know whether the new WiFi on the B764, which was never turned on apparently for the first two months that it's been flying both domestically and internationally, has been signed off yet?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:51 am

audidudi wrote:
Does anyone know whether the new WiFi on the B764, which was never turned on apparently for the first two months that it's been flying both domestically and internationally, has been signed off yet?

Apologies re-the reference to WiFi in my post as what I meant was the new IFE, which originally caused N828MH to be delayed for several weeks at CAN, before it was even delivered back to the US, and even then it was never turned on! Does anyone know if/when the IFE has started working?

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