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FSDan
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:23 am

NateGreat wrote:
So, if Delta is granted all the Haneda flights they are trying to launch in Summer 2020, will the flights between their US hubs and Narita be terminated?


It's highly likely that any HND route DL gets will be dropped from NRT. If enough routes get dropped from NRT, I expect any remaining NRT flights (MNL, SIN, and HNL or PDX if either of those don't get a HND frequency) will be dropped as well. Since it's likely DL will, at the very least, be awarded HND frequencies for SEA, DTW, and ATL (and probably PDX too, in my opinion), I expect they'll exit NRT next March.
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hkcanadaexpat
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:28 am

FSDan wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
So, if Delta is granted all the Haneda flights they are trying to launch in Summer 2020, will the flights between their US hubs and Narita be terminated?

It's highly likely that any HND route DL gets will be dropped from NRT. If enough routes get dropped from NRT, I expect any remaining NRT flights (MNL, SIN, and HNL or PDX if either of those don't get a HND frequency) will be dropped as well. Since it's likely DL will, at the very least, be awarded HND frequencies for SEA, DTW, and ATL (and probably PDX too, in my opinion), I expect they'll exit NRT next March.

I'd venture to say they'd keep NRT-HNL as part of the beach fleet with KIX/NGO. I believe that KE's NRT-HNL flight is also part of the JV so that makes it 4 beach flights daily. Unless again they kill the entire beach fleet. I agree with you on MNL/SIN. This is all pure speculation from my part.

What will be interesting is if DL gets 1x HND-HNL, do they keep the current NRT-HNL also as part of the greater beach fleet. I agree all the other routes will be transferred from NRT to HND.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:31 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/1
763ER-high J: MSP-LHR rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N1613B)
763ER-high J: JFK-LAX ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N175DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on JFK-GIG-ATL rotation (N175DN)
763ER-high J: ATL-FOE-RIV-ATL military charter (N179DN)
763ER-high J: ATL-AEX-GTB-ATL military charter (N183DN)
763ER-low J: LAX-ONT ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N181DN)
763ER-low J: ONT-HNL military charter (N181DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-AEX-GTB-ATL military charter (N186DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-MUC-ATL rotation (N186DN)
763ER-low J: HNL-LAX-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N187DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled swap from 764 on 1:41pm ATL-JFK-ATL rotation (N197DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional JFK-ATL flight (N198DN)
332: scheduled swap from 333 on 3:50pm DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N851NW)
332: JFK-AEX-GTB-JFK military charter (N860NW)
764: scheduled swap from 763ER-low J on 7:25pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N837MH)
764: ATL-AEX-GTB-FOE military charter (N842MH)
7CD: ATL-NRT route migrates from 77L effective 3/1 (N865DA)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on MSP-HND-MSP rotation (N866DA)
7HD: MSP-FOE-RIV-MSP military charter (N860DA)
333: MSP-AMS flight - maintenance exit [16 days] (N802NW)
333: scheduled additional SEA-ATL flight (N810NW)
333: scheduled swap from 332 on DTW-LHR-DTW rotation (N813NW)
333: scheduled additional ATL-JFK flight (N817NW)
333: JFK-BCN route migrates from 764 effective 3/1 (N817NW)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on ATL-LHR-ATL rotation (N821NW)
359: SEA-NRT route migrates from 333 effective 3/1 (N502DN)
359: TLS-ATL delivery flight for #13 DL A359 (N513DZ)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:49 pm

7004, N863DA, is scheduled to exit TechOps tomorrow with the C + cabin, and re-enter service from ATL>CDG:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n863da
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:56 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
First A339 routes announced by DL
SEA-PVG: 7/1 76T -> 339 (2 frames)
SEA-ICN: 8/1 76T -> 339 (1 frame)
SEA-NRT: 8/31 359 -> 339 (1 frame)
https://news.delta.com/delta-bring-more ... ing-summer

A339 flights have now been loaded on DL's website.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:09 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/2
763ER-high J(T): MSP-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1613B)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 11:15am ATL-PHX-MSP-PHX-ATL rotation (N180DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 319 on 3:10pm ATL-JFK flight (N197DN)
763ER-low J: GIG-JFK flight cancelled - tech (N198DN)
763ER-low J: 8:40am MCO-SLC-MCO rotation cancelled effective 3/2 (N199DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 75W on 11:40am JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N171DZ)
763ER-low J: 3x weekly 10am MCO-MSP-MCO rotation effective 3/2 (N173DZ)
332: unscheduled swap from 333 on LHR-JFK-LHR rotation (N853NW/N859NW)
764: scheduled additional ATL-MSP flight (N826MH)
764: scheduled additional MSP-PHX-ATL rotation - spring break (N826MH)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:15am JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N835MH)
764: FOE-RIV-FOE-RIV military charter (N842MH)
764: scheduled upgrade from 319 on 5:27pm JFK-ATL flight (N843MH)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on MSP-HND-MSP rotation (N866DA)
7HB: N706DN entered ATL maintenance/7CB conversion on 3/1 (N706DN)
7HD: MSP-FOE-RIV-MSP military charter (N860DA)
7HD: unscheduled swap from 7CD on ATL-NRT-ATL rotation (N864DA)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on LHR-ATL-LHR rotation (N815NW/N820NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:44 pm

Are there any planned 359 domestic flights coming up? I think I just missed the ATL-SEA on Feb 28!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:33 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
First A339 routes announced by DL
SEA-PVG: 7/1 76T -> 339 (2 frames)
SEA-ICN: 8/1 76T -> 339 (1 frame)
SEA-NRT: 8/31 359 -> 339 (1 frame)
https://news.delta.com/delta-bring-more ... ing-summer

A339 flights have now been loaded on DL's website.


The 339's in business class, do they have the center OHB's or are not like the 350?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:33 pm

wernerga3 wrote:
Are there any planned 359 domestic flights coming up? I think I just missed the ATL-SEA on Feb 28!

atl-lax 3/31
dtw-atl 3/30
lax-atl 3/29
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:33 am

I am a lowly Diamond as well. I do ATL-SIN monthly and hope Delta retains Singapore with their own planes. I find Korean Air business class seats to be uncomfortable mainly since they are designed for the average Asian build. I do not mind using them for short hops around Asia but I avoid them for long flights. As has been mentioned the connecting flights from ICN via Delta 27 (A350 ATL-ICN) require a very long layover at ICN
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. I find the 767 to be comfortable in the D1 cabin and I am looking forward to my first trip in the 777 D1 suites this week on my return. I really like the A350 D1 one suites and I notice the higher humidity level in the cabin as well. I think not having over suite air vents on rows B&C on the A350 is a major mistake. It can get stagnate with no airflow.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:25 am

Dldiamondboy wrote:
I think not having over suite air vents on rows B&C on the A350 is a major mistake. It can get stagnate with no airflow.


And another reason why it's important to have the option to fly Delta metal on as many routes as possible - guaranteed air vents (barring the A350 B&C section like you mentioned). Too many Asian carriers (including KE) do not have them, and in combination with keeping the cabin warmer, can lead to an environment so uncomfortable that no level of service or fancy seat can make up for it.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:59 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
wernerga3 wrote:
Are there any planned 359 domestic flights coming up? I think I just missed the ATL-SEA on Feb 28!

atl-lax 3/31
dtw-atl 3/30
lax-atl 3/29



thank you so much- i booked the one suite on 3/29- been wanting to try it domestically
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:43 am

Where does the A350 go after 8/31 that is currently flying SEA-NRT?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:30 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/3
763ER-high J(T): unscheduled upgrade from 712 on 12:15pm SEA-LAS-SEA rotation (N1612T)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on JFK-MAD-JFK rotation (N171DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on ATL-PDX-AMS-JFK rotation (N175DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 3:40pm LAX-OGG-LAX rotation (N185DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled swap from KLM on ATL-AMS-ATL rotation (N186DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 7:00am JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N187DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional MCO-ATL flight (N192DN)
763ER-low J: SEA-RIV-FAI military charter (N194DN)
763ER-low J: 8:10am JFK-LAX-JFK rotation migrates from 764 effective 3/3 (N196DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 8:22am ATL-LAS-ATL rotation (N199DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional JFK-ATL flight (N171DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 5:27pm JFK-ATL flight (N174DZ)
763ER-low J: GIG-JFK rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N1605)
332: 9:04pm DTW-LHR flight cancelled - tech (N858NW)
764: unscheduled swap from 763ER-low J on 9:30pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N829MH)
764: RIV-FOE-RIV-FOE-ONT-ATL military charter (N842MH)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on ATL-CDG-ATL rotation - conversion exit [14 days] (N863DA)
7CD: scheduled upgrade from 739 on 3:36pm MSP-ATL flight (N866DA)
7HD: scheduled upgrade from 752 on 5:57pm ATL-MSP flight (N861DA)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on 7:15pm ATL-LHR-ATL rotation (N813NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:33 am

TW870 wrote:
Where does the A350 go after 8/31 that is currently flying SEA-NRT?

W19-20 scheduled currently shows a fleet utilization rate of 12/13 A359s. This will likely change. Especially in light of deliveries #14/15 occurring during W19-20.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:58 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/4
763ER-high J(T): ATL-RIV-FAI-ATL military charter (N1613B)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on JFK-AMS-JFK rotation (N171DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 3:30pm ATL-TPA-ATL rotation (N176DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 5:57pm ATL-MSP-ATL rotation (N177DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on JFK-GIG-JFK rotation (N185DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 11:15am ATL-PHX-MSP-PHX-ATL rotation (N180DN)
763ER-low J: JFK-ACC rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N187DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-NKT-YUM-ATL military charter (N192DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 5:27pm JFK-ATL flight (N196DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled swap from KLM on ATL-AMS-ATL rotation (N196DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 10:55am ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N198DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 8:10am ATL-SEA-OGG-LAX rotation (N174DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 11:25am JFK-MCO-JFK rotation (N175DZ)
763ER-low J: ATL-RIV-FAI-SEA military charter (N16065)
332: DTW-LHR rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N858NW)
764: unscheduled swap from 763ER-low J on JFK-MAD-JFK rotation (N838MH)
764: scheduled additional MSP-PHX-ATL rotation - spring break (N839MH)
764: ATL-ILN ferry flight - maintenance entry (N842MH)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on ATL-CDG-ATL rotation (N863DA)
7CD: scheduled upgrade from 739 on 7:59pm ATL-MSP flight (N865DA)
7HD: scheduled upgrade from 739 on 3:36pm MSP-ATL flight (N862DA)
7HD: N864DA entered ATL for 7CD conversion on 3/3
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on 7:15pm ATL-LHR-ATL rotation (N808NW)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on 9:51pm ATL-LHR-ATL rotation (N814NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:44 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/5
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 11pm ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N140LL)
763ER-high J: FRA-JFK flight cancelled - tech (N178DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on JFK-MAD-JFK rotation (N183DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled swap from KLM on ATL-AMS-ATL rotation (N180DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 3:00pm ATL-JFK flight (N192DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N192DN)
763ER-low J: SEA-RIV-FAI-ATL military charter (N16065)
764: scheduled additional ATL-PHX-MSP-PHX-ATL rotation - spring break (N827MH)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on ATL-CDG-ATL rotation (N863DA)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on MSP-HND-MSP rotation (N865DA)
7HD: unscheduled swap from 7CD on ATL-NRT-ATL rotation (N862DA)
333: MSP-HNL flight - maintenance exit [18 days] (N809NW)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on 7:15pm ATL-LHR-ATL rotation (N820NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:40 am

7005, N864DA, is already scheduled to fly from ATL>CDG tomorrow! Did it really only take 4 days to install the C + cabin, or could it have been at TechOps for something else? On DL.com, it says that PS is "Not Offered" on tomorrow's flight DL82.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N864DA
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:39 am

There's a DL 763ER JFK-ATL this weekend and the flight # is 8801. Wld anyone know the purpose of this flight? It seems like a ferry flight being that the number is in the 8000s.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:34 am

bpat777 wrote:
There's a DL 763ER JFK-ATL this weekend and the flight # is 8801. Wld anyone know the purpose of this flight? It seems like a ferry flight being that the number is in the 8000s.

Some charters are in the 800s, but they’re also used on scheduled additional segments. The one-off A350 repositioning flight last summer was flight 8803.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:28 am

bpat777 wrote:
There's a DL 763ER JFK-ATL this weekend and the flight # is 8801. Wld anyone know the purpose of this flight? It seems like a ferry flight being that the number is in the 8000s.

its a bookable flight. scheduled one-off additional commercial flight.
could be revenue repositioning flight. could also be additional lift for spring break.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:58 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/6
763ER-high J: FRA-JFK rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N178DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 1:55pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N179DN)
763ER-high J: scheduled upgrade from 75W on 3:55pm JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N183DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-BRU-JFK rotation (N193DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 11:15am ATL-PHX-MSP-PHX-ATL rotation (N196DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled swap from KLM on ATL-AMS-ATL rotation (N198DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional ATL-MCO flight (N172DZ)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 7:25am ATL-MSP-ATL rotation (N830MH)
764: JFK-LAX flight diverted to JFK - tech (N837MH)
77L: unscheduled swap from 7HD on ATL-CDG-ATL rotation (N708DN)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:19 am

Dldiamondboy wrote:
I am a lowly Diamond as well. I do ATL-SIN monthly and hope Delta retains Singapore with their own planes. I find Korean Air business class seats to be uncomfortable mainly since they are designed for the average Asian build. I do not mind using them for short hops around Asia but I avoid them for long flights. As has been mentioned the connecting flights from ICN via Delta 27 (A350 ATL-ICN) require a very long layover at ICN
.
. I find the 767 to be comfortable in the D1 cabin and I am looking forward to my first trip in the 777 D1 suites this week on my return. I really like the A350 D1 one suites and I notice the higher humidity level in the cabin as well. I think not having over suite air vents on rows B&C on the A350 is a major mistake. It can get stagnate with no airflow.



I am not sure why people keep wishing that SIN and MNL get dropped. Like DLDiamondBoy, I too am a lowly Diamond traveler and am on the MNL flight almost monthly. I have been doing that flight for 4 years now and not once have I been on a less than 90% capacity flight, even when the Queen was flying the route. It constantly is full. I also fly in/out on random days of the week so I’ve seen typically “high and low” demand days. D1 is always full, granted I don’t have records as to how much each ticket ends up being purchased for, but the flight is serving a demand.

I also agree with DLDiamondBoy about Korean Air. I’ve done the ICN-MNL flight and the product is not comparable to DL, especially business D1 vs Prestige.

You also have a SkyClub in NRT vs a shared club with two alliances at HND. I understand the appeal though for the Japanese market with HND being closer to the city. But it can’t be 100% of the market. UA has a good presence at NRT, I’m sure DL doesn’t want to forfeit that. Why not have a nice mix between the two? Airlines do a good job with this and the London market. What I’d be looking at is swapping PDX for SLC. One of DL major hubs and receiving a brand new airport in 2020. Argument there is NIKE, and a good one at that. But SEA is only a 30 min flight and quick connection. It would be a good way to kick off the new SLC with a new international route. Maybe both? And what about opening up the Northeast market again to NRT or HND? HND only has 2 flights to the Northeast between ANA/JAL. NRT has 6 with ANA/JAL/UA. With more A359s, new A339s, and not many 76Ws retiring, DL will have a wider range of WBs to do more Asia-Pacific routes. Spread out the gateways evenly, routes like:

NRT - PDX/SLC/DTW/HNL/SIN/MNL;
HND - SEA/LAX/MSP/ATL/JFK.

My all time ideal route would actually just be a SEA-MNL. 5788 nm, well within the A332/A333/A359/77E/77L and even the 76E (specifically 76T) fleet. Really the only WB of DL’s that couldn’t make that is the 764. But there is a decent size Japanese-Filipino market on the NRT-MNL flights. So I can see the logic behind connecting through NRT.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:01 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/7
763ER-high J(T): ATL-MCO ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1613B)
763ER-high J(T): unscheduled swap from low-J on MCO-GRU-MCO rotation (N1613B)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 8:01am ATL-FLL-ATL rotation (N177DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on JFK-MAD-JFK rotation (N179DN)
763ER-low J: AMS-MCO flight diverted to AMS - tech (N154DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-MUC-ATL rotation (N180DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled swap from KLM on ATL-AMS-ATL rotation (N196DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 12:40pm SEA-OGG-SEA rotation (N199DN)
764: LIM-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N834MH)
764: scheduled additional ATL-PHX-MSP-PHX-ATL rotation - spring break (N838MH)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on ATL-CDG-MSP rotation - conversion exit [4 days] (N864DA)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on MSP-HND-MSP rotation (N865DA)
7HD: N862DA entered ATL for 7CD conversion on 3/6
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:08 am

OptimusPrime315 wrote:
My all time ideal route would actually just be a SEA-MNL. 5788 nm, well within the A332/A333/A359/77E/77L and even the 76E (specifically 76T) fleet. Really the only WB of DL’s that couldn’t make that is the 764. But there is a decent size Japanese-Filipino market on the NRT-MNL flights. So I can see the logic behind connecting through NRT.


Check your range numbers. SEA-MNL would be out of range for the 333 or 763 with any reasonable payload, and stretching the limits of the 332. Delta has more profitable things to do with 772s and 359s.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:14 pm

SESGDL wrote:
xdlx wrote:
The BOTTOM LINE.... no 787, 77W, and now NOMORE 350 back to 333. So is the 777 the FLAGSHIP?


Huh? I swear there’s more and more incoherent babble on here every day. How is the A350 no more?

Jeremy


NO babble..... DL is not 100% happy with them! OR do you have information to the contrary?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:08 pm

Was n864DA the fastest conversion (4days)so far
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:36 pm

xdlx wrote:
SESGDL wrote:
xdlx wrote:
The BOTTOM LINE.... no 787, 77W, and now NOMORE 350 back to 333. So is the 777 the FLAGSHIP?


Huh? I swear there’s more and more incoherent babble on here every day. How is the A350 no more?

Jeremy


NO babble..... DL is not 100% happy with them! OR do you have information to the contrary?


Your comment made no sense. Additionally, do you have any evidence to prove that DL is not pleased with the A350? Seems suspicious given that DL just took delivery of two of them within the last few months. DL is not going to suddenly retire the A350, point blank period.

Jeremy
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:27 pm

SESGDL wrote:
xdlx wrote:
SESGDL wrote:

Huh? I swear there’s more and more incoherent babble on here every day. How is the A350 no more?

Jeremy


NO babble..... DL is not 100% happy with them! OR do you have information to the contrary?


Your comment made no sense. Additionally, do you have any evidence to prove that DL is not pleased with the A350? Seems suspicious given that DL just took delivery of two of them within the last few months. DL is not going to suddenly retire the A350, point blank period.

Jeremy


Only thing I have heard about the A350 is that the ones they have taken are slightly lower on range (full pax + Cargo) than they were expecting... As a Pax I can tell you the A350 is delightful to fly especially up in D1 Suite... By far the best US3 flight I have ever taken DTW-AMS (A350 N509DN). I have not heard any other rumblings that DL is unhappy with the A350 their new flagship aircraft.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:46 pm

Ugh, this again. DL miscalculated in taking the 268 t MTOW, which is why they have already upgraded the birds to 275 t. There has been no suggestion of unhappiness with anything but the restricted payload-range that stemmed from the lower MTOW.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:02 pm

TropicalSky wrote:
Was n864DA the fastest conversion (4days)so far

Except for the prototype, conversions are taking 3-4 days per frame. Frames taking longer are getting additional work done on top of the conversion.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:15 am

It's amazing the capabilities of TECHOPS


hkcanadaexpat wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
Was n864DA the fastest conversion (4days)so far

Except for the prototype, conversions are taking 3-4 days per frame. Frames taking longer are getting additional work done on top of the conversion.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:17 am

I'm curious....was this a paper upgrade sign off or was it the last batch came with this ability?

seabosdca wrote:
Ugh, this again. DL miscalculated in taking the 268 t MTOW, which is why they have already upgraded the birds to 275 t. There has been no suggestion of unhappiness with anything but the restricted payload-range that stemmed from the lower MTOW.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:30 am

TropicalSky wrote:
I'm curious....was this a paper upgrade sign off or was it the last batch came with this ability?


I don't know the exact timing (whether the latest deliveries were certified for 275 t at delivery), but all of them have been upgraded.

There has been a further upgrade to 280 t which can't be applied to Delta's first 11 birds, although it may be available for the last two if Delta wants it in the future. My theory is that they will start taking 280 t birds with the second batch that they've already said will be used for 777 replacement.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:11 am

seabosdca wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
I'm curious....was this a paper upgrade sign off or was it the last batch came with this ability?


I don't know the exact timing (whether the latest deliveries were certified for 275 t at delivery), but all of them have been upgraded.

There has been a further upgrade to 280 t which can't be applied to Delta's first 11 birds, although it may be available for the last two if Delta wants it in the future. My theory is that they will start taking 280 t birds with the second batch that they've already said will be used for 777 replacement.


On this video, Delta says their latest delivery has an extra 300nm range — which leads me to believe it's the first 280t bird:

https://twitter.com/DeltaNewsHub/status ... 5405772800
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:54 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/8
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:15am JFK-PHX-JFK rotation (N171DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on JFK-AMS-JFK rotation (N179DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 11:15am ATL-PHX-MSP-PHX-ATL rotation (N190DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 752 on 9:55am ATL-MCO-ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N1605)
332: unscheduled swap from 333 on 3:47pm DTW-AMS-DTW rotation (N861NW)
764: LIM-ATL rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N834MH)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on MSP-CDG-MSP rotation (N864DA)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on 6:06pm DTW-LHR-DTW rotation (N805NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 3:33pm MSP-LAS-MSP rotation (N815NW)
333: MSP-DTW ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N815NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:22 am

3/9 apparently Delta 296 went tech due to a one inch crack in leading edge of wing. At least that is what a friend who was supposed to be on flight just said. Still showing as just delayed.
The above post is my opinion. Don't like it? Don't read it.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:37 pm

ALTF4 wrote:
3/9 apparently Delta 296 went tech due to a one inch crack in leading edge of wing. At least that is what a friend who was supposed to be on flight just said. Still showing as just delayed.


its cancelled
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:06 am

jrkmsp wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
I'm curious....was this a paper upgrade sign off or was it the last batch came with this ability?


I don't know the exact timing (whether the latest deliveries were certified for 275 t at delivery), but all of them have been upgraded.

There has been a further upgrade to 280 t which can't be applied to Delta's first 11 birds, although it may be available for the last two if Delta wants it in the future. My theory is that they will start taking 280 t birds with the second batch that they've already said will be used for 777 replacement.


On this video, Delta says their latest delivery has an extra 300nm range — which leads me to believe it's the first 280t bird:

https://twitter.com/DeltaNewsHub/status ... 5405772800

In addition to that, the video mentions the changed wing twist and the new taller winglets, so if it isn't a 280t bird, it's certainly a 280t-ready bird.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:22 am

Will the 797-6 eventually replace the 767-400?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:02 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/9
763ER-high J(T): unscheduled swap from low-J on MCO-MSP-MCO-AMS-MCO rotation (N1613B)
763ER-high J: scheduled additional JFK-ATL flight (N172DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 319 on 4:20pm ATL-JFK flight (N194DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 11:55am on ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N196DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 4:30pm BOS-ATL flight (N173DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 4:00pm on ATL-MCO-ATL rotation - maintenance exit [12 days] (N177DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 1:04pm ATL-BOS flight (N1605)
332: unscheduled swap from 333 on LHR-JFK-LHR (N852NW/N856NW)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 8:15am JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N826MH)
7CD: unscheduled swap from 7HD on MSP-HND-MSP rotation (N865DA)
7CD: NRT-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N866DA)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on LHR-ATL-LHR rotation (N809NW/N813NW)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on ATL-LHR-ATL rotation (N814NW)

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/10
763ER-high J(T): unscheduled swap from low-J on MCO-AMS-MCO rotation (N1613B)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 3:00pm ATL-JFK flight (N172DN)
763ER-high J: FRA-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N174DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 5:27pm JFK-ATL flight (N178DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 7:00am JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N152DL)
763ER-low J: AMS-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N154DL)
763ER-low J: 11:15am ATL-PHX-ATL rotation migrates from 752 effective 3/10 (N155DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 1:55pm on ATL-MCO-ATL rotation (N192DN)
763ER-low J: HNL-UAM-DNA-HNL military charter (N169DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-SCL-ATL rotation (N177DZ)
764: unscheduled swap from 763ER-high J on ATL-BRU-ATL rotation (N827MH)
764: unscheduled swap from 763ER-low J on 11:20am MSP-PHX-ATL rotation (N835MH)
7CD: ATL-NRT flight - conversion exit [4 days] (N862DA)
7CD: MSP-HND route migrates from 7HD effective 3/10 (N864DA)
7CD: NRT-ATL rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N866DA)
77L: unscheduled swap from 7CD on ATL-CDG-MSP rotation (N704DK)
7HD: ATL-BAD-FFD-KWI-HHN-MSP military charter (N860DA)
7HD: unscheduled swap from 7CD on MSP-CDG-ATL rotation (N861DA)
7HD: N867DA scheduled to exit SIN on 3/12
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:04 am

blacksoviet wrote:
Will the 797-6 eventually replace the 767-400?

will a plane that doesn't exist yet replace a plane that has at least 10 years left? sure why not!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:51 pm

I would have never thought in a million years a DL tail would be in Fairford.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:29 pm

Has there been any confirmation yet that N867DA will already have the Comfort + cabin installed, or will we have to wait to see the seat map on its first revenue flight?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:17 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/11
763ER-high J: FRA-ATL rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N174DN)
763ER-high J: N182DN entered L->Z conversion in ATL
763ER-low J: 11:20am MSP-PHX-MSP rotation migrates from 321 effective 3/10 (N155DL)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional MCO-ATL flight (N186DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on 12:58pm ATL-BOS-ATL rotation (N192DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-MCO-BSB-MCO 737 MAX8 rescue flight for partner GOL (N192DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 7:40am SEA-JFK-SEA rotation (N176DZ)
763ER-low J: MCO-GRU route cancelled effective 3/11 (N1603)
763ER-low J: BOS-LHR flight diverted to BOS - tech (N1605)
764: CDG-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N843MH)
7CD: scheduled upgrade from 739 on 7:59pm ATL-MSP flight (N862DA)
7CD: MSP-CDG route migrates from 7HD effective 3/10 (N864DA)
77L: scheduled upgrade from 739 on 3:36pm MSP-ATL flight (N704DK)
7HD: unscheduled swap from 7CD on ATL-CDG-MSP rotation (N861DA)
7HD: SIN-NRT ferry flight - conversion exit [35 days] (N867DA)
333: DTW-MIA-BSB-MIA 737 MAX8 rescue flight for partner GOL (N815NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:25 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/12
763ER-high J(T): scheduled additional MCO-ATL flight (N1613B)
763ER-high J(T): ATL-BOS ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1613B)
763ER-high J(T): BOS-LHR-BOS rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N1613B)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 7:10am JFK-SEA-JFK rotation (N172DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-BRU-ATL rotation (N155DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on 5:32pm SEA-HNL-SEA rotation (N198DN)
763ER-low J: MCO-BSB-MCO 737 MAX8 rescue flight for partner GOL (N1603)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 5:27pm JFK-ATL flight (N1604R)
764: ATL-MIA ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N827MH)
764: unscheduled swap from 763ER-low J on 9:30pm JFK-LAX-JFK rotation (N831MH)
764: MIA-BSB-MIA 737 MAX8 rescue flight for partner GOL (N827MH)
764: ATL-AEX-GTB-ATL military charter (N835MH)
764: CDG-ATL rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N843MH)
7CD: 4:54pm ATL-CDG flight migrates from 7HD effective 3/10 (N864DA)
7HD: MSP-BIF-ATL military charter (N860DA)
7HD: unscheduled swap from 7CD on MSP-CDG-ATL rotation (N861DA)
7HD: NRT-MSP ferry flight - maintenance swap (N867DA)
333: ATL-SLC ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N803NW)
333: AMS-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N820NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:34 pm

Question, is TPA-AMS going seasonal? I don't see any flights after October 25th, and it was initially announced as year-round
https://news.delta.com/delta-s-next-glo ... -york-city
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:18 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/13
763ER-high J(T): PEK-SEA flight cancelled - tech (N1610D)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 75W on 7:10am JFK-SEA flight (N172DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from high-J(T) on SEA-ICN-SEA rotation (N172DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on 7:05pm ATL-LAX flight (N154DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-MUC-ATL rotation (N155DL)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 75W on 3:55pm JFK-SFO-JFK rotation (N180DN)
763ER-low J: MIA-ATL ferry flight - maintenance exit [59 days] (N394DL)
763ER-low J: seasonal JFK-GIG flight ends effective 3/13
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from 764 on 3:00pm ATL-JFK flight (N196DN)
763ER-low J: HNL-NRT flight cancelled - tech (N1201P)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional JFK-ATL flight (N16065)
77L: unschedule swap from 7CD on ATL-CDG-ATL rotation (N701DN)
7HD: N861DA entered 7CD conversion on 3/13
333: AMS-ATL rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N820NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:31 pm

Is 7001 in TechOps at ATL getting the C + cabin installed?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:45 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/14
763ER-high J(T): BOS-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1613B)
763ER-high J: ATL-BIF-JAN-ATL military charter (N171DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from high-J(T) on SEA-PEK-SEA rotation (N172DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-BRU-ATL rotation (N186DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 752 on 4:30pm ATL-MCO flight (N189DN)
763ER-low J: HNL-NRT rescue flight following previous day's cancellation (N1201P)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 752 on 7:00pm ATL-FLL-ATL rotation (N173DZ)
763ER-low J: ATL-GUS ferry flight - paint entry (N173DZ)
763ER-low J: CAN-NRT ferry flight - maintenance exit [39 days] (N178DZ)
7CD: scheduled upgrade from 739 on 7:59pm ATL-MSP flight (N863DA)
7CD: scheduled upgrade from 739 on 3:36pm MSP-ATL flight (N864DA)
7CB: unscheduled swap from 7HD on ATL-CDG-MSP rotation - conversion exit [14 days] (N706DN)
7HD: N860DA entered ATL for 7CD conversion on 3/12
333: PVG-NRT ferry flight - maintenance exit [36 days] (N816NW)
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