BNAMealer wrote:Midwestindy wrote:BNAMealer wrote:
We do have to keep in mind Europe is easier to operate from these markets than Asia, as there is more demand. I do think mid-sized market TPAC will happen, but outside of AUS, I don’t think the business case is there quite yet.
Yes Europe is easier, but that doesn't change whether airport authorities believe they are close to a nonstop flight announcement
On the Austin part, maybe I'm being dense, but Austin seems to lean more towards Europe than Asia compared to the BNA & IND areas with the exception of the large Samsung operation. Furthermore, the AUS-Asia market hasn't been growing as much as you might think: https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news ... s_headline
The article you cited specifically stated 2021 is a good bet for AUS TPAC service, plus, the top unserved long haul destinations are Tokyo and Seoul, even ahead of Paris. Austin’s large “Silicon Valley-esqe” tech presence and larger catchment area make it ripe for an Asian nonstop.
Anyway, I can’t speak for IND, but in BNA’s case, I don’t think we are quite there yet. Outside of Bridgestone and Nissan, what business demand is there? Plus, my indication from the latest master plan meetings seemed to be the runway extension needed to do Asia nonstops is at least 5 years away, further complicating the process.
The 2021 line is what I mentioned when I first explained why I thought Asia service wasn't far away
Midwestindy wrote:Back on the Asia flight talk, AUS is claiming they expect an Asia nonstop flight to take off in 2021, meaning a likely announcement in 2020.
https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news ... ional.html
Given that, I can't imagine IND is far behind AUS in terms of landing a TPAC flight, if they are at all.
Having Tokyo & Seoul ahead of Paris shouldn't be surprising, Paris is surprisingly not a large O&D market for most midsized cities, Frankfurt and London are almost always larger except in summer.
The tech presence doesn't automatically lend itself to service to Asia, just like Indiana's large automative sector doesn't warrant IND having service to Germany. There should be identifiable ties between companies not industries, which I believe IND has.
I do think AUS is a good candidate for TPAC service, but not leaps and bounds ahead of some others.
ThaneC wrote:With Chicago ORD only 177 miles away, I don’t see how a mid-size airport like IND could ever think that a nonstop flight to Asia was realistic and viable. The same thing applies to so many destinations that are already very well-served via Chicago.
The same thing was said about IND-SFO, IND-SEA, IND-Europe, e.t.c