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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:30 am

7455 42586 N7203U 737-7 Southwest Airlines - Storage @ RNT
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7485 42587 N7204U 737-7 Southwest Airlines - Storage @ RNT
7534 65077 EI-HAV 737-8 200 Ryanair - In Storage in the background
Image7485 42587 N7204U 737-7 Southwest Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7510 42588 N7205U 737-7 Southwest Airlines - Storage @ RNT
Image7510 42588 N7205U 737-7 Southwest Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7545 42589 N7206U 737-7 Southwest Airlines - Storage @ RNT
Image7545 42589 N7206U 737-7 Southwest Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7559 65078 EI-HAW 737-8 200 Ryanair - Storage @ RNT
Image7559 65078 EI-HAW 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7607 EI-HAX 737-8 200 Ryanair - Painted & Placed into Storage @ RNT
Image7607 EI-HAX 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7625 61451 B-20AR 737-8 Shandong Airlines
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:46 am

Tracking MAX Production https://737-max.blogspot.com/
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:16 am

Seeing the red tape under L1 on the Ryanair birds, do they have their own stairs or is that door for something else?
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:27 am

Beedo46 wrote:
Seeing the red tape under L1 on the Ryanair birds, do they have their own stairs or is that door for something else?


Airstairs.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:27 pm

I wonder how many of these stored frames will never see the light of the day in their current paint scheme as the operator goes belly up before delivery.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:12 pm

7BOEING7 wrote:
Beedo46 wrote:
Seeing the red tape under L1 on the Ryanair birds, do they have their own stairs or is that door for something else?


Airstairs.


Thank you. I was wondering if this was still an option. I remember when I was young seeing them on DC-9s and the tail stairs on 727s and DC-9s.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:20 pm

How many Max are grounded right now?
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:39 pm

danipawa wrote:
How many Max are grounded right now?
all of them ;-)

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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:40 pm

Beedo46 wrote:
7BOEING7 wrote:
Beedo46 wrote:
Seeing the red tape under L1 on the Ryanair birds, do they have their own stairs or is that door for something else?


Airstairs.


Thank you. I was wondering if this was still an option. I remember when I was young seeing them on DC-9s and the tail stairs on 727s and DC-9s.


Ryanair is one of the very few airlines that get the option but airstairs are beneficial to their operation.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:55 pm

I wonder if the airstairs on the MAX are slightly modified to account for the increase in height of the nose gear.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:44 pm

China Southern 737MAX8 B-209A departing PAE for storage at MWH (9 Jul)

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Hainan 737MAX8 B-209L and China Southern 737MAX8 B-208F positioning to MWH from PAE for storage (11 Jul)

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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:55 pm

737-8 Somon Air Rudder Spotted
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7415 63277 B-208F 737-8 China Southern - Ferry flight from PAE-MWH
Image7415 63277 B-208F 737-8 China Southern by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7451 62182 B-209L 737-8 Hainan Airlines - Ferry flight from PAE-MWH
Image7451 62182 B-209L 737-8 Hainan Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7624 61712 737-8 Kunming Airlines - Painted
Image7624 61712 737-8 Kunming Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7631 60916 B-20C0 737-8 Air China - Painted
Image7631 60916 B-20C0 737-8 Air China by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7669 737-8 Sriwijaya Air
Image7669 737-8 Sriwijaya Air by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:09 am

-7 have 2 over wing exits didn’t know that. Can’t wait to see one of them in person.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:01 am

Boeing is still producing the MAX... if the ban will not lift soon, do you know if the production should be stopped?
Thanks
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:44 pm

anair79 wrote:
Boeing is still producing the MAX... if the ban will not lift soon, do you know if the production should be stopped?


Boeing can't really stop because their suppliers are still making shipsets so the entire production chain would need to be suspended and then resumed and that would be extremely expensive and time-consuming.

As the fix looks to be primarily software and an additional AoA sensor, the amount of re-work needed to return the fleet to service on a per-plane basis should not be too much so even if the grounding continues on into the Fall, it is better to keep building the planes and then parking them in the desert so they do not disrupt the production chain.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:05 pm

Stitch wrote:
anair79 wrote:
Boeing is still producing the MAX... if the ban will not lift soon, do you know if the production should be stopped?


Boeing can't really stop because their suppliers are still making shipsets so the entire production chain would need to be suspended and then resumed and that would be extremely expensive and time-consuming.

As the fix looks to be primarily software and an additional AoA sensor, the amount of re-work needed to return the fleet to service on a per-plane basis should not be too much so even if the grounding continues on into the Fall, it is better to keep building the planes and then parking them in the desert so they do not disrupt the production chain.


Stich I haven't been following the massive grounding thread, so this is news to me, they are adding a 3rd redundant sensor now? To not highjack this thread if you have a link I would love to read more about this!
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:43 pm

Stitch wrote:
anair79 wrote:
Boeing is still producing the MAX... if the ban will not lift soon, do you know if the production should be stopped?


Boeing can't really stop because their suppliers are still making shipsets so the entire production chain would need to be suspended and then resumed and that would be extremely expensive and time-consuming.

As the fix looks to be primarily software and an additional AoA sensor, the amount of re-work needed to return the fleet to service on a per-plane basis should not be too much so even if the grounding continues on into the Fall, it is better to keep building the planes and then parking them in the desert so they do not disrupt the production chain.

No halt to production, but perhaps not far from seeking Government assistance similar to that provided to the vehicle industry almost a decade ago.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:56 pm

smartplane wrote:
Stitch wrote:
anair79 wrote:
Boeing is still producing the MAX... if the ban will not lift soon, do you know if the production should be stopped?


Boeing can't really stop because their suppliers are still making shipsets so the entire production chain would need to be suspended and then resumed and that would be extremely expensive and time-consuming.

As the fix looks to be primarily software and an additional AoA sensor, the amount of re-work needed to return the fleet to service on a per-plane basis should not be too much so even if the grounding continues on into the Fall, it is better to keep building the planes and then parking them in the desert so they do not disrupt the production chain.

No halt to production, but perhaps not far from seeking Government assistance similar to those provided to the vehicle industry almost a decade ago.


Why would Boeing need any government assistance? I mean they are wildly profitable company, I do not see any need for that at the present moment.
In Q1 of this year they had revenues of $22.9B, they had operating income of over $2B, they had cash (or equivilant) of $6.8B.
Yes, they are burning cash due to the grounding and such and really those costs will only get bigger.
They are still delivering planes, just not the 737 Max, they continue to deliver on all of the defense contracts.
As much of this is not good, I do not see how politically anybody could say they deserve a taxpayer bailout.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:14 pm

So something that popped to mind. We often see little bits of text on liveries that detail the plane model. Things like Boeing 767, Dreamliner, or Airbus A330.

I can imagine most airlines with the MAX will be removing that bit of text from the paintjob as soon as they get delivery. I know the airlines will still fly them. It's just removing that little bit of advertising will help not advertise to the flying public not into aircraft that the plane they're about to board is a MAX.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:23 pm

ordbosewr wrote:
smartplane wrote:
Stitch wrote:

Boeing can't really stop because their suppliers are still making shipsets so the entire production chain would need to be suspended and then resumed and that would be extremely expensive and time-consuming.

As the fix looks to be primarily software and an additional AoA sensor, the amount of re-work needed to return the fleet to service on a per-plane basis should not be too much so even if the grounding continues on into the Fall, it is better to keep building the planes and then parking them in the desert so they do not disrupt the production chain.

No halt to production, but perhaps not far from seeking Government assistance similar to those provided to the vehicle industry almost a decade ago.


Why would Boeing need any government assistance? I mean they are wildly profitable company, I do not see any need for that at the present moment.
In Q1 of this year they had revenues of $22.9B, they had operating income of over $2B, they had cash (or equivilant) of $6.8B.
Yes, they are burning cash due to the grounding and such and really those costs will only get bigger.
They are still delivering planes, just not the 737 Max, they continue to deliver on all of the defense contracts.
As much of this is not good, I do not see how politically anybody could say they deserve a taxpayer bailout.

The taxpayer guaranteeing some credit lines would be useful soon.

Not just issues with undelivered MAX. For example, BCC finance Boeing aircraft, and then re-package (different models and lessees) and sell on. Can't on-sell MAX portfolio, and lessee payments suspended. Some customers use BCC for pre-shipment finance, with no prospects of take out for the forseeable future. BCC funding multiple undelivered military aircraft the subject of disputes.

Credit lines due for renewal, may be cancelled or suspended for the duration of the grounding. In fact the financial magnitude of the grounding, will be a trigger event to review all current credit lines, including those in use, irrespective of expiry date.

Lets see if the utilisation, availability and composition of credit lines has changed sufficiently to trigger comment in Q2 reporting.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:28 pm

ZaphodHarkonnen wrote:
So something that popped to mind. We often see little bits of text on liveries that detail the plane model. Things like Boeing 767, Dreamliner, or Airbus A330.

I can imagine most airlines with the MAX will be removing that bit of text from the paintjob as soon as they get delivery. I know the airlines will still fly them. It's just removing that little bit of advertising will help not advertise to the flying public not into aircraft that the plane they're about to board is a MAX.


So I just literally found out about the Ryanair 737-8200 thing. Looks like one is heading that way.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:14 am

7559 65078 EI-HAW 737-8 200 Ryanair - Removed from storage.
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Image7559 65078 EI-HAW 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7629 EI-HAY 737-8 200 Ryanair - Painted without the word "MAX" on the nose, but instead the model number "737-8200"
Image7629 EI-HAY 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
Image7629 EI-HAY 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7649 61241 737-8 Air Canada
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7650 62872 737-8 Neos
Image7650 62872 737-8 Neos by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7652 44870 N969BA 737-8 Boeing
Image7652 44870 N969BA 737-8 Boeing by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7654 62874 737-8 Smartwings
Image7654 62874 737-8 Smartwings by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7656 60444 737-8 NordStar Airlines
Image7656 60444 737-8 NordStar Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7673 43461 N37523 737-9 United Airlines
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:36 am

Noticed that freshly painted Air China bird has " 737-8" painted on the nose,
no MAX signage to be found. More evidence the Max branding be allowed to fade into history
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:52 am

Maybe the smart move is to just put "Boeing Aircraft" on the fuselage.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:36 am

So most of these 737s have undergone most of the test flights prior to storage or just one to get it away from Renton? I cant wait to see how quickly they get through the backlog of deliveries. Hope to see them in the air soon!
Flown on: PC12 CRJ9 E175 DC9 MD88 MD90 319 320 321 712 737 738 739 752 753 763 77E 77L 744
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:56 am

Sooner787 wrote:
Noticed that freshly painted Air China bird has " 737-8" painted on the nose,
no MAX signage to be found. More evidence the Max branding be allowed to fade into history


Air China still has the MAX branding. It’s located on the rear half of the aircraft below the cheat line. “737 MAX 8”
Tracking MAX Production https://737-max.blogspot.com/
 
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Sriwijaya Air Boeing 737 MAX

Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:36 pm

What is going on with Sriwijaya Air Boeing 737-8?
http://737-max.blogspot.com/2019/07/sri ... n7669.html
 
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Re: Sriwijaya Air Boeing 737 MAX

Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:43 pm

Looks like it’s in production to me. What exactly are you asking?
 
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Re: Sriwijaya Air Boeing 737 MAX

Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:57 pm

N809FR wrote:
Looks like it’s in production to me. What exactly are you asking?

Since Garuda’s Citilink is in control of Sriwijaya we all know that Garuda is trying to cancel 737 max so why are they getting delivery if they are trying not to get the max?
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:38 pm

Maybe it's time to bring back the original ordering airlines code number 737-836 etc etc
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:32 pm

smartplane wrote:
ordbosewr wrote:
smartplane wrote:
No halt to production, but perhaps not far from seeking Government assistance similar to those provided to the vehicle industry almost a decade ago.


Why would Boeing need any government assistance? I mean they are wildly profitable company, I do not see any need for that at the present moment.
In Q1 of this year they had revenues of $22.9B, they had operating income of over $2B, they had cash (or equivilant) of $6.8B.
Yes, they are burning cash due to the grounding and such and really those costs will only get bigger.
They are still delivering planes, just not the 737 Max, they continue to deliver on all of the defense contracts.
As much of this is not good, I do not see how politically anybody could say they deserve a taxpayer bailout.

The taxpayer guaranteeing some credit lines would be useful soon.

Not just issues with undelivered MAX. For example, BCC finance Boeing aircraft, and then re-package (different models and lessees) and sell on. Can't on-sell MAX portfolio, and lessee payments suspended. Some customers use BCC for pre-shipment finance, with no prospects of take out for the forseeable future. BCC funding multiple undelivered military aircraft the subject of disputes.

Credit lines due for renewal, may be cancelled or suspended for the duration of the grounding. In fact the financial magnitude of the grounding, will be a trigger event to review all current credit lines, including those in use, irrespective of expiry date.

Lets see if the utilisation, availability and composition of credit lines has changed sufficiently to trigger comment in Q2 reporting.


Um... no. If Boeing needs more money, they can do it the traditional way. They have been using their tax breaks and profits to buy back shares and reward investors. That's perfectly alright, but then you go to those same investors and ask them for help when you need to improve your cash flow. Reissue some of that stock you bought back and raise cash that way. Taxpayers have done enough.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:55 pm

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
7652 44870 N969BA 737-8 Boeing
Image7652 44870 N969BA 737-8 Boeing by 737 MAX Production

Who will be the future operator of this 737? Is it a BBJ?
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:19 pm

Beedo46 wrote:
7BOEING7 wrote:
Beedo46 wrote:
Seeing the red tape under L1 on the Ryanair birds, do they have their own stairs or is that door for something else?


Airstairs.


Thank you. I was wondering if this was still an option. I remember when I was young seeing them on DC-9s and the tail stairs on 727s and DC-9s.



We used the Ryanair 737-800s aircraft airstairs last week. Ground handling were too slow for the company!
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:30 am

Sooner787 wrote:
Noticed that freshly painted Air China bird has " 737-8" painted on the nose,
no MAX signage to be found. More evidence the Max branding be allowed to fade into history


The Hainan one is changed as well.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:32 am

airlinerart wrote:
Beedo46 wrote:
7BOEING7 wrote:

Airstairs.


Thank you. I was wondering if this was still an option. I remember when I was young seeing them on DC-9s and the tail stairs on 727s and DC-9s.



We used the Ryanair 737-800s aircraft airstairs last week. Ground handling were too slow for the company!


Watching videos made the turn look quicker. Stairs could also allow for smaller airports that might be short on equipment.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:17 am

Beedo46 wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
Noticed that freshly painted Air China bird has " 737-8" painted on the nose,
no MAX signage to be found. More evidence the Max branding be allowed to fade into history


The Hainan one is changed as well.


The Hainan hasn’t changed theirs. In the picture above you can see it still says 737 MAX 8 on the rear half of the fuselage just like the Air China.
Tracking MAX Production https://737-max.blogspot.com/
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:03 am

7510 42588 N7205U 737-7 Southwest Airlines
Image7510 42588 N7205U 737-7 Southwest Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7559 65078 EI-HAW 737-8 200 Ryanair - Removed from storage at Renton
Image7559 65078 EI-HAW 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7607 EI-HAX 737-8 200 Ryanair - Removed from storage at Renton & Engine runs preformed
Image7607 EI-HAX 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7629 EI-HAY 737-8 200 Ryanair - Fueled and 1st engine start.
Image7629 EI-HAY 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7630 61146 B-20CH 737-8 Shenzhen Airlines
Image7630 61146 B-20CH 737-8 Shenzhen Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7639 61242 C-GEPF 737-8 Air Canada
Image7639 61242 C-GEPF 737-8 Air Canada by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7641 61858 SU-TMO 737-8 FlyEgypt
Image7641 61858 SU-TMO 737-8 FlyEgypt by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7645 61645 B-20CC 737-8 Shanghai Airlines - Inside the P-8 Line
Image7645 61645 B-20CC 737-8 Shanghai Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7649 61241 C-GEPG 737-8 Air Canada
Image7649 61241 C-GEPG 737-8 Air Canada by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7650 62872 EI-RZC 737-8 Neos
Image7650 62872 EI-RZC 737-8 Neos by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7653 44305 VQ-BXY 737-8 NordStar Airlines
Image7653 44305 VQ-BXY 737-8 NordStar Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7654 62874 OK-SWQ 737-8 Smartwings
Image7654 62874 OK-SWQ 737-8 Smartwings by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7655 43012 737-8 Lion Air
Image7655 43012 737-8 Lion Air by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7660 64707 737-8 Lucky Air
Image7660 64707 737-8 Lucky Air by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7670 43995 PR-XMK 737-8 Gol Transportes Aéreos
Image7670 43995 PR-XMK 737-8 Gol Transportes Aéreos by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7676 61147 737-8 Shenzhen Airlines
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:12 am

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
The Hainan hasn’t changed theirs. In the picture above you can see it still says 737 MAX 8 on the rear half of the fuselage just like the Air China.


Thank you for keeping us updated.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:06 pm

7545 42589 N7206U 737-7 Southwest Airlines - Painted
Image7545 42589 N7206U 737-7 Southwest Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7622 63438 HL8350 737-8 Korean Air
Image7622 63438 HL8350 737-8 Korean Air by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7647 60917 B-20C1 737-8 Air China
Image7647 60917 B-20C1 737-8 Air China by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7651 61450 B-20AX 737-8 Shandong Airlines
Image7651 61450 B-20AX 737-8 Shandong Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7653 44305 VQ-BXY 737-8 NordStar Airlines
Image7653 44305 VQ-BXY 737-8 NordStar Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7657 737-8 Blue Air
Image7657 737-8 Blue Air by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7658 737-8 SpiceJet
Image7658 737-8 SpiceJet by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7677 737-8 China Southern
Image7677 737-8 China Southern by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7678 737-8 Aeromexico
Image7678 737-8 Aeromexico by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7682 737-9 Alaska Airlines
Image7682 737-9 Alaska Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
Tracking MAX Production https://737-max.blogspot.com/
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:15 pm

Man, the job of clearing the backlog of undelivered frames is going to be massive.
Read some estimates of taking all of 2020 to clear the ramps. I think they may well
be right.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:48 pm

A picture of MAX's stored at MWH by Royal S King

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Source: https://twitter.com/royalscottking/status/1152947550732746754?s=20
Tracking MAX Production https://737-max.blogspot.com/
 
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PacoMartin
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:07 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
Man, the job of clearing the backlog of undelivered frames is going to be massive.
Read some estimates of taking all of 2020 to clear the ramps. I think they may well
be right.

It just boggles the mind. I can't think of anything on this scale in all of industry.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:23 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
Man, the job of clearing the backlog of undelivered frames is going to be massive.
Read some estimates of taking all of 2020 to clear the ramps. I think they may well
be right.


Not a chance it takes that long. They will gone much more quickly than they came in.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:32 pm

MSPNWA wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
Man, the job of clearing the backlog of undelivered frames is going to be massive.
Read some estimates of taking all of 2020 to clear the ramps. I think they may well
be right.


Not a chance it takes that long. They will gone much more quickly than they came in.


Well maybe, maybe not. It depends on how many airplanes are in the backlog, what the current rate is and how fast or slow the customers want the airplanes. Each airplane has flown a B-1 (Boeing 1st flight) and any issues would have been cleaned up on the ferry flight to wherever they were being stored. Coming out of storage they'll do an FCF (functional check flight) and if everything is OK they'll be "bought FAA" which means they can be transferred to the customer. Many customers waive the C-1 (customer flight) so no further flights would be necessary. For those customers that don't waive the C-1 another flight would be required. IMHO Logistically the nightmare is the paperwork -- the process of going from an FAA buy to customer contractual delivery. I think they'll fly all the offsite airplanes (Moses Lake and San Antonio) back to Boeing Field initially and deliver the Paine airplanes at Paine. When Paine is cleaned out some of the offsite will return to Paine for delivery. If they can get the manpower (they have plenty of pilots) I could see delivering 1-2 airplanes a day 7 days a week. Plenty of overtime coming up.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:42 pm

Anyone know when the first TAROM 737MAX will roll out?
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:23 am

7BOEING7 wrote:
MSPNWA wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
Man, the job of clearing the backlog of undelivered frames is going to be massive.
Read some estimates of taking all of 2020 to clear the ramps. I think they may well
be right.


Not a chance it takes that long. They will gone much more quickly than they came in.


Well maybe, maybe not. It depends on how many airplanes are in the backlog, what the current rate is and how fast or slow the customers want the airplanes. Each airplane has flown a B-1 (Boeing 1st flight) and any issues would have been cleaned up on the ferry flight to wherever they were being stored. Coming out of storage they'll do an FCF (functional check flight) and if everything is OK they'll be "bought FAA" which means they can be transferred to the customer. Many customers waive the C-1 (customer flight) so no further flights would be necessary. For those customers that don't waive the C-1 another flight would be required. IMHO Logistically the nightmare is the paperwork -- the process of going from an FAA buy to customer contractual delivery. I think they'll fly all the offsite airplanes (Moses Lake and San Antonio) back to Boeing Field initially and deliver the Paine airplanes at Paine. When Paine is cleaned out some of the offsite will return to Paine for delivery. If they can get the manpower (they have plenty of pilots) I could see delivering 1-2 airplanes a day 7 days a week. Plenty of overtime coming up.


The PAE ones are being shipped out to MWH. 9 of the 30 that were there have gone already over the past week or so.

When the FAA eventually gives the green light I can see AA, WN and UA frames going first as I foresee the aviation authorities elsewhere in the world will want to carry out their own checks before letting it fly again which will add extra delays.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:17 am

I thought this thread is about 737MAX deliveries?
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:22 am

cskok8 wrote:
I thought this thread is about 737MAX deliveries?


Well, if you read the title, it’s about production, too. Moreover, there are no deliveries...so what do you propose?
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