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Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:14 pm

Any signs of the first Max 10 at RNT? I recall the fuselage arriving sometime in 1Q '19,
but I assume it's in storage somewhere in the factory?
 
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Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:16 pm

Is it just me or do a lot of these have the same reg number painted on? 1786B
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:10 pm

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Is it just me or do a lot of these have the same reg number painted on? 1786B

That is one of the test regs that Boeing uses.
 
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Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:20 pm

Polot wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Is it just me or do a lot of these have the same reg number painted on? 1786B

That is one of the test regs that Boeing uses.


Surely it can’t be legal to have the same number in multiple airplanes simultaneously? Or are they not considered airplanes yet since they are still in “production”? What happens if they need to fly 2 of them on the same day?
 
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Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:35 pm

They change one or more of the numbers with a sticker over the top. Eg. one will fly as the 'default' N1786B, another one may be N1787B, a 3rd frame on the same day could be N1796B. There are specific groups of temporary numbers for specific flight types.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:02 pm

Good day everyone, if I remember correctly, Caribbean Airlines will have taken delivery of their first 737MAX in Q4 of this year so I assume this first 737MAX should be in (final) production now. Are there any photos of this bird?

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Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:24 pm

The first one I'm seeing is mid way in the 7900s so a long time until it hits the factory yet. But with all the white tails floating about at the moment they might take one of those but I'm not aware of any currently.
 
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Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:03 pm

Gol is taking Jet NTU units of the MAX 8, first one N420PK (s/n 44872): link in spanish

https://aviacionaldia.com/2019/10/la-br ... rways.html
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:36 am

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7779 737-8 Urumqi Air
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7782 737-8 Xiamen Airlines - Will be a special livery based on rudder that matches their UN "United Dream" 787-9
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:45 pm

I count more than 50 tails on that bottom picture (Thanks, Royal, by the way!). What would be the approximative value of such an inventory?
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:56 pm

qf789 wrote:
A few 737MAX in storage at MWH

Understatement of the year ;-)

Seriously, thanks for posting these pictures.
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:01 pm

How many are stored there now? 140? Any other sites now being considered?
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:14 pm

LN-MOW wrote:
How many are stored there now? 140? Any other sites now being considered?

Once MWH is full I would expect SAT might be next. No idea how much empty space they have there though. Wonder how long till they have to start using non-Boeing facilities.
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:23 pm

Aircellist wrote:
I count more than 50 tails on that bottom picture (Thanks, Royal, by the way!). What would be the approximative value of such an inventory?


The list price * 55-60%?
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:40 am

Once the FAA says go...at what rate can 737's be delivered? I have no idea what the process is but I have a feeling there is a little more to it then telling the airlines to go to MWH and pick up their jets. Do the airlines have to take them all at once. I think most airlines have additional work to do on each jet before entry into service and they might not want them all at once. Is that an issue?
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:57 am

LGeneReese wrote:
Once MWH is full I would expect SAT might be next. No idea how much empty space they have there though. Wonder how long till they have to start using non-Boeing facilities.


They’ve already got Kelly Field to capacity, I think. Not SAT, which is the commercial airport.
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:46 am

Passedv1 wrote:
Once the FAA says go...at what rate can 737's be delivered? I have no idea what the process is but I have a feeling there is a little more to it then telling the airlines to go to MWH and pick up their jets. Do the airlines have to take them all at once. I think most airlines have additional work to do on each jet before entry into service and they might not want them all at once. Is that an issue?


think i remember reading those coming off FAL are priority for deliveries with the aim to clear the parked at a rate of 10 to 15 a month! I'm sure that's fluid and subject to change, but dont think updating and readying the parked craft is as straightforward as some think!
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:44 am

qf789 wrote:
A few 737MAX in storage at MWH

Image


Even the "chistmas tree" alert ramp is being used for storage.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:45 am

Passedv1 wrote:
Once the FAA says go...at what rate can 737's be delivered? I have no idea what the process is but I have a feeling there is a little more to it then telling the airlines to go to MWH and pick up their jets. Do the airlines have to take them all at once. I think most airlines have additional work to do on each jet before entry into service and they might not want them all at once. Is that an issue?

UA puts new deliveries though a 10 day (give or take) induction process where proprietary software, equipment and other gizzwizzes are installed. I’m sure they have special plans in place when they get the green light, but I can’t see tech ops working more than two at a time... Can but wait/see..
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:51 pm

Passedv1 wrote:
Once the FAA says go...at what rate can 737's be delivered? I have no idea what the process is but I have a feeling there is a little more to it then telling the airlines to go to MWH and pick up their jets. Do the airlines have to take them all at once. I think most airlines have additional work to do on each jet before entry into service and they might not want them all at once. Is that an issue?


There will have to be a phased delivery scheduled due to constraints both on Boeing's and the airline's side. Airlines won't have enough pilots and acceptance personnel to take their entire backlog nor will Boeing have the staff to support it.

We will also almost certainly see a rolling re-certification process from the various regulatory agencies. So should the FAA be first, the other agencies (EASA, Transport Canada, etc.) will need to issue their own Return to Service directives before airlines under their jurisdiction can start to take delivery.
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:36 pm

Southwest said their priority would be their newly built but undelivered frames. Have no idea how many frames we're
talking about.

Once those are in service they would then turn their attention to the 34 jets in storage at VCV
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:57 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Aircellist wrote:
I count more than 50 tails on that bottom picture (Thanks, Royal, by the way!). What would be the approximative value of such an inventory?


The list price * 55-60%?


Thank you * 55-60% :)
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:33 am

Passedv1 wrote:
Once the FAA says go...at what rate can 737's be delivered? I have no idea what the process is but I have a feeling there is a little more to it then telling the airlines to go to MWH and pick up their jets. Do the airlines have to take them all at once. I think most airlines have additional work to do on each jet before entry into service and they might not want them all at once. Is that an issue?


Dennis Muilenburg said yesterday that assuming the MAX is ungrounded by Christmas, he expected the majority of stored MAXes to be delivered in 2020, but that it was clear that some would slip into 2021 (without any clarification of numbers). As Stitch pointed out, the rate at which the stored planes can be delivered isn’t just dependent on Boeing.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:00 am

scbriml wrote:
Passedv1 wrote:
Once the FAA says go...at what rate can 737's be delivered? I have no idea what the process is but I have a feeling there is a little more to it then telling the airlines to go to MWH and pick up their jets. Do the airlines have to take them all at once. I think most airlines have additional work to do on each jet before entry into service and they might not want them all at once. Is that an issue?


Dennis Muilenburg said yesterday that assuming the MAX is ungrounded by Christmas, he expected the majority of stored MAXes to be delivered in 2020, but that it was clear that some would slip into 2021 (without any clarification of numbers). As Stitch pointed out, the rate at which the stored planes can be delivered isn’t just dependent on Boeing.


I must admit, I say to myself "ahh it wont take long" but I forget the sheer number stored all over the place!! Are Boeing any closer to demonstrating to the FAA that the issue is resolved? :tapedshut:
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:04 pm

scbriml wrote:
Passedv1 wrote:
Once the FAA says go...at what rate can 737's be delivered? I have no idea what the process is but I have a feeling there is a little more to it then telling the airlines to go to MWH and pick up their jets. Do the airlines have to take them all at once. I think most airlines have additional work to do on each jet before entry into service and they might not want them all at once. Is that an issue?


Dennis Muilenburg said yesterday that assuming the MAX is ungrounded by Christmas, he expected the majority of stored MAXes to be delivered in 2020, but that it was clear that some would slip into 2021 (without any clarification of numbers). As Stitch pointed out, the rate at which the stored planes can be delivered isn’t just dependent on Boeing.



This is what Leeham wrote:

Leeham wrote:
The company [Boeing] is hiring scores of temporary workers to return grounded and built but not yet delivered airframes. A note from Alliance Bernstein estimates that Boeing will be able to hand over 25 aircraft per month on top of those that come off the assembly line.


https://leehamnews.com/2019/10/21/preferred-737-max-return-to-service-timeline-for-airlines/
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:08 am

Love these photos. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:31 am

How many have been completed and not delivered now? Do we know?
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:05 am

Any signs of the Aeromexico 737-9MAX?
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:18 am

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Any signs of the Aeromexico 737-9MAX?

There are 2 in storage at MWH
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How many have been completed and not delivered now? Do we know?

320+ in storage not counting what’s in flight testing, preflight prep, or final assembly.
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:21 pm

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
How many have been completed and not delivered now? Do we know?

320+ in storage not counting what’s in flight testing, preflight prep, or final assembly.


Thanks. I was just curious how many would have been delivered that are finished if they weren’t grounded. Once they are un grounded how many can they deliver a day? How long til they can deliver the backlog? Or maybe they will depend on how long it takes to do the updates to each one.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:41 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
How many have been completed and not delivered now? Do we know?

320+ in storage not counting what’s in flight testing, preflight prep, or final assembly.


Thanks. I was just curious how many would have been delivered that are finished if they weren’t grounded. Once they are un grounded how many can they deliver a day? How long til they can deliver the backlog? Or maybe they will depend on how long it takes to do the updates to each one.


DM said that while “the majority” would be delivered in 2020, it was inevitable that some would slip into 2021 (assuming they were ungrounded 4Q2019). He didn’t specify numbers and “majority” could be as low as 50% +1. Boeing is also dependent on the pace at which airlines can accept the planes. My understanding is that new builds out of the factory will take precedence over stored planes (which makes sense).
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:42 pm

[quote="WoodysAeroimag"]6744 42561 N7201S 737-7 Southwest Airlines - FAA Test flight
/quote]

Is this the test flight for re-certification??
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:00 pm

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WoodysAeroimag wrote:
6744 42561 N7201S 737-7 Southwest Airlines - FAA Test flight
/quote]

Is this the test flight for re-certification??

That is my understanding.
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Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:58 pm

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
nycbjr wrote:
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
6744 42561 N7201S 737-7 Southwest Airlines - FAA Test flight
/quote]

Is this the test flight for re-certification??

That is my understanding.


Wow thats great, hadn't seen this reported anywhere!
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:28 pm

nycbjr wrote:
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
nycbjr wrote:

That is my understanding.


Wow thats great, hadn't seen this reported anywhere!

Seems Boeing has not made any announcements around the flight test nor the hand off of software/documentation to FAA, probably to reduce the pressure on those doing the work to get the aircraft flying again.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:38 pm

SpiceJet 737MAX8 VT-MXN departing PAE for storage at MWH

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Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:15 pm

Hi guys, love the delivery/production thread keep up the good work. With the Dubai air show coming up and Working in the Middle East I’ve been trying to find out how many FlyDubai max have been built since the grounding. Im aware they have 14 delivered with 2 max 8’s in storage in Renton A6- FML and FMM the were finished during the grounding .With the second biggest orders after Southwest I haven’t seen one picture of a new build or any spotted plane going into storage since. Does anyone know how many built since March 12?
 
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:52 pm

FMK & FML are at Plant 2 next to BFI. FMM is it Grant County. A further 3 are in the process of being built.
 
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:27 pm

Thank Rob, great to know 3 being built . I would have thought there would be at least one FZ plane coming off the line per month with the size of the order. I know they are desperately in need of airframes when the max does return.

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