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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:51 pm

Folks, we redirected all A220 talk at LCY to another thread as it was derailing this thread.

This is the production/delivery thread. Per user requests we try to limit posts to that. Please post pictures, information about flight tests, production facility enhancements, delivery of components/shipsets, but take LCY, orders, and any discussion vs. the competition off thread.

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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:41 pm

In my previous post I showed the rendering of the compleated A220 & A320 Mobile FAL facilities. I was refering to the three flight line hangars that will be available.
On May 9 Airbus Mobile Final Assembly Line GM Daryl Taylor Facebook showed this image from the last structural steel being mounted for the flight line hangar. l think it's one of these hangars that will temporaraly be used to assemble some A220-300s. Now nearly two months later, the hangar construction should have progressed a lot.
I think assembling A220s in the A320 FAL building will cause problems for the A320 production flow.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:22 pm


airnorth wrote:
Great post mfranjic, lots of facts and background information, I appreciate the hard work!



keesje wrote:
Mario, great info! You put a lot of time and effort in collecting & structuring. Maybe you can considering spreading it out in a number of post & reducing hot links and logo’s. Otherwise it is hard to read and process ;). Still great to have you here


Thank You, airnorth!
Thank You, keesje!

Thank You very much to both of You for the words of praise and recognizing the hard work in the background of my post.


Image.Image.A220-100 ( Bombardier C Series CS100 / BD-500-1A10 ); MSN 50018, reg. HB-JBI, delivered on 02. July 2019 is SWISS#.9 Airbus A220-100 aircraft;

…..On the Image.(please click on the image below)

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….Swiss International Air Lines AG’s 9th Image.A220-100 ( Bombardier.C Series CS100 / BD-500-1A10 ) aircraft (MTOW: 60.781 kg / 134.000 lb); MSN 50018, reg. HB-JBI, test reg. C-FOYF, with the cabin configuration CY125 and powered by two Image.PW1524G, ‘2,5’-shaft, high-bypass, geared, turbofan engine (fan diameter: 1.854,2 mm / 73,0 in; BPR: 12,0:1; gear ratio: 3,0625:1; eng. architecture: 1F-]G[-3LPC–8HPC〧2HPT–3LPT), OPR: 50,0:1, each rated at 108,54 kN / 11.068 kgf / 24.400 lbf, was delivered to LX on 02. July 2019, flying on the route YMX - ZRH (FLT LX5201). The aircraft first flew on 15. June 2019.

SWISSAirbus 220-100; MSN 50018, reg. HB-JBI - delivery flight LX5201 (click on the image for the link)
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SWISSAirbus A220-100, reg. HB-JBI, is the 23rd Image.A220 aircraft that left the factory in 2019 and 78th altogether for the 5 different airlines. Of that number, 27 aircraft are of the type A220-100 and 51 of the type A220-300.
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The list of delivered Bombardier C Series / Airbus A220 aircraft / 05. July 2019
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……..Bombardier C Series / Airbus A220 aircraft - deliveries by the airlines / 05. July 2019
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:38 am

Mario I hope you also made note of how hard it is to read
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:39 am


Canuck600 wrote:
…Mario I hope you also made note of how hard it is to read


You have to be a bit more specific in Your statement because something can be hard to read because of a several reasons…
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If the problem is in this post's clear visibility I have to say I could have easily read it on the several different PCs, with the different operating systems (Win XP and Win 7) with the different Internet browsers (IE8, IE11, Opera 12.18, Opera 36.0 and Firefox 52.9). Likewise, I could have easily read it on the Tablet (Android 6.0 Marshmallow), although not as well as on my PC, only because of the pretty smaller screen. For those who want to follow the forums at all costs on their smart phones, I would like to say that the forums were existing before those modern telecommunication devices and you can't really expect them being suitable for any purpose, including reading the forums, and to serve as the replacement for all the devices we have been using before them, like desktop PCs and the laptops …
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If You find difficult my posts to read, just skip them, please! Why burdening Yourself at all by reading them if they cause any problem for You? You will not lose anything in Your life if You don’t read them. Really… There are also and those others who like to read my posts and do not have any problems…
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Otherwise, in creating my posts I simultaneously use Win XP (home) and Win 7 (work), with mainly 20 year old software installed on my two desktop PCs (both i5-3470 CPU @ 3,20 GHz)…
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P.S. I do not intend to change the concept of my posts and adapt them to the individual needs and wishes, the same way as I do not even think about it to complain to the other members about the way they do create their posts.
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:48 am

See the points that Keeje made. The information is good it's just way it's laid out in a big jumble.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:06 pm

Great info Mario, a couple suggestions below:

The engine manufacturer column could be deleted, they're all "Pratt and Whitney." It is interesting to see the engine rating selected by each airline, but I have to wonder how accurate that is. Airlines sometimes change that after delivery.

Also, imho, the test registration column could be deleted. Who cares about the registration worn during pre delivery flights?

Deleting these columns woild make the chart a little less "busy."
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:52 pm

Mario,

People complaining that your posts are hard to read is like: "Mummy, I don't want this unicorn! I want a unicorn with rainbow fur!"

mfranjic wrote:
P.S. I do not intend to change the concept of my posts and adapt them to the individual needs and wishes, the same way as I do not even think about it to complain to the other members about the way they do create their posts.


:checkmark:

Speaking for myself, and many others (I'm sure) I appreciative your posts and the effort you've spent to organize the info in one spot. Pulling it together and maintaining it can't be easy!

If I have trouble reading it, that's my problem. I can either adjust the damn screen magnification or go look up the info myself
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:55 pm

Mario-your posts are much appreciated.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:02 pm

CFRPwingALbody wrote:
In my previous post I showed the rendering of the compleated A220 & A320 Mobile FAL facilities. I was refering to the three flight line hangars that will be available.
On May 9 Airbus Mobile Final Assembly Line GM Daryl Taylor Facebook showed this image from the last structural steel being mounted for the flight line hangar. l think it's one of these hangars that will temporaraly be used to assemble some A220-300s. Now nearly two months later, the hangar construction should have progressed a lot.
I think assembling A220s in the A320 FAL building will cause problems for the A320 production flow.


Fun fact: Airbus' General Manager of their Mobile, Alabama FAL Darryl Taylor was GM of Bombardier's Q400 program for three years ending 2013. (He left to run a unit of GKN Aerospace prior to joining Airbus in 2015.) Wonder if he ever imagined he'd build another "Bombardier" airplane when he left?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:30 am

Has anyone seen the EgyptAir A220 or have any pics. Curious on your thoughts. Saw a pic on Instagram and thought it maybe the best looking bird yet. Only seen one image though.
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:09 am

AvroLanc wrote:
Has anyone seen the EgyptAir A220 or have any pics. Curious on your thoughts. Saw a pic on Instagram and thought it maybe the best looking bird yet. Only seen one image though.



Yes and i love love love it. Although i am fearing that the orange window trim and that orange line on the front of the wing are the airplane equivalent of painters tape. But i love garish orange trim so hopefully it stays :)

Link with pic
https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/07/09/egy ... paintshop/
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:22 am

rrbsztk wrote:
Although i am fearing that the orange window trim and that orange line on the front of the wing are the airplane equivalent of painters tape. But i love garish orange trim so hopefully it stays :)/


It's almost certainly masking. The inlets are also blue, which is a huge no-no.
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:38 pm

zululima wrote:
rrbsztk wrote:
Although i am fearing that the orange window trim and that orange line on the front of the wing are the airplane equivalent of painters tape. But i love garish orange trim so hopefully it stays :)/


It's almost certainly masking. The inlets are also blue, which is a huge no-no.

Are you referring to the same light blue inlet as on the A320N shown here? Isn't this standard?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146519169 ... 139788557/
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:05 pm

zululima wrote:
rrbsztk wrote:
Although i am fearing that the orange window trim and that orange line on the front of the wing are the airplane equivalent of painters tape. But i love garish orange trim so hopefully it stays :)/


It's almost certainly masking. The inlets are also blue, which is a huge no-no.


Why is having the inlets "blue" a huge no no? Not referring to the standard light blue on the inside.
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:11 pm

The light blue INSIDE the inlet is the "rub strip" for the fan. This abradeable material has been used by PW since at least the PW4000 days, mayber earlier. It is made to wear away if the fan moves a little bit....it allows the fan to move slightly without wearing into the metal.

The color of the wear strip is standard for all GTF engines. Edit: its kind of a blue/green color.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:29 pm

So sounds like maybe the blue by the engine is final. I'm assuming though i will be disappointed and the orange trim on the wing and cockpit windows will be removed still?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:02 pm

SteelChair wrote:
The light blue INSIDE the inlet is the "rub strip" for the fan. This abradeable material has been used by PW since at least the PW4000 days, mayber earlier. It is made to wear away if the fan moves a little bit....it allows the fan to move slightly without wearing into the metal.

The color of the wear strip is standard for all GTF engines. Edit: its kind of a blue/green color.


Thanks this is kind of useful info that keeps me coming back to this site.
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:55 pm

N119DU for delta is delivered, left Mirabel not too long ago. 2nd delivered this month (Air Swiss got one).

N120DU also had it's 2nd flight today and pictures of Egyptair's first A220 probably indicates that one will be flying soon.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:50 am

rrbsztk wrote:
AvroLanc wrote:
Has anyone seen the EgyptAir A220 or have any pics. Curious on your thoughts. Saw a pic on Instagram and thought it maybe the best looking bird yet. Only seen one image though.



Yes and i love love love it. Although i am fearing that the orange window trim and that orange line on the front of the wing are the airplane equivalent of painters tape. But i love garish orange trim so hopefully it stays :)

Link with pic
https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/07/09/egy ... paintshop/


The orange strip on the wings is just a protective tape that is used to protect the metal leading edge of the wings. It is also on every A320 wing through the production phase till first flight when it is removed.

The cockpit windows also appear to have a protective film with a yellow edge on them.

The green/blue on the engines is the rubbing strip as mentioned by others.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:27 pm

danipawa wrote:

Already noted, and with the same pic, in reply #412 above!
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