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Re: Republic Cancels A220 Order from 2010

Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:04 pm

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Cancellation now is probably a mix of Airbus wanting to clear the dead orders out of the book and Republic potentially having an upcoming financial obligation in regards to the order (that BBD might have let slide, but Airbus won’t to get order off of books).

It's interesting how orders are good early in the program to give it a sense of momentum, but later in the program they are bad in the sense that a big backlog chases away new orders.
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Re: Republic Cancels A220 Order from 2010

Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:45 pm

raylee67 wrote:
Should these orders be cleaned out from the book too?
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And what about the Russian leasing companies? Are those orders still solid?
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PrivatAir is already out of the backlog. I would bet you the others don't sit in the current production plan regardless of what their respective contracts say about delivery dates.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:36 pm

STLC as leasing company had ordered 6 A220-300 for Red Wings, but Red Wings had cancelled the contract this year. The two first have been already in production and have been completed (without outfitting) as white birds. Both have now gone to outfitting. According news, these have been sold to a customer, which prefers to stay unknown. (so to an UFO). 55056 will be delivered in few weeks, latest than we shall know it (just waiting of the first picture of the painted tail fin).
https://www.wingsoverquebec.com/?p=8776

55056 and 55057
The Russian leasing company STLC had leased six A220-300s to fellow Redwing. Then on March 21, we learned that Redwing had terminated its lease contract with STLC. Delivery of the first two aircraft with serial number 55056 and 55057 was scheduled for May. Airbus has stored the two aircraft outside until the first of August. Last Thursday, Airbus performed engine run up on the serial number 55056. Then the aircraft made its first flight on August 4. Airbus has confirmed us that this aircraft is sold to a customer and that it will be delivered in the coming weeks. (coming weeks means in 2 to 10 weeks). However, the client wants to remain discreet for the moment. On August 5, Airbus also pulled in serial number 55057 to complete its interior.



What I am now asking myself; STLC is the Russia state lessor, do they have leased the two birds or really sold them? And what is with the other 4 birds, ordered by STLC for Red Wings. The first parts shall be already in production.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:51 pm

T4thH wrote:
STLC as leasing company had ordered 6 A220-300 for Red Wings, but Red Wings had cancelled the contract this year. The two first have been already in production and have been completed (without outfitting) as white birds. Both have now gone to outfitting. According news, these have been sold to a customer, which prefers to stay unknown. (so to an UFO). 55056 will be delivered in few weeks, latest than we shall know it (just waiting of the first picture of the painted tail fin).
https://www.wingsoverquebec.com/?p=8776

55056 and 55057
The Russian leasing company STLC had leased six A220-300s to fellow Redwing. Then on March 21, we learned that Redwing had terminated its lease contract with STLC. Delivery of the first two aircraft with serial number 55056 and 55057 was scheduled for May. Airbus has stored the two aircraft outside until the first of August. Last Thursday, Airbus performed engine run up on the serial number 55056. Then the aircraft made its first flight on August 4. Airbus has confirmed us that this aircraft is sold to a customer and that it will be delivered in the coming weeks. (coming weeks means in 2 to 10 weeks). However, the client wants to remain discreet for the moment. On August 5, Airbus also pulled in serial number 55057 to complete its interior.



What I am now asking myself; STLC is the Russia state lessor, do they have leased the two birds or really sold them? And what is with the other 4 birds, ordered by STLC for Red Wings. The first parts shall be already in production.


I'm wondering if they might be the 2 for Air Tanzania. Has that order been finalized?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:03 pm

rrbsztk wrote:
T4thH wrote:
STLC as leasing company had ordered 6 A220-300 for Red Wings, but Red Wings had cancelled the contract this year. The two first have been already in production and have been completed (without outfitting) as white birds. Both have now gone to outfitting. According news, these have been sold to a customer, which prefers to stay unknown. (so to an UFO). 55056 will be delivered in few weeks, latest than we shall know it (just waiting of the first picture of the painted tail fin).
https://www.wingsoverquebec.com/?p=8776

55056 and 55057
The Russian leasing company STLC had leased six A220-300s to fellow Redwing. Then on March 21, we learned that Redwing had terminated its lease contract with STLC. Delivery of the first two aircraft with serial number 55056 and 55057 was scheduled for May. Airbus has stored the two aircraft outside until the first of August. Last Thursday, Airbus performed engine run up on the serial number 55056. Then the aircraft made its first flight on August 4. Airbus has confirmed us that this aircraft is sold to a customer and that it will be delivered in the coming weeks. (coming weeks means in 2 to 10 weeks). However, the client wants to remain discreet for the moment. On August 5, Airbus also pulled in serial number 55057 to complete its interior.



What I am now asking myself; STLC is the Russia state lessor, do they have leased the two birds or really sold them? And what is with the other 4 birds, ordered by STLC for Red Wings. The first parts shall be already in production.


I'm wondering if they might be the 2 for Air Tanzania. Has that order been finalized?


That Tanzania will buy two additional birds, has been recently announced. There is nothing firmed, I think, they have recently just started the discussion and contracting with all partners.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:25 pm

T4thH wrote:
STLC as leasing company had ordered 6 A220-300 for Red Wings, but Red Wings had cancelled the contract this year. The two first have been already in production and have been completed (without outfitting) as white birds. Both have now gone to outfitting. According news, these have been sold to a customer, which prefers to stay unknown. (so to an UFO). 55056 will be delivered in few weeks, latest than we shall know it (just waiting of the first picture of the painted tail fin).
https://www.wingsoverquebec.com/?p=8776

55056 and 55057
The Russian leasing company STLC had leased six A220-300s to fellow Redwing. Then on March 21, we learned that Redwing had terminated its lease contract with STLC. Delivery of the first two aircraft with serial number 55056 and 55057 was scheduled for May. Airbus has stored the two aircraft outside until the first of August. Last Thursday, Airbus performed engine run up on the serial number 55056. Then the aircraft made its first flight on August 4. Airbus has confirmed us that this aircraft is sold to a customer and that it will be delivered in the coming weeks. (coming weeks means in 2 to 10 weeks). However, the client wants to remain discreet for the moment. On August 5, Airbus also pulled in serial number 55057 to complete its interior.



What I am now asking myself; STLC is the Russia state lessor, do they have leased the two birds or really sold them? And what is with the other 4 birds, ordered by STLC for Red Wings. The first parts shall be already in production.

Fliegerfaust is reporting the first 55056 has acceptance flight today and will be turned over to STLC/GTLK today:
https://www.fliegerfaust.com/russia-new ... 94065.html
and supported by AIBFamily
https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55056
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:46 pm

So still a "Withe Bird". But who cares, GLTK /STLC will take it, it is delivered and end of the story. So Airbus/Bombardier are paid. Not that it will end up as 55017.
https://www.abcdlist.nl/photo/cs/55017.html
https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:47 pm

T4thH wrote:
So still a "Withe Bird". But who cares, GLTK /STLC will take it, it is delivered and end of the story. So Airbus/Bombardier are paid. Not that it will end up as 55017.
https://www.abcdlist.nl/photo/cs/55017.html
https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html


...and why did not Korean take 55017? Was there discussion that it was to be allocated for one of the VIP?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:22 am

yyztpa2 wrote:
T4thH wrote:
So still a "Withe Bird". But who cares, GLTK /STLC will take it, it is delivered and end of the story. So Airbus/Bombardier are paid. Not that it will end up as 55017.
https://www.abcdlist.nl/photo/cs/55017.html
https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html


...and why did not Korean take 55017? Was there discussion that it was to be allocated for one of the VIP?

KAL has traded this slot and took a later one . It was said, it shall be completed as business jet, but it was never done. It is still parked there outside since 2 years.
As recently seen for 50018 (and now for 50019), which have also been stored for two years; as the product is still upgraded and production optimized, it will be more and more difficult (and expensive) to complete and modify these first production frames to an up to date production status. The 55017 frame is starting to get old.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:39 am

First flight of first A220-300 for MS with registration C-FPBE, to be SU-GEX.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ht-460447/
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:16 pm

Good news we will see more opperators.

Note: MS=Egypt Air.

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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:47 pm

From what I can tell they delivered 2 this month (DL & STLC). Looks like 2 more (MS & DL) are post first flight and will hopefully be delivered before month end. The benchmark is 4/mo. this year so looks like they are back to "normal" after the vacation shutdown.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:42 pm

SQ22 wrote:
First flight of first A220-300 for MS with registration C-FPBE, to be SU-GEX.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ht-460447/

Thanks, as anticipated that confirms the blue nacelle leading edge in the previous photo was just a protective coating, as was the orange on the leading edge and the yellow around the flight deck windows.

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AvroLanc wrote:
Has anyone seen the EgyptAir A220 or have any pics. Curious on your thoughts. Saw a pic on Instagram and thought it maybe the best looking bird yet. Only seen one image though.



Yes and i love love love it. Although i am fearing that the orange window trim and that orange line on the front of the wing are the airplane equivalent of painters tape. But i love garish orange trim so hopefully it stays :)

Link with pic
https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/07/09/egy ... paintshop/


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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:43 pm

 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:12 am

Next for Delta delivered yesterday

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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:51 pm

They seem likely to break 40 this year. I wonder by how much.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:46 am

VirginFlyer wrote:
SQ22 wrote:
First flight of first A220-300 for MS with registration C-FPBE, to be SU-GEX.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ht-460447/

Thanks, as anticipated that confirms the blue nacelle leading edge in the previous photo was just a protective coating, as was the orange on the leading edge and the yellow around the flight deck windows.

rrbsztk wrote:
AvroLanc wrote:
Has anyone seen the EgyptAir A220 or have any pics. Curious on your thoughts. Saw a pic on Instagram and thought it maybe the best looking bird yet. Only seen one image though.



Yes and i love love love it. Although i am fearing that the orange window trim and that orange line on the front of the wing are the airplane equivalent of painters tape. But i love garish orange trim so hopefully it stays :)

Link with pic
https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/07/09/egy ... paintshop/


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I'll try to nab some photos when I do an LXR - CAI hop on it, last weekend of the month. Just depends on whether the sun is up enough at the, "Oh my God o'clock", departure time and whether the security staff enforce the no photos on the apron rule; LXR doubles as an air force base.
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:56 pm

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They seem likely to break 40 this year. I wonder by how much.

Lets all hope, its like watching water boil this thing:) can’t wait for Airbus level production numbers, the orders will follow increased delivery pace
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:23 pm

gokmengs wrote:
TObound wrote:
They seem likely to break 40 this year. I wonder by how much.

Lets all hope, its like watching water boil this thing:) can’t wait for Airbus level production numbers, the orders will follow increased delivery pace


It would just be nice to see 43 delivered this year so they finally hit three digits of total delivered frames.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:10 pm

Just checked the Airbus site. Aug. deliveries ended up being 3 (2 x DL, 1 x Russia).
So far in Sep. there's been 1 delivery (Egypt) and 2 first flights (DL & Russia).
Hopefully at least 3 and possibly more will be delivered in Sep?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:35 pm

Skywatcher wrote:
Just checked the Airbus site. Aug. deliveries ended up being 3 (2 x DL, 1 x Russia).
So far in Sep. there's been 1 delivery (Egypt) and 2 first flights (DL & Russia).
Hopefully at least 3 and possibly more will be delivered in Sep?

Egyptair initially said a few flights starting sept 6th(ish) and 20th something. (Dates off the top of my head sorry). When i looked at what they were planning it seemed they need a second A220 when they add flights at the end of month.

Worth noting they did push back a few days the first flights so i could see the end of September becoming early October. But hopeful they'll get second A220 this month.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:40 pm

TObound wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
TObound wrote:
They seem likely to break 40 this year. I wonder by how much.

Lets all hope, its like watching water boil this thing:) can’t wait for Airbus level production numbers, the orders will follow increased delivery pace


It would just be nice to see 43 delivered this year so they finally hit three digits of total delivered frames.


Isn't the target 45?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:43 pm

VV wrote:
TObound wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
Lets all hope, its like watching water boil this thing:) can’t wait for Airbus level production numbers, the orders will follow increased delivery pace


It would just be nice to see 43 delivered this year so they finally hit three digits of total delivered frames.


Isn't the target 45?

Yes, the half official target at begin of the year was stated as 45 (I had also heard of 44 else, but 45 seem to have been the Airbus target for this year).
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:39 pm

VV wrote:
TObound wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
Lets all hope, its like watching water boil this thing:) can’t wait for Airbus level production numbers, the orders will follow increased delivery pace


It would just be nice to see 43 delivered this year so they finally hit three digits of total delivered frames.


Isn't the target 45?


Yes. The 43rd delivery this year would be the 100th overall.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:09 am

Wonder how long it (would have rather) took C series to reach that milestone compared with other programs, pretty sure won’t be a good comparison for the C series:(
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:47 am

gokmengs wrote:
Wonder how long it (would have rather) took C series to reach that milestone compared with other programs, pretty sure won’t be a good comparison for the C series:(


It seems E2 deliveries have been even slower so far.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:43 am

First a220-300 in final assembly at Mobile now
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:34 pm

Airbus is launching an A220-300LR or XLR according to Jon Ostrower. I've just seen his tweets, but I don't have access to his website the Air Current. He's talking about not only a thrust bump, but increased fuel capacity. Maybe ACT.

"Neeleman’s Moxy will be launch operator for A220XLR. Yes, you read that right."

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/ ... 00096?s=20

Official word from Airbus on the new (previously undisclosed) A220-300 LR: “We are always working with our customers listening to their fleet needs. We don’t comment on the our confidential discussions”

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/ ... 67104?s=20

This is strictly a production / delivery thread. Either way, I think it is relevant to the topic to mention this news.

Continued discussion on A220LR / XLR:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1431221
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:34 am

Will the A220 reach 45 deliveries for 2019 ?

:frown:

Double that rate would translate in a reasoable, commercially viable backlog (4-5 yrs).

(I know they are working their butts off to grow into that..)
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:37 am

keesje wrote:
Will the A220 reach 45 deliveries for 2019 ?

:frown:

Double that rate would translate in a reasoable, commercially viable backlog (4-5 yrs).

(I know they are working their butts off to grow into that..)


With 26 delivered YTD, I would say 45 is impossible.

35 would be a nice achievement at this point imho.

Another underwhelming year of deliveries by Bombardier/Airbus.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:15 pm

[twoid][/twoid]Actually, I count 20 A220-200's, and 10 A220-300's delivered so far this year. Currently, there are 3 A220-300's and 1 A220-200 in various stages of flight testing that will presumably be delivered this month. That makes 34. If they continue to produce 4 per month in October-December, they should easily meet the target of 45. And for some reason they seem to produce the most A220's in the last few months of each year.

SteelChair wrote:
keesje wrote:
Will the A220 reach 45 deliveries for 2019 ?

:frown:

Double that rate would translate in a reasoable, commercially viable backlog (4-5 yrs).

(I know they are working their butts off to grow into that..)


With 26 delivered YTD, I would say 45 is impossible.

35 would be a nice achievement at this point imho.

Another underwhelming year of deliveries by Bombardier/Airbus.
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