maximairways wrote:

What's interesting to me about the newly opened The Club at BUF, they built it rather large and with showers. Having a good lounge is key to transatlantic service. So this may be preempting a potential service.

BDL for example opened the Escape Lounge around the time Aer Lingus began service. Though its not very big, and doesn't have showers.

Unfortunately, I do not see transatlantic service coming here anytime soon. Thomas Cook, WOW, and a couple other discount airlines seem to be struggling big time and falling into bankruptcy. Norwegian might be next. Those airlines seemed to be the type of airline that BUF would be targeting.

We know legacy carriers like Delta, Americans, United would drop dead before they would have any kind of Transatlantic service out of BNIA.


Maybe Jetblue but that seems like a stretch.


I definitely agree with you though, the way the club was designed, it was built for that type of service.

Buffalomatt1027 wrote:

maximairways wrote:

What's interesting to me about the newly opened The Club at BUF, they built it rather large and with showers. Having a good lounge is key to transatlantic service. So this may be preempting a potential service.

BDL for example opened the Escape Lounge around the time Aer Lingus began service. Though its not very big, and doesn't have showers.

Unfortunately, I do not see transatlantic service coming here anytime soon. Thomas Cook, WOW, and a couple other discount airlines seem to be struggling big time and falling into bankruptcy. Norwegian might be next. Those airlines seemed to be the type of airline that BUF would be targeting.

We know legacy carriers like Delta, Americans, United would drop dead before they would have any kind of Transatlantic service out of BNIA.


Maybe Jetblue but that seems like a stretch.


I definitely agree with you though, the way the club was designed, it was built for that type of service.

Is an Aer Lingus A321LR, or Icelandair 737MAX8 really that far of a stretch?

jworks158 wrote:

Buffalomatt1027 wrote:

maximairways wrote:

What's interesting to me about the newly opened The Club at BUF, they built it rather large and with showers. Having a good lounge is key to transatlantic service. So this may be preempting a potential service.

BDL for example opened the Escape Lounge around the time Aer Lingus began service. Though its not very big, and doesn't have showers.

Unfortunately, I do not see transatlantic service coming here anytime soon. Thomas Cook, WOW, and a couple other discount airlines seem to be struggling big time and falling into bankruptcy. Norwegian might be next. Those airlines seemed to be the type of airline that BUF would be targeting.

We know legacy carriers like Delta, Americans, United would drop dead before they would have any kind of Transatlantic service out of BNIA.


Maybe Jetblue but that seems like a stretch.


I definitely agree with you though, the way the club was designed, it was built for that type of service.

Is an Aer Lingus A321LR, or Icelandair 737MAX8 really that far of a stretch?

Aer Lingus only flights to major US airports besides hartford. Maybe an outside chance?

Icelandair - I know they had major cutbacks to the US due to the MAX. I wonder what will happened when the MAX comes back But again, they only show Major airports they fly out of.

I think those planes can make a direct flight though.

And this might be one of the dumbest things I will say- I think BUF / NFTA should go after an Asian and Indian air carrier. Go to Niagara falls and see the visitors that come.

Amazon might be opening a distribution center in Upstate NY (near Syracuse or Albany, hasn’t been decided yet). Anyone think this could open up the possibility of new nonstop routes to the region?

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

Amazon might be opening a distribution center in Upstate NY (near Syracuse or Albany, hasn’t been decided yet). Anyone think this could open up the possibility of new nonstop routes to the region?

We might start seeing Prime Air in addition to FedEx and UPS.

Anyone know why AA was flying a 737-800 from ROC to MSY today? Plane had ferry flight number from ORD.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KORD/KROC

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KROC/KMSY

aeroc wrote:

Anyone know why AA was flying a 737-800 from ROC to MSY today? Plane had ferry flight number from ORD.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KORD/KROC

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KROC/KMSY

A veteran's flight to the WWII museum in MSY:

https://www.garysinisefoundation.org/ev ... he-public/

CallmeJB wrote:

aeroc wrote:

Anyone know why AA was flying a 737-800 from ROC to MSY today? Plane had ferry flight number from ORD.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KORD/KROC

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KROC/KMSY

A veteran's flight to the WWII museum in MSY:

https://www.garysinisefoundation.org/ev ... he-public/

This is wonderful to hear! I love seeing this. Thank you for the information.

According to a new study Syracuse Airport had the second largest decrease in average airfare costs in the country. Average airfare fell 11.1% compared to a year ago. The only other airport with a larger decrease was Long Island MacAthur where average airfare fell 18.2% over the past year. The airport with the largest increase in average airfare over the past year was Chicago-Midway at 6.6%.

Great news for SYR!!

Speaking of SYR I noticed a Metro on the ground at SYR that seems to be operating long flights involving flying back and forth cross northern NY and I can't figure out who really owns it?

teneriffe77 wrote:

Speaking of SYR I noticed a Metro on the ground at SYR that seems to be operating long flights involving flying back and forth cross northern NY and I can't figure out who really owns it?

It’s probably Wiggins Airways doing cargo runs between SYR and PBG. They usually use an EMB110 but maybe they had to borrow a Metroliner from their parent company Ameriflight.

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

Amazon might be opening a distribution center in Upstate NY (near Syracuse or Albany, hasn’t been decided yet). Anyone think this could open up the possibility of new nonstop routes to the region?

The Buffalo area has an Amazon distribution center and we did not get any additional nonstops or anything even close. Prime does not fly here either.

Buffalomatt1027 wrote:

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

Amazon might be opening a distribution center in Upstate NY (near Syracuse or Albany, hasn’t been decided yet). Anyone think this could open up the possibility of new nonstop routes to the region?

The Buffalo area has an Amazon distribution center and we did not get any additional nonstops or anything even close. Prime does not fly here either.

The one proposed for Syracuse is massive.
https://www.syracuse.com/business/2019/ ... mazon.html

Buffalomatt1027 wrote:

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

Amazon might be opening a distribution center in Upstate NY (near Syracuse or Albany, hasn’t been decided yet). Anyone think this could open up the possibility of new nonstop routes to the region?

The Buffalo area has an Amazon distribution center and we did not get any additional nonstops or anything even close. Prime does not fly here either.

Except the one proposed for Syracuse would be the second largest warehouse in the world.

If you look at flight aware the path that plane has been flying is a lot of back and forth over a long period of time so there's no way that plane is doing normal cargo flights

teneriffe77 wrote:

If you look at flight aware the path that plane has been flying is a lot of back and forth over a long period of time so there's no way that plane is doing normal cargo flights

Oh, it’s doing new ‘satellite’ imagery for the area then. A lot of Google Maps, Bing Maps, Apple Maps and other private or government mapping programs actually use imagery from planes not satellites.

Dalmd88 wrote:

Buffalomatt1027 wrote:

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

Amazon might be opening a distribution center in Upstate NY (near Syracuse or Albany, hasn’t been decided yet). Anyone think this could open up the possibility of new nonstop routes to the region?

The Buffalo area has an Amazon distribution center and we did not get any additional nonstops or anything even close. Prime does not fly here either.

The one proposed for Syracuse is massive.
https://www.syracuse.com/business/2019/ ... mazon.html

Okay, did not know that. That is really cool.

With this weeks OAG thread, it looks like AA metal is finally returning to ROC. Starting in January 2X A319 on CLT and 1X CR9. Despite the cut to 3X daily from 4X daily, that’s actually still a capacity increase of about 30 seats, and more importantly, it just makes so much more sense.