stlgph wrote:Ah, the poor beautiful roof.
Make a wild guess that probably related to a heating/air handling unit.
Needless to say when the terminal was hit with a tornado it caused millions of dollars of "improvements"
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stlgph wrote:Ah, the poor beautiful roof.
TWA302 wrote:The old B hasn't had this much metal since the good old days of TWE.
maps4ltd wrote:TWA302 wrote:The old B hasn't had this much metal since the good old days of TWE.
That's a lot of Delta metal over at A.
jplatts wrote:While SAV is already served nonstop from many of the major Midwestern markets such as ORD, CVG, CLE, LCK, DTW, IND, and MSP, there is currently no nonstop service to SAV from either STL or BLV. G4 could add BLV-SAV nonstop service since (a) the STL/BLV market is currently the largest market in the Midwest that doesn't have any nonstop service to SAV, (b) G4 already serves SAV nonstop from CVG, CLE, LCK, and IND in the Midwest, and (c) G4 has recently announced plans to serve SAV nonstop from GRR in the Midwest.
Will G4 announce BLV-SAV nonstop service this year?
TWA302 wrote:jplatts wrote:While SAV is already served nonstop from many of the major Midwestern markets such as ORD, CVG, CLE, LCK, DTW, IND, and MSP, there is currently no nonstop service to SAV from either STL or BLV. G4 could add BLV-SAV nonstop service since (a) the STL/BLV market is currently the largest market in the Midwest that doesn't have any nonstop service to SAV, (b) G4 already serves SAV nonstop from CVG, CLE, LCK, and IND in the Midwest, and (c) G4 has recently announced plans to serve SAV nonstop from GRR in the Midwest.
Will G4 announce BLV-SAV nonstop service this year?
I could see it as a seasonal route from say April - September. Would be a nice add for sure.
stlgph wrote:Yesterday, Allegiant announced Cleveland/Cincinnati to Norfolk. For the market niches here, I can't help but think Norfolk, Savannah and Charleston would be lovely adds on Allegiant from St. Louis, but I can't help but ask the question if such markets wouldn't be better served from Lambert, rather than BLV.
jplatts wrote:stlgph wrote:Yesterday, Allegiant announced Cleveland/Cincinnati to Norfolk. For the market niches here, I can't help but think Norfolk, Savannah and Charleston would be lovely adds on Allegiant from St. Louis, but I can't help but ask the question if such markets wouldn't be better served from Lambert, rather than BLV.
WN already has seasonal, Sunday-only nonstop service to CHS out of STL. In addition, ORF is already served by WN, even though there is currently no nonstop service to ORF from either STL or BLV. On the other hand, SAV isn't currently served by WN.
While I agree that SAV might be better served from STL rather than BLV, G4 is more likely to add BLV-SAV nonstop service than another airline adding STL-SAV nonstop service. However, SY adding STL-SAV is a possibility since SY already serves SAV nonstop from MSP on a seasonal, less-than-daily basis.
Jshank83 wrote:Looks like BHM is wanting STL service back. Hopefully WN brings it back. Or maybe Contour but I would prefer WN.
https://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/ ... yptr=yahoo
stlgph wrote:So what is missing from the "old school" Southwest days? Is it just Louisville and Indianapolis?
N383SW wrote:stlgph wrote:So what is missing from the "old school" Southwest days? Is it just Louisville and Indianapolis?
Louisville, Indy, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Birmingham from what I can remember.
Jshank83 wrote:N383SW wrote:stlgph wrote:So what is missing from the "old school" Southwest days? Is it just Louisville and Indianapolis?
Louisville, Indy, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Birmingham from what I can remember.
I didn't realize they flew to SLC before. The rest I knew about. ABQ is the one I really want to see back, but I won't hold my breathe.
Jshank83 wrote:N383SW wrote:stlgph wrote:So what is missing from the "old school" Southwest days? Is it just Louisville and Indianapolis?
Louisville, Indy, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Birmingham from what I can remember.
I didn't realize they flew to SLC before. The rest I knew about. ABQ is the one I really want to see back, but I won't hold my breathe.
maps4ltd wrote:Jshank83 wrote:N383SW wrote:
Louisville, Indy, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Birmingham from what I can remember.
I didn't realize they flew to SLC before. The rest I knew about. ABQ is the one I really want to see back, but I won't hold my breathe.
Yeah, my parents used to use the companion pass to go STL-SLC on weekends in the late 90's and early 2000's. Nowadays, they mostly fly either Delta nonstops or Southwest connecting itineraries (usually the latter).
pmanni1 wrote:Good to see that starting June 6th UA is upgrading their 2xdaily to SFO from E175's to A320's. Advance ticket sales must be good.
kipfilet wrote:Where do you see that? JUst curious
Jshank83 wrote:kipfilet wrote:Where do you see that? JUst curious
Are you talking about the UA flights? You can just look at the schedule. Google flights is the easiesr, imo.
stl07 wrote:There still aren't any connections available via MSP on sun country except, ironically, PDX which you can only see if you click into the route a day the nonstop flies, leading me to believe they are intentionally blocking connections
stl07 wrote:There still aren't any connections available via MSP on sun country except, ironically, PDX which you can only see if you click into the route a day the nonstop flies, leading me to believe they are intentionally blocking connections
Jshank83 wrote:stl07 wrote:There still aren't any connections available via MSP on sun country except, ironically, PDX which you can only see if you click into the route a day the nonstop flies, leading me to believe they are intentionally blocking connections
I also keep looking to see when some will show up. Doesn’t make any sense not to have them. I don’t think they can get enough O&D on that route to support it alone.
rainaviation wrote:Jshank83 wrote:stl07 wrote:There still aren't any connections available via MSP on sun country except, ironically, PDX which you can only see if you click into the route a day the nonstop flies, leading me to believe they are intentionally blocking connections
I also keep looking to see when some will show up. Doesn’t make any sense not to have them. I don’t think they can get enough O&D on that route to support it alone.
Not sure I would say that, I found some flights for $148 RT. For families taking summer vacations or going to see family, O&D traffic could support that (much better than the $307 on DL, even after bags and seats it would be $75 cheaper). SY is well known in MSP and they seem to be doing well in STL as they have already increased frequencies to RSW this spring.
Jshank83 wrote:rainaviation wrote:Jshank83 wrote:
I also keep looking to see when some will show up. Doesn’t make any sense not to have them. I don’t think they can get enough O&D on that route to support it alone.
Not sure I would say that, I found some flights for $148 RT. For families taking summer vacations or going to see family, O&D traffic could support that (much better than the $307 on DL, even after bags and seats it would be $75 cheaper). SY is well known in MSP and they seem to be doing well in STL as they have already increased frequencies to RSW this spring.
I just think WN and DL could lower prices enough (and even price match at that level) to make it tough for them to fill a 737 4x a week without connections. Right now there are on average 305 passengers of O&D each direction. So 2 737s. WN is running 3x. DL is running 3x 717, 1x 737, 2x RJ900 over summer. Just going to be a lot of capacity even with WN/DL having connections on one end or the other. DL is down in the $80s some days, WN around $100. With fees on Sun Country you are going to get to those prices quickly. I hope Sun Country does well but I just think it would be smart to add connection options.
stl07 wrote:Volaris wants to add more US cities, maybe they can add MEX from here to stop their plane from sitting on the ground for days
Jshank83 wrote:stl07 wrote:Volaris wants to add more US cities, maybe they can add MEX from here to stop their plane from sitting on the ground for days
They don't sit it on the ground for days here, it just flies an empty leg. After it made the runs last weekend it flew to MEX. Seeing how much trouble everyone is having with MEX service I doubt they would fly there from here. I am guessing GDL is more likely, but I am not sure I see them starting anything. Although filling the empty leg with a revenue flight would make sense.
STLflyer wrote:Jshank83 wrote:stl07 wrote:Volaris wants to add more US cities, maybe they can add MEX from here to stop their plane from sitting on the ground for days
They don't sit it on the ground for days here, it just flies an empty leg. After it made the runs last weekend it flew to MEX. Seeing how much trouble everyone is having with MEX service I doubt they would fly there from here. I am guessing GDL is more likely, but I am not sure I see them starting anything. Although filling the empty leg with a revenue flight would make sense.
Why would there be an empty leg every week? Fly pax from HUX to STL, pick up new pax, fly them back to HUX. Rinse and repeat the same a week or whatever later?
pmanni1 wrote:At what point does an airport become a fortress hub? WN has more weekly departures than all of the other airlines combined.
pmanni1 wrote:At what point does an airport become a fortress hub? WN has more weekly departures than all of the other airlines combined.
Jshank83 wrote:More #avgeek details to be released during a press conference tomorrow at 10:00 AM on the lower level of Terminal 1
The airport hardly has press conferences for anything so I would assume there is more info coming out than some stats.
1. I saw the tweet about the press conference tomorrow. Is there more info coming out on it? Or is it just going to be releasing stats? I figure there has to be more to it if they are having a press conference.
jplatts wrote:Jshank83 wrote:More #avgeek details to be released during a press conference tomorrow at 10:00 AM on the lower level of Terminal 1
The airport hardly has press conferences for anything so I would assume there is more info coming out than some stats.
1. I saw the tweet about the press conference tomorrow. Is there more info coming out on it? Or is it just going to be releasing stats? I figure there has to be more to it if they are having a press conference.
I think that tomorrow's announcement might be NK adding service out of STL since (a) STL is located in the largest U.S. metro area that isn't currently served by NK, (b) STL was served by FL prior to the WN-FL merger, and (c) NK has recently added service to other former FL destinations such as AVL, CMH, IND, JAX, RDU, and RIC.