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Delta Network Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:52 am

Please continue from last year's thread.

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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:19 am

SEA-KIX starts in March with a 763
SEA-NRT will be upgraded to a 359 in March as well.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:13 pm

DL will be moving to the newly built Terminal 3 South concourse in PHX by the end of this month. Along with a new DL club location opening in PHX, I am hoping for new DL routes out of PHX, specifically PHX-BOS in 2019.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:33 pm

Any chance we could see the A321s make their way to more DL stations? IINM 65 are currently in the fleet and there are 32 total deliveries expected for this year.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:00 am

Runway28L wrote:
Any chance we could see the A321s make their way to more DL stations? IINM 65 are currently in the fleet and there are 32 total deliveries expected for this year.


Believe that is inevitable believe the A321s will take over a lot of the MD-88 flights over the next year or so out of ATL as the MD-88 fleet draws down. I am thinking they will take over much of ATL-BNA. You will also continue to see them added on the Florida routes.

But really anything you currently see with MD-88 is a prime candidate for A321 or some of the shorter 757-200 routes as well.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:04 am

In an interview a few days ago, Joe Nardone from the Columbus Regional Airport Authority implied that TATL, which many presume to be DL CMH-AMS, might have already happened if the community would've ponied up the money: https://www.dispatch.com/business/20190 ... ight-gains

Midwestindy also posted:

I heard CMH is in the running with BDL and AUS for the next DL TATL


With Nardone's eagerness to grow the route map and a new Governor, maybe this is the year?
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:10 pm

BOI, GEG, and HRL are located in the largest markets in the contiguous U.S. with DL service that don't currently have any nonstop service to ATL.

DL could add DL Connection nonstop service to HRL from ATL since HRL is within the range of regional jets from ATL.

BOI and GEG are too far from ATL to be able to be served nonstop from ATL on regional jets, but DL could add ATL-BOI and ATL-GEG nonstop service using Airbus A220 aircraft. DL also already serves its LAX, MSP, SLC, and SEA hubs from both BOI and GEG, and DL would also be able to offer connections to destinations in Georgia, Florida, Latin America, and the Caribbean from BOI and GEG through ATL if DL adds ATL-BOI and ATL-GEG nonstop service.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:33 pm

gsg013 wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
Any chance we could see the A321s make their way to more DL stations? IINM 65 are currently in the fleet and there are 32 total deliveries expected for this year.


Believe that is inevitable believe the A321s will take over a lot of the MD-88 flights over the next year or so out of ATL as the MD-88 fleet draws down. I am thinking they will take over much of ATL-BNA. You will also continue to see them added on the Florida routes.

But really anything you currently see with MD-88 is a prime candidate for A321 or some of the shorter 757-200 routes as well.

Actually, what may occur is that you'll start to see the remaining MD-90 fleet become entirely moved to ATL, like they did with the MD-88 fleet. The MD-90s maybackfill as more MD-88s are drawn-down (and the MD-90 fleet is drawn-down in parallell. At some point they be confined to shorter routes as well.

Plus you'll have 738 and A320 backfill MD-88 routes that don't warrent incremental capacity.
But, they'll upgauge on anything that makes sense A320/738/MD-88/MD-90, and then A320 and 738 will backfill some MD-88/90 routes that don't need the incremental capacity of 739/321/757.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:34 pm

There are already seven Florida destinations served 1-stop from BOI and GEG via MSP on Delta.

Why do you think there's much BOI/GEG demand to the Caribbean or Latin America?
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:33 am

DL loaded ATL-HHH service today. Starting May 24th 3x daily E175
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:02 pm

DL is in the process of closing the LAX 717 base and moving them all back east, so expect more East Coast upguages to come, with the addition of more A220 frames.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:39 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
DL is in the process of closing the LAX 717 base and moving them all back east, so expect more East Coast upguages to come, with the addition of more A220 frames.


Makes sense to me (move a more competitive product into a super competitive market), but is there an official source for that info? Any indication of the timeline?
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:35 pm

What are the chances we see DL re-enter SBA with a flight to SLC, LAX, or ATL? The SBA market is ripe for a DL return and high-value FFs in the market will pay a premium to fly via SBA vs the drive to LAX.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:40 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
DL is in the process of closing the LAX 717 base and moving them all back east, so expect more East Coast upguages to come, with the addition of more A220 frames.

Will the LAX 717 base closure have any effect on the SEA or SLC 717 flying?
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:06 pm

AABB777 wrote:
What are the chances we see DL re-enter SBA with a flight to SLC, LAX, or ATL? The SBA market is ripe for a DL return and high-value FFs in the market will pay a premium to fly via SBA vs the drive to LAX.


I would love to see that and also SBP.
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:16 pm

N174UA wrote:
SEA-KIX starts in March with a 763
SEA-NRT will be upgraded to a 359 in March as well.


SEA-NRT seems like a big waste of an A350. An A333 can handle it just fine.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:32 pm

TTailedTiger wrote:
N174UA wrote:
SEA-KIX starts in March with a 763
SEA-NRT will be upgraded to a 359 in March as well.


SEA-NRT seems like a big waste of an A350. An A333 can handle it just fine.


With ANA and JAL both on the route with 787's, DL has no choice but to throw its best product on this route if it wants to retain market share.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:47 pm

TransWorldOne wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
N174UA wrote:
SEA-KIX starts in March with a 763
SEA-NRT will be upgraded to a 359 in March as well.


SEA-NRT seems like a big waste of an A350. An A333 can handle it just fine.


With ANA and JAL both on the route with 787's, DL has no choice but to throw its best product on this route if it wants to retain market share.


Wonder if this route could go 767-400ER when they get the new D1 suite on them.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:27 pm

717atOGG wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
DL is in the process of closing the LAX 717 base and moving them all back east, so expect more East Coast upguages to come, with the addition of more A220 frames.

Will the LAX 717 base closure have any effect on the SEA or SLC 717 flying?


Yes. The 717 routes from LAX, SEA and SLC will be shifted to A221/A223, 319/320, 737-7/8, perhaps some E175/CR9. 717s will be an east of the Rockies phenomena.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:33 pm

Cactusjuba wrote:
717atOGG wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
DL is in the process of closing the LAX 717 base and moving them all back east, so expect more East Coast upguages to come, with the addition of more A220 frames.

Will the LAX 717 base closure have any effect on the SEA or SLC 717 flying?


Yes. The 717 routes from LAX, SEA and SLC will be shifted to A221/A223, 319/320, 737-7/8, perhaps some E175/CR9. 717s will be an east of the Rockies phenomena.


Interesting. DEN used to have 717s from CVG before that route was upgraded. BIL still gets 717s from SLC and MSP but does have CS100/A221 tow bars. I’ll be curious to see what future changes there are.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:37 pm

gsg013 wrote:
TransWorldOne wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:

SEA-NRT seems like a big waste of an A350. An A333 can handle it just fine.


With ANA and JAL both on the route with 787's, DL has no choice but to throw its best product on this route if it wants to retain market share.


Wonder if this route could go 767-400ER when they get the new D1 suite on them.


More likely, it'll go A330-900 once DL starts receiving those later this year. I'm not sure a 764 even has the range to operate SEA-NRT successfully...
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:41 pm

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I'm not sure a 764 even has the range to operate SEA-NRT successfully...


I take this part back - looks like SEA-NRT is slightly shorter than routes DL has used the 764 on, including MSP-FCO and ATL-VCE. Nonetheless, I'd be very surprised to see any 764s plying TPAC routes in the future... I'll keep my bets on the 339 to eventually replace the 359 on SEA-TYO.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:56 pm

TransWorldOne wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
N174UA wrote:
SEA-KIX starts in March with a 763
SEA-NRT will be upgraded to a 359 in March as well.


SEA-NRT seems like a big waste of an A350. An A333 can handle it just fine.


With ANA and JAL both on the route with 787's, DL has no choice but to throw its best product on this route if it wants to retain market share.


I guess that makes sense to compete on product. But they'll never be able to match the serivce of ANA and JAL with their polished crew members. And no one beats a JAL 787 with their 2-4-2 seating.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:02 am

FSDan wrote:
FSDan wrote:
I'm not sure a 764 even has the range to operate SEA-NRT successfully...


I take this part back - looks like SEA-NRT is slightly shorter than routes DL has used the 764 on, including MSP-FCO and ATL-VCE. Nonetheless, I'd be very surprised to see any 764s plying TPAC routes in the future... I'll keep my bets on the 339 to eventually replace the 359 on SEA-TYO.


I believe the 767-400 has operated both SEA-NRT and PDX-NRT in the past. It's really not that short range of an airplane. It's just that compared to current models like the 777-300ER or 787-9, it feels like it lacks any range.
 
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:10 am

BoeingGuy wrote:
FSDan wrote:
FSDan wrote:
I'm not sure a 764 even has the range to operate SEA-NRT successfully...


I take this part back - looks like SEA-NRT is slightly shorter than routes DL has used the 764 on, including MSP-FCO and ATL-VCE. Nonetheless, I'd be very surprised to see any 764s plying TPAC routes in the future... I'll keep my bets on the 339 to eventually replace the 359 on SEA-TYO.


I believe the 767-400 has operated both SEA-NRT and PDX-NRT in the past. It's really not that short range of an airplane. It's just that compared to current models like the 777-300ER or 787-9, it feels like it lacks any range.


Yeah it's no obstacle for the 764. Delta even did a one off NRT-SEA on a 752 as an extra section. They actually sold seats on it, although not many.
 
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:15 am

Just a question...do you think we could see expansion for Detroit and Minneapolis? There have been a few regional routes cut lately, and a few international ones added.
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:16 am

BoeingGuy wrote:
FSDan wrote:
FSDan wrote:
I'm not sure a 764 even has the range to operate SEA-NRT successfully...


I take this part back - looks like SEA-NRT is slightly shorter than routes DL has used the 764 on, including MSP-FCO and ATL-VCE. Nonetheless, I'd be very surprised to see any 764s plying TPAC routes in the future... I'll keep my bets on the 339 to eventually replace the 359 on SEA-TYO.


I believe the 767-400 has operated both SEA-NRT and PDX-NRT in the past. It's really not that short range of an airplane. It's just that compared to current models like the 777-300ER or 787-9, it feels like it lacks any range.


I don't believe Delta insures their 764 for trans-Pacific flying.
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:02 am

Cactusjuba wrote:
717atOGG wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
DL is in the process of closing the LAX 717 base and moving them all back east, so expect more East Coast upguages to come, with the addition of more A220 frames.

Will the LAX 717 base closure have any effect on the SEA or SLC 717 flying?


Yes. The 717 routes from LAX, SEA and SLC will be shifted to A221/A223, 319/320, 737-7/8, perhaps some E175/CR9. 717s will be an east of the Rockies phenomena.


In addition to the A220 pilot base in SLC there are plans to open an A320 pilot base in LAX (A320 includes 319 and 321).
 
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:14 am

maps4ltd wrote:
Just a question...do you think we could see expansion for Detroit and Minneapolis? There have been a few regional routes cut lately, and a few international ones added.


Lots of upguaging can be expected, this summer a lot of routes from MSP are going all mainline. In addition some routes to DTW are seeing larger aircraft; for example, IND-DTW will get a mix of A321/B757 from March to August
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:13 am

Just noticed something weird about DL's SEA-KIX schedule. It's currently bookable until late October, around the end of the IATA summer season. All of their other SEA intercontinental routes are open for booking past then, so will this route be seasonal, or is DL just waiting to see how bookings look, or...? Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the new route, although it's understandable that they'd be a bit conservative with KIX given their history with the route.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:22 am

maps4ltd wrote:
Just a question...do you think we could see expansion for Detroit and Minneapolis? There have been a few regional routes cut lately, and a few international ones added.


MSP-PVG is almost guaranteed to be announced in 2019 if DL gets approval from the government.
 
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:23 pm

Looks like the MD88 phase out begins in earnest starting in January/February, seeing the B739/MD90 replacing a lot of MD88 frequencies
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:34 pm

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Looks like the MD88 phase out begins in earnest starting in January/February, seeing the B739/MD90 replacing a lot of MD88 frequencies


DL has been removing 1 MD-88 almost weekly for about the past 9 months or so. At BNA we are seeing a mix now of MD-88 and MD-90's on the BNA-ATL Route.. While I dont love the MD's i get it the most cost effective routes to run the MD's on are the shorter routes that need a bit more capacity. It's a lot better to have it on a 214 mile route than say an ATL-LGA route at ~ 760 Miles... I am surprised that the MD-88 and 717 stick on ATL-EWR and this isn't swapped to A320 family or 737 family.
 
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Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:07 pm

Whenever I access the delta.com website from the Dallas area, it brings up DAL by default instead of DFW, even though DL currently serves CVG, DTW, MSP, LAX, LGA, JFK, and SLC nonstop from DFW but not from DAL.

If there was enough gate space at DAL, both DL and WN could add DAL-CVG nonstop service, and DL could also add DAL-DTW, DAL-MSP, DAL-LAX, DAL-LGA, DAL-SLC, and DAL-SEA nonstop service.

Why is DL defaulting to DAL instead of DFW when the Delta.com website is being accessed from the Dallas area? It is confusing since I would very likely be flying out of DFW if I was flying on DL to a destination that DL serves nonstop from DFW but not from DAL.
 
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Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:25 pm

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Why is DL defaulting to DAL instead of DFW when the Delta.com website is being accessed from the Dallas area? It is confusing since I would very likely be flying out of DFW if I was flying on DL to a destination that DL serves nonstop from DFW but not from DAL.


It defaults to the nearest airport - Delta-served or not. Live on the north side of Detroit? It might default to PTK - a general use airport without ( AFAIK) scheduled commercial service.
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:30 pm

Can someone please update what routes the A220 is currently flying?

I know
LGA-BOS
LGA-DFW

Please add the other routes? I believe they are up to 8 in service right now soon will have more A220 than 737-700ER
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:08 pm

gsg013 wrote:
Can someone please update what routes the A220 is currently flying?

I know
LGA-BOS
LGA-DFW

Please add the other routes? I believe they are up to 8 in service right now soon will have more A220 than 737-700ER


As of today:
LGA-BOS
LGA-DFW
DTW-DFW

I think the priority has been upgauging the RJs to A220s on each of these routes before moving on to other routes (except obviously LGA-BOS). LGA-DFW has now entirely been upgauged to the A220 and DTW-DFW is nearly there as well, which eats up most currently available airframes.
 
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Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:00 am

https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-tran ... all-t.aspx

"Later this year, we begin refocusing our growth into our higher margin core hubs through more efficient larger gauge aircraft. We continue to increase our scale, while maintaining our revenue premium and improving our margins."

Lots of upguaging to ATL, DTW, and MSP starting in the fall.

"It is important to note that with the efficiency gains we've made through our fleet transformation, we expect to accelerate the retirement of our MD-90 fleet."

"By the end of the year, we will have 28 of these aircraft growing this fleet to 90 aircraft by 2023."

I'm interested to see what A220 routes are announced next.....
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:18 pm

Nashville is getting a 10,000 SF Sky Club according to this image.

https://ibb.co/J2PdqB3

This is pretty big for a mere spoke. Does anyone have the reasoning behind this?
 
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Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:31 pm

Fargo wrote:
Nashville is getting a 10,000 SF Sky Club according to this image.

https://ibb.co/J2PdqB3

This is pretty big for a mere spoke. Does anyone have the reasoning behind this?


BNA is a huge FF base for DL. It makes perfect sense.
 
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Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:33 pm

777Mech wrote:
Fargo wrote:
Nashville is getting a 10,000 SF Sky Club according to this image.

https://ibb.co/J2PdqB3

This is pretty big for a mere spoke. Does anyone have the reasoning behind this?


BNA is a huge FF base for DL. It makes perfect sense.


True, but it is still a spoke and not likely to become a focus city or anything. Just a bit surprising.
 
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:05 am

Fargo wrote:
777Mech wrote:
Fargo wrote:
Nashville is getting a 10,000 SF Sky Club according to this image.

https://ibb.co/J2PdqB3

This is pretty big for a mere spoke. Does anyone have the reasoning behind this?


BNA is a huge FF base for DL. It makes perfect sense.


True, but it is still a spoke and not likely to become a focus city or anything. Just a bit surprising.


I spoke to a few people working at the sky club said the new club is potentially going to be 2 floors and have up to 300 seats. currently they are at 78 seats. Very exciting cant get here soon enough. Also a full bar that you can actually sit at.
 
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:24 am

Midwestindy wrote:
https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2019/04/10/delta-air-lines-inc-de-dal-q1-2019-earnings-call-t.aspx

"Later this year, we begin refocusing our growth into our higher margin core hubs through more efficient larger gauge aircraft. We continue to increase our scale, while maintaining our revenue premium and improving our margins."

Lots of upguaging to ATL, DTW, and MSP starting in the fall.

"It is important to note that with the efficiency gains we've made through our fleet transformation, we expect to accelerate the retirement of our MD-90 fleet."

"By the end of the year, we will have 28 of these aircraft growing this fleet to 90 aircraft by 2023."

I'm interested to see what A220 routes are announced next.....

I would expect a lot of existing MD-88 and MD-90 flying will get upgraded to B738s and B739s. Maybe a few stations will also receive A321 flying for the first time.

+1 regarding the A220 routes.
 
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:09 am

gsg013 wrote:
Fargo wrote:
777Mech wrote:

BNA is a huge FF base for DL. It makes perfect sense.


True, but it is still a spoke and not likely to become a focus city or anything. Just a bit surprising.


I spoke to a few people working at the sky club said the new club is potentially going to be 2 floors and have up to 300 seats. currently they are at 78 seats. Very exciting cant get here soon enough. Also a full bar that you can actually sit at.

Good, the current BNA SkyClub is rediculously too small for the number of flights. DL not only has a nice share of the local-market, there is a lot FF/elite/business traffic from its core hubs.
The BNA SkyClub is overcrowded and basically unusable during peak times. Can't get a seat in there on Thursday afternoon/evenings.

They did a refresh of the club a few years ago and it didn't change much. Also the restrooms in the club are single-stall unisex bathrooms, which it far insufficient for the volume the clubs get and they get disgusting.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:14 am

Runway28L wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2019/04/10/delta-air-lines-inc-de-dal-q1-2019-earnings-call-t.aspx

"Later this year, we begin refocusing our growth into our higher margin core hubs through more efficient larger gauge aircraft. We continue to increase our scale, while maintaining our revenue premium and improving our margins."

Lots of upguaging to ATL, DTW, and MSP starting in the fall.

"It is important to note that with the efficiency gains we've made through our fleet transformation, we expect to accelerate the retirement of our MD-90 fleet."

"By the end of the year, we will have 28 of these aircraft growing this fleet to 90 aircraft by 2023."

I'm interested to see what A220 routes are announced next.....

I would expect a lot of existing MD-88 and MD-90 flying will get upgraded to B738s and B739s. Maybe a few stations will also receive A321 flying for the first time.

+1 regarding the A220 routes.

Its likely to be taken over by a variety of fleet types.

Last summer, MD-88 flying consolidated to ATL. In June 2019, the MD-90 fleet consolidates to ATL as well. Most of what was MD-90 at DTW & MSP will transition to A320 come summer.

As the MD-88 & 90 fleet draws down - some will upgauge to ~190 seats 739/A321, and others will stay with ~150 seats A320/738. Upgauging on other routes could free-up A320/738 to replace MD88/90 flying. A220s aren't in the short-term replacing MD-88 routes in most cases. They are replacing longer E75/CR9/717 flights to free those up for other purposes.

DTW is seeing an influx of additional 717 flying this summer and fall from whats been observed in current schedules.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:18 pm

Some new DL long-haul changes for W19:

-ATL-NRT switches to A369 effective 10/27/19
-LAX-AMS cancelled starting 9/1/19
-LAX-CDG increased from 3x/week to daily starting 10/27/19
-LAX-PVG/HND switched from A359 to 77L effective 10/27/19
-MSP-ICN switches from 772 to A359 starting 10/27/19
-One JFK-AMS flight (DL 46/49) switches from 764 to 763 starting 10/27/19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-14apr19/
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 15, 2019 11:04 pm

I recently listened to the Network VP lecture, and was able to chat with directly. I see a lot of things debated here, thought this might help:

767-300ER retirements from 2025-2030, but really want to retire them earlier than that so they don’t have to do a cabin refurb. Anxious for solution from BA/AB to come soon. 4% domestic growth, 2% international growth with 35 339 deliveries by 2023. First 9 for Asia, the rest for TATL. 330 fleet will enter cabin refurb 2021, after 764 fleet. SEA-HKG lost $20MIL a year, with a chance of re-entry at some unknown future point, but JFK makes better sense with finance industry link. BOS big focus of growth, more international to come. When SLC construction is complete, will have 55 total gates and possibility of a future ICN add. More upgauging from regionals to mainline in the western markets, expect more 220s out west. More East-West adds in general to strengthen market share in the West. Hope in future to be able to go beyond LGA perimeter rule to further West coast. Expect to hear back on HND soon. Expect future of GOL JV to highlight more ATL/South Florida-Brazil. On future ambitions in Texas, referenced only upgrading routes to other existing hubs from DFW & AUS, noting the existence of external hype about AUS.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 15, 2019 11:41 pm

Cactusjuba wrote:
I recently listened to the Network VP lecture, and was able to chat with directly. I see a lot of things debated here, thought this might help:

767-300ER retirements from 2025-2030, but really want to retire them earlier than that so they don’t have to do a cabin refurb. Anxious for solution from BA/AB to come soon. 4% domestic growth, 2% international growth with 35 339 deliveries by 2023. First 9 for Asia, the rest for TATL. 330 fleet will enter cabin refurb 2021, after 764 fleet. SEA-HKG lost $20MIL a year, with a chance of re-entry at some unknown future point, but JFK makes better sense with finance industry link. BOS big focus of growth, more international to come. When SLC construction is complete, will have 55 total gates and possibility of a future ICN add. More upgauging from regionals to mainline in the western markets, expect more 220s out west. More East-West adds in general to strengthen market share in the West. Hope in future to be able to go beyond LGA perimeter rule to further West coast. Expect to hear back on HND soon. Expect future of GOL JV to highlight more ATL/South Florida-Brazil. On future ambitions in Texas, referenced only upgrading routes to other existing hubs from DFW & AUS, noting the existence of external hype about AUS.


I guess RDU will be status quo. Was hoping for a little growth. Oh well, still in a good spot.
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 15, 2019 11:55 pm

ERJ170 wrote:
Cactusjuba wrote:
I recently listened to the Network VP lecture, and was able to chat with directly. I see a lot of things debated here, thought this might help:

767-300ER retirements from 2025-2030, but really want to retire them earlier than that so they don’t have to do a cabin refurb. Anxious for solution from BA/AB to come soon. 4% domestic growth, 2% international growth with 35 339 deliveries by 2023. First 9 for Asia, the rest for TATL. 330 fleet will enter cabin refurb 2021, after 764 fleet. SEA-HKG lost $20MIL a year, with a chance of re-entry at some unknown future point, but JFK makes better sense with finance industry link. BOS big focus of growth, more international to come. When SLC construction is complete, will have 55 total gates and possibility of a future ICN add. More upgauging from regionals to mainline in the western markets, expect more 220s out west. More East-West adds in general to strengthen market share in the West. Hope in future to be able to go beyond LGA perimeter rule to further West coast. Expect to hear back on HND soon. Expect future of GOL JV to highlight more ATL/South Florida-Brazil. On future ambitions in Texas, referenced only upgrading routes to other existing hubs from DFW & AUS, noting the existence of external hype about AUS.


I guess RDU will be status quo. Was hoping for a little growth. Oh well, still in a good spot.


I don’t think he would be able to comment on specific plans. I still expect some growth from RDU and AUS in the future.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

Thu May 16, 2019 12:23 am

Cactusjuba wrote:

I don’t think he would be able to comment on specific plans. I still expect some growth from RDU and AUS in the future.


Perhaps when the new T1 gates open up will provide the ability to add more flights.. but the service right now by DL and all the airlines is great right now. The US is well covered. Good international service. And all the routes are given time to mature. BOS May be getting over saturated, much like SEA... but it’s a fight for share so it’s a sit back and watch situation
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