Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

qf789 · Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:19 am

LOT 789 SP-LSD has been delivered PAE-WAW

https://twitter.com/FlightIntl/status/1 ... 47873?s=20

qf789 · Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:26 am

43/46 section for El Al's next 789 LN 829 arriving at PAE

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/10 ... 50432?s=20

qf789 · Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:37 am

WestJet 789 C-GURP on the flightline prior to an initial engine run

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/10 ... 99584?s=20

ual747-600 · Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:40 pm

Line #806 JAL 789 JA877A delivery flight

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JAL ... /KPAE/RJAA

Line #809 ANA 78X JA900A B1 flight

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE ... /KCHS/KCHS

UAL747-600

NG263 · Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:00 pm

LN 149, HZ-MF7 Saudi Ministry of Finance has been delivered. Route: AFW-SNN & then onto RUH or DMM (?). This particular bird has been in VIP conversion since February 2014 (!). The second 787, LN 193 HZ-MF8 seems to be still in the conversion process.

The aircraft can be seen on this shot while passing through SNN:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shanair/32093342897/

UAEflyer · Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:29 pm

NG263 wrote:
LN 149, HZ-MF7 Saudi Ministry of Finance has been delivered. Route: AFW-SNN & then onto RUH or DMM (?). This particular bird has been in VIP conversion since February 2014 (!). The second 787, LN 193 HZ-MF8 seems to be still in the conversion process.

The aircraft can be seen on this shot while passing through SNN:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shanair/32093342897/

Why it needed to stop in SNN, I thought it is capable to fly all the way to RUH nonstop ..

Benny9900 · Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:20 am

Is it only me or anybody else see ETIHAD B787 order disappeared from the spreadsheets ??? :shock:

Dan23 · Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:02 pm

Benny9900 wrote:
Is it only me or anybody else see ETIHAD B787 order disappeared from the spreadsheets ???

They are all still there. There is just a filter currently set on the '787 Current Production' tab to only show Everett built aircraft which is what you may be seeing.

A388 · Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:28 pm

Hello everybody, is there an exact date or week when will KLM receive their first 787-10? I know it will be in June or July, right?

A388

ual747-600 · Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:04 pm

Line #798 EY 789 A6-BLX delivery flight

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETD ... /KCHS/OMAA

UAL747-600

Miquel787 · Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:04 pm

A388 wrote:
Hello everybody, is there an exact date or week when will KLM receive their first 787-10? I know it will be in June or July, right?

A388

Hi, KLM gets it,s first 787-10 in June with reg.number PH-BKA and they will have a total of 4 in the fleet by the end of 2019.

A388 · Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:22 pm

Miquel787 wrote:
A388 wrote:
Hello everybody, is there an exact date or week when will KLM receive their first 787-10? I know it will be in June or July, right?

A388

Hi, KLM gets it,s first 787-10 in June with reg.number PH-BKA and they will have a total of 4 in the fleet by the end of 2019.

Thanks Miguel787. I'm asking this because I might go on vacation to the Netherlands in July this year so I hope I can catch their 787-10. They will most likely only have 1 787-10 by mid July(?)

A388

jeffrey0032j · Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:18 pm

The registration N12006 has been assigned to cn 60140. Possibly ZC041/LN 814?

This also means its yet another registration that N548ZC will not be wearing. Next registration reserved by UA for the 78X is N91007 that has not been assigned yet, which could be quite likely considering N16008 has been assigned to cn 60138, similarly N16009 has been assigned to cn 40938.

Miquel787 · Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:53 pm

A388 wrote:
Miquel787 wrote:
A388 wrote:
Hello everybody, is there an exact date or week when will KLM receive their first 787-10? I know it will be in June or July, right?

A388

Hi, KLM gets it,s first 787-10 in June with reg.number PH-BKA and they will have a total of 4 in the fleet by the end of 2019.

Thanks Miguel787. I'm asking this because I might go on vacation to the Netherlands in July this year so I hope I can catch their 787-10. They will most likely only have 1 787-10 by mid July(?)

A388

Hi A388, i think the next one will arive in August...I know that San Fransisco will be one of the first routes. By mid July they still have only one in service.

qf789 · Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:13 am

Gulf Air 789 A9C-FF has been delivered

https://twitter.com/flightintl/status/1 ... 62821?s=21

george77300 · Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:14 am

Miquel787 wrote:
A388 wrote:
Miquel787 wrote:
Hi, KLM gets it,s first 787-10 in June with reg.number PH-BKA and they will have a total of 4 in the fleet by the end of 2019.

Thanks Miguel787. I'm asking this because I might go on vacation to the Netherlands in July this year so I hope I can catch their 787-10. They will most likely only have 1 787-10 by mid July(?)

A388

Hi A388, i think the next one will arive in August...I know that San Fransisco will be one of the first routes. By mid July they still have only one in service.

This is the initial 787-10 schedule for KLM. (Subject to change of course)

Amsterdam – Dubai eff 03JUL19 3 weekly (5 weekly from 01OCT19)
Amsterdam – Kilimanjaro – Dar es Salaam – Amsterdam eff 01JUL19 4 weekly
Amsterdam – Toronto eff 29SEP19 5 weekly

To catch it in July you will need to go to DXB or JRO/DAR. By the looks of the schedule doable on one frame and the second frame needed by 29 Sep 19.

qf789 · Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:42 am

Air Canada C-FVND returns to PAE after its B1 flight

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/10 ... 31233?s=20

qf789 · Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:55 am

Norwegian 789 G-CKWS on a taxi test, wearing Tail Hero, Spanish naturalist Felix Rodriguez de la Fuente.

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/10 ... 89056?s=20

qf789 · Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:59 am

Gulf Air 789 A9C-FF returns to PAE from a test flight on the 7th of Feb

https://twitter.com/royalscottking/stat ... 57024?s=20

qf789 · Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:02 am

WestJet 789 C-GURP prior to departure for a test flight from PAE on the 9th of Feb

https://twitter.com/royalscottking/stat ... 13600?s=20

qf789 · Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:07 am

WestJet 789 C-GUDO on the flightline awaiting testing

https://twitter.com/KPAE_Spotter/status ... 98529?s=20

qf789 · Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:09 am

Suparna 789 B-208C returning to CHS after a test flight

https://twitter.com/cassidysvacay/statu ... 46656?s=20

navjotgill45 · Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:24 am

Actually that's B-208C. B-206C is a CZ 737-800.

So many identical looking airlines coming out of China, a true nightmare for spotting.

MoonC · Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:54 am

navjotgill45 wrote:
Actually that's B-208C. B-206C is a CZ 737-800.

So many identical looking airlines coming out of China, a true nightmare for spotting.

I would say indentical registration numbers. Suparna and CZ (China Southern) look nothing alike.

But the reason many airlines wear this particular livery is because they all belong to the HNA group.

You can see the list of airlines grouped under the HNA umbrella here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNA_Group#HNA_Aviation

qf789 · Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:05 pm

First 787-9 for EgyptAir has rolled out of assembly, LN823

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/10 ... 48801?s=20

qf789 · Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:44 am

Korean Air 789 HL8345 departing PAE for MWF on its B1 flight, then positioning to PDX for painting

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/10 ... 97058?s=20

qf789 · Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:56 am

Uzbekistan Airways 788 UK-78705 out of final assembly and at the fuel dock

https://twitter.com/KPAE_Spotter/status ... 99136?s=20

qf789 · Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:59 am

WestJet 789 C-GURP has been delivered PAE-YYZ

https://twitter.com/KPAE_Spotter/status ... 27584?s=20

NYC777 · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:17 am

I've updated my 787 spreadsheets up to L/N 975

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

george77300 · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:52 pm

NYC777 wrote:
I've updated my 787 spreadsheets up to L/N 975

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:42 am

Oman Air 789 A4O-SI on the flightline after painting (22 Feb)

https://twitter.com/KPAE_Spotter/status ... 11937?s=20

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:59 am

WestJet 789 C-GUDO initial APU run at fuel dock (26 Feb) and then moved to compass rose

[imghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0YFxJoV4AEfMKC?format=jpg[/img]

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/11 ... 16256?s=20

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:00 am

Norwegian 789 G-CKWS at the delivery center (27 Feb)

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/11 ... 57411?s=20

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:06 am

Air Canada 789 C-FVND being delivered PAE-MCI (22 Feb)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/10 ... 63873?s=20

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:12 am

Norwegian latest 789 LN827 has rolled out of final assembly and now at fuel dock (28 Feb), tail hero American Human Rights activist Harvey Milk

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/11 ... 30848?s=20

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:41 am

Uzbekistan Airways 788 UK-78705 Taxi test (28 Feb)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/11 ... 76800?s=20

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:48 am

Norwegian 789 G-CKWS delivered PAE-LGW (28 Feb)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/11 ... 11905?s=20

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:50 am

WestJet C-GUDO taxi test and first flight (1 Mar)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/11 ... 41024?s=20

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:03 am

In February 11 787's delivered, 10 789's (1 each to LOT, Japan Airlines, Etihad, Gulf Air, Norwegian, American, WestJet, Suparna, Eva Air and Air Canada) and 1 787-10 (United)

For March we should see a good number of 787's delivered, currently there are 4 waiting to be delivered with another 7 in production testing.

In the latest update first time operators include

British Airways 787-10 LN956
Vistara 787-9 LN975

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... dit#gid=19

sabby · Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:16 am

qf789 wrote:
In February 11 787's delivered, 10 789's (1 each to LOT, Japan Airlines, Etihad, Gulf Air, Norwegian, American, WestJet, Suparna, Eva Air and Air Canada) and 1 787-10 (United)

For March we should see a good number of 787's delivered, currently there are 4 waiting to be delivered with another 7 in production testing.

In the latest update first time operators include

British Airways 787-10 LN956
Vistara 787-9 LN975

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... dit#gid=19

Wow, didn't expect Vistara to get slots so early ! Didn't they order only 8-9 months ago ?

qf789 · Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:54 am

sabby wrote:
qf789 wrote:
In February 11 787's delivered, 10 789's (1 each to LOT, Japan Airlines, Etihad, Gulf Air, Norwegian, American, WestJet, Suparna, Eva Air and Air Canada) and 1 787-10 (United)

For March we should see a good number of 787's delivered, currently there are 4 waiting to be delivered with another 7 in production testing.

In the latest update first time operators include

British Airways 787-10 LN956
Vistara 787-9 LN975

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... dit#gid=19

Wow, didn't expect Vistara to get slots so early ! Didn't they order only 8-9 months ago ?

The order was placed on the 16 October last year, their first delivery will likely be in Feb 2020. It has often been said a 787 can normally be delivered within 18 months of being ordered.

sabby · Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:50 am

qf789 wrote:
sabby wrote:
qf789 wrote:
In February 11 787's delivered, 10 789's (1 each to LOT, Japan Airlines, Etihad, Gulf Air, Norwegian, American, WestJet, Suparna, Eva Air and Air Canada) and 1 787-10 (United)

For March we should see a good number of 787's delivered, currently there are 4 waiting to be delivered with another 7 in production testing.

In the latest update first time operators include

British Airways 787-10 LN956
Vistara 787-9 LN975

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... dit#gid=19

Wow, didn't expect Vistara to get slots so early ! Didn't they order only 8-9 months ago ?

The order was placed on the 16 October last year, their first delivery will likely be in Feb 2020. It has often been said a 787 can normally be delivered within 18 months of being ordered.

Ahh, I thought their first 787 is already in FAL, silly me. Still, delivery after just 18 months after order is pretty darn good for a product with 5-6 years of backlog.

77H · Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:43 am

During development, Boeing advised the recommended colors for the engine cowlings/nacelles was either white or grey to minimize drag and increase performance.

Several of the early 787 operators like NH, UA, NZ, JQ and AI chose all white nacelles even when other aircraft in their fleets have painted nacelles.

As the 787 line had matured, later operators have chosen to paint the nacelles in their standard liveries. AA, BA, VS, VN spring to mind as carriers who have painted their 787 nacelles in standard livery.

Question is.. are the latter carriers seeing appreciable performance hits relative to carriers that have left them white?

Cards on the table, I made a stand alone thread about this but it was moved to the tech ops thread and was ultimately unanswered.

77H

JayinKitsap · Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:54 pm

77H wrote:
During development, Boeing advised the recommended colors for the engine cowlings/nacelles was either white or grey to minimize drag and increase performance.

Several of the early 787 operators like NH, UA, NZ, JQ and AI chose all white nacelles even when other aircraft in their fleets have painted nacelles.

As the 787 line had matured, later operators have chosen to paint the nacelles in their standard liveries. AA, BA, VS, VN spring to mind as carriers who have painted their 787 nacelles in standard livery.

Question is.. are the latter carriers seeing appreciable performance hits relative to carriers that have left them white?

Cards on the table, I made a stand alone thread about this but it was moved to the tech ops thread and was ultimately unanswered.

77H

It appears to be a thickness of coating issue, as the nacelle is already a near white material so the white and gray cover better to keep the thickness down. The 787 has laminar flow on the nacelle which requires very smooth surfaces. Multiple colors have an edge bump at the color change, a detriment to the laminar flow. It is likely that the coatings used on the nacelles have broadened the palette since first introduction.

https://www.byk.com/fileadmin/byk/suppo ... nology.pdf

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... es-385222/

On my boat I have a super slick bottom paint, it has only been out a few years, I am sure something like this is used on the nacelles. It is so slick that I have to use my trailer winch to launch the boat, it slides so easy I can't get the winch line unhooked, it is like I have rollers instead of bunks. Initially it was available in only a few colors, now there are a lot of colors.

http://www.wearloncorp.com/index.php/pr ... ed_Coat-49

qf789 · Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:02 am

Overview of Boeing flightline, 9 787's in total

https://twitter.com/KPAE_Spotter/status ... 02816?s=20

TropicalSky · Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:42 pm

I love this new format you used...please continue

qf789 wrote:
Overview of Boeing flightline, 9 787's in total

https://twitter.com/KPAE_Spotter/status ... 02816?s=20

B764er · Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:19 pm

That air tahiti 87's livery reminds a bit of the thomsonfly livery. Very nice and wavy, it flatters
the round forms of the dreamliner.

TropicalSky · Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:09 am

looking like a new B788 for AAL
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9661

ikolkyo · Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:07 am

TropicalSky wrote:
looking like a new B788 for AAL
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9661

Nah, that’s N804AN returning from some work being done in PAE. N814AA appears to have taken its place.

itchief · Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:32 am

ikolkyo wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
looking like a new B788 for AAL
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9661

Nah, that’s N804AN returning from some work being done in PAE. N814AA appears to have taken its place.

Premium Economy installed at PAE. New aircraft always go to DFW first, not ORD. AAL does not have any new 788's scheduled for delivery this year(2019)

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