User avatar
1337Delta764
Posts: 5656
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:02 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:57 pm

wjcandee wrote:
Yeah it's just the airside that they will not be renewing. I'm not sure when the contract rolls over. Presumably, they gave Amazon plenty of time to make adjustments. This raises the question of whether Amazon will transition to a one-day are network, or make the commitment to adding one day are on a significant basis. It also opens up an opportunity for the postal service and for DHL, frankly, to pick up overnight air shipment, even if DHL delivery Network can't support it.


From what I read, the contract ends on June 30.
Yes, I wear Fairy Tale Pink IZOD shirts. I am a real man.
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:34 pm

1334: Thanks. Then they already have been planning for it. It will be interesting to see how they play it.
 
smokeybandit
Posts: 1046
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:24 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:38 pm

I rarely ever get anything delivered by FedEx from Amazon. It's mostly USPS and Amazon, with some UPS and Lasership scattered in
 
User avatar
1337Delta764
Posts: 5656
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:02 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:20 pm

Who knows if FedEx Ground will follow suit soon. I have actually never gotten an Amazon-fulfilled order via FedEx Ground or Home Delivery. The only time I have ever gotten a FedEx delivery from an Amazon-fulfilled order to my house was a paid upgrade to One-Day Shipping in 2017 for a Saturday delivery. For comparison, I have gotten UPS Ground twice, and a few times I have gotten UPS 2nd Day or Next Day Air. The only times I get FedEx Home Delivery are Seller-Fulfilled Prime orders (usually pool chlorine tablets shipping from Las Vegas).
Yes, I wear Fairy Tale Pink IZOD shirts. I am a real man.
 
User avatar
1337Delta764
Posts: 5656
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:02 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:39 am

According to some information I have been reading, this year FedEx won the Target contract, unseating UPS. I wonder if this has anything to do with them dumping Amazon.
Yes, I wear Fairy Tale Pink IZOD shirts. I am a real man.
 
HPRamper
Posts: 4940
Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 4:22 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:45 am

1337Delta764 wrote:
According to some information I have been reading, this year FedEx won the Target contract, unseating UPS. I wonder if this has anything to do with them dumping Amazon.

There are a few factors at play here, but that is one of them. Target offers higher premiums for shipping so FX will make more money on a per-package basis. Second, it makes sense to not want so many eggs in one basket - get blown out with Amazon freight and piss off a thousand other shippers. It's happened. There's also some gameplay here I think. Maybe trying to stick it to Amazon on the heels of their One-Day push, even though what FX carries now is mostly the deferred 2/3 Day Amazon, they might be hoping that volume stresses the AMZ line-haul.
 
User avatar
1337Delta764
Posts: 5656
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:02 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:39 pm

Not sure what Amazon's one-day air rates were, but for two day air from information that I have found (don't have the links available), Amazon Air was normally around $6 per package (last mile carrier was not specified), UPS 2nd Day Air was around $8 per package, and FedEx Express 2-Day was around $10 per package. Apparently Amazon wanted lower rates from FedEx and FedEx refused.
Yes, I wear Fairy Tale Pink IZOD shirts. I am a real man.
 
GoodRide
Posts: 7
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:15 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:49 pm

Analysts love to speculate what Amazon’s moves mean for FedEx and UPS, putting downward pressure on stocks. By getting out in front and saying “we really don’t need you and aren’t going to carry your freight on our airplanes anymore”, they are putting their money where their mouth is and removing some of the risk to their stock associated with any future news regarding Amazon’s foray into the logistics industry.
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:21 pm

N389AZ made its first revenue flight today (6/8/19) under its new number in its new Amazon Air paint. CVG-DFW. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N389AZ

The aircraft actually went into service post-conversion on 3/10/19 under a CAM tail number, N382CM (N930WE before that, after being acquired by 30 West from Air New Zealand; 30 West sold it to CAM, and CAM converted it.) Among other things, it subbed for N399CM on LAX-HNL while that aircraft was getting a maintenance check. Now it has been dry-leased to Amazon, and will be flown only on Amazon flights, and ATI is continuing to operate it.

Two more are close behind:

N730WE, to be N367AZ, is currently in paint at ROW. (Flew there straight from conversion, and has been there for 3 weeks, oddly. It's usually a very-reliable two weeks at Dean Baldwin Painting.) It will then go to ILN for conformity before going into service.

N373AA, to be N379AZ, is currently in paint at Dean Baldwin's facility at GUS. She has been there a week so should have about another week to go. That frame, like 382CM, is already on the ATI certificate, having finished conversion in late November 2018, and has been operating flights in grey paint applied in TLV over the primer, with the rudder still in AA colors, largely for UPS until recently. It will emerge in the Amazon Air livery. I would guess that this aircraft will actually go to Amazon sooner, as there is less to do to it at ILN when it's done with paint.

And a little side note: ATSG still has two routes for UPS: PHL-MCO and PHL-MIA. ATI was flying both initially with 767-300s. Then, PHL-MIA came off of ATI when 373AA came out of service for them and went to TPA for some work. That route went to ABX, which serviced it with a 767-200, while 376AN continued to fly PHL-MCO. As of the first week of June, 376AN came off of UPS to do spare/military work while the aircraft usually assigned to those duties, 395CM, is at ILN for maintenance. So the carriers switched. ATI is now flying the 767-200 route, PHL-MIA, with 255CM, and ABX is flying the 767-300 route, PHL-MCO, with recently-unemployed/underutilized 363CM.
 
AV8AJET
Posts: 1157
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:10 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:28 am

Anyone have any updates on N663GT that Atlas acquired for cargo conversion? I’m sure it’ll be reregistered at some point with N????A
"To fly or not to fly there is no question!"
 
User avatar
Spacepope
Posts: 4242
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 1999 11:10 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:01 am

AV8AJET wrote:
Anyone have any updates on N663GT that Atlas acquired for cargo conversion? I’m sure it’ll be reregistered at some point with N????A


I seem to recall that one is to stay in their pax fleet, no conversion so far. Edit in TPE for conversion since mid March, they tend to be slightly quicker than bedek, but I’d anticipate seeing it in a few months.
The last of the famous international playboys
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:52 am

Yeah, TPE was getting them done and painted in 3-4 months, so we should see it soon. If it's going to Amazon, then I guess it's replacing 1217A, the accident aircraft, because Atlas isn't currently slated to expand its fleet of Amazon 767-300s. But it's not clear to me that it's going to be used for Amazon.
 
MO11
Posts: 1122
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:27 pm

CAM signed for N379AA on Tuesday.
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:41 pm

MO11 wrote:
CAM signed for N379AA on Tuesday.


Thanks for that info. I reported its retirement and movement to storage on the 767 thread, but didn't post it here. I'm glad you updated us.

Was that retirement anticipated in our understanding of the AA current plan?
 
MO11
Posts: 1122
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:16 pm

I show year-to-year June was supposed to be 3, and that's what we have.

Now I have to figure out what Atlas is going to use N112UA for.
 
MO11
Posts: 1122
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:38 pm

MO11 wrote:
I show year-to-year June was supposed to be 3, and that's what we have.

Now I have to figure out what Atlas is going to use N112UA for.



Should be N119UA...
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:54 pm

After exactly 30 days at ROW, twice the usual time for painting, N730WE will be on her way to ILN tonight. (6/14/19). Will be in Amazon Air colors. Went to ROW straight (but not nonstop) from conversion in TLV.
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:56 pm

Well...N730WE is delayed coming from post-conversion paint at ROW, after being there a month. (Was also at TLV an extended time: 8.5 months.) Presumably will move soon. To be N367AZ.

However, N373AA (already operating by ATI) finished repainting into Amazon Air paint in the normal time and has now returned to ILN from GUS. To be N379AZ.
 
sunking737
Posts: 1442
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:33 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:21 pm

703WE/367AZ going to be the problem child airplane?? Just doesn't want to cooperate with anyone, at time, anyplace??? :)
I'm a SUNDUCK......Worked for RC & SY @ MSP
 
DeltaRules
Posts: 4932
Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:57 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:42 am

What's the latest on the start of ILN ops? Last I'd heard it was to happen this month.
A310/319/320/321/333, ARJ, BN2, B717/722/73S/733/734/735/73G/738/739/744/757/753/767/763/764/777, CR1/2/7/9, DH6, 328, EM2/ERJ/E70/E75/E90, F28/100, J31, L10/12/15, DC9/D93/D94/D95/M80/M88/M90/D10, SF3, SST
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:09 am

sunking737 wrote:
703WE/367AZ going to be the problem child airplane?? Just doesn't want to cooperate with anyone, at time, anyplace??? :)


Well, 730 flew straight to TLV from ASP, never coming yet to ILN. When they're sitting in TLV, sometimes that's because they are waiting for parts or extra work is being done -- and sometimes it's because Bedek hasn't gotten around to starting on it yet. So maybe the extra 2.5 months was because it needed something, and maybe it wasn't.

Similarly, I don't know the reason for the extra time in ROW; Dean Baldwin has been a very-reliable two-week process for a decade or more of painting ATSG aircraft. However, maybe some other stuff was done there at the same time given that it never went to ILN before going to paint. Or maybe it's been AOG there for two weeks after painting...

But I wouldn't be surprised to see 730 spend a little more time at ILN than some of the others when it finally gets there, given that it has not spent time there yet.
 
Whiplash6
Posts: 130
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:30 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:51 am

DeltaRules wrote:
What's the latest on the start of ILN ops? Last I'd heard it was to happen this month.


August
 
GoodRide
Posts: 7
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:15 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:44 am

Whiplash6 wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
What's the latest on the start of ILN ops? Last I'd heard it was to happen this month.


August


As early as the first week of July, looking at my current schedule.
 
Whiplash6
Posts: 130
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:30 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:23 pm

GoodRide wrote:
Whiplash6 wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
What's the latest on the start of ILN ops? Last I'd heard it was to happen this month.


August


As early as the first week of July, looking at my current schedule.


I should’ve stated at Atlas ILN service starts in August.
 
User avatar
Acey559
Posts: 1325
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:30 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:10 pm

My schedule shows I should be in ILN in July 5th but our travel department notified us of a potential schedule change. Not sure if it’s ILN specific or maybe Amazon is reducing the schedule as they often do on holidays.
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie.
 
Delta28L
Posts: 211
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:00 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:01 pm

What cities will be served out of ILN?
 
User avatar
Acey559
Posts: 1325
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:30 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:39 pm

Delta28L wrote:
What cities will be served out of ILN?


I’ll be flying DFW-ILN (barring any schedule changes) but I’d have to see where else. As Whiplash posted above, Atlas will be starting shortly after and he’d probably be able to give you a better idea of their routes. I’ll look at the bids to see where ATI will be going.
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie.
 
User avatar
Acey559
Posts: 1325
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:30 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:44 pm

Just a cursory search of our bids shows TPA-ILN-SEA and RFD-ILN-PHX mixed in with lots of DFW. I’m wondering if it’s going to ramp up slowly to give the new ground crews time to get up to speed. Oddly, in two weeks I only fly to ILN once. Normally we do a circular routing and touch mostly the same cities, but it appears things are more linear in the upcoming schedule.
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie.
 
KCVGSpotter
Posts: 32
Joined: Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:54 pm

Looks like the next 737-800 is out. N855DM ferried to Paris for Boeing to showcase BCF.

https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/sta ... 9360364544
 
Whiplash6
Posts: 130
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:30 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:05 pm

Delta28L wrote:
What cities will be served out of ILN?


ONT and IAH.
 
GoodRide
Posts: 7
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:15 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:13 pm

Amazon partners with GECAS to lease an additional fifteen 737-800 Converted Freighters

https://www.genewsroom.com/press-releas ... ers-284880
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:15 pm

GoodRide wrote:
Amazon partners with GECAS to lease an additional fifteen 737-800 Converted Freighters

https://www.genewsroom.com/press-releas ... ers-284880


By leasing these from GECAS, which was the BCF launch customer, Amazon has a lot of flexibility as to the choice of carriers to operate them. It has that with the 767s, but it's a little less-complicated as a practical matter when the aircraft are leased from a truly-independent lessor that isn't owned by the parent company of one of the operators. It's a little bit of a missed-opportunity for ATSG; if PEMCO were a little further-along with its -800 freighter conversion program, it could have been a nicely-profitable little gig for ATSG: purchase the aircraft, convert them in-house at PEMCO, lease them to Amazon through CAM, its leasing subsidiary, and operate them with one of its carriers. A few factors weighed against this, unfortunately. Perhaps most-importantly, GECAS already had a stable of 737-800 lease returns that it could allocate to the conversion program -- finding good feedstock at a price that makes 737-800 conversion/leasing viable has been a significant roadblock to such programs ramping up sooner. (It does on every anticipated freight-conversion program; one has to hit the sweet spot in the used market where there is a surplus of passenger aircraft of that model that aren't being re-leased to secondary carriers. When would the 757 prices fall enough to make them worthy of converting? The 767? Etc. One anomaly was the MD11, which airlines withdrew from passenger service much earlier age-and-cycle-wise than anticipated, and their resale value fell through the floor, making a good supply of them available for cargo conversion at an affordable price, leading to conversions at a younger-age than typical. The investors (airline and private) that purchased them for passenger use (and lease) took a huge loss, but the companies that then purchased them used for freighter conversions made a normal profit.)

Secondarily for ATSG, none of their airlines yet flew 737-800s. I think their A321 conversion program will someday be a good one, and they are out in front on it, but not until enough of that type become available to convert at an appropriate price. And they may have dodged a bullet on ramping up a 20-aircraft 737-800 operation program; it's currently a goatrope over at Southern. I wouldn't be surprised to see Doug Kalitta or NAC ultimately involved in operating some of the 20, although the latter seems to have its hands full just staffing its existing 3-aircraft 767 and 6-ish aircraft 737 operation (including Aloha).
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:03 pm

After a number of false starts, 730WE has arrived at ILN. :champagne:
 
32andBelow
Posts: 3969
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:54 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:10 am

They announced cargo service to ANC starting 27jun
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:52 am

Nothing like local officials jumping the gun on the announcement. The service itself is a sensible and interesting play.
 
User avatar
Acey559
Posts: 1325
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:30 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:57 am

For those interested, the routing will be SEA-ANC-PHX.
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie.
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:08 am

Acey559 wrote:
For those interested, the routing will be SEA-ANC-PHX.


Thank you! Interesting.
 
AV8AJET
Posts: 1157
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:10 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:43 am

Acey559 wrote:
For those interested, the routing will be SEA-ANC-PHX.


Any idea if it's Atlas or ATSG?
"To fly or not to fly there is no question!"
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:53 am

AV8AJET wrote:
Acey559 wrote:
For those interested, the routing will be SEA-ANC-PHX.


Any idea if it's Atlas or ATSG?


I assumed that it would be Atlas because the ANC Airport announcement used a photo of N1427A, taken at ANC by an ANC employee, as part of its announcement. However, on further thought, 1427A was converted in TPE, and may have stopped at ANC on the way home; the photo didn't say when it was taken, and I doubt Amazon would fly an aircraft up to ANC for a photo op without doing PR of its own on the service, which apparently they haven't done yet. So I (gawd) looked at 1427A's history on FA, and it hasn't been anywhere near ANC in June. So it's an old photo.

Then allowing that Acey knows more about ATSG than Atlas, I'm guessing it's gonna be an ATSG route, most likely ATI.
 
User avatar
Acey559
Posts: 1325
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:30 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:47 pm

SEA-ANC-PHX will be an ATI route to start. I’m guessing there will be more routes following this one, and Amazon likes to shuffle things around so it could go to Atlas or ABX in the future.
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie.
 
CALMSP
Posts: 2984
Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:18 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:34 pm

3 more operations are coming this year as well as ANC.
 
KCVGSpotter
Posts: 32
Joined: Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:25 am

Looks like ILN operations will start on June 26th
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:19 am

N379AZ (recently-renumbered from N373AA) did two test flights at ILN today. Looks like she's getting ready for service. (She was already on the ATI certificate, having flown in the Grey AA-ish livery through April for UPS, which she started doing promptly after coming out of conversion.)
 
MO11
Posts: 1122
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:06 pm

Amazon signed for N389AZ on Tuesday (6/25).
 
ILNFlyer
Posts: 370
Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:34 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:08 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
What's the latest on the start of ILN ops? Last I'd heard it was to happen this month.


Amazon Air ops start at ILN today 6/26 with the first arrival at 7:11pm EST.
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:51 pm

MO11 wrote:
Amazon signed for N389AZ on Tuesday (6/25).


Thanks for the info! Formerly 930WE, formerly 382CM. In service at ATI for general purposes since 3/10/19. (Subbed for 399CM on the LAX-HNL route for Aloha while 399 was in HMV.) Done with Amazon paint since 6/20/19.
 
wjcandee
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2000 12:50 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:53 pm

ILNFlyer wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
What's the latest on the start of ILN ops? Last I'd heard it was to happen this month.


Amazon Air ops start at ILN today 6/26 with the first arrival at 7:11pm EST.


Man, time flies! Looking forward to seeing the complexes, although I know they will be ramping up slowly.
 
DeltaRules
Posts: 4932
Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:57 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:06 pm

wjcandee wrote:
ILNFlyer wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
What's the latest on the start of ILN ops? Last I'd heard it was to happen this month.


Amazon Air ops start at ILN today 6/26 with the first arrival at 7:11pm EST.


Man, time flies! Looking forward to seeing the complexes, although I know they will be ramping up slowly.


Interesting- nothing's showing on FR24 or FlightAware, at least yet.
A310/319/320/321/333, ARJ, BN2, B717/722/73S/733/734/735/73G/738/739/744/757/753/767/763/764/777, CR1/2/7/9, DH6, 328, EM2/ERJ/E70/E75/E90, F28/100, J31, L10/12/15, DC9/D93/D94/D95/M80/M88/M90/D10, SF3, SST
 
BTVB6Flyer
Posts: 490
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:20 am

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:11 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
ILNFlyer wrote:

Amazon Air ops start at ILN today 6/26 with the first arrival at 7:11pm EST.


Man, time flies! Looking forward to seeing the complexes, although I know they will be ramping up slowly.


Interesting- nothing's showing on FR24 or FlightAware, at least yet.


FlightAware is showing 3 arrivals scheduled
 
Delta28L
Posts: 211
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:00 pm

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:09 pm

CLT and SMF are in the air as we speak
CLT eta is 736

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos