PlanesNTrains wrote:EMBSPBR wrote:sirtoby wrote:
Wasn't first flight planned for late 2019 before? Does that mean a delay for EIS into 2022 then?
"Embraer has moved back its schedule for entry into service of the new E175-E2 by about a year, from 2020 to 2021, due in part to the failure of U.S. major airlines to negotiate relaxed scope clauses with their pilots. The pilot contracts of all three of the airlines—United, American and Delta—stipulate a limit on maximum takeoff weight of airplanes flying at their regional affiliates. Although the current 76-seat E175 fits within those limits, the heavier E175-E2 does not, nor does the competing Mitsubishi MRJ-90."
Clearly Embraer believes that the E175-E2 will be marketable outside the US or they wouldn't move forward with it. It'll be interesting to see how many non-US sales ultimately develop for it. Hopefully plenty.
They think (hope?) scope will get relaxed in this round of pilot negotiations over the next year or 2. Scott Kirby was convinced he would make it happen at UAL and said as much publicly. I’m sure his message to embraer was no different.
To a non-pilot, a few thousand pounds difference with an otherwise same sized plane with the same seating doesn’t seem like a big obstacle to overcome with this whole scope thing, so I can see how they thought they’d get E2 scope weight concessions.
Guessing the 175E2 will have a dismal future if scope isn’t relaxed and/or if mainline refuses to take it in house. And I’d bet money neither will happen.