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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:04 pm
by FlyPNS1
BTVB6Flyer wrote:
New PHL Flights: MYR/ATL/LAS/PNS/RDU

PHL – Atlanta (ATL) flying Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday
Departs PHL 1:43pm Arrives ATL 4:05pm; departs ATL 4:55pm Arrives PHL 7:08pm
PHL – Las Vegas (LAS) flying daily
Departs PHL 9:48pm Arrives LAS 12:14am; departs LAS 9:35pm Arrives PHL 5:28am
PHL – Myrtle Beach (MYR) flying Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday
Departs PHL 7:58pm Arrives MYR 9:34pm; departs MYR 10:24pm Arrives PHL 11:59pm
PHL – Pensacola flying Monday and Friday
Departs PHL 5:20pm Arrives PNS 7:01pm; departs PNS 7:51pm Arrives PHL 11:37pm
PHL – Raleigh-Durham flying Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday
Departs PHL 2:28pm Arrives RDU 3:45pm; departs RDU 4:35pm Arrives PHL 5:54pm

http://www.phl.org/Press%20Releases/Fro ... ry%208.pdf


The F9 press release (https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-a ... ladelphia/) indicated PNS-PHL will be 3x weekly.

I must say F9's survival in the PNS market is a pleasant surprise. Many, myself included, were a little pessimistic that F9 could survive in the market. However, PNS-DEN and PNS-ORD have both survived (year-round!) and now PHL is being added. It's funny, prior to last summer, PNS-PHL had never been flown before, now you'll have two carriers in the market (AA and F9).

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:22 pm
by F9LASDEN
USAavdork wrote:
Congrats to PHL and RDU! On the subject of tips- it’s nothing new. It was on their charging device when o flew them PHL-MCO three years ago!


The tip thing is definitely not new. First time I remember seeing it was in October 2016 on an MCO-DEN flight, and have seen it plenty of times since on flights all throughout 2017 and 2018 (even when I don’t purchase anything, I can see it on the screen when they hand the device to other passengers).

One interesting thing I see quite a bit, though, is FAs skipping through that screen before handing passengers (myself included) the device. As in when the tip screen comes up, the FA hits the “No gratuity” (or something like that) option, clicks “next”, and then hands the passenger the device to sign and then give back to the FA. I definitely think I see them doing that way more often than handing passengers the device with the tip screen pulled up. In fact, the only time I think I was asked for a tip was that aforementioned MCO-DEN flight in October 2016, and I’ve flown F9 many, many, many, many times since then.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:51 pm
by F9LASDEN
Five new routes announced out of LAS today as well: DFW, IAH (resumption, last flew summer 2017), DTW, PHL (previously mentioned), and SAN, all starting either April 30 or May 1.

Schedules:
LAS-DFW: 7:48am-12:39pm
DFW-LAS: 10:59pm-11:52pm
4x weekly (M/W/F/Sa), A320

LAS-IAH: 8:30am-1:37pm
IAH-LAS: 9:12pm-10:20pm
3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su), A320

LAS-DTW: 7:30am-2:30pm
DTW-LAS: 3:20pm-4:55pm
3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su), A320

LAS-PHL: 9:35pm-5:30am (+1)
PHL-LAS: 9:48pm-12:14am (+1), (M/W/F/Sa)
PHL-LAS: 9:33pm-11:59pm (Tu/Th/Su)
Daily, A320

LAS-SAN: 1:29pm-2:39pm (Tu/Th/Su)
SAN-LAS 3:29pm-4:46pm (Tu/Th/Su)
LAS-SAN: 5:46pm-6:56pm (M/F)
SAN-LAS: 7:46pm-9:03pm (M/F)
5x weekly (M/Tu/Th/F/Su), A320

https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-a ... as-routes/

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:19 pm
by uconn99
F9 announced BDL a few weeks back with 3x weekly (I believe seasonal) service to DEN, a route already flown by UA and WN. A couple days ago they also announced BDL-RDU (already served by DL) seasonal service and now I am hearing BDL-MCO (4 carries on the route) seasonal service starts in May. Any other routes we can possibly see added to BDL? Its nice to see F9 back at BDL for a third time however I feel they could pack up and leave tomorrow with their track record.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:11 am
by spinkid
uconn99 wrote:
F9 announced BDL a few weeks back with 3x weekly (I believe seasonal) service to DEN, a route already flown by UA and WN. A couple days ago they also announced BDL-RDU (already served by DL) seasonal service and now I am hearing BDL-MCO (4 carries on the route) seasonal service starts in May. Any other routes we can possibly see added to BDL? Its nice to see F9 back at BDL for a third time however I feel they could pack up and leave tomorrow with their track record.


I totally agree, I'm not impressed and not optimistic either. Its hard to offer less than daily service, especially with multiple carriers offering daily service.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:56 pm
by rph99
spinkid wrote:
uconn99 wrote:
F9 announced BDL a few weeks back with 3x weekly (I believe seasonal) service to DEN, a route already flown by UA and WN. A couple days ago they also announced BDL-RDU (already served by DL) seasonal service and now I am hearing BDL-MCO (4 carries on the route) seasonal service starts in May. Any other routes we can possibly see added to BDL? Its nice to see F9 back at BDL for a third time however I feel they could pack up and leave tomorrow with their track record.


I totally agree, I'm not impressed and not optimistic either. Its hard to offer less than daily service, especially with multiple carriers offering daily service.


If the price is right....the seats will be filled.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:17 pm
by bdepalo
Just announced 3x weekly BWI-MCO, https://wtop.com/business-finance/2019/ ... l-orlando/

I guess they are picking up where B6 left off.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:21 pm
by flymco753
Some of F9's recent adds seem to be picking up some extra slack from services that have ended like BWI-MCO on B6 and DTW-LAS for WN.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:38 pm
by F9LASDEN
Summary of new routes announced over last three days:

From RDU:
-ALB: 3x weekly (T/Th/Su)
-BDL: 3x weekly (T/Th/Su)
-BOS: 4x weekly (M/W/F/Sa)
-CMH: 4x weekly (M/W/F/Sa)
-ISP: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)
-JAX: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)
-PHL: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)
-TPA: 4x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)

From LAS:
-DFW: 4x weekly (M/W/F/Sa)
-IAH: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)
-DTW: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)
-PHL: Daily
-SAN: 5x weekly (M/Tu/Th/F/Su)

From PHL:
-ATL: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)
-LAS: Daily
-MYR: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)
-PNS: 3x weekly (M/W/F)
-RDU: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)

From MCO:
-BDL: 4x weekly (M/W/F/Sa)
-BOS: Daily (4x weekly M/W/F/Sa from 4/19-4/29)
-BWI: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)
-DFW: 4x weekly (M/W/F/Sa)
-IAH: 3x weekly (Tu/Th/Su)
-PUJ: 3x weekly (M/W/Sa)

From BOS (new city):
-RDU: 4x weekly (M/W/F/Sa)
-MCO: Daily (4x weekly M/W/F/Sa from 4/19-4/29)

https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-a ... ew-routes/

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:50 pm
by WaywardMemphian
N292UX wrote:
2019 F9 Predictions:
-Absolute insanity on route launches
-Wouldn't shock me if F9 launches routes like SAT-PIT/PBI, RDU-SJC, PSM-MIA, ISP-MSY/JAX, MEM-RDU/IAD, and ATL-SMF
Most likely, none or very few of those routes will happen. It could be even crazier than that!


They brought back MEM-PHL for Summer 2019 so someone bought tickets. I could easily see MEM-BOS if they are serious about BOS. MEM is begging for that one the most

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:36 pm
by Fex180
Would Frontier ever start bypassing their DEN hub and start offering some "thin" transcon flights. Routes like LAX / LAS to PVD, PWM, SYR and GRR.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:02 pm
by jplatts
Fex180 wrote:
Would Frontier ever start bypassing their DEN hub and start offering some "thin" transcon flights. Routes like LAX / LAS to PVD, PWM, SYR and GRR.


F9 already has nonstop service to LAS from ATL, RSW, JAX, ORF, MCO, RDU, TPA, and IAD on the East Coast. In addition, F9 has already announced plans to serve LAS nonstop from PHL starting on April 30th.

GRR is also actually closer to LAS than some of the other destinations that already have nonstop service to LAS on F9.

F9 has already dropped some nonstop routes out of LAX, and DEN, ATL, and CVG are also the only destinations still served nonstop out of LAX on F9.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:46 am
by Buffalomatt1027
master14225 wrote:
Then how does F9, B6, and WN do well on sun destinations out of BUF? Most of the pax at BUF are from Toronto. I did this out of what is served from BUF and other cross border airports.

Bobloblaw wrote:
master14225 wrote:
I could see F9 doing these Canadian Routes easily, I'm guessing out of the routes F9 operates from cross border airports like BUF & BTV along with airlines like Swoop operating flights from YXX & YHM.

DEN-YYZ, MCO-YYZ, LAS-YYZ, TPA-YYZ
PHX-YYC
DEN-YVR, LAS-YVR, PHX-YVR
MCO-YUL

The last thing any American carrier should do is jump into the Canada-Sun destination markets. 90% Canada point of sale in a country with no distribution presence ( places like flight center are still important in distribution). High taxes and high airport costs.


You are correct ....... B6, WN, F9, and even sunwing at Buffalo Intentional airport make a KILLLLLLLING off Canadians flying pretty much anywhere to florida, Phoenix, and vegas. Those are the most popular routes.

The legacy carriers dont even attempt those routes. They just stick to their hub and spoke model.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:16 pm
by Midwestindy
F9 is adding MCO to SAN

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:28 pm
by flymco753
Midwestindy wrote:
F9 is adding MCO to SAN
This is a resumption, they did it before.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:20 pm
by WeatherPilot
Does anyone have an idea when the next schedule extension is?

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:17 am
by TYSflyer
WeatherPilot wrote:
Does anyone have an idea when the next schedule extension is?

They just extended their schedule through mid November tonight.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:03 am
by Midwestindy
They are adding service to TYR

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:29 am
by ryanrap1
Anyway to know of any changes at SAT with the recent schedule extension ?

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:49 am
by OB1504
trpmb6 wrote:
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/frontier-airlines-asking-passengers-to-tip-cabin-crew-2019-1?r=US&IR=T

Frontier will now request for tips on all purchases.


The logical conclusion is to have the FAs holding out tip jars next to the exit slides during an evacuation.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:27 pm
by joeblow10
Anybody seeing any new routes from existing hubs outside of TYR?

Interestingly - lots of smaller routes you wouldn’t expect appear to be getting extended into next winter (Bismarck, Huntsville, etc.)

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:28 pm
by Legend757
ryanrap1 wrote:
Anyway to know of any changes at SAT with the recent schedule extension ?


Everything seems to be remaining status quo except LAS which looks to from 4X weekly to daily mid-Aug.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:39 pm
by ryanrap1
Legend757 wrote:
ryanrap1 wrote:
Anyway to know of any changes at SAT with the recent schedule extension ?


Everything seems to be remaining status quo except LAS which looks to from 4X weekly to daily mid-Aug.



Thank you for checking~

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:45 pm
by Frontier14
New service from LAS to CLT scheduled to begin in July.

Frontier 14

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:33 pm
by WeatherPilot
I'd imagine the next schedule extension should be out soon. If I remember correctly it was around this time last year that fall and winter schedules came out.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:10 pm
by weaglibrium
WeatherPilot wrote:
I'd imagine the next schedule extension should be out soon. If I remember correctly it was around this time last year that fall and winter schedules came out.


The Fall schedules have been out. Bookable through Mid-November now.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 10:15 pm
by SRQLOT
What’s the story with Frontier at Sarasota SRQ, I knew that Atlanta and Philadelphia were going to be seasonal, but I don’t see any available flights in the fall. Will it only be Cleveland now? And the few connections they offer thru CLE that are super expensive and crazy hours. Do they have plans to go somewhere else from SRQ?

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 10:26 pm
by WeatherPilot
weaglibrium wrote:
WeatherPilot wrote:
I'd imagine the next schedule extension should be out soon. If I remember correctly it was around this time last year that fall and winter schedules came out.


The Fall schedules have been out. Bookable through Mid-November now.


I guess I mean the rest of the year through winter. After the November date they have up for sale right now.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 1:45 am
by jplatts
SRQLOT wrote:
What’s the story with Frontier at Sarasota SRQ, I knew that Atlanta and Philadelphia were going to be seasonal, but I don’t see any available flights in the fall. Will it only be Cleveland now? And the few connections they offer thru CLE that are super expensive and crazy hours. Do they have plans to go somewhere else from SRQ?


While F9 doesn't currently serve SRQ nonstop from DEN, F9 will probably add DEN-SRQ nonstop service on at least a seasonal basis as F9 usually serves DEN nonstop from most of its destinations in the contiguous U.S.

F9 adding SRQ-CVG is another possibility, even though F9 hasn't added any new nonstop domestic routes out of CVG since July 2017.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 2:03 am
by Frontier14
SRQLOT wrote:
What’s the story with Frontier at Sarasota SRQ, I knew that Atlanta and Philadelphia were going to be seasonal, but I don’t see any available flights in the fall. Will it only be Cleveland now? And the few connections they offer thru CLE that are super expensive and crazy hours. Do they have plans to go somewhere else from SRQ?
`

It is typical Frontier to suspend early fall flights to smaller outlier stations. I would guess ATL and PHL will resume once the snowbird migration is in full swing. As another has said, there will be some new fall/winter route announcements forthcoming before too long.

Frontier 14

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 2:58 pm
by shyspy
Frontier14 wrote:
New service from LAS to CLT scheduled to begin in July.

Frontier 14

That's weird, they already have LAS-GSP. AS I mentioned in the JetBlue thread, Frontier has been killing it here at GSP; wife and kids flew to Denver Monday night and she said the plane was completely full. Either Frontier or JB should add GSP-BOS ASAP. There are so many Boston transplants down here, it's crazy.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 1:30 am
by Midwestindy
WeatherPilot wrote:
weaglibrium wrote:
WeatherPilot wrote:
I'd imagine the next schedule extension should be out soon. If I remember correctly it was around this time last year that fall and winter schedules came out.


The Fall schedules have been out. Bookable through Mid-November now.


I guess I mean the rest of the year through winter. After the November date they have up for sale right now.


According to this: https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/f ... 219774001/

"Frontier Airlines is currently accepting reservations through Nov. 13. The airline expects to begin holiday bookings at the end of June, spokesman Zach Kramer said."

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:57 am
by Midwestindy
Schedule has been extended through March 11th

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:35 am
by Jshank83
Midwestindy wrote:
Schedule has been extended through March 11th


And F9s crazy schedule changes continue.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:39 pm
by Frontier14
Frontier to add new, less than daily, flights from Cincinnati to the following cities beginning in October and November: FLL, MIA, MSY, Sarasota Florida.

Frontier 14

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:51 pm
by 727LOVER
Frontier14 wrote:
Frontier to add new, less than daily, flights from Cincinnati to the following cities beginning in October and November: FLL, MIA, MSY, Sarasota Florida.

Frontier 14


Sarasota = SRQ...just so you never do that again :lol: :lol:

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:23 pm
by Frontier14
727LOVER wrote:
Frontier14 wrote:
Frontier to add new, less than daily, flights from Cincinnati to the following cities beginning in October and November: FLL, MIA, MSY, Sarasota Florida.

Frontier 14


Sarasota = SRQ...just so you never do that again :lol: :lol:


Thanks, I couldn't remember the 3 letter code when I drafted the thread. Wanted to make it SAR but that did not look right. :banghead:

Frontier 14

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:26 pm
by rph99
I know this is being discussed on the Paris Air Show pages but thought I’d mention it here as well (sorry if this is frowned upon).

Crazy that Indigo Partners has altered and added to a previous order to bring on 50 A321XLR starting in 2023. With 18 of them slated to go to Frontier.

What in the world is F9 gonna do with these bad boys? Run them at max seating capacity? Less seats for more range? Frontier would be stupid not to run flights out of Vegas or Denver to Hawaii...they could bring in a lot of connecting traffic as well.

Idk....I just love Frontier (don’t ask me why) and I am beyond excited for this.

Maybe an agreement between Wizz and Frontier for connecting Europe to the States?

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:04 pm
by knope2001
Not really finding much new or interesting so far in the new Frontier period at this point. The new CVG flights (sub-daily New Orleans and Florida) are out there but they actually start about five weeks before the end of the existing schedule period. So that's likely the result of some warm-season flights getting their seasonal schedule terminated early or a new aircraft. There are definitely some year-over-year frequency adjustments and I've seen and some seasonal stuff from last winter not coming back, but there's certain to be some new stuff rolled out not showing in the new period yet.

Regarding MKE specifically the sub-daily SAN flight is not coming back, though it isn’t a surprise given that when they pulled the relatively new SAN-MKE/IND/PIT flights in early 2019 it didn’t seem they were returning, and indeed none of those three are. However they are upping MKE flights to Florida and Phoenix which more than offset that loss – February appears to be up about 15% on flights and 10% on seats from last year. In particular MKE-MCO is going to daily with A321, and both MKE-TPA and MKE-RSW have consistent daily nonstops with (coveted) early morning southbound and evening northbound for both markets. At an airline not afraid to schedule flights as suboptimal times, where countless markets are less than daily, and departure times can bounce around from day to day having early morning flights to both Tampa and Fort Myers seven days a week suggests they are moneymakers to prioritize. It would be nice to see them add a Miami or Fort Lauderdale flight once the season gets going.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:36 pm
by bridge29
Looks like MDT-MCO is bumped up from 3x weekly to 4x weekly this winter. G4 recently went daily on MDT-SFB.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:58 pm
by WeatherPilot
Now that F9’s schedule extension is out there should be new proclamations from the dart board soon.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:38 pm
by Frontier14
New F9 route additions eff Nov 2019 from RDU to MIA and Atl. Both routes are announced as being daily.

Frontier 14

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:44 pm
by ericm2031
SBA-DEN is going seasonal, supposedly coming back, but guess we’ll see. UA at 4x daily to DEN with soon 2 of those on mainline and DL adding 3x daily SLC may have chased them out of the market.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:15 pm
by ryanrap1
Any news on SAT?

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:23 pm
by CitrusCritter
Any news on the performance of XNA?

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:46 pm
by sargester
any news on TYR

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:55 pm
by southsky
BFM is running pretty much full to/from DEN according to local news and over eighty percent to/from ORD. This is great for an airport and market that is only 3.5 months old.

Looking at F9's winter schedule, it looks like BFM-DEN stays 3x week through March and BFM-ORD goes on seasonal hiatus in mid-November.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:01 pm
by XNA2ASG
CitrusCritter wrote:
Any news on the performance of XNA?


From what I've heard most flights are over 80%. I'm hoping this will mean new routes out of XNA for Frontier.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:20 pm
by mn2018
Does anyone know how the flights from BMI are performing? I hope DEN and MCO are doing well.