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jplatts wrote:There are a few more routes that could be added by WN at JAX such as JAX-CMH, JAX-IND, JAX-MCI, JAX-LAX, JAX-STL, and JAX-DCA. WN could also increase JAX-MDW and JAX-HOU to at least 2 daily nonstops.
NK could also add nonstop service to JAX from ATL, DFW, IAH, LAS, and LAX.
727LOVER wrote:jplatts wrote:There are a few more routes that could be added by WN at JAX such as JAX-CMH, JAX-IND, JAX-MCI, JAX-LAX, JAX-STL, and JAX-DCA. WN could also increase JAX-MDW and JAX-HOU to at least 2 daily nonstops.
NK could also add nonstop service to JAX from ATL, DFW, IAH, LAS, and LAX.
What is the current JAX schedule for WN?
In the previous thread, JAXDan wrote:
Making some predictions for JAX in 2019, feel free to add your own.
1) JAX finally gets a west coast nonstop, my guess is UA SFO or DL LAX on an A220.
2) Nonstop to MSY, I'm thinking NK or WN
3) San Juan comes back on a low cost carrier.
Can A220 make JAX-LAX?
I could have sworn WN already did JAX-MSY....was this cut a few years back?
evank516 wrote:jetBlue 393 arrived in DAB for the final time today at 11:04 AM. jetBlue 500 is scheduled to depart on time at 12:06 PM.
JAXDan wrote:727LOVER wrote:jplatts wrote:There are a few more routes that could be added by WN at JAX such as JAX-CMH, JAX-IND, JAX-MCI, JAX-LAX, JAX-STL, and JAX-DCA. WN could also increase JAX-MDW and JAX-HOU to at least 2 daily nonstops.
NK could also add nonstop service to JAX from ATL, DFW, IAH, LAS, and LAX.
What is the current JAX schedule for WN?
In the previous thread, JAXDan wrote:
Making some predictions for JAX in 2019, feel free to add your own.
1) JAX finally gets a west coast nonstop, my guess is UA SFO or DL LAX on an A220.
2) Nonstop to MSY, I'm thinking NK or WN
3) San Juan comes back on a low cost carrier.
Can A220 make JAX-LAX?
I could have sworn WN already did JAX-MSY....was this cut a few years back?
Currently WN flies JAX-ATL/BWI/MDW/DAL/DEN/FLL/HOU/BNA
WN ended JAX-MSY quite a few years ago, the last airline to try JAX-MSY was G4 but that ended about 2 years ago.
From what i've read an A220 can go up to 3,200 nautical miles and JAX-LAX is only about 1,900 nautical miles.
727LOVER wrote:JAXDan wrote:727LOVER wrote:
What is the current JAX schedule for WN?
In the previous thread, JAXDan wrote:
Making some predictions for JAX in 2019, feel free to add your own.
1) JAX finally gets a west coast nonstop, my guess is UA SFO or DL LAX on an A220.
2) Nonstop to MSY, I'm thinking NK or WN
3) San Juan comes back on a low cost carrier.
Can A220 make JAX-LAX?
I could have sworn WN already did JAX-MSY....was this cut a few years back?
Currently WN flies JAX-ATL/BWI/MDW/DAL/DEN/FLL/HOU/BNA
WN ended JAX-MSY quite a few years ago, the last airline to try JAX-MSY was G4 but that ended about 2 years ago.
From what i've read an A220 can go up to 3,200 nautical miles and JAX-LAX is only about 1,900 nautical miles.
In that case, then yes.....JAX-LAX would seem feasible. DL tried this route before, what a/c were they using then? I think UA to SFO is certainly possible. I know WN flew to TPA because I flew that route twice. Didn't they also do ORF?
727LOVER wrote:
In that case, then yes.....JAX-LAX would seem feasible. DL tried this route before, what a/c were they using then? I think UA to SFO is certainly possible. I know WN flew to TPA because I flew that route twice. Didn't they also do ORF?
maps4ltd wrote:
Also, what is with GNV to ATL service? It's been on everything from a CR2 to a 739.
evank516 wrote:gate info for DAB, but I'm guessing they're using jetBlue's gate since they took over jetBlue's old counter.
Oslim540 wrote:evank516 wrote:gate info for DAB, but I'm guessing they're using jetBlue's gate since they took over jetBlue's old counter.
based on the signage I saw when I traveled through there they're using Gate 1 because their logo was on the TV screen behind the desk at gate 1, which sort of surprised me, I also expected them to use JetBlue's former Gate 6.
DeltaRules wrote:Oslim540 wrote:evank516 wrote:gate info for DAB, but I'm guessing they're using jetBlue's gate since they took over jetBlue's old counter.
based on the signage I saw when I traveled through there they're using Gate 1 because their logo was on the TV screen behind the desk at gate 1, which sort of surprised me, I also expected them to use JetBlue's former Gate 6.
Which gates have the ground-level "Commuter Gates"? If 6 doesn't have one and 1 does, that might be the difference.
evank516 wrote:Anyone else planning on staring at FlightAware tonight for the first flight? I do. 3M 60 is scheduled to depart at 6:30 PM.
Oslim540 wrote:evank516 wrote:Anyone else planning on staring at FlightAware tonight for the first flight? I do. 3M 60 is scheduled to depart at 6:30 PM.
I have a notification set up for 3M's flights on FR24, but I know that Silver's flight and FR24 tend not to mix well so we'll see if that works but i'll be occasionally stalking FlightAware for that flight.
evank516 wrote:DeltaRules wrote:Oslim540 wrote:based on the signage I saw when I traveled through there they're using Gate 1 because their logo was on the TV screen behind the desk at gate 1, which sort of surprised me, I also expected them to use JetBlue's former Gate 6.
Which gates have the ground-level "Commuter Gates"? If 6 doesn't have one and 1 does, that might be the difference.
I'm pretty sure that 1 does. When CO Connection flew DAB-TPA back in the early 2000s I believe they were using gate 1.
So we have Silver at 1 and Sunwing at 5 plus DL at 2 and 4 with AA at 3. I'm guessing AA will use 5 for overflow as well since Sunwing has an AM turn only twice a week coming up.
Anyone else planning on staring at FlightAware tonight for the first flight? I do. 3M 60 is scheduled to depart at 6:30 PM.
DeltaRules wrote:evank516 wrote:DeltaRules wrote:
Which gates have the ground-level "Commuter Gates"? If 6 doesn't have one and 1 does, that might be the difference.
I'm pretty sure that 1 does. When CO Connection flew DAB-TPA back in the early 2000s I believe they were using gate 1.
So we have Silver at 1 and Sunwing at 5 plus DL at 2 and 4 with AA at 3. I'm guessing AA will use 5 for overflow as well since Sunwing has an AM turn only twice a week coming up.
Anyone else planning on staring at FlightAware tonight for the first flight? I do. 3M 60 is scheduled to depart at 6:30 PM.
Cape Air shared 3 with CO.
Looks like Silver left from a remote stand off 5 or 6: https://www.facebook.com/flydaytonafirs ... 283726115/
DeltaRules wrote:Had Sunwing announced before or after B6 said they were leaving?
Oslim540 wrote:DeltaRules wrote:Had Sunwing announced before or after B6 said they were leaving?
Sunwing Announces service to DAB in September of Last Year, JetBlue announced cutting service in early October, and Silver then announced service in early December and AA announced their LGA service very shortly after silver
not sure when they were talking with Silver/Sunwing/AA but because AA and silver's announcements came so close together i'd imagine that they were talking with AA (and possibly DL) about NYC service, due to JetBlue's departure, around the same time.
evank516 wrote:AA took the bait, and they didn't even ask for incentives based on the announcement in Daytona Beach's local newspaper.
Oslim540 wrote:evank516 wrote:AA took the bait, and they didn't even ask for incentives based on the announcement in Daytona Beach's local newspaper.
interesting that you say that, because when I first read the announcement I didn't read too much into that comment that Jay Cassens made, but now that you say that it does appear american didn't/won't get incentives for that route, which surprised me because I thought that AA would get the incentives regardless; so that certainly is a weird situation.
evank516 wrote:
I don't think they're really going to need it. Remember, jetBlue didn't leave DAB because of poor loads. People used the service, but jetBlue couldn't get the premiums they needed to keep it viable,
Oslim540 wrote:evank516 wrote:
I don't think they're really going to need it. Remember, jetBlue didn't leave DAB because of poor loads. People used the service, but jetBlue couldn't get the premiums they needed to keep it viable,
while that is true, i'm surprised AA didn't take what is essentially 1 year of free/semi-free flying if they took the incentives; but it does make sense why they probably won't need it.
DeltaRules wrote:The parallels between DAB and MLB in terms of service, in light of recent adds/drops, are still remarkable:
DAB:
AA- CLT, Northeast hub (LGA)
DL- ATL
Regional carrier (3M)- FLL
Niche Canadian carrier (WG)- YYZ
Casino charter (SY)- GPT
MLB:
AA- CLT, Northeast hub (PHL, DCA)
DL- ATL
Regional carrier (Elite)- PWM
Niche Canadian carrier (PD)- YTZ, YOW, YQG
Casino charter (SY)- GPT
evank516 wrote:First Sunwing flight from YYZ arrived in DAB yesterday. The flight used Gate 6 which leads me to believe that Silver and Sunwing will probably share a gate. I also noticed that the flight did not return to YYZ directly from DAB as the plane flew YYZ-DAB-MCO-PIE-YYZ (Source: FlightAware). Anyone know what happened?
dabpit wrote:evank516 wrote:First Sunwing flight from YYZ arrived in DAB yesterday. The flight used Gate 6 which leads me to believe that Silver and Sunwing will probably share a gate. I also noticed that the flight did not return to YYZ directly from DAB as the plane flew YYZ-DAB-MCO-PIE-YYZ (Source: FlightAware). Anyone know what happened?
Sunwing does a bunch of multistop flights.
They often do YYZ-MCO-FLL-YYZ. More often than not Sunwing flights are billed as direct, not nonstop.
evank516 wrote:dabpit wrote:evank516 wrote:First Sunwing flight from YYZ arrived in DAB yesterday. The flight used Gate 6 which leads me to believe that Silver and Sunwing will probably share a gate. I also noticed that the flight did not return to YYZ directly from DAB as the plane flew YYZ-DAB-MCO-PIE-YYZ (Source: FlightAware). Anyone know what happened?
Sunwing does a bunch of multistop flights.
They often do YYZ-MCO-FLL-YYZ. More often than not Sunwing flights are billed as direct, not nonstop.
That's some pretty harsh false advertising on DAB's part then. The airport announced the flights as nonstop. Take a look:
http://www.flydaytonafirst.com/about-da ... y_id=20369
evank516 wrote:dabpit wrote:evank516 wrote:First Sunwing flight from YYZ arrived in DAB yesterday. The flight used Gate 6 which leads me to believe that Silver and Sunwing will probably share a gate. I also noticed that the flight did not return to YYZ directly from DAB as the plane flew YYZ-DAB-MCO-PIE-YYZ (Source: FlightAware). Anyone know what happened?
Sunwing does a bunch of multistop flights.
They often do YYZ-MCO-FLL-YYZ. More often than not Sunwing flights are billed as direct, not nonstop.
That's some pretty harsh false advertising on DAB's part then. The airport announced the flights as nonstop. Take a look:
http://www.flydaytonafirst.com/about-da ... y_id=20369
727LOVER wrote:evank516 wrote:dabpit wrote:Sunwing does a bunch of multistop flights.
They often do YYZ-MCO-FLL-YYZ. More often than not Sunwing flights are billed as direct, not nonstop.
That's some pretty harsh false advertising on DAB's part then. The airport announced the flights as nonstop. Take a look:
http://www.flydaytonafirst.com/about-da ... y_id=20369
Sunwing will begin twice weekly seasonal, non-stop flight service between Toronto and Daytona Beach beginning January 2019.
Well....it flew YYZ-DAB, didn't it ??
dabpit wrote:evank516 wrote:dabpit wrote:Sunwing does a bunch of multistop flights.
They often do YYZ-MCO-FLL-YYZ. More often than not Sunwing flights are billed as direct, not nonstop.
That's some pretty harsh false advertising on DAB's part then. The airport announced the flights as nonstop. Take a look:
http://www.flydaytonafirst.com/about-da ... y_id=20369
Well DAB's management team is not really the brightest bunch of bulbs in the box and truthfully Rick Carl needs to go and that is something I have said for years. He is in charge of economic development for Volusia County in addition to overseeing the airport.
DeltaRules wrote:AA's PHL-MLB goes daily in December per enirlia's thread.
727LOVER wrote:DeltaRules wrote:AA's PHL-MLB goes daily in December per enirlia's thread.
That's the good news. Bad news is Elite Airways is leaving MLB...actually, they already left
Can't find anything on google, but nothing bookable.
They'll have 1 flight to Appleton, Wis on July 22 and a return on July 25
Kronesian wrote:727LOVER wrote:DeltaRules wrote:AA's PHL-MLB goes daily in December per enirlia's thread.
That's the good news. Bad news is Elite Airways is leaving MLB...actually, they already left
Can't find anything on google, but nothing bookable.
They'll have 1 flight to Appleton, Wis on July 22 and a return on July 25
Yep, I confirmed it with the people I know who work at MLB. I think they're keeping MLB as a maintenance base, but that's about it. Elite constantly adds/deletes routes, so this isn't too surprising honestly.
SRQLOT wrote:Kronesian wrote:727LOVER wrote:
That's the good news. Bad news is Elite Airways is leaving MLB...actually, they already left
Can't find anything on google, but nothing bookable.
They'll have 1 flight to Appleton, Wis on July 22 and a return on July 25
Yep, I confirmed it with the people I know who work at MLB. I think they're keeping MLB as a maintenance base, but that's about it. Elite constantly adds/deletes routes, so this isn't too surprising honestly.
I was surprised to see MLB on the arrival board in SRQ today since reading what you guys posted. Did the flight come in or was it just a ghost destination. I checked later online and it said it arrived.