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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:29 pm

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DakotaFlyer wrote:
Feb. is officially the snowiest month ever in Minneapolis with more trouble at MSP today. Flights were temporarily halted due to low visibility and many are delayed, canceled, or being diverted.


This month has been absolutely crazy for those snow plow operators at MSP. I hope they get compensated well for the amount that they have worked this month. I saw a news story that said there have been many times where they have to sleep at MSP for many nights in a row because of the snow. Their job never ends!


It's going to be another rough stretch for them, too. 8+" today, 4+" Friday, 8+" on Sunday. They'll finish cleaning up from one event and the next will start. I really feel for them.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:46 am

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Feb. is officially the snowiest month ever in Minneapolis with more trouble at MSP today. Flights were temporarily halted due to low visibility and many are delayed, canceled, or being diverted.

Considering the amount of snow the region has received, the ground crews are doing a bang up job. Now travelers getting to the airport is another story.
Remind me to send a thank you note to Mr. Boeing.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:35 pm

Does anybody know why Sun Country only uses baggage claim D at Terminal 2? There are four baggage claim belts there at T2 and I have only ever seen C (used by WN) and D (SY) used. I have always wondered this! Sorry if it is a stupid question, I am not fully aware of how baggage claim leasing works!
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:58 pm

Why doesn't LH join the airlines flying into MSP? Loads for DE last August were 98.09% (the highest load factor in the US for DE) for the almost 10,000 seats that were available. There is definitely room for more service to FRA.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:14 pm

I would think LH and UA would rather capture any Star FRA traffic originating in MSP via a connection in ORD. Especially given DL'S strong hub and AMS flow here.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:19 pm

Another big winter storm headed our way here in MSP territory. 6-12 inches with some higher amounts Saturday into Sunday.

A deicing procedure question for MSP---I was watching a great YouTube MSP video of deicing MSP traffic and I noticed DL aircraft at the south/even F gates deicing off the gate. I was under the impression all aircraft now deiced at the deicing aprons at the end of the runaways. Can anyone clarify what the deicing procedure(s) for where aircraft deice is at MSP?
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:40 pm

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-li ... r-in-a-row

MSP named best airport in North America for 3rd year in a row

It shared the honor this year with Detroit.

ADAM URENMAR 7, 2019

Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport continues to fly high atop the rankings for the best airports in the world.

The Twin Cities travel hub was named the best airport in North America for its size for the third year in a row by Airports Council International (ACI).

It shared top billing in North America for airports that handle 25-40 million passengers with Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport.

Other winners in the same size category include Dublin Airport in Ireland, Chongqing Jiangbei International in China, and Oslo-Gardemoen Airport in Norway.


The rankings are compiled based on customer surveys, with questions relating to check-in, security, restrooms, stores, restaurants and other facilities.

MSP now counts CBS' Gayle King among its fans, with the TV host posting a video praising the airport's women's bathrooms when she was in town this past January.

"MSP Airport’s consistently high ranking underscores the effective public-private partnerships at the airport and the airport community’s shared commitment to providing the best experience possible for travelers,” said Metropolitan Airports Commission (MAC) CEO Brian Ryks in a press release.

It comes after MSP Airport was named the best airport for dining and 2nd best for shopping in the USA Today Readers' Choice awards.
Remind me to send a thank you note to Mr. Boeing.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:06 am

lavalampluva wrote:
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-lifestyle/msp-named-best-airport-in-north-america-for-3rd-year-in-a-row

MSP named best airport in North America for 3rd year in a row

It shared the honor this year with Detroit.

ADAM URENMAR 7, 2019

Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport continues to fly high atop the rankings for the best airports in the world.

The Twin Cities travel hub was named the best airport in North America for its size for the third year in a row by Airports Council International (ACI).

It shared top billing in North America for airports that handle 25-40 million passengers with Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport.

Other winners in the same size category include Dublin Airport in Ireland, Chongqing Jiangbei International in China, and Oslo-Gardemoen Airport in Norway.


The rankings are compiled based on customer surveys, with questions relating to check-in, security, restrooms, stores, restaurants and other facilities.

MSP now counts CBS' Gayle King among its fans, with the TV host posting a video praising the airport's women's bathrooms when she was in town this past January.

"MSP Airport’s consistently high ranking underscores the effective public-private partnerships at the airport and the airport community’s shared commitment to providing the best experience possible for travelers,” said Metropolitan Airports Commission (MAC) CEO Brian Ryks in a press release.

It comes after MSP Airport was named the best airport for dining and 2nd best for shopping in the USA Today Readers' Choice awards.


Good for MSP! I cannot wait for the baggage claim and ticketing renovations to be complete at Terminal 1, they will make the whole experience at MSP that much better!
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:11 am

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Does anybody know why Sun Country only uses baggage claim D at Terminal 2? There are four baggage claim belts there at T2 and I have only ever seen C (used by WN) and D (SY) used. I have always wondered this! Sorry if it is a stupid question, I am not fully aware of how baggage claim leasing works!


IIRC the first two get cordoned off and used for the international arrivals area when Condor, Iceland, and Sun Country international flights arrive. That slight restriction might be why they stick to that one for domestic flights.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:56 pm

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rainaviation2 wrote:
Does anybody know why Sun Country only uses baggage claim D at Terminal 2? There are four baggage claim belts there at T2 and I have only ever seen C (used by WN) and D (SY) used. I have always wondered this! Sorry if it is a stupid question, I am not fully aware of how baggage claim leasing works!


IIRC the first two get cordoned off and used for the international arrivals area when Condor, Iceland, and Sun Country international flights arrive. That slight restriction might be why they stick to that one for domestic flights.


Ah! I think I recall this, one time I flew through T2 and there was a wall between claims A/B and C/D. Why would they need to block this off? The passengers and their luggage have already been through customs, correct?
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:39 pm

rainaviation2 wrote:
tys777 wrote:
rainaviation2 wrote:
Does anybody know why Sun Country only uses baggage claim D at Terminal 2? There are four baggage claim belts there at T2 and I have only ever seen C (used by WN) and D (SY) used. I have always wondered this! Sorry if it is a stupid question, I am not fully aware of how baggage claim leasing works!


IIRC the first two get cordoned off and used for the international arrivals area when Condor, Iceland, and Sun Country international flights arrive. That slight restriction might be why they stick to that one for domestic flights.


Ah! I think I recall this, one time I flew through T2 and there was a wall between claims A/B and C/D. Why would they need to block this off? The passengers and their luggage have already been through customs, correct?


Kinda, again IIRC, this is where you collect your luggage prior to going through customs, they dont have a dedicated claim "behind the scenes" like at the other terminal. Instead, they flex these two claims as needed.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:50 pm

rainaviation2 wrote:
tys777 wrote:
rainaviation2 wrote:
Does anybody know why Sun Country only uses baggage claim D at Terminal 2? There are four baggage claim belts there at T2 and I have only ever seen C (used by WN) and D (SY) used. I have always wondered this! Sorry if it is a stupid question, I am not fully aware of how baggage claim leasing works!


IIRC the first two get cordoned off and used for the international arrivals area when Condor, Iceland, and Sun Country international flights arrive. That slight restriction might be why they stick to that one for domestic flights.


Ah! I think I recall this, one time I flew through T2 and there was a wall between claims A/B and C/D. Why would they need to block this off? The passengers and their luggage have already been through customs, correct?


There is a retractable wall that comes down and partitions off A and B into the T2 FIS when needed. T2 does not have its own separate international baggage claim before customs - so that is how MSP handles it.

This what is looks like with he wall down...
Image
 
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Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:20 pm

usflyer msp wrote:

There is a retractable wall that comes down and partitions off A and B into the T2 FIS when needed. T2 does not have its own separate international baggage claim before customs - so that is how MSP handles it.

This what is looks like with he wall down...
Image


Got it! Thank you!
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:58 pm

Looks like a new land transportation company operating between MSP and Duluth/Mankato. Interesting is that supposedly you'll be able to select those two cities as a destination on the airline booking system.

First partner a LCC. Any guesses? Thinking SY or F9.

https://www.wdio.com/news/landline-bus- ... ?cat=10335
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:05 pm

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Looks like a new land transportation company operating between MSP and Duluth/Mankato. Interesting is that supposedly you'll be able to select those two cities as a destination on the airline booking system.

First partner a LCC. Any guesses? Thinking SY or F9.

https://www.wdio.com/news/landline-bus- ... ?cat=10335

Amtrak is looking at running a train between Duluth and the Twin Cities. Definitely not high speed rail.

http://m.startribune.com/passenger-rail ... 476163703/
Remind me to send a thank you note to Mr. Boeing.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:34 pm

lavalampluva wrote:
tys777 wrote:
Looks like a new land transportation company operating between MSP and Duluth/Mankato. Interesting is that supposedly you'll be able to select those two cities as a destination on the airline booking system.

First partner a LCC. Any guesses? Thinking SY or F9.

https://www.wdio.com/news/landline-bus- ... ?cat=10335

Amtrak is looking at running a train between Duluth and the Twin Cities. Definitely not high speed rail.

http://m.startribune.com/passenger-rail ... 476163703/


That's more MNDot is and wants Amtrak to run it with revenue guarantees
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:03 pm

tys777 wrote:
Looks like a new land transportation company operating between MSP and Duluth/Mankato. Interesting is that supposedly you'll be able to select those two cities as a destination on the airline booking system.

First partner a LCC. Any guesses? Thinking SY or F9.

https://www.wdio.com/news/landline-bus- ... ?cat=10335


It has to be SY, NK, or WN. Why would F9 launch a new partnership with a bus company in Minneapolis? F9 serves less than 500,000 per year in MSP. My best guess is SY as they are based here in Minneapolis.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:12 am

rainaviation2 wrote:
tys777 wrote:
Looks like a new land transportation company operating between MSP and Duluth/Mankato. Interesting is that supposedly you'll be able to select those two cities as a destination on the airline booking system.

First partner a LCC. Any guesses? Thinking SY or F9.

https://www.wdio.com/news/landline-bus- ... ?cat=10335


It has to be SY, NK, or WN. Why would F9 launch a new partnership with a bus company in Minneapolis? F9 serves less than 500,000 per year in MSP. My best guess is SY as they are based here in Minneapolis.


I would agree that it's most likely SY. Never would be WN, union wouldn't allow it. Not sure if NK's latest contract addresses codeshare type ventures. That leaves F9 as the only other realistic option, even if they dont have an overwhelming presence. Remember, this service reserves cheapest seat for when you book through the airline, however anyone else is open to book for a higher price. It's not going to drive a lot of business to the LCC, but even a few seats per bus is gravy.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:58 am

I don't follow this thread too closely, but I am now connecting through MSP near-weekly.

Anyways, it appears that DL is going to be opening a new, 3rd Sky Club on Concourse G next year.
Apparently near G17.
Anyone have more details about this and/or some type of expansion to the gate hold area at the end of G?
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:31 am

tys777 wrote:
Looks like a new land transportation company operating between MSP and Duluth/Mankato. Interesting is that supposedly you'll be able to select those two cities as a destination on the airline booking system.

First partner a LCC. Any guesses? Thinking SY or F9.

https://www.wdio.com/news/landline-bus- ... ?cat=10335


In the article:
Minnesota is the launch market for the Landline service as there is a hub in the MSP Airport's Terminal 2. Sunde says there is one other market in Minnesota, and that is in Mankato. He says the plan is to expand to Eau Claire and Brainerd by the end of the year.


This seems to indicate it will be SY. It's the only LCC with a hub in MSP, and the only possibility (i.e., not B6 or WN) that uses Terminal 2.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:11 am

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
I don't follow this thread too closely, but I am now connecting through MSP near-weekly.

Anyways, it appears that DL is going to be opening a new, 3rd Sky Club on Concourse G next year.
Apparently near G17.
Anyone have more details about this and/or some type of expansion to the gate hold area at the end of G?


They’re going to build out the concourse area in that last pod on the G concourse, and reduce chronic overcrowding. Then they’ll build a new SkyClub on the roof above the newly expanded concourse area. They’re also renovating/expanding the existing f/G skyClub and adding showers. Finally.
 
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:27 am

Where exactly are they going to be expanding G? And yes, that area is rediculously crowded particularly since they love to park 739/A321/757s at those gates.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:00 am

einkleinerknabe wrote:
tys777 wrote:
Looks like a new land transportation company operating between MSP and Duluth/Mankato. Interesting is that supposedly you'll be able to select those two cities as a destination on the airline booking system.

First partner a LCC. Any guesses? Thinking SY or F9.

https://www.wdio.com/news/landline-bus- ... ?cat=10335


In the article:
Minnesota is the launch market for the Landline service as there is a hub in the MSP Airport's Terminal 2. Sunde says there is one other market in Minnesota, and that is in Mankato. He says the plan is to expand to Eau Claire and Brainerd by the end of the year.


This seems to indicate it will be SY. It's the only LCC with a hub in MSP, and the only possibility (i.e., not B6 or WN) that uses Terminal 2.


Except that when you go to book, they also offer terminal 1 as a dropoff. The news stations in Duluth suck.
 
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:10 pm

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
Where exactly are they going to be expanding G? And yes, that area is rediculously crowded particularly since they love to park 739/A321/757s at those gates.


They are expanding the concourse towards the East. I am not sure if they are still on the 2035 LTCP, but these are the latest renderings I could find for the future of the airport...

http://metroairports.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=1&clip_id=1455&meta_id=8795
 
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:44 pm

I figured at some point G would be extended to nearly the hangar to match A.
 
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:54 pm

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I figured at some point G would be extended to nearly the hangar to match A.


And potentially include the taxiway between 30L/R so you don’t have to go all the way around.
 
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Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:02 am

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
I don't follow this thread too closely, but I am now connecting through MSP near-weekly.

Anyways, it appears that DL is going to be opening a new, 3rd Sky Club on Concourse G next year.
Apparently near G17.
Anyone have more details about this and/or some type of expansion to the gate hold area at the end of G?


What I found regarding your comment

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bizjou ... n.amp.html
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:29 am

rainaviation2 wrote:
PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
Where exactly are they going to be expanding G? And yes, that area is rediculously crowded particularly since they love to park 739/A321/757s at those gates.


They are expanding the concourse towards the East. I am not sure if they are still on the 2035 LTCP, but these are the latest renderings I could find for the future of the airport...

http://metroairports.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=1&clip_id=1455&meta_id=8795


This isn’t that, per se. This is a sort of half step, building out the “missing” concourse area between the gate pods. If you look at the width of the G concourse compared to the C concourse, you can see that it’s 1/2 or less as wide, except at the gate pods. This will build in some of that space, as far as I understand, allowing for more seating areas in those pods.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:52 pm

jrkmsp wrote:
rainaviation2 wrote:
PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
Where exactly are they going to be expanding G? And yes, that area is rediculously crowded particularly since they love to park 739/A321/757s at those gates.


They are expanding the concourse towards the East. I am not sure if they are still on the 2035 LTCP, but these are the latest renderings I could find for the future of the airport...

http://metroairports.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=1&clip_id=1455&meta_id=8795


This isn’t that, per se. This is a sort of half step, building out the “missing” concourse area between the gate pods. If you look at the width of the G concourse compared to the C concourse, you can see that it’s 1/2 or less as wide, except at the gate pods. This will build in some of that space, as far as I understand, allowing for more seating areas in those pods.


Ah! I remember seeing something about that a few months ago. When are they planning to start that?
 
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Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:15 am

rainaviation2 wrote:
jrkmsp wrote:
rainaviation2 wrote:

They are expanding the concourse towards the East. I am not sure if they are still on the 2035 LTCP, but these are the latest renderings I could find for the future of the airport...

http://metroairports.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=1&clip_id=1455&meta_id=8795


This isn’t that, per se. This is a sort of half step, building out the “missing” concourse area between the gate pods. If you look at the width of the G concourse compared to the C concourse, you can see that it’s 1/2 or less as wide, except at the gate pods. This will build in some of that space, as far as I understand, allowing for more seating areas in those pods.


Ah! I remember seeing something about that a few months ago. When are they planning to start that?


I believe it's targeted for 2020.
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:17 pm

While both DL and NK will still be serving ATL nonstop from MSP after WN discontinues MSP-ATL nonstop service, SY could add MSP-ATL nonstop service.

Will SY ever add nonstop service to ATL from MSP?
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:19 pm

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While both DL and NK will still be serving ATL nonstop from MSP after WN discontinues MSP-ATL nonstop service, SY could add MSP-ATL nonstop service.

Will SY ever add nonstop service to ATL from MSP?


I would imagine that leisure O&D to ATL is pretty low, so likely not.
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:26 pm

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Elementalism wrote:
I figured at some point G would be extended to nearly the hangar to match A.


And potentially include the taxiway between 30L/R so you don’t have to go all the way around.


To me that makes complete sense. I have been on a few planes that start at the far end and make the long taxi to the other runway. Honestly dont know why they cant route the plane out to the runway it is closest.
 
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Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:50 pm

Lots of ORD diversions today. AI, NH, and MU 77W's on the ground plus a UA 753.
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:30 am

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Lots of ORD diversions today. AI, NH, and MU 77W's on the ground plus a UA 753.


Well, if I would have known that I would have gone plane spotting today! Anyone have pictures of these at MSP?
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:32 am

jplatts wrote:
While both DL and NK will still be serving ATL nonstop from MSP after WN discontinues MSP-ATL nonstop service, SY could add MSP-ATL nonstop service.

Will SY ever add nonstop service to ATL from MSP?


I think that SY *could* start this route, but it does not fit the SY model very closely. There is not much vacation traffic between MSP and ATL aside from maybe families visiting other families.
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:52 am

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Lots of ORD diversions today. AI, NH, and MU 77W's on the ground plus a UA 753.


AA also had a CUN flight clear customs at Humphry and has multiple flights spending the night because crews timed out.

Also, that AI flight was crazy delayed. Stopped in route at VIE first.
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:45 pm

According to https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-14apr19/ DL is upgrading their MSP-ICN service to an A350 starting October 27, 2019.
Remind me to send a thank you note to Mr. Boeing.
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:52 pm

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According to https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-14apr19/ DL is upgrading their MSP-ICN service to an A350 starting October 27, 2019.


Yes. There was a post on the Minneapolis Spotters Facebook page over the weekend on it. Verified via Delta.com.
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:41 pm

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According to https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-14apr19/ DL is upgrading their MSP-ICN service to an A350 starting October 27, 2019.


I saw that this morning! Great news for the MSP aviation market. Is this the aircraft that DL had planned to use on the announced intent to serve MSP-PVG too?
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:47 pm

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lavalampluva wrote:
According to https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-14apr19/ DL is upgrading their MSP-ICN service to an A350 starting October 27, 2019.


I saw that this morning! Great news for the MSP aviation market. Is this the aircraft that DL had planned to use on the announced intent to serve MSP-PVG too?

Not sure. It looks like a couple TPAC routes from LAX are being downgraded to 777-200.
Remind me to send a thank you note to Mr. Boeing.
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:16 pm

The reason is LAX has consistent J demand to Asia therefore has lower operating cost than longer routes from MSP/ATL with the refurbed 772 in LAX and A350 which burns less fuel in MSP/DTW/ATL.
 
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Thu May 16, 2019 6:51 pm

After establishing important international routes like DUB, ICN, MEX, and PVG, I also think a COPA flight makes a ton of sense.

After that, I'd really like to see MSP to SVO on SU. SU's connections to Eastern Europe, Central Asia, and Southern Asia would help a lot as those regions usually require two hops from MSP and/or other logistical gymnastics. Lots of Russians here, too.
 
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Thu May 30, 2019 2:16 pm

Southwest schedule extension for Nov/Dec today. Looks like cuts to MSP. Anyone with good insights as to why?
 
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Thu May 30, 2019 4:49 pm

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Southwest schedule extension for Nov/Dec today. Looks like cuts to MSP. Anyone with good insights as to why?

Not sure exactly the reason for it, but I wonder if it might have something to do with the MAX being grounded. I'm sure that WN might be a little stretched for aircraft right now.
Remind me to send a thank you note to Mr. Boeing.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 30, 2019 4:56 pm

It looked like there were gaps, especially with OAK-MSP where the Max would fill in if it came back late fall.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:03 pm

http://www.startribune.com/everything-y ... 512061162/

Everything you need to know about Aer Lingus, MSP Airport's new international carrier
The flag carrier of Ireland will offer direct flights between the Twin Cities and Dublin.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:31 pm

I have compiled updated numbers for MSP's international traffic in 2018...

Rank/Airport/Passengers in 2018/Comments
1 Amsterdam, Netherlands 533,796 Up by about 10,000, good to see!
2 Cancún, Mexico 288,280 Down by more than 12,000, probably due to SY focusing on other markets more
3 Toronto–Pearson, Canada 275,851 About the same
4 Paris–Charles de Gaulle, France 224,655 Up by more than 12,000, the 777 on DL must help with this a tad.
5 Winnipeg, Canada 220,534 Up by more than 20,000.... Wonder why?
6 Vancouver, Canada 175,996 Up by more than 20,000.... Also wonder why?
7 Tokyo–Haneda, Japan 168,642 About the same with no real change in the Aircraft
8 Calgary, Canada 157,225 Up by more than 10,000... Wow, Canada-MSP is doing great!
9 Reykjavík–Keflavík, Iceland 126,559 Down by around 5,000
10 London–Heathrow, United Kingdom 125,557 Up just a little
11 Edmonton, Canada 114,974 Up by about 5,000
12 Saskatoon, Canada 88,625 About the same
13 Punta Cana, Dominican Republic 87,784 Up by about 15,000, surprising with all of the travel warnings
14 Puerto Vallarta, Mexico 87,602 About the same
15 Montréal–Trudeau, Canada 62,502 A little down from 2017
16 Montego Bay, Jamaica 43,479 Up by about 3,000
17 San Jose Del Cabo, Mexico 39,729 Down by about 3,000
18 Frankfurt, Germany 28,535 Almost the exact same!
19 Liberia, Costa Rica 25,583 About the same
20 Mazatlán, Mexico 24,935 About the same

Overall, it seems like long-haul routes are up a little or about the same in 2018 from 2017... What surprises me most is the large increase in Canada=MSP routes! Any thoughts on this?
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:37 pm

ck8msp wrote:
http://www.startribune.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-aer-lingus-msp-airport-s-new-international-carrier/512061162/

Everything you need to know about Aer Lingus, MSP Airport's new international carrier
The flag carrier of Ireland will offer direct flights between the Twin Cities and Dublin.


It hasn’t been mentioned on this thread yet, but has been in the Irish thread - MSP-DUB will be going daily A330 from next May, and will remain daily for this winter season on the 757 instead of the originally planned 4 flights per week.
 
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Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:01 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
fsafsx wrote:
Theres a lot of routes that Delta is missing out on out of Minneapolis. I wonder why they don't do Portland Maine, Providence, Burlington, White Plains, Elmira, Harrisburg, Greenville, Greensboro, Birmingham, Sarasota and Myrtle Beach. They would do well on all of these routes. Why did Delta have to chose Detroit to fly to Worcester? I think Minneapolis would have been a better addition since there is plenty of more flying to the western part of the us.


IIRC, NW did PWM-MSP for just one season... on a CR2 (ugh). Why do you think those destinations would be better served out of MSP than DTW?

It had to have been about 2007. I was meeting a friend in PWM, who lived in MSP. I remember there being that non-stop but she instead went through CVG on DL due to price or schedule.

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