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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:08 pm

LI doesn't do DOM-POS these days.

The milk run is now ANU-PTP-BGI-GND-POS or ANU-BGI-GND-POS depending on the day of the week, another is EIS-SKB-ANU-BGI-OGL.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:29 pm

A Sky high J41 had an incident in DOM yesterday no serious injuries occurred.
https://caribbeannewsservice.com/now/sk ... -dominica/
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:29 pm

I see that Silver’s N435XJ is operating for Seaborne today. I hadn’t heard about them mixing the fleets.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:14 pm

gunnerman wrote:
LI doesn't do DOM-POS these days.

The milk run is now ANU-PTP-BGI-GND-POS or ANU-BGI-GND-POS depending on the day of the week, another is EIS-SKB-ANU-BGI-OGL.

caribny wrote:
trintocan wrote:
T.

In the case of LIAT, many of their routes are milk runs so for example an ANU-DOM-BGI-GND-POS routing would not only have GND originating pax bound to POS on the GND-POS leg but also ANU, DOM and BGI originating pax.

LI after all have been focused on connecting various islands to international flights out of BGI and ANU and these are their major shareholders.

Trintocan.



Some comments on this. No one boarding in ANU is going to use that flight all the way down to POS. So the last sector to POS will only be of note to the very few passengers boarding at DOM and there are other flights that can accommodate them. Given that the GND POS sector is quite late I even wonder what the loads are like. LI has a daily ANU POS GEO flight, as well as a daily ANU SLU POS flight. BW has an evening nonstop BGI POS flight.

In addition LI's role as a feeder to international flights is much less important than it used to be. Only DOM needs the ANU hub, which is partially why the northern tier has been cut. EIS/AXA UK connections via ANU are no longer handled by LIAT.


The routing I gave was really more of a hypothetical than anything else. I'm aware of both the ANU-POS nonstop and one stop (via SLU) however there are definitely still people who take the scenic route to POS from ANU due to the fact that both of those flights are in the evening. Passengers looking to get there earlier (late morning, early afternoon) actually do take the ANU-DOM-BGI (switch planes) - SVD-POS or ANU-BGI (switch planes) - GND-POS. And the later of the two flights also connects people from beyond ANU (originating in EIS/SKB) so I definitely think any transfers would have to occur at BGI to be attractive. That said, LI handing over all POS bound pax on a BGI-SVD/GND-POS routing and otherwise terminating in SVD/GND takes pax/revenue off of those flights and makes them that much more difficult to serve. LI is in a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. They apparently can't compete with BW and it's hurting their loads into POS but they can't drop POS because the marginal revenue that they'd lose from the POS bound/originating pax that they do get makes it that much more difficult to serve the rest of the region.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:56 am

gunnerman wrote:
LI doesn't do DOM-POS these days.

The milk run is now ANU-PTP-BGI-GND-POS or ANU-BGI-GND-POS depending on the day of the week, another is EIS-SKB-ANU-BGI-OGL.



No one is going to fly from ANU POS on this flight as there is an ANU POS nonstop. I am willing to bet that the loads on the GND POS sector aren't good given that this is a late flight and likely only used by GND boarding passengers. PTP POS travel will be quite nominal.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:17 am

Brickell305 wrote:
scenario. They apparently can't compete with BW and it's hurting their loads into POS but they can't drop POS because the marginal revenue that they'd lose from the POS bound/originating pax that they do get makes it that much more difficult to serve the rest of the region.


I do agree that dropping POS makes no sense, however running half empty planes also doesnt. Which is why BW/LI rationalizing service and cross selling thru code shares on the POS markets will help both carriers. BW/LI can also integrate their BGI ground operations as well. And BW's ATRs operate at times when LI connections thru BGI can work, leaving more space on its SVD flights. Also BW can also sell seats on LI's BGI POS nonstop as they tend not to have flights directly competing.

POS bound LI passengers arriving earlier into BGI will transfer to its nonstop BGI POS service Those arriving from DOM will transfer to the BGI SVD POS service. Its nonstop BGI POS service probably survives heavily on intransits from other parts of LI's system in addition.

As of now BW seems more successful on its POS GND service but less so on its POS SVD service, so if the airlines wish to rationalize services it will make more sense for BW to take GND and LI to take SVD (except for BW's flight that continues on to JFK). As is both BW and LI compete on the evening POS GND service.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:54 am

Par`bo being served by CM? I'm shook!
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:35 pm

looks like B6 is announcing JFK - GEO. live event now. Fills the gaps left by OJ and DL. Should do well.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:19 am

Interesting that just last year some folks insisted that no US carrier would ever be interested in GEO. Now there are 2 carriers. Suddenly BW isnt the legacy carrier.

The folks who made these allegations were not Caribbean people so can be forgiven for their ignorance.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:51 pm

Gonsalves says the closure of LIAT is fast approaching
April 20, 2019

Chairman of the LIAT Shareholders Government Group of Countries and Prime Minister of St. Vincent & the Grenadines, Dr Ralph Gonsalves has expressed fears that the closure of the regional island hopping carrier, LIAT is imminent as most of the countries which use the carrier services are not responding favourably to the airline’s request for US$5.4 million to ensure its survival.

Gonsalves made the statement as a guest on a popular current affairs programme in St. George’s run by the Grenada Broadcasting Network (GBN).

The Vincentian leader told the programme host that Grenada is the only government that acceded to LIAT’s request by pumping approximately $1 million into it.

“…Prime Minister Mitchell has put in approximately 1 million dollars EC towards emergency funding because he is interested in seeing LIAT remain in the sky”, he said.

According to Dr. Gonsalves, due to the lack of financial input from the other shareholding countries, LIAT’s closure is imminent.

He said that LIAT has a compliment of 10 aircraft – seven are leased and three are owned by the Barbados-based Caribbean Development Bank (CDB) due to monies borrowed and a decision will soon have to be made on the way forward.

“…We probably will have to ask the CDB to sell those three aircraft and operate seven of them and then get other smaller airline like One Caribbean to fly between here and St. Lucia, rather than get LIAT to fly on one of the routes which is going to Trinidad which is not economical to cut it”, he remarked.

“… The governments have not been responding so the shareholders are reaching a critical point now and if you ask me, what is likely to happen … there will be a transitional restructuring leading to a closure of LIAT,” he said.

Dr. Gonsalves pointed out that a new airline would then have to be the next option for the region if LIAT is closed.

https://news784.com/local-news/gonsalve ... proaching/
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:54 pm

LIAT: Employees pay cuts not enough
April 17, 2019

By Ken Richards

BASSETERRE, St Kitts (WINN) — Regional airline LIAT has asked its pilots and other employees for additional pay cuts after they recently agreed to take a six percent salary cut.

The cash-strapped airline, which is facing severe financial problems, said the six percent pay cut won’t be enough to help keep LIAT flying.


Caribbean Media Corporation (CMC) quoted an internal LIAT document that said the proposed cut does not go far enough.

The document said that the shareholders are “considering additional measures to address the financial challenges of the airline and that it would continue to update staff on discussions and the proposed measures that will be agreed upon.”

LIAT has not yet made any official comment on the matter.

Last month, pilots employed with the regional airline agreed to a less than ten percent salary cut in a bid to keep LIAT in the air.

The major shareholder governments of the airline are Antigua and Barbuda, Barbados, Dominica and St Vincent and the Grenadines.

They have been seeking to get other Caribbean countries to contribute a sum of US$5.4 million in emergency funding needed to keep LIAT operational.


https://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/2019/0 ... ot-enough/
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:49 pm

Well if the cuts in employees salaries won't help, why bother ask for them?
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:11 pm

Sky High is getting 2 ERJ145 very soon. They started SDQ-SJU and BQN
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:29 pm

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Sky High is getting 2 ERJ145 very soon. They started SDQ-SJU and BQN


They already have one, am I right? Great to see some expansion.

How about InterCaribbean, from Turks and Caicos? They also have a single ERJ-145. Is it operating already? Do they plan to add more soon?
I wonder when people will understand:
Embraer 190 or simply E190, not ERJ-190. E-Jets are NOT ERJs!
Boeing 747-8, not Boeing 747-800. Same goes for 787.
Airbus A320, not Airbus 320.
Airbii does not exist.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:55 pm

Yes Sky High fleet as today: 2 B1900, 2 JS41 (none operative), 1 ERJ145 + 2 more next month.

Intercaribbean has 2 ERJ145 at PLS, with 4 more coming when those 2 enter service and addition of 1 EMB120. They are planning a Dominican sub with 1 ERJ and 1 EMB120 starting this year,
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:39 pm

danipawa wrote:
Yes Sky High fleet as today: 2 B1900, 2 JS41 (none operative), 1 ERJ145 + 2 more next month.

Intercaribbean has 2 ERJ145 at PLS, with 4 more coming when those 2 enter service and addition of 1 EMB120. They are planning a Dominican sub with 1 ERJ and 1 EMB120 starting this year,



Has Inter Caribbean changed their minds about not operating in the Dutch Caribbean after their Insel fiasco. If not I dont see their SDQ hub being worthwhile. Especially with the expansion of these DR carriers, and the expansion of WM's SDQ operations.

Sky High just lost a plane in DOM.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:39 am

caribny wrote:
danipawa wrote:
Yes Sky High fleet as today: 2 B1900, 2 JS41 (none operative), 1 ERJ145 + 2 more next month.

Intercaribbean has 2 ERJ145 at PLS, with 4 more coming when those 2 enter service and addition of 1 EMB120. They are planning a Dominican sub with 1 ERJ and 1 EMB120 starting this year,



Has Inter Caribbean changed their minds about not operating in the Dutch Caribbean after their Insel fiasco. If not I dont see their SDQ hub being worthwhile. Especially with the expansion of these DR carriers, and the expansion of WM's SDQ operations.

Sky High just lost a plane in DOM.


With their main entry into the Dutch Caribbean (Insel Air) gone, Aruba having its own airline and Jetair Caribbean starting ops from Curacao soon it wouldn't be a wise move for them right now.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:28 pm

“Closure of LIAT is ‘imminent’”

https://viconsortium.com/featured/closu ... dent-says/
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:58 pm

LIAT isn't about to be closed as the severance package that will be needed will be in excess of what it needs to survive. Its belligerent and highly frustrated employees will definitely demand a proper severance, given that they have had to provide several salary cuts over the years and as the owners are gov'ts the major shareholders will be liable for this.

Its just Ralph running his mouth as usual. I only wish that Mia replaces him as the main spokesperson as she is more sensible, less communist minded and more solutions based. Ralph thinks that he can intimidate SLU and T&T into coughing up funds. He thinks that he no longer needs LI as he now has a jet airport (currently 3 flights weekly, one each offered by AC, BW, and AA). If LI collapses his own people are going to protest outside of his office when they can no longer fly to POS and expect all of their bags to fly with them. So he will do no such thing.

Even his MRG demand doesn't show careful thought. Some routes are profitable and some aren't. I would think that a demand for MRG would be related to this and not the numbers of flights that an island gets. Furthermore in the case of SKB maybe a 1/3 of the passengers might be in-transit traveling to/from EIS or SXM, so why should SKB pay for that.

LI needs to develop a model that focuses on the more profitable routes, and either downsize/eliminate those less profitable, or demand an MRG which offsets the losses that continued operation will entail. If an island doesn't value such route they will not pay for it and then LI can eliminate it or reduce capacity. The issue is that I don't think that LI is able to do this, so behaves like a utility, demanding MRGs based on # of flights into an island.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:37 pm

caribny wrote:
LIAT isn't about to be closed as the severance package that will be needed will be in excess of what it needs to survive. Its belligerent and highly frustrated employees will definitely demand a proper severance, given that they have had to provide several salary cuts over the years and as the owners are gov'ts the major shareholders will be liable for this.

Its just Ralph running his mouth as usual. I only wish that Mia replaces him as the main spokesperson as she is more sensible, less communist minded and more solutions based. Ralph thinks that he can intimidate SLU and T&T into coughing up funds. He thinks that he no longer needs LI as he now has a jet airport (currently 3 flights weekly, one each offered by AC, BW, and AA). If LI collapses his own people are going to protest outside of his office when they can no longer fly to POS and expect all of their bags to fly with them. So he will do no such thing.

Even his MRG demand doesn't show careful thought. Some routes are profitable and some aren't. I would think that a demand for MRG would be related to this and not the numbers of flights that an island gets. Furthermore in the case of SKB maybe a 1/3 of the passengers might be in-transit traveling to/from EIS or SXM, so why should SKB pay for that.

LI needs to develop a model that focuses on the more profitable routes, and either downsize/eliminate those less profitable, or demand an MRG which offsets the losses that continued operation will entail. If an island doesn't value such route they will not pay for it and then LI can eliminate it or reduce capacity. The issue is that I don't think that LI is able to do this, so behaves like a utility, demanding MRGs based on # of flights into an island.

Ralph couldn’t possibly be foolish enough to believe that SVD no longer needs LI. The international airport so far has been a dud with only a handful of flights that fit that purpose as you so rightly pointed out and all of which I’m sure they are paying a pretty penny for.

Re LI, I don’t see them closing down but they are at the precipice. Starting with an expensive refleeting exercise which got them a bunch of planes arguably too big for their network. Then an already declining northern Caribbean market which was further decimated by major hurricanes. Add to this, the move of Ross University from Dominica to Barbados (which doesn’t need LI to get students, faculty, and family to/from the US). And the aforementioned opening of the international airport in SVD and the end of the LI monopoly there and it’s been a perfect storm for LI the last few years. Good luck with them asking for MRGs. I don’t foresee any other further uptake on that regardless of how much Ralph spreads the doom and gloom.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:54 pm

https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestn ... ofile=1228

Some good news it seems that Caribbean Airlines achieves unaudited operation profit for 2018. the article says "CAL said the unaudited accounts for the fiscal year ending December 2018 show Earnings Before Interest and Taxes (EBIT) of positive TT$111 million (One TT dollar =US$0.16 cents) comprising of TT$158 million on international and other operations, and negative TT$47 million on the domestic air bridge."
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:04 pm

trini81 wrote:
https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Caribbean_Airlines_achieves_unaudited_operation_profit_for_2018?profile=1228

Some good news it seems that Caribbean Airlines achieves unaudited operation profit for 2018. the article says "CAL said the unaudited accounts for the fiscal year ending December 2018 show Earnings Before Interest and Taxes (EBIT) of positive TT$111 million (One TT dollar =US$0.16 cents) comprising of TT$158 million on international and other operations, and negative TT$47 million on the domestic air bridge."

Glad to see things turning around for BW. They've cut some fat in Jamaica in the past year or so. It's a shame they aren't allowed to make changes to the domestic airbridge. I suspect things will get tougher for them in the next year or two with AA starting MIA-GEO service and soon AA & B6 on JFK-GEO. Also, they'll have to deal with both B6 and UA expanding their NYC-POS offerings and AA's expansion on MIA-POS. And there's also the delay of their refleeting plans. It will be an interesting next few years for the airline.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:17 pm

LI needed to re-fleet as its Dash 8s were ageing and subject to extreme tech breakdowns which created havoc with their schedules. Having said that they should have focused on the ATR 46 with its 48 seats as the 68 seater is too big.

LI will be a smaller airline because its owners and other Caribbean gov'ts insist on massive travel taxes which has made intra Caribbean travel difficult. Its easy to see the impact on fares when one looks at the severe drop in intra regional travel. Using ANU as an example arrivals from the rest of the Caribbean dropped from 59k in 2006 to 32k last year.

Maybe LI and Inter Caribbean (JY) need to become friends with the latter taking over some of LI's northern routes, leaving them with just SKB and SXM. They can then cut out at least 2 ATR 76 planes, maybe selling them to BW if the latter moves ahead with its KIN turbo hub,

I think that 2020 will be a very difficult year for BW. While it seems to have managed the competition on its POS routes, and reduced its foot print on its Jamaica routes in reality of the fact that its a mere shadow of JM, GEO is now a major producer. That market is a dream combining high yields and high loads, especially on its JFK GEO. As of now both AA and B6 have announced plans for this route which is a 2 airline route.

To compete BW will have to maintain a daily (or almost daily) service on this route. Whereas AA and B6 will be able to turn around their plane and crews at GEO BW will have to continue the tag on to POS, driving up its operating costs. What will be obvious is that there will be a sharp drop in fares. This will definitely stimulate more travel but whether the loss in yield will offset maybe a minimal loss of loads will yet to be seen. I expect the highest yielding passengers to gravitate to AA with its strong FF program, especially if it moves ahead with its JFK GEO route.

The big question on MIA GEO will be what happens to PY.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:15 pm

A Danish Air Transport ATR 72-500 (SE-MDA) is being wet-leased for additional airlift on the T&T airbridge till September.
· longer · larger · farther · faster · higher · quieter · smoother ·
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 06, 2019 1:49 am

AA GEO-JFK DEC 0>0.5[0] JAN 0>1.0[0] FEB 0>1.0[0]

Per the OAG thread, AA has officially added JFK-GEO.
 
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Mon May 06, 2019 12:23 pm

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -dec-2019/

American Airlines in winter 2019/20 season plans to add new nonstop service to Guyana, as the airline plans New York JFK – Georgetown service. Subject to Government Approval, Boeing 737-800 aircraft will operate this route from New York JFK from 18DEC19.

AA2896 JFK1800 – 0049+1GEO 738 D
AA2897 GEO0148 – 0659JFK 738 D
 
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Mon May 06, 2019 2:41 pm

AA's JFK-GEO flights differ from BW's in that the BW flights leave at 0025, arriving 0705, and the BW flights continue to POS (and thus have less capacity on JFK-GEO than AA's).

Also, what happened to B6's JFK-GEO? I was rather expecting something to be announced.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 06, 2019 3:02 pm

gunnerman wrote:
AA's JFK-GEO flights differ from BW's in that the BW flights leave at 0025, arriving 0705, and the BW flights continue to POS (and thus have less capacity on JFK-GEO than AA's).

Also, what happened to B6's JFK-GEO? I was rather expecting something to be announced.

B6 announced that they plan to start service in 2020. No exact date yet.
 
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Tue May 07, 2019 9:47 pm

gunnerman wrote:
AA's JFK-GEO flights differ from BW's in that the BW flights leave at 0025, arriving 0705, and the BW flights continue to POS (and thus have less capacity on JFK-GEO than AA's).

Also, what happened to B6's JFK-GEO? I was rather expecting something to be announced.



The BW tag on is for route rights purposes as they were blocked from running a GEO JFK GEO route. Most of the pax on that flight are on the JFK GEO.

Many people don't like to arrive in GEO at night so BW will keep that segment. They also have a more generous baggage allowance.

I think that much of the premium end will move to AA as they have a better FF product and a strong MIA hub allowing for a full range of connections.
 
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Sat May 18, 2019 6:36 pm

The Guyana government has rejected an application by Eastern Airlines to begin scheduled flights between JFK and GEO due to problems encountered in its former guise as Dynamic International Airways.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/78177-easterns-dynamic-past-returns-to-haunt-it-in-guyana

The situation has changed markedly since the days of Dynamic because despite the demise of Fly Jamaica airlift will improve as AA is set to operate the route with a daily flight from 18 December 2019.

Recent additional airlift to GEO includes AA's daily flight from MIA and CM going from five weekly to daily from PTY.
 
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Sun May 19, 2019 1:37 pm

gunnerman wrote:
The Guyana government has rejected an application by Eastern Airlines to begin scheduled flights between JFK and GEO due to problems encountered in its former guise as Dynamic International Airways.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/78177-easterns-dynamic-past-returns-to-haunt-it-in-guyana

The situation has changed markedly since the days of Dynamic because despite the demise of Fly Jamaica airlift will improve as AA is set to operate the route with a daily flight from 18 December 2019.

Recent additional airlift to GEO includes AA's daily flight from MIA and CM going from five weekly to daily from PTY.
Has CM gotten any piece of the GEO/JFK traffic? Really?
I'm not on CM's payroll.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 19, 2019 2:18 pm

Sky High is doing charters to Medellin from Santo Domingo, and charters SJU-PUJ starting next week for summer season.

additional ERJS are coming very soon to SDQ

Century is increasing JBQ-HAV to 4 weekly starting Jun 25, more CRJs likley to coming for Winter season
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 23, 2019 3:28 am

I notice SY has removed SKB from its destinations so I assume neither MSP or DFW is coming back. They hit it out of the park with MSP BZE it would seem though. I noticed they upgraded it from a 700 to an 800 very quickly last year
 
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Thu May 23, 2019 4:11 pm

I had the belief that MSP SKB was because they didn't think that SXM was ready. AA also pushed them off DFW SKB so that wouldn't have made them happy. SKB is apparently talking to UA about an IAH and WN about BWI SKB. MRGs can only go so far.
 
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Thu May 23, 2019 5:00 pm

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I had the belief that MSP SKB was because they didn't think that SXM was ready. AA also pushed them off DFW SKB so that wouldn't have made them happy. SKB is apparently talking to UA about an IAH and WN about BWI SKB. MRGs can only go so far.


All the islands talk to a lot of people. IMHO, it will be a long long time before you see WN at SKB.
 
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Thu May 23, 2019 5:38 pm

LightChop2Chop wrote:
caribny wrote:
I had the belief that MSP SKB was because they didn't think that SXM was ready. AA also pushed them off DFW SKB so that wouldn't have made them happy. SKB is apparently talking to UA about an IAH and WN about BWI SKB. MRGs can only go so far.


All the islands talk to a lot of people. IMHO, it will be a long long time before you see WN at SKB.


Per this article, it seems as if it's already a done deal.

https://www.caribjournal.com/2019/05/21 ... s-booming/

“This is a clear indication that our strategy is succeeding,” said St Kitts Tourism Minister Lindsey Grant, who said the destination has been pushing to grow airlift from “key gateways” in the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom and the Caribbean region.

The airlift increase is continuing this year, with new Saturday peak-season service on United from Houston, along with weekly flights on Southwest Airlines from Baltimore-Washington.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 23, 2019 5:41 pm

Interesting article on St Lucia wanting to quit from the Eastern Caribbean regional civil aviation regional authority....

http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/ne ... -regulator

To note... it confirms the rumours of flights from St Lucia to Jamaica....
On another note CAL is expected to launch flights from POS to CUR soon let's see how this goes.....
 
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Thu May 23, 2019 10:42 pm

trini81 wrote:
Interesting article on St Lucia wanting to quit from the Eastern Caribbean regional civil aviation regional authority....

http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/ne ... -regulator

To note... it confirms the rumours of flights from St Lucia to Jamaica....
On another note CAL is expected to launch flights from POS to CUR soon let's see how this goes.....



POS CUR KIN is another route with potential as since Insel disappeared there is no proper service. A new outfit is promising to start service but I suspect that Jamaicans might prefer BW given the horrors that Insel put them thru when it suddenly cut service.
 
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Thu May 23, 2019 10:45 pm

LightChop2Chop wrote:
caribny wrote:
I had the belief that MSP SKB was because they didn't think that SXM was ready. AA also pushed them off DFW SKB so that wouldn't have made them happy. SKB is apparently talking to UA about an IAH and WN about BWI SKB. MRGs can only go so far.


All the islands talk to a lot of people. IMHO, it will be a long long time before you see WN at SKB.


SKB won an award from the Airline Routes group last year. Apparently the airlines like them (probably easier with MRGs and other supports). SKB gets more service than one would expect from such a small market. This summer they will be the only Non US Eastern Caribbean island with flights from DFW, though AA plans to add UVF later on.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 24, 2019 12:02 am

caribny wrote:
LightChop2Chop wrote:
caribny wrote:
I had the belief that MSP SKB was because they didn't think that SXM was ready. AA also pushed them off DFW SKB so that wouldn't have made them happy. SKB is apparently talking to UA about an IAH and WN about BWI SKB. MRGs can only go so far.


All the islands talk to a lot of people. IMHO, it will be a long long time before you see WN at SKB.


SKB won an award from the Airline Routes group last year. Apparently the airlines like them (probably easier with MRGs and other supports). SKB gets more service than one would expect from such a small market. This summer they will be the only Non US Eastern Caribbean island with flights from DFW, though AA plans to add UVF later on.

Is AA adding DFW-UVF as well? I saw ORD-UVF.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 24, 2019 12:12 am

Brickell305 wrote:
caribny wrote:
LightChop2Chop wrote:

All the islands talk to a lot of people. IMHO, it will be a long long time before you see WN at SKB.


SKB won an award from the Airline Routes group last year. Apparently the airlines like them (probably easier with MRGs and other supports). SKB gets more service than one would expect from such a small market. This summer they will be the only Non US Eastern Caribbean island with flights from DFW, though AA plans to add UVF later on.

Is AA adding DFW-UVF as well? I saw ORD-UVF.


I'm curious as well, would like to see a source. There may be some conflict with other routes in terms of traffic flow, a one-stop in MIA instead would be sufficient.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat May 25, 2019 7:15 pm

Not seeing DFW UVF now but I thought I saw it as an add on to the AA ORD UVF service. Maybe someone was mistaken.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 26, 2019 12:12 am

A being 747 the largest aircraft to land at the Argyle International Airport since its opening in 2017 arrived at about 2 pm on Friday.

The aircraft with the logo of One Caribbean a locally owned airline flew from Texas, USA some 6 hours away.

According to sources, the new aircraft is an investment by local investors which was talked about by Prime Minister Gonsalves in 2018.

https://news784.com/local-news/747-airc ... t-vincnet/
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 26, 2019 12:43 am

747-400 service SVD DXB (according to the link). Let’s see how quick they burn through $100mil.

With all due respect to the good people of SVD. Somebody is smoking something!
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 26, 2019 4:43 pm

trini81 wrote:
Interesting article on St Lucia wanting to quit from the Eastern Caribbean regional civil aviation regional authority....

http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/ne ... -regulator

To note... it confirms the rumours of flights from St Lucia to Jamaica....
On another note CAL is expected to launch flights from POS to CUR soon let's see how this goes.....


Do we have a source or any official confirmation on this? CUR would be a good add. Perhaps too AUA.

I noticed in another thread, CAL has officially applied to the JCAA for rights to serve KIN-HAV and KIN-SDQ with the 738 each twice per week from July 1 2019. I'm guessing this is still subject to regulatory approval since one month out one would expect the flights to be bookable.

CUR and SDQ (out of KIN) would be good ads I believe though I think that ex-Jamaica the 738 is a bit much.

Cheers,
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 27, 2019 4:55 pm

aa1818 wrote:


I noticed in another thread, CAL has officially applied to the JCAA for rights to serve KIN-HAV and KIN-SDQ with the 738 each twice per week from July 1 2019. I'm guessing this is still subject to regulatory approval since one month out one would expect the flights to be bookable.

CUR and SDQ (out of KIN) would be good ads I believe though I think that ex-Jamaica the 738 is a bit much.

Cheers,
AA1818



CUR and SDQ can be incorporated into the POS KIN route. There is KIN CUR VFR traffic.

I think that they are applying for KIN GCM, not KIN SDQ. I bet GCM is dragging their feet as that route has been very good for KX.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 10:04 am

How is the new flight between Kingston and Bridgetown doing?

Also surprisingly little coverage of this situation, quite unfortunate for those originating at Piarco:
https://www.caribbean-airlines.com/#/ca ... leases/184
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 3:46 pm

NAX737MAX wrote:
How is the new flight between Kingston and Bridgetown doing?

Also surprisingly little coverage of this situation, quite unfortunate for those originating at Piarco:
https://www.caribbean-airlines.com/#/ca ... leases/184



I saw a video of someone travelling POS LGW via UVF and an announcement was made about identifying carryon items. Didn't say rescreening. So apparently the UK also requires this. Not sure if people are boarding in POS, leaving the plane and then someone else picks it up at the stop over.

Not sure what that is all about as most POS flights to North America are nonstop. This will not have tremendous impact as few boarding in POS use the flight via GEO. The other two flights operate weekly.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 7:35 pm

https://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/2019/0 ... 0pyS6ChsFY

Although DL re-entering the GEO market would not surprise me (if only to keep B6 in check) the veracity of this article is suspect when they talk about DL wanting to fly from (among others) IAH. Now I could see UA doing a 4X IAH GEO for oil traffic.
 
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Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 29, 2019 12:49 am

LightChop2Chop wrote:
https://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/2019/05/27/delta-airlines-plans-a-return-to-guyana/?fbclid=IwAR2EkVAfsp_VYaShtJyJE1ku85bXnj45gthr6dIrNI3rKnqqw0pyS6ChsFY

Although DL re-entering the GEO market would not surprise me (if only to keep B6 in check) the veracity of this article is suspect when they talk about DL wanting to fly from (among others) IAH. Now I could see UA doing a 4X IAH GEO for oil traffic.



This source isnt reliable. People also exaggerate the level of increased business traffic into GY.

In 2018 visitor arrivals from the USA increased by 8% and the Caribbean by 28%. The big news in visitor arrivals is out of Cuba, given that the US Embassy in GY processes Cuban visa applications. This in addition to Cuban shoppers traveling to GY.

So I dont know where there is room for DL and B6 in addition to AA, even if BW and PY are driven off the market.

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