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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:41 am

Air Tanzania is planning to start a JRO-DAR-LGW route later this year.

https://www.logupdateafrica.com/air-tan ... r-aviation
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:16 am

HaulSudson wrote:
It seems uganda airlines is promoting regional flights from 28 august onwards.
Mogadishu is one of the destinations.


MGQ represents a key destiniation, along with JUB for Uganda Airlines - you would be surprised to see how many (honest) Somalians, plus South Sudaneses, running businesses in Kampala are strolling in the city - A specific area welcomes most of them -

Anyway the first flight for the new Airlines will be on the traditional EBB-NBO route.
How surprising.... :lol:
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:19 am

mr02 wrote:
Air Tanzania is planning to start a JRO-DAR-LGW route later this year.

https://www.logupdateafrica.com/air-tan ... r-aviation


Looks very nice - thanks a lot mr02, do you know more about it?
Frequencies, exact date of inaugural, from old or new DAR terminal or more?
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:35 am

Uganda Airlines has just published their launch fares, valid for initially two months on the routes named so far for operation.
These include Nairobi, Mogadishu, Dar es Salaam, Bujumbura, Mombasa and Kilimanjaro.
The fares, inclusive of all taxes and fees, will be valid for travel in economy class and clearly aim to shift market share on these routes to the newest airline in the East African skies.

Bookings can be made on line, through travel agents or directly at the airline’s offices in these locations:

Nairobi Return USD 278

Juba Return USD 225

Mogadishu Return USD 590

Dar Return USD 286

Bujumbura Return USD 292

Mombasa Return USD 325

Kilimanjaro Return USD 311

All inclusive of taxes


Payment can be made in both US Dollars or the equivalent at the prevailing exchange rate in Uganda Shillings.
What do you think guys?

https://atcnews.org/2019/08/02/ugandaai ... nch-fares/

I'm 250% sure that a Bujumbura - Entebbe trip vv, done at least twice this year and 4 times every year since 2016 cost much less than usd292, being with RwandAir or Kenya Airways! Hope Uganda Airlines will provide a morning flight to BJM...
JRO and JUB look fine!
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:49 pm

eastafspot wrote:
HaulSudson wrote:
It seems uganda airlines is promoting regional flights from 28 august onwards.
Mogadishu is one of the destinations.


MGQ represents a key destiniation, along with JUB for Uganda Airlines - you would be surprised to see how many (honest) Somalians, plus South Sudaneses, running businesses in Kampala are strolling in the city - A specific area welcomes most of them -

Anyway the first flight for the new Airlines will be on the traditional EBB-NBO route.
How surprising.... :lol:


I know that. And the govt could fill a lot of seats with soldiers (they are paying the tab anyways).

But i also believe these brandnew sleek white birds with a crane tail might be a prime target for those who are not so keen on the UG presence in Somalia.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:51 pm

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Schedules to JNB show that the mid afternoon flight will only operate 4x per week until mid September. It could be a number of things including aircraft shortage or weak demand.


Huge crew shortages on the 737 fleet. A lot of expats did not renew contracts and they misjudged recruitment requirements after the Max issues. Costly error.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:53 am

eastafspot wrote:
mr02 wrote:
Air Tanzania is planning to start a JRO-DAR-LGW route later this year.

https://www.logupdateafrica.com/air-tan ... r-aviation


Looks very nice - thanks a lot mr02, do you know more about it?
Frequencies, exact date of inaugural, from old or new DAR terminal or more?

Still on discussion..but most likely early JAN 2020 ..I Think ATC will also receive new 787...and also Guangzhou routes will start...
London more likely 3* a week via JRO
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:05 am

Looks like ET gets many passengers to KIA(JRO) during weekends..
Weekdays it operates A350 via Znz
Weekends Znz gets B737-800
While JRO A350
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:10 am

B747-437B wrote:
berari wrote:
Schedules to JNB show that the mid afternoon flight will only operate 4x per week until mid September. It could be a number of things including aircraft shortage or weak demand.


Huge crew shortages on the 737 fleet. A lot of expats did not renew contracts and they misjudged recruitment requirements after the Max issues. Costly error.


Is there a specific reason as to why many expat pilots didn't renew ? Also, what was misjudged ?
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:17 pm

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Is there a specific reason as to why many expat pilots didn't renew ? Also, what was misjudged ?


I don't know the specifics of why people wouldn't renew, but I know from various colleagues who have worked there that the expats on the 737 fleet are worked to the absolute maximum. They had an excess of 737 drivers after the Max groundings, so my guess is that they didn't recruit as extensively as usual for that fleet and it wound up causing a shortage.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:18 am

Ethiopian to launch new service to Houston via Lome.

https://simpleflying.com/ethiopian-airl ... ston-lome/
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:28 pm

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Ethiopian to launch new service to Houston via Lome.

https://simpleflying.com/ethiopian-airl ... ston-lome/


These flight timings in LFW are suicidal – it doesn’t feed any of the ASKY banks in Lome and the Houston-Lome O&D is approximately negative three pax per week. If they want to make the flight work to this hub. It has to run parallel to the Newark flight which has excellent feed. That means horrendous aircraft utility as the tradeoff (think 17 hours overnight in Houston), which ET simply can’t afford right now.

The flight will need to survive on the back of India and East Africa connections from the afternoon bank in Addis, which is iffy at best. Alternatively, they can un-bank the Lome hub which they just spent 3 months rebanking after the LAX disaster. They are gambling on an untested concept – viz. the flight being a longhaul feeder to the experimental afternoon bank in Addis and effectively abandoning a strong West African feed in Lome. They may experiment again with a Dash 8 feed from Lagos or Accra in the middle of the night (tried and failed before), but other than that they can’t do much other than rely on the HF feed from Abidjan without completely changing up that hub. The two-way Addis feed meanwhile will be restricted to Hargeisa, Mombasa, Asmara, Entebbe, Djibouti and Nairobi. You can’t build this route based on those markets.

This WILL fail in its current avatar. No if or but about it. ET is losing its schedule discipline in the quest for higher utility and that is the exact opposite of the principles that has made them so successful over the last decade.

Lunacy – the art of doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Good luck to them.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:41 pm

Why did they cancel the LAX route? Last time I saw they were adding additional frequencies.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:24 am

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Why did they cancel the LAX route? Last time I saw they were adding additional frequencies.


LAX via DUB had woeful utility on the aircraft which they had to improve (aircraft used to sit 14 hours in LAX from 0930 to 2330).

LAX via LFW lasted all of 2 months before the abysmal loads let to the scrapping of the entire route. The issue, much like the one I identified above with the Houston schedule, was that it ran off different banks in Addis and had no banked feed in Lome.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:51 pm

ET should abandon its plans for IAH. The route will fail miserably, just like LAX-LFW-ADD
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:07 pm

Apparently Ethiopian has started offering WIFI on its flights. One hearsay instance on an A350.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:57 am

One of Air Tanzania's brand new A220s has been impounded in Johannesburg for non-payment of a $4.1m debt

https://atcnews.org/2019/08/24/air-tanz ... annesburg/
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:50 am

B747-437B wrote:
One of Air Tanzania's brand new A220s has been impounded in Johannesburg for non-payment of a $4.1m debt

https://atcnews.org/2019/08/24/air-tanz ... annesburg/


That's unfortunate but I am more surprised that they had such a large outstanding debt. Any updates regarding this? I am sure the government will step in to help them out?
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:10 pm

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 4451405824

Ethiopian's Houston flight gone again.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:22 am

Not sure if already posted, but Uganda Airlines (UR) posted its routes on which it will resume service on the CRJ9 after 18 years of suspension. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -aug-2019/

As for the A330neo planes, I figure that Gatwick will be the major destination on them...but might the other one be somewhere in China, like CAN?
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:28 pm

:arrow: The South Sudanese Parliament (Juba) has given its consent to the proposed establishment of a new national carrier - "South Sudan Airways".

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... al-carrier


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aemoreira1981 wrote:
Not sure if already posted, but Uganda Airlines (UR) posted its routes on which it will resume service on the CRJ9 after 18 years of suspension. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -aug-2019/


Photos and videos of inaugural flight (to officials only) here:
https://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/ ... den-flight

The inaugural flight of Uganda Airlines cost the company at least Shs 120 million (USD 32 500). A handwritten boarding pass drew criticism on social media about the preparedness of the company to handle commercial flights.

Tomorrow (well today actually) first commercial to NBO at 6 am :smile:

Ishrion wrote:
https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status/1165338164451405824

Ethiopian's Houston flight gone again.

Weird, do you know why?
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:26 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
Not sure if already posted, but Uganda Airlines (UR) posted its routes on which it will resume service on the CRJ9 after 18 years of suspension. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -aug-2019/

As for the A330neo planes, I figure that Gatwick will be the major destination on them...but might the other one be somewhere in China, like CAN?


Not the best start for Uganda Airlines, with only 8 pax onboard this morning Entebbe - Nairobi first flight!

https://twitter.com/Kwezi_Tabaro/status ... wsrc%5Etfw

Also it looks like for the moment, one can't book online a connecting flight through their hub - EBB. :cry:
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:43 pm

Ishrion wrote:
https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status/1165338164451405824

Ethiopian's Houston flight gone again.

Weird, do you know why?[/quote]

For Houston to work ET needs a feed at LFW that connects on both inbound and outbound. I doubt that they will be ready for that with ASKY. In terms of priorities, I don't see IAH as being one of them for it will be ill timed on multiple fronts. I do see however how ET wants to get into that market given UA's pullout from LOS before there's more competition in the future.

It's worth noting that ET adds and removes flights from its schedules prior to official announcements being made, sometimes these are added with no seats available to sell.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:35 pm

:arrow: Swissport Tanzania profits drop by 50%:

Swissport Tanzania, the main ground and cargo handling company for airports in the country has reported a 50 per cent drop in profits for the first six months of this year, blamed on the exit of its key client FastJet Tanzania, a low-cost carrier as well as stiff competition from the national carrier's new ground handling firm.

https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/busine ... PzYYa38DFg


:arrow: RwandAir: Kigali - Dubai pax traffic route up to 20%:

Rwandair carried nearly 24,000 passengers during the first seven months of 2019, up 20% year-on-year. Cargo traffic meanwhile, was between 200 and 280 tons from January to July (+38%).

https://newsaero.info/airlines/2112
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:44 pm

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It's worth noting that ET adds and removes flights from its schedules prior to official announcements being made, sometimes these are added with no seats available to sell.

How long in advance does the average pax get informed about this? Is it legal according to some EU regulations?
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:50 pm

Ethiopian’s new Houston service is back on again. As of December. It’ll match a similar pattern as the Newark flights via Lomé. The aircraft will sit on the ground at Houston for a good 20 hours however during its turnaround. While aircraft utilization can be debated, it is the best schedule it can offer given its feed options at Lomé.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:38 pm

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Ethiopian’s new Houston service is back on again. As of December. It’ll match a similar pattern as the Newark flights via Lomé. The aircraft will sit on the ground at Houston for a good 20 hours however during its turnaround. While aircraft utilization can be debated, it is the best schedule it can offer given its feed options at Lomé.


Thanks for the update as you're often the first, if not the first all the time, to provide excellent info about ET!
20h must be the longest layover allowed to be honest!!
Are the feeds from Lome (LFW) depend only from the 10 year old regional Asky airline?
I really thought the recent partnership with AWA would also help ET in this direction for West African travellers...
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:34 am

eastafspot wrote:
berari wrote:
Ethiopian’s new Houston service is back on again. As of December. It’ll match a similar pattern as the Newark flights via Lomé. The aircraft will sit on the ground at Houston for a good 20 hours however during its turnaround. While aircraft utilization can be debated, it is the best schedule it can offer given its feed options at Lomé.


Thanks for the update as you're often the first, if not the first all the time, to provide excellent info about ET!
20h must be the longest layover allowed to be honest!!
Are the feeds from Lome (LFW) depend only from the 10 year old regional Asky airline?
I really thought the recent partnership with AWA would also help ET in this direction for West African travellers...


AWA is not feeding this flight nor is it serving LFW from what I know. The "partnership" you mention is merely an interline agreement from the announcement I have re-read. ET is further leveraging its hub at LFW to start this new service, which will complement its 4x per week service to Newark. It is worth noting that ET is also fed by Air Cote d'Ivoire at Abidjan for its 3x per week service to New York JFK.

ET will solely be dependent on ASKY for feed at Lome, with 8 of the latter's aircraft coming in to Lome from Accra, Cotonou, Lagos, Dakar, Abidjan, Bamako, Abuja and Douala and wherever else they originated from prior to getting to these cities that same morning, namely, in no particular order, Johannesburg, Libreville, Niamey, N'Djamena, Bangui, Conakry, Banjul, Freetown, and Bissau. This is in addition to the Houston flight itself originating from Addis Ababa.

The ASKY flights I mention above are actually based on the schedule for today (Friday,) which, for what it's worth, I find very impressive. That is 18 cities from which flights to Houston and the existing service to Newark are fed. ASKY runs a single bank at LFW, with late morning arrivals and early afternoon departures (which are reminiscent of ET's hub at ADD some 20+ years ago!)

I imagine that ET deems the 20 hour ground time for the aircraft worthwhile for this service to begin. Not all of ET's aircraft are up in the air at all times anyway, so why not have one remain overnight at IAH? This helps it address the impossible, which is having no feed at other times at LFW and having the entire ADD-LFW-IAH-LFW-ADD service meeting its banks at LFW and ADD. Personally I think this is the right compromise, for previous attempted/posted schedules for IAH were bound to fail in terms of connectivity.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:37 am

Kenya Airways is suspending Libreville, Gabon and Cotonou, Benin as of October.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 ... 405218.htm
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:55 am

Any indication if/when Air Tanzania will resume JNB service...sure they would want to capture some of the ZNZ bound market for the summer.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:59 am

berari wrote:
Kenya Airways is suspending Libreville, Gabon and Cotonou, Benin as of October.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 ... 405218.htm


KQ resumed LBV recently, I think just after the JFK route. What went wrong here?
RwandAir - having a hub in COO and ET will be happy about this news :lol:


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:arrow: Jambojet to start flying to Kigali, Rwanda:
https://www.jambojet.com/en-ug/about-ja ... li-rwanda/

Probably like Bujumbura, the evening nonstop flight will get the JamboJet metal, while the morning triangular NBO-KGL-BJM-NBO will remain on KQ E90.


:arrow: Not sure if it was announced before, ET to start ATH from Dec 13th - its 17th European destination.
ET760/1 will get a 787 and will stay all day in ATH (3:45-22:20).

https://newsaero.info/airlines/ethiopia ... ?true=2177
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:46 pm

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berari wrote:
Kenya Airways is suspending Libreville, Gabon and Cotonou, Benin as of October.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 ... 405218.htm


KQ resumed LBV recently, I think just after the JFK route. What went wrong here?
RwandAir - having a hub in COO and ET will be happy about this news :lol:


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:arrow: Jambojet to start flying to Kigali, Rwanda:
https://www.jambojet.com/en-ug/about-ja ... li-rwanda/

Probably like Bujumbura, the evening nonstop flight will get the JamboJet metal, while the morning triangular NBO-KGL-BJM-NBO will remain on KQ E90.


:arrow: Not sure if it was announced before, ET to start ATH from Dec 13th - its 17th European destination.
ET760/1 will get a 787 and will stay all day in ATH (3:45-22:20).

https://newsaero.info/airlines/ethiopia ... ?true=2177


The Ethiopian flight to Athens continues on to Moscow, doesn't stay in ATH. Recall that Moscow was to start via Istanbul, a few things happened there including not being able to get slots at IST. Eventually Moscow went nonstop, from B788 to B738, IST went 6x per week with quick turnarounds (impressive!) of a mix of daytime/night time flights. Moscow continues on with B738 but as you can imagine it's a long flight, likely thin and was bound to be coupled with another city. It's nice to see ET at ATH again, where it served it decades ago on ADD-KRT-CAI-ATH routings.

Regarding RwandAir at COO, flying to it 3x per week with a stop in Cameroon is hardly a hub, yet. They have been talking about it for a while. I do believe that they will want a hub or a springboard to get to the US, an ambition they have. ET will be happy about this news, it'll help open up the airspace and help other countries see the benefits of opening up.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:18 am

Alitalia and Ethiopian Airlines appear to be codesharing on flights between Rome and Milan and Addis Ababa. AZ code on ET flight.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:44 pm

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... y-end-2019

The Kenyan government has "put in place a steering committee to spearhead the process of nationalising Kenya Airways by the end of the year," the airline's CEO Sebastian Mikosz has told journalists in Nairobi.


Looks like Sebastian Mikozs really gonna leave a bad legacy behind him before
his eminent departure from KQ.
Bad future for Kenyan aviation indeed.
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:46 pm

berari wrote:
Regarding RwandAir at COO, flying to it 3x per week with a stop in Cameroon is hardly a hub, yet. They have been talking about it for a while. I do believe that they will want a hub or a springboard to get to the US, an ambition they have. ET will be happy about this news, it'll help open up the airspace and help other countries see the benefits of opening up.

Apparently, there is a RwandAir (WB) B738 stationned here permanently.
To run the West African routes from COO smoothly. Or in case of issues or UN emergencies!
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:14 am

afriwing wrote:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/81880-kenya-airways-nationalisation-process-to-start-by-end-2019

The Kenyan government has "put in place a steering committee to spearhead the process of nationalising Kenya Airways by the end of the year," the airline's CEO Sebastian Mikosz has told journalists in Nairobi.


Looks like Sebastian Mikozs really gonna leave a bad legacy behind him before
his eminent departure from KQ.
Bad future for Kenyan aviation indeed.


When is he supposed to leave exactly?

It depends how do you see his legacy...

Despite hating low cost carriers, the Jambojet option can be a successful idea on all the East African destinations plus South Africa for night time flights. If frequencies are increased, to offer better prices or connecting times to travellers. KQ should focus on long haul routes only ( though I'm nowhere near being a specialist nor an expert ;) )


Also the route to JFK was a great idea, though not with the right frequencies at start. they should have tested the marked before, and not after!

Finally, JKIA is in dire need of a 2nd runway asap. That's a fact!
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:54 am

eastafspot wrote:
berari wrote:
Regarding RwandAir at COO, flying to it 3x per week with a stop in Cameroon is hardly a hub, yet. They have been talking about it for a while. I do believe that they will want a hub or a springboard to get to the US, an ambition they have. ET will be happy about this news, it'll help open up the airspace and help other countries see the benefits of opening up.

Apparently, there is a RwandAir (WB) B738 stationned here permanently.
To run the West African routes from COO smoothly. Or in case of issues or UN emergencies!


Learn something new every day. Apparently they have a base at COO that flies to ABJ/DSS and LBV, but does not meet or extend from the Kigali-originating flight.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:59 am

berari wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
berari wrote:
Regarding RwandAir at COO, flying to it 3x per week with a stop in Cameroon is hardly a hub, yet. They have been talking about it for a while. I do believe that they will want a hub or a springboard to get to the US, an ambition they have. ET will be happy about this news, it'll help open up the airspace and help other countries see the benefits of opening up.

Apparently, there is a RwandAir (WB) B738 stationned here permanently.
To run the West African routes from COO smoothly. Or in case of issues or UN emergencies!


Learn something new every day. Apparently they have a base at COO that flies to ABJ/DSS and LBV, but does not meet or extend from the Kigali-originating flight.


What is the point of this then?
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:41 am

AF022 wrote:
berari wrote:
Learn something new every day. Apparently they have a base at COO that flies to ABJ/DSS and LBV, but does not meet or extend from the Kigali-originating flight.


What is the point of this then?


Maybe serving as Benin's de facto national airline?
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:14 am

How is Uganda Airlines doing so far?
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:43 am

berari wrote:
AF022 wrote:
berari wrote:
Learn something new every day. Apparently they have a base at COO that flies to ABJ/DSS and LBV, but does not meet or extend from the Kigali-originating flight.


What is the point of this then?


Maybe serving as Benin's de facto national airline?


I think WB has nonstop service from COO to LBV, DLA and ABJ. There are other flights in these same markets. If Benin needed a national carrier it would probably to serve markets with no service, or not enough service, not these markets. COO is well served from all directions, they probably just need some domestic service.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:09 pm

AF022 wrote:
I think WB has nonstop service from COO to LBV, DLA and ABJ. There are other flights in these same markets. If Benin needed a national carrier it would probably to serve markets with no service, or not enough service, not these markets. COO is well served from all directions, they probably just need some domestic service.


It's not just about need. WB has access to cheap capital that Benin likely doesn't have.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:47 pm

evanb wrote:
AF022 wrote:
I think WB has nonstop service from COO to LBV, DLA and ABJ. There are other flights in these same markets. If Benin needed a national carrier it would probably to serve markets with no service, or not enough service, not these markets. COO is well served from all directions, they probably just need some domestic service.


It's not just about need. WB has access to cheap capital that Benin likely doesn't have.


That COO based aircraft does
- COO-LBV-DLA on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and overnights
- COO-ABJ-DSS on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and overnights
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:18 am

Ethiopian Airlines has applied to Transport Canada to increase its current 5x per week service to daily.

Also, looking to serve Montreal.

It's worth noting that Ethiopian is increasing capacity in the coming weeks by deploying the Airbus A350 on the Toronto route.

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/airli ... n-airlines
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:08 pm

Some interesting Q1 2019 stats from AFRAA:

- NBO-MBA is Africa's 7th busiest domestic route,
- NBO leading africa's freight traffic, ADD 4th,
- ADD is Africa's 6th cheapest airport (first in the region),
- JIB is the most expensive and EBB ranks 8th in Africa,
- ADD is the 3rd most connected airport, while NBO is 5th,

- Percentage of direct connections to other African regions:
1: Southern Africa 20%
2: Central Africa 15%
3: Northern Africa 12%
4: Western Africa 10%

And finally, busiest regional routes ( very surprised that KGL-EBB makes up to the top 10; there must be a glitch somehow! :eyebrow: )

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Source:
https://www.afraa.org/wp-content/upload ... _Final.pdf
Fly with Air Burundi, Air Tanzania, Golden Wings Aviation, Kenya Airways, RwandAir and Uganda Airlines...Jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki !
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:48 am

That graph is great but mostly because it goes to show how much work still has to be done in Africa. If you look at the number one, it has around 190.000 passengers which in reality is ok but nothing spectacular. Hopefully the economy of these countries keeps on improving so that air travel can grow as well.

By the way, which airlines and how many frequencies are there between Harare and Johannesburg?
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:51 am

JNB-HRE has 5 airlines operating:

SAA operates 3 x daily with mix A319/A320...now and then upgauge to A330/A340
BA/Comair a daily service with 737-800
Airlink (also SA code) 12 x weekly service with mix ERJ-135/ERJ-140
Air Zimbabwe daily with 767-200ER
FastJet 4 x daily with ERJ-145

So that's about 11 daily flights per way with roughly 1000-1100 seats per day per direction
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:58 am

eastafspot wrote:
Some interesting Q1 2019 stats from AFRAA:


These figures are quite delusional. AFRAA is doing themselves and their member airlines a disservice by associating their name with tripe like this.

Anyone who thinks that Djibouti is more expensive than Addis to operate into has never actually operated out of either airport. Accra more expensive than Freetown? Somebody is smoking the strong stuff today.

Visa openness - Somalia is number 1 because it offers visa on arrival to 53 African countries? That is more a function of not having Somali Embassies anywhere else. You can't just rock up at Mogadishu airport asking for a visa on arrival. It has to be pre-arranged which is far from a simple task. On the flip side, Ghana legitimately has visa on arrival for all 53 African member states - just show up at the border, pay the fee (if applicable) and welcome. Yet the AFRAA document doesn't reflect this.

Believe this document at your own peril.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:45 pm

eastafspot wrote:
Some interesting Q1 2019 stats from AFRAA:

- NBO-MBA is Africa's 7th busiest domestic route,
- NBO leading africa's freight traffic, ADD 4th,
- ADD is Africa's 6th cheapest airport (first in the region),
- JIB is the most expensive and EBB ranks 8th in Africa,
- ADD is the 3rd most connected airport, while NBO is 5th,

- Percentage of direct connections to other African regions:
1: Southern Africa 20%
2: Central Africa 15%
3: Northern Africa 12%
4: Western Africa 10%

And finally, busiest regional routes ( very surprised that KGL-EBB makes up to the top 10; there must be a glitch somehow! :eyebrow: )

Image


Source:
https://www.afraa.org/wp-content/upload ... _Final.pdf
I'd have thought LOS-ABV would be in the top 10 before this.
 
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Re: East African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:09 pm

mr02 wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
Some interesting Q1 2019 stats from AFRAA:

- NBO-MBA is Africa's 7th busiest domestic route,
- NBO leading africa's freight traffic, ADD 4th,
- ADD is Africa's 6th cheapest airport (first in the region),
- JIB is the most expensive and EBB ranks 8th in Africa,
- ADD is the 3rd most connected airport, while NBO is 5th,

- Percentage of direct connections to other African regions:
1: Southern Africa 20%
2: Central Africa 15%
3: Northern Africa 12%
4: Western Africa 10%

And finally, busiest regional routes ( very surprised that KGL-EBB makes up to the top 10; there must be a glitch somehow! :eyebrow: )

Image


Source:
https://www.afraa.org/wp-content/upload ... _Final.pdf
I'd have thought LOS-ABV would be in the top 10 before this.


The stats are for regional routes, not domestic
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