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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:29 pm

usairways85 wrote:
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So looks like FI has switched aircraft on the PHL-KEF to 757-200 because of the MAX issues. Glad this route wasn’t on the chopping block

Where do you see this? I did a quick check of a few dates in early June on their website and ITA matrix. The flights are still listed as 73M.


Did a dummy booking on Orbitz for May 23rd first flight of the season. It showed 757-200. Maybe the Max will be back in service by June
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:54 pm

Just did a few dummy bookings throughout the summer. TXL and DBV look to be selling pretty well. Their business cabins are almost all full already. Bologna, does not look so hot. Wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't return.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:33 pm

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Just did a few dummy bookings throughout the summer. TXL and DBV look to be selling pretty well. Their business cabins are almost all full already. Bologna, does not look so hot. Wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't return.

Considering how expensive it is as of now yeah its not looking good. Lufthansa and Iberia offer decent one stop connections. I would agree with you
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:51 pm

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The two 744's at PHL, courtesy of the PHL twitter account.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3OhENsWsAEn23u.jpg:large

What a gorgeous site!! Time still running out for me to fly on one of those!!! :hissyfit: :hissyfit: :banghead:
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:37 pm

Does anyone know what aircraft QR is going to use starting June 1st? The B77L or the B77W?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:07 pm

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Does anyone know what aircraft QR is going to use starting June 1st? The B77L or the B77W?


B77W is posted on there website
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:48 pm

Does anyone know if Sun Country has been assigned a gate and if so what terminal? Just curious since service is about to start soon
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:14 am

Bigant0408 wrote:
Does anyone know if Sun Country has been assigned a gate and if so what terminal? Just curious since service is about to start soon
They'll definitely be in D/E, but I'm not aware of any gate assignment yet. The only vacant gate in D is D2. Terminal E has a couple of empty gates and a large section of vacant ticket counter space.

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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:14 am

phljjs wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
Does anyone know if Sun Country has been assigned a gate and if so what terminal? Just curious since service is about to start soon
They'll definitely be in D/E, but I'm not aware of any gate assignment yet. The only vacant gate in D is D2. Terminal E has a couple of empty gates and a large section of vacant ticket counter space.

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Oh ok that’s good to know
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:22 pm

Per the weekly OAG Changes thread posted today, AA is launching 1x daily service to XNA beginning in September. Great to see AA continue to fill in the destination map from PHL. I’m guessing this will be American Eagle on an E175 and suspect XNA was chosen due to Business travelers to/from Walmart HQ.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1420391

Hopefully we will see additional domestic destinations added from PHL by AA. Likely candidates that come to mind are: SBN, TUL, HSV, DAB, GRB, LIT, and perhaps SJC and SMF.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:49 pm

phljjs wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
Does anyone know if Sun Country has been assigned a gate and if so what terminal? Just curious since service is about to start soon
They'll definitely be in D/E, but I'm not aware of any gate assignment yet. The only vacant gate in D is D2. Terminal E has a couple of empty gates and a large section of vacant ticket counter space.

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You called it I looked at Sun Country website and there check-in counter is in terminal D.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:41 pm

Bigant0408 wrote:
phljjs wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
Does anyone know if Sun Country has been assigned a gate and if so what terminal? Just curious since service is about to start soon
They'll definitely be in D/E, but I'm not aware of any gate assignment yet. The only vacant gate in D is D2. Terminal E has a couple of empty gates and a large section of vacant ticket counter space.

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You called it I looked at Sun Country website and there check-in counter is in terminal D.


I'm kind of surprised it's Terminal D since there's no real counter space that I'm aware of. UA, AC, DL, AS and NK have D Ticketing pretty locked up. Maybe they're gonna sublease a small part of the AS or NK space. I think DGS handles AS and NK ramp and they also handle SY charters at PHL.

Another possibility is for NK to move their counters to Terminal E since that's where their gates are.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:01 pm

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Per the weekly OAG Changes thread posted today, AA is launching 1x daily service to XNA beginning in September. Great to see AA continue to fill in the destination map from PHL. I’m guessing this will be American Eagle on an E175 and suspect XNA was chosen due to Business travelers to/from Walmart HQ.

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtop ... &t=1420391

Hopefully we will see additional domestic destinations added from PHL by AA. Likely candidates that come to mind are: SBN, TUL, HSV, DAB, GRB, LIT, and perhaps SJC and SMF.

They also dropped SAT to less than daily, OKC from 2>1x day, and OMA from 2 > slightly more than 1x day. So either they are marginal performers and some type of Max cut or AA does not want to commit more capacity to PHL.

IMO, AA's situation in PHL is interesting. I think there is a certain amount of capacity/frequency required to serve O&D, TA connections, and domestic connections. They want PHL to be the prime TA gateway, but don't want that many connections better suited over CLT. So these routes come along at 1-2x day and I think it is difficult to capture a good chunk of paxs from all 3 buckets.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:39 am

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IMO, AA's situation in PHL is interesting. I think there is a certain amount of capacity/frequency required to serve O&D, TA connections, and domestic connections. They want PHL to be the prime TA gateway, but don't want that many connections better suited over CLT. So these routes come along at 1-2x day and I think it is difficult to capture a good chunk of paxs from all 3 buckets.


This is a good discussion.
So a lot of AA adds recently have been about connecting cities for the TA flights for leisure travel and not exactly for the business travel. Maybe CLT would start offering more TATL flights once they finish construction. So what AA strategy with PHL future? Continue to add cities for the TATL flights?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:09 am

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They also dropped SAT to less than daily, OKC from 2>1x day, and OMA from 2 > slightly more than 1x day. So either they are marginal performers and some type of Max cut or AA does not want to commit more capacity to PHL.

IMO, AA's situation in PHL is interesting. I think there is a certain amount of capacity/frequency required to serve O&D, TA connections, and domestic connections. They want PHL to be the prime TA gateway, but don't want that many connections better suited over CLT. So these routes come along at 1-2x day and I think it is difficult to capture a good chunk of paxs from all 3 buckets.


Touché. It does seem like it is often one step forward, one step back with AA at PHL. I just searched flight times and found that XNA-PHL departs at 3:55pm and arrives at 7:40pm, which doesn’t seem ideal for business or most connecting traffic. The fact that AA dropped MUC and then added less than daily seasonal service to TXL, BLQ, and DBV seems to indicate PHL is not a hub where AA is planning significant growth.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:19 am

TheFlyGuy wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
They also dropped SAT to less than daily, OKC from 2>1x day, and OMA from 2 > slightly more than 1x day. So either they are marginal performers and some type of Max cut or AA does not want to commit more capacity to PHL.

IMO, AA's situation in PHL is interesting. I think there is a certain amount of capacity/frequency required to serve O&D, TA connections, and domestic connections. They want PHL to be the prime TA gateway, but don't want that many connections better suited over CLT. So these routes come along at 1-2x day and I think it is difficult to capture a good chunk of paxs from all 3 buckets.


Touché. It does seem like it is often one step forward, one step back with AA at PHL. I just searched flight times and found that XNA-PHL departs at 3:55pm and arrives at 7:40pm, which doesn’t seem ideal for business or most connecting traffic. The fact that AA dropped MUC and then added less than daily seasonal service to TXL, BLQ, and DBV seems to indicate PHL is not a hub where AA is planning significant growth.


Agreed. If PHL is AA's third or fourth most profitable hub, wouldn't you think the flight schedule would continue to grow....? I think most know CLT and DFW are undercutting other hubs with cheaper real estate and landing fees, but you can't be a southern hub airline only with limited operations in ORD & PHL. It will be interesting to see if the frequencies return to OKC, OMA and SAT once the 737MAX issue is resolved. My guess is they needed those aircraft to backfill operations at subsidized hubs in CLT or DFW.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:39 pm

TheFlyGuy wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
They also dropped SAT to less than daily, OKC from 2>1x day, and OMA from 2 > slightly more than 1x day. So either they are marginal performers and some type of Max cut or AA does not want to commit more capacity to PHL.

IMO, AA's situation in PHL is interesting. I think there is a certain amount of capacity/frequency required to serve O&D, TA connections, and domestic connections. They want PHL to be the prime TA gateway, but don't want that many connections better suited over CLT. So these routes come along at 1-2x day and I think it is difficult to capture a good chunk of paxs from all 3 buckets.


Touché. It does seem like it is often one step forward, one step back with AA at PHL. I just searched flight times and found that XNA-PHL departs at 3:55pm and arrives at 7:40pm, which doesn’t seem ideal for business or most connecting traffic. The fact that AA dropped MUC and then added less than daily seasonal service to TXL, BLQ, and DBV seems to indicate PHL is not a hub where AA is planning significant growth.


Right so PHL will remain the TA gateway for leisure travelers and CLT would be for the connecting business travelers in the lower half of the U.S. One way to read your comment is PHL will be stuck at ~30 million passengers a year with some experimental routes to Europe? Looking forward the 2020 season could see one or two European routes added maybe a couple of others moved to different hubs?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:58 pm

Philly65 wrote:
TheFlyGuy wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
They also dropped SAT to less than daily, OKC from 2>1x day, and OMA from 2 > slightly more than 1x day. So either they are marginal performers and some type of Max cut or AA does not want to commit more capacity to PHL.

IMO, AA's situation in PHL is interesting. I think there is a certain amount of capacity/frequency required to serve O&D, TA connections, and domestic connections. They want PHL to be the prime TA gateway, but don't want that many connections better suited over CLT. So these routes come along at 1-2x day and I think it is difficult to capture a good chunk of paxs from all 3 buckets.


Touché. It does seem like it is often one step forward, one step back with AA at PHL. I just searched flight times and found that XNA-PHL departs at 3:55pm and arrives at 7:40pm, which doesn’t seem ideal for business or most connecting traffic. The fact that AA dropped MUC and then added less than daily seasonal service to TXL, BLQ, and DBV seems to indicate PHL is not a hub where AA is planning significant growth.


Agreed. If PHL is AA's third or fourth most profitable hub, wouldn't you think the flight schedule would continue to grow....? I think most know CLT and DFW are undercutting other hubs with cheaper real estate and landing fees, but you can't be a southern hub airline only with limited operations in ORD & PHL. It will be interesting to see if the frequencies return to OKC, OMA and SAT once the 737MAX issue is resolved. My guess is they needed those aircraft to backfill operations at subsidized hubs in CLT or DFW.


The fact that OKC, OMA and SAT were cut during peak summer travel time indicates it was clearly related to the MAX issues. Each hub had to take some cuts to shift capacity around. It's interesting that these three routes seem to have been chosen - it probably indicates they are some of the weakest routes out of PHL.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:19 pm

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phljjs wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
Does anyone know if Sun Country has been assigned a gate and if so what terminal? Just curious since service is about to start soon
They'll definitely be in D/E, but I'm not aware of any gate assignment yet. The only vacant gate in D is D2. Terminal E has a couple of empty gates and a large section of vacant ticket counter space.

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You called it I looked at Sun Country website and there check-in counter is in terminal D.
So I was walking down Concourse D a few minutes ago and there are a few AS/DGS employees hovering around gate D4, which is an AS gate. There is a small Sun Country banner having on stanchions in front of the computer.

I don't know if it's for a Casino charter or if that's the plan going forward.

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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:44 pm

phljjs wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
phljjs wrote:
They'll definitely be in D/E, but I'm not aware of any gate assignment yet. The only vacant gate in D is D2. Terminal E has a couple of empty gates and a large section of vacant ticket counter space.

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You called it I looked at Sun Country website and there check-in counter is in terminal D.
So I was walking down Concourse D a few minutes ago and there are a few AS/DGS employees hovering around gate D4, which is an AS gate. There is a small Sun Country banner having on stanchions in front of the computer.

I don't know if it's for a Casino charter or if that's the plan going forward.

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I would have thought gate D2 would be used cause I think it's unoccupied previously. Would be interesting if they do use D4 and AS uses D2. Overall can't wait to see this colorful bird land tomorrow.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:14 pm

Bigant0408 wrote:
phljjs wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:

You called it I looked at Sun Country website and there check-in counter is in terminal D.
So I was walking down Concourse D a few minutes ago and there are a few AS/DGS employees hovering around gate D4, which is an AS gate. There is a small Sun Country banner having on stanchions in front of the computer.

I don't know if it's for a Casino charter or if that's the plan going forward.

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I would have thought gate D2 would be used cause I think it's unoccupied previously. Would be interesting if they do use D4 and AS uses D2. Overall can't wait to see this colorful bird land tomorrow.

Sun Country and Alaska aircraft should never be on the ground at the same time. Of Alaska's 5 flights a day, 4 are on the ground between ~ 4:30am - 9am and then the 5th is on the ground between 3-5pm. Sun Country is on the ground between 11am-12noon
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:52 pm

usairways85 wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
phljjs wrote:
So I was walking down Concourse D a few minutes ago and there are a few AS/DGS employees hovering around gate D4, which is an AS gate. There is a small Sun Country banner having on stanchions in front of the computer.

I don't know if it's for a Casino charter or if that's the plan going forward.

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I would have thought gate D2 would be used cause I think it's unoccupied previously. Would be interesting if they do use D4 and AS uses D2. Overall can't wait to see this colorful bird land tomorrow.

Sun Country and Alaska aircraft should never be on the ground at the same time. Of Alaska's 5 flights a day, 4 are on the ground between ~ 4:30am - 9am and then the 5th is on the ground between 3-5pm. Sun Country is on the ground between 11am-12noon


Fair point so I guess if for whatever reason they share the gate it shouldn't affect anything. I see this route goes into mid December base off there website which is good to see.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:02 pm

Sun Country is indeed using Gate D4. The only "permanent" Sun Country signage is a bag sizer. I'm guessing they put up the small banner I saw yesterday and remove it once the flight departs.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:25 pm

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Sun Country is indeed using Gate D4. The only "permanent" Sun Country signage is a bag sizer. I'm guessing they put up the small banner I saw yesterday and remove it once the flight departs.


Yea I guess using that gate would make the most sense especially as others posted the timing of the flight works out.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:45 pm

I take one thing back. Looks like AS retimed the LAX-PHL flight from the ungodly ~4:45am arrival to a 6:50pm arrival. Still no where near the Sun Country flight.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:30 pm

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I take one thing back. Looks like AS retimed the LAX-PHL flight from the ungodly ~4:45am arrival to a 6:50pm arrival. Still no where near the Sun Country flight.


AS would be on the ground from 6:35am to 8am requiring two gates. and from 3:50pm to 4:45pm, 6:50pm to 7:45pm. AS flight time change is welcomed.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:50 pm

Nice to see that SY arrived in PHL with the new tide pod livery!
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:13 pm

If FR24 Is correct, LH426 is operated by a B747-8 today, D-ABYR. Would this be the first passenger 748 at PHL? I can't recall any diversions from NY BOS or D.C. before.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:44 pm

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If FR24 Is correct, LH426 is operated by a B747-8 today, D-ABYR. Would this be the first passenger 748 at PHL? I can't recall any diversions from NY BOS or D.C. before.


I would believe so. I know UPS has deployed the 748F to PHL but you would seem to be correct.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:52 pm

ams747757 wrote:
If FR24 Is correct, LH426 is operated by a B747-8 today, D-ABYR. Would this be the first passenger 748 at PHL? I can't recall any diversions from NY BOS or D.C. before.


Just looked on Lufthansa website it definitely is a 747-8.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:31 pm

So I see the b748 sitting near the deicing pad. Is PHL not able to support the b748 at the gate?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:48 pm

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So I see the b748 sitting near the deicing pad. Is PHL not able to support the b748 at the gate?

The wingspan is only 14 feet longer than the 744.

PHL.org has today's arrival coming to A6 which I do not believe is normal. Maybe the 748 can only park at a few gates and there is a gate occupancy issue.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:05 pm

usairways85 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
So I see the b748 sitting near the deicing pad. Is PHL not able to support the b748 at the gate?

The wingspan is only 14 feet longer than the 744.

PHL.org has today's arrival coming to A6 which I do not believe is normal. Maybe the 748 can only park at a few gates and there is a gate occupancy issue.


I went down to do some spotting today for a couple hours, mainly to see the 748. Frustratingly, it starting raining about 20 mins before it landed. Even more frustratingly, it landed on 27L when all other arrivals were on 27R. It flew right over my head and so I don't have a good pic. I'm guessing the longer wingspan also precludes landing on 27R? Has the A380 ever landed in PHL?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:55 pm

bob7 wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
So I see the b748 sitting near the deicing pad. Is PHL not able to support the b748 at the gate?

The wingspan is only 14 feet longer than the 744.

PHL.org has today's arrival coming to A6 which I do not believe is normal. Maybe the 748 can only park at a few gates and there is a gate occupancy issue.


I went down to do some spotting today for a couple hours, mainly to see the 748. Frustratingly, it starting raining about 20 mins before it landed. Even more frustratingly, it landed on 27L when all other arrivals were on 27R. It flew right over my head and so I don't have a good pic. I'm guessing the longer wingspan also precludes landing on 27R? Has the A380 ever landed in PHL?


A LH380 and a EK380 landed at PHL within the past year or so as a diversions from JFK. Both parked at the hardstands since no gates can take them
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:04 pm

bob7 wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
So I see the b748 sitting near the deicing pad. Is PHL not able to support the b748 at the gate?

The wingspan is only 14 feet longer than the 744.

PHL.org has today's arrival coming to A6 which I do not believe is normal. Maybe the 748 can only park at a few gates and there is a gate occupancy issue.


I went down to do some spotting today for a couple hours, mainly to see the 748. Frustratingly, it starting raining about 20 mins before it landed. Even more frustratingly, it landed on 27L when all other arrivals were on 27R. It flew right over my head and so I don't have a good pic. I'm guessing the longer wingspan also precludes landing on 27R? Has the A380 ever landed in PHL?



I was the opposite as you. I was at trying to get a nice underneath of it so I was parked outside the entrance of fort Mifflin thinking it was landing on 27R, but saw to late that it was landing 27L. Got a nice video of it still.

https://twitter.com/wes_yancey_/status/ ... 43331?s=21
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:29 pm

It frustrating that I missed the landing by 5 minutes. I saw it land from 95. Also wow it's huge!!

Also 27L is 50 feet wider than 27R so probably why it landed on 27L.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:48 am

I could have sworn LH subbed the 748 in at some point last summer, but I could be misremembering.

Now we just need them to sub D-ABYT on a day that BA sends G-BYGC... one can dream.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:55 pm

Any word if they boarded remotely or if it ended up at A?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:36 pm

Does anyone recall the number of cities flown by WN out of PHL at it's peak. Service was announced in 2003 with great fanfare but safe to say US and AA have really pushed them down to a small and niche operator.

Southwest Airlines announces that Philadelphia will become our 60th destination in May 2004 when we launch service to MDW, TPA, MCO, PVD, LAS and PHX out of four gates at PHL.


From what I can recall, I think the below were flown but now discontinued:

    Manchester
    Boston
    Providence
    Hartford
    Pittsburgh
    Columbus
    Raleigh
    Jacksonville
    West Palm Beach
    Fort Myers
    Austin
    San Antonio
    Houston (but recently returned)
    Kansas City
    Las Vegas
    Oakland (?)

I might be missing a few but a lot of them were victims of US matching fares on popular routes (such as BOS, PIT, RDU), the decline of shorter segment flights (like BDL and PVD), and some are even from from recent ULCC competition (LAS). Such a shame as I really would have like to see WN become larger in PHL than they were!
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:13 pm

jetsetter629 wrote:
Does anyone recall the number of cities flown by WN out of PHL at it's peak. Service was announced in 2003 with great fanfare but safe to say US and AA have really pushed them down to a small and niche operator.

Southwest Airlines announces that Philadelphia will become our 60th destination in May 2004 when we launch service to MDW, TPA, MCO, PVD, LAS and PHX out of four gates at PHL.


From what I can recall, I think the below were flown but now discontinued:

    Manchester
    Boston
    Providence
    Hartford
    Pittsburgh
    Columbus
    Raleigh
    Jacksonville
    West Palm Beach
    Fort Myers
    Austin
    San Antonio
    Houston (but recently returned)
    Kansas City
    Las Vegas
    Oakland (?)

I might be missing a few but a lot of them were victims of US matching fares on popular routes (such as BOS, PIT, RDU), the decline of shorter segment flights (like BDL and PVD), and some are even from from recent ULCC competition (LAS). Such a shame as I really would have like to see WN become larger in PHL than they were!


Had to dig in the google crates and this is the best article I could find in regards to destinations served. There's a part of me that thinks maybe they'll reinstate the OAK flight for possible connections to Hawaii but who knows

http://investors.southwest.com/news-and ... 09-05-2005
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:47 pm

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Any word if they boarded remotely or if it ended up at A?

Searching online I saw the departure gate from A6 but no confirmation.
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:27 pm

JFI LH has had a few B748 diversions to PHL over the years. All have gone to a hardstand as well as two A380 diversions. Yesterday's flight was an equipment change as no B744 readily available. Group 6 aircraft have taxiway restrictions at PHL and are not allowed to the gates. Gate A6A is a Passenger Transport Vehicle portal and used for remote boarding. Aircraft was de / enplaned entirely by the vehicles.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 02, 2019 7:51 pm

Looks like some flights from IAD diverting due to weather, I'm seeing a KLM 77E on approach right now.

Edit: EI119 is also diverting (A332).
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 02, 2019 7:57 pm

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Looks like some flights from IAD diverting due to weather, I'm seeing a KLM 77E on approach right now.

Edit: EI119 is also diverting (A332).


Just saw it go on final. Was just about to ask for the reason. Thanks!
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 02, 2019 8:01 pm

EI115 from DUB (regularly scheduled PHL flight) looks to be arriving around the same time as its fellow IAD flight. Maybe they'll race to the gate?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 02, 2019 8:02 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
ams747757 wrote:
Looks like some flights from IAD diverting due to weather, I'm seeing a KLM 77E on approach right now.

Edit: EI119 is also diverting (A332).


Just saw it go on final. Was just about to ask for the reason. Thanks!

I should clarify I'm only assuming it's weather- Radar shows a nice cell passing over that part of the DC area (headed for DCA next).

MDT looks to be taking a pair of UA 757s after they held for a little while.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 02, 2019 8:11 pm

Much less exciting, but looks like B61155 is on also on its way, diverting from DCA
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 09, 2019 3:41 pm

AA announced service will start between PHL and EGE (Vail/Eagle) Colorado Dec 21st for Saturday only Winter service. Will be on 757
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Thu May 09, 2019 5:00 pm

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AA announced service will start between PHL and EGE (Vail/Eagle) Colorado Dec 21st for Saturday only Winter service. Will be on 757


Interesting choice of an aircraft. I would think they would start with A319 or A320 but I guess there might be good premium traffic on this route.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 09, 2019 5:26 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
AA announced service will start between PHL and EGE (Vail/Eagle) Colorado Dec 21st for Saturday only Winter service. Will be on 757


Interesting choice of an aircraft. I would think they would start with A319 or A320 but I guess there might be good premium traffic on this route.


Yea reading off Wiki EGE page during ski season majority of routes use the 757. Overall this is a pleasant surprise and offer.
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