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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue May 14, 2019 3:22 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
PHL-BOS bloodbath(?) heating up...

Delta upping to 7x a day on 10/3
B6 already planned to go up to 8x a day


With AA with 12, B6 with 8 and DL at 7. 27 Daily flights? At the end of the end BOS might be the third busiest domestic route this year


If schedules and plane types stay the same, we'd have about 1800 seats/day with AA, 800 with B6, and 520ish at DL. Has it ever been this busy, maybe when WN flew the route as well 10-15 years ago?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 17, 2019 12:40 pm

March traffic numbers out. PHL still gong on strong momentum.

Domestic
Month: +10.2% YTD: +3.6%
International
Month: +12.7% YTD: +8%
Total
Month: +10.5% YTD: +4.1%
YTD Paxs: 6,977,843
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 17, 2019 2:56 pm

usairways85 wrote:
March traffic numbers out. PHL still gong on strong momentum.

Domestic
Month: +10.2% YTD: +3.6%
International
Month: +12.7% YTD: +8%
Total
Month: +10.5% YTD: +4.1%
YTD Paxs: 6,977,843


Very impressive and with summer coming up I know traffic will be even better than last year.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 17, 2019 3:15 pm

Seems like AA is starting to rotate newer a321s into PHL instead of LUS aircraft. AA551,AA765,AA1657, AA566 have been using the newer jets since May 3rd.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 19, 2019 3:34 am

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Seems like AA is starting to rotate newer a321s into PHL instead of LUS aircraft. AA551,AA765,AA1657, AA566 have been using the newer jets since May 3rd.


Good to know the 4 routes what LAA A321 sevres PHL. This is finally happening because of the flight attendants talks getting sorted and all AA FA with work on either LUS or LAA planes
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 19, 2019 6:30 am

PHLspecial wrote:
WesYan wrote:
Seems like AA is starting to rotate newer a321s into PHL instead of LUS aircraft. AA551,AA765,AA1657, AA566 have been using the newer jets since May 3rd.


Good to know the 4 routes what LAA A321 sevres PHL. This is finally happening because of the flight attendants talks getting sorted and all AA FA with work on either LUS or LAA planes


Cross metal flying started over 7 months ago on October 1.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 19, 2019 7:02 am

flyboy7974 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
WesYan wrote:
Seems like AA is starting to rotate newer a321s into PHL instead of LUS aircraft. AA551,AA765,AA1657, AA566 have been using the newer jets since May 3rd.


Good to know the 4 routes what LAA A321 sevres PHL. This is finally happening because of the flight attendants talks getting sorted and all AA FA with work on either LUS or LAA planes


Cross metal flying started over 7 months ago on October 1.


Pretty sure it started way before that. I recall flying a LAA A321 on PHL-DFW in September

Cross-metal in general has been in PHL for a while now. 763s on PHL-AMS/LIS/ZRH/BUD/PRG and LAA 752s on PHL-SNN/GLA last year.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 19, 2019 2:07 pm

Ishrion wrote:
flyboy7974 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:

Good to know the 4 routes what LAA A321 sevres PHL. This is finally happening because of the flight attendants talks getting sorted and all AA FA with work on either LUS or LAA planes


Cross metal flying started over 7 months ago on October 1.


Pretty sure it started way before that. I recall flying a LAA A321 on PHL-DFW in September

Cross-metal in general has been in PHL for a while now. 763s on PHL-AMS/LIS/ZRH/BUD/PRG and LAA 752s on PHL-SNN/GLA last year.


Aircraft were used across the network but the legacy airlines f/a could not work on each other’s metal
until October 1.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 19, 2019 4:30 pm

Observation from my last trip, Chickie and Pete’s owns the franchises at PHL. It seemed like I must of passed four just at concourse E. Not complaining as I love their crab fries.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 23, 2019 7:41 pm

AF54 CDC- IAD A380 diverting to PHL due to weather
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 23, 2019 8:00 pm

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AF54 CDC- IAD A380 diverting to PHL due to weather


I just saw flying turning for base. My goodness it's huge. Also do you get alerts for these diversions?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 23, 2019 8:05 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
WesYan wrote:
AF54 CDC- IAD A380 diverting to PHL due to weather


I just saw flying turning for base. My goodness it's huge. Also do you get alerts for these diversions?

I wish there was a way to get alerts for diversions. I luckily opened FlightRadar24 at the right time as it turned away from IAD and joined PHL approach.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 24, 2019 5:42 pm

As expected but only recently official, FI's KEF-PHL flight is now scheduled as a 752.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 24, 2019 5:53 pm

Iceland Air coming back for a third year is a good sign right? Must be good enough numbers to come back. The fares seem pretty reasonable. Anyone here tried FI yet?

Also how long is the 763 going to stay on the PHL-LAS route? Until the 6th and 7th of June or is that 763 getting rotated from domestic to international back to domestic?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 24, 2019 8:35 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
Iceland Air coming back for a third year is a good sign right? Must be good enough numbers to come back. The fares seem pretty reasonable. Anyone here tried FI yet?


Yea and they finally going into the winter season until I believe very early January.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 24, 2019 8:36 pm

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As expected but only recently official, FI's KEF-PHL flight is now scheduled as a 752.


I’m just glad they didn’t ax the route like they did Cleveland and Halifax because of the Max issues (or so they said) and were able to sub a 757 for now
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun May 26, 2019 1:03 pm

According to OAG Sunday post today AA is making the PHL-EYW, SRQ, MLB go to daily for the winter. I was especially curious on how the Key West route would perform and looks like I got my answer.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 27, 2019 1:33 am

EK A380 diverted to Philly today from JFK due to weather.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 27, 2019 1:44 am

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EK A380 diverted to Philly today from JFK due to weather.

Two A380s less then a week. Crazy
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 29, 2019 12:02 pm

A few more diversions into PHL last night (Tuesday night).
AM MEX-JFK
DL AUS-JFK
4O CUN-JFK
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 29, 2019 5:36 pm

So got a little bored at work decide look at dummy bookings to Dublin and noticed that Aer Lingus is scheduling the A321LR to start Nov 1st
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 29, 2019 6:08 pm

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So got a little bored at work decide look at dummy bookings to Dublin and noticed that Aer Lingus is scheduling the A321LR to start Nov 1st


If this is true I hope they don't push it back any further from that date.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 1:34 pm

https://simpleflying.com/lufthansa-747- ... falls-off/

I'm guessing the B747 is still sitting there? Anyone know where its at or have more information on it?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH ... /EDDF/KPHL
Also here is the flight log, not sure if they were battling with lots of turbulence but I would assume so since those storms were crazy.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 2:11 pm

Parked at deicing pad position 3. Awaiting additional maintenance crews to perform more checks. Will likely be there a few more days.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 3:21 pm

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Parked at deicing pad position 3. Awaiting additional maintenance crews to perform more checks. Will likely be there a few more days.


Thanks for the info. At least its not a write off although I thought the B744 was on the way out.
Hey on the bright side PHL will have 3 B747 on the ground at the same :D
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 4:04 pm

They will eventually disappear, but I imagine they'll fly at least another two years or so. After today, A340-600 is scheduled to operate the route for next 8 days.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 4:17 pm

Oh the pencil boy is coming back. That would make for some nice photos.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:41 pm

Bigant0408 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
So got a little bored at work decide look at dummy bookings to Dublin and noticed that Aer Lingus is scheduling the A321LR to start Nov 1st


If this is true I hope they don't push it back any further from that date.


It's true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Airlineroute ... 6183317504
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:06 am

I spotted an Air Canada Express Dash 8 (It was either a Dash 200 or 300 in the old blue livery), this past Thursday landing at PHL in the late afternoon. Was that a diversion or does somebody operate them there?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:10 pm

crownvic wrote:
I spotted an Air Canada Express Dash 8 (It was either a Dash 200 or 300 in the old blue livery), this past Thursday landing at PHL in the late afternoon. Was that a diversion or does somebody operate them there?


Diversion, came in with an emergency.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:04 am

PhillyAviation wrote:
crownvic wrote:
I spotted an Air Canada Express Dash 8 (It was either a Dash 200 or 300 in the old blue livery), this past Thursday landing at PHL in the late afternoon. Was that a diversion or does somebody operate them there?


Diversion, came in with an emergency.


Thx. Where was it operating to/from? It was raining really hard when it landed and I saw emergency equipment faintly in the rain, but as it taxied toward the gate closer to me, I no longer saw the emergency equipment.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:42 pm

crownvic wrote:
PhillyAviation wrote:
crownvic wrote:
I spotted an Air Canada Express Dash 8 (It was either a Dash 200 or 300 in the old blue livery), this past Thursday landing at PHL in the late afternoon. Was that a diversion or does somebody operate them there?


Diversion, came in with an emergency.


Thx. Where was it operating to/from? It was raining really hard when it landed and I saw emergency equipment faintly in the rain, but as it taxied toward the gate closer to me, I no longer saw the emergency equipment.


YUL-BWI, continued on after a ~4 hour stay
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:11 pm

Has there been any update on D-ABVU?

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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:04 pm

Scheduled for repair next week some time. Will probably change both port engines and perform cowling repair. LH426/427 will now operate with A346 through 16JUN.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:13 pm

DAILN wrote:
Scheduled for repair next week some time. Will probably change both port engines and perform cowling repair. LH426/427 will now operate with A346 through 16JUN.


More info here: http://avherald.com/h?article=4c88bebd
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:04 am

PhillyAviation wrote:
crownvic wrote:
PhillyAviation wrote:

Diversion, came in with an emergency.


Thx. Where was it operating to/from? It was raining really hard when it landed and I saw emergency equipment faintly in the rain, but as it taxied toward the gate closer to me, I no longer saw the emergency equipment.


YUL-BWI, continued on after a ~4 hour stay


Thx PhillyAv...It was nice to see a Dash 8 at PHL again!
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:08 pm

https://www.discoverphl.com/blog/weve-g ... worldwide/

And update of the top foreign visiting counties to PHILADELPHIA
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:41 pm

Bigant0408 wrote:
https://www.discoverphl.com/blog/weve-got-fans-worldwide/

And update of the top foreign visiting counties to PHILADELPHIA


I know I sound like a kid but I'm hopefully for a flight to South Korea one day. In 2016 there was roughly 20K visitors from South Korea and in 2017 there was 18% jump to roughly under 40k visitors a year. China in 2017 have 60k visitors to PHL up 2% from 2016. Again its leisure traffic which I know is not enough to start direct services to Asia. Although for selfish reasons I'm hoping for direct flight services to Sweden. Nice to see Philly is not some crappy city view by the outside.
Thanks for posting!
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:45 pm

When US airways was a Star Alliance member and then AA took changing to OneWorld. Did a lot of travelers switch to OneWorld or stayed with *A?
 
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:58 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
https://www.discoverphl.com/blog/weve-got-fans-worldwide/

And update of the top foreign visiting counties to PHILADELPHIA


I know I sound like a kid but I'm hopefully for a flight to South Korea one day. In 2016 there was roughly 20K visitors from South Korea and in 2017 there was 18% jump to roughly under 40k visitors a year. China in 2017 have 60k visitors to PHL up 2% from 2016. Again its leisure traffic which I know is not enough to start direct services to Asia. Although for selfish reasons I'm hoping for direct flight services to Sweden. Nice to see Philly is not some crappy city view by the outside.
Thanks for posting!


I know few years ago PHL was in talks with Korean Air about service but obviously that hasn’t happened. I’m the typical PHL fanatic hoping for any Asian service preferable with Japan Airline but not holding my breath lol. No problem on the post I love seeing statistics like this.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:00 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
When US airways was a Star Alliance member and then AA took changing to OneWorld. Did a lot of travelers switch to OneWorld or stayed with *A?

I can only vouch for myself and say I stayed with Oneworld when they switch from Star Alliance as a FF member
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:45 pm

Bigant0408 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
https://www.discoverphl.com/blog/weve-got-fans-worldwide/

And update of the top foreign visiting counties to PHILADELPHIA


I know I sound like a kid but I'm hopefully for a flight to South Korea one day. In 2016 there was roughly 20K visitors from South Korea and in 2017 there was 18% jump to roughly under 40k visitors a year. China in 2017 have 60k visitors to PHL up 2% from 2016. Again its leisure traffic which I know is not enough to start direct services to Asia. Although for selfish reasons I'm hoping for direct flight services to Sweden. Nice to see Philly is not some crappy city view by the outside.
Thanks for posting!


I know few years ago PHL was in talks with Korean Air about service but obviously that hasn’t happened. I’m the typical PHL fanatic hoping for any Asian service preferable with Japan Airline but not holding my breath lol. No problem on the post I love seeing statistics like this.


Sad that Korean Air couldn't pull the trigger. Korean Air would have been able to connect a bunch of Asian people to other Asian cities . These stats definitely help with future service.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:37 pm

https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.co ... ladelphia/

Article in regards to the remote stand buggies. Part of me feels like they need to some extent terminal A West but the way it’s designed idk if that’s possible. What are y’all thoughts
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:10 pm

Bigant0408 wrote:
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2019/06/09/american-airlines-is-using-moon-buggies-and-remote-stands-in-philadelphia/

Article in regards to the remote stand buggies. Part of me feels like they need to some extent terminal A West but the way it’s designed idk if that’s possible. What are y’all thoughts


Well the two International Plazas would need to be taken down and the International cargo building and Southwest cargo would be relocated to the new land acquired assuming it's going to become cargo city. Though I can't figure out the new Terminal shape. Should it be an I shape or like the bottom half of an X. Or build a new terminal by the preflight parking lot. I vote for both :D
That's assuming if PHL keeps going 2-3% a year. Which could be realistic.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:23 pm

And the trend continues..

April '19 numbers
Domestic
Month: +3%, YTD: +3.5%
International
Month: +6%, YTD: +7.4%
Total:
Month: +3.4%, YTD: +3.9%
YTD Paxs: 9,726,402
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:15 am

Bigant0408 wrote:
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2019/06/09/american-airlines-is-using-moon-buggies-and-remote-stands-in-philadelphia/

Article in regards to the remote stand buggies. Part of me feels like they need to some extent terminal A West but the way it’s designed idk if that’s possible. What are y’all thoughts


Thanks for attaching this article. Unfortunately (whether deserved or not), the mud slinging at AA continues. Personally, I do not mind these lounges in some situations. There is nothing worse than arriving on a long haul flight, only to sit on the ramp 30-45 minutes, because there are no gates available. As an enthusiast, it is also a bit of a "throw back" in time when I flew out of JFK and used these beasts. I am sure if the PHL expansion continues for them, both AA and the city will come up with some sort of expansion plan. Other airports with space constraints seem to be able to find ways to expand, so I cannot see why PHL can't.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:49 pm

Bigant0408 wrote:
https://www.discoverphl.com/blog/weve-got-fans-worldwide/

And update of the top foreign visiting counties to PHILADELPHIA


China in the #2 spot makes it a touch more likely that our first transpacific flight will be on CZ to PKX. That's probably on hold for as long as we're launching trade wars against China every five minutes, since it will be air cargo that makes any TPAC flight to PHL pay. But once that situation is stable, and if JL hasn't started service, there's no reason not to try to fill that gap.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:59 pm

No new runways, certainly no new terminals anytime soon. Are all three hardstands used in the afternoon? Buses are not that bad having done it in other countries. The airport would need continue growth for a new terminal.I would think around 35 million passengers a year would make the case for expansion.
I would think AA is holding back the expansion because of cost. Besides AA can upgauge a few flights on to mainline planes but that has its limit.
PHL has the space still to grow.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:12 pm

AA could stand to spread out the TA arrivals a bit. They pack them in during the 3pm hour. But I guess that probably messes with their banks that they seem to want to minimize.

A few things I'd like AA to do:
1.) Revisit the gate alignment at F. What are the movements for F? I'd like to see them potentially shift some gates to allow for some E175 flights to use F

Longer term...probably over a 10 year span
2.) Build a new 10-12 gate terminal west of A-west. All gates should support international flights (widebodies) but certainly not limited to those flights. Similar to IAH's new C north terminal.

3.) Once that is open, close the side of terminal's B and C that face each other. Start building a new consolidated B/C terminal. The terminal will be wider with a bigger hammer head like Terminal D. Figure a 18-20 gate terminal. Some gates should be widebody capable. Basically a net even of gates with the new west terminal. Once that is far enough along, knock down B, open that side of the new terminal, and then knock down C.

This does not inherently add more gates but it solves a lot of problems. Two new terminals will have wide corridors with larger gate areas. B/C are tight, narrow, and from what it sounds like the recent improvements, while nice, have only decreased what small gate space previously existed. Only A can reliably handle widebodies, this alignment provides more flexibility with widebody gate assignments. A 332 flying LAX-PHL-CDG does not need to use a FIS gate. Currently it has to. This new alignment also eliminates the small allyways other than between D and F.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:19 pm

Since we are on the topic of airport expansion. Access to the airport is key for growth. As part of the master plan I would add expanding the Broad Street Line from the sports complex to the Navy Yard and Airport this way the business travelers from the Navy yard has quick access to the airport travelers to the navy yard(Probably never gonna happen). Unfortunately the regional rail can't unfortunately can increase frequency or add an express train from CC to the airport. Introducing more bus routes would help.
Really big shame is Amtrak could have not built train line next to PHL that would have made the airport a lot more attractive.
Instead of building more parking spaces/garages, building an airport for public transit connections would beneficial to the surrounding areas North and South of the airport. That's my vision at least anyone else have better ideas?
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